attitude adjustment - totally self indulgent
Lee-Ann and Robert Storer
Hi all,
I've been trying to give myself an attitude adjustment. I need a web page or something that I can just click into each day and get a new kick up the arse.
I'm feeling resentful. First it was secretly resentful, then it went to 'just get on with it and smile' resentful, now it's sneaking out of my mouth resentful. *sigh* I know that I'm doing it. I know that it's dragging me down (honestly don't think the kids take that much notice because I go through cycles like this). I don't want to be the person that I'm being. I'm tired on top of it too so that's not helping and is maybe the cause of it a bit too.
I think the thing that makes me feel the worst is that it's ALL MY DOING.
I said "yes, you can come in the house tiny feral kitten"
I said "yes let's get two goats that I'll have to bottle feed three times a day"
I said (last Saturday) "oh look at these poor pathetic defenceless fluffy puppies, yes we'll bring them home so they can poo and pee everywhere and need lots of attention and eat enormous amounts of food and grow into high energy border collie/labradors"
I never wanted pets. I always said I didn't want pets. So what the hell is wrong with me that I went from no pets to 5 pets in just 9 months??!! It was all my decisions too! I didn't have kids nagging me for these animals. They didn't even know about the goats and the puppies!!! Oh bugger.
I knew how much responsibility I'd be taking on. Yeah, I was hopeful that the kids would be soooooo happy to have the pets that they'd joyfully help me with looking after them and they do help a bit.
I just need a big hoooooge kick up the bum. So kick me people! My head voices just aren't doing the job.
I want to be excited and happy to go and feed the goats and the puppys. I am for the morning feed but then my tiredness catches up and I'm a grumpy bitch for the rest of the day. Aaarrgh.
I want to smile at the kids and go outside and play with the puppies and the kids together all at the same time but then I go into freak out mode and I'm trying to watch everyone all at the same time and I give orders and I feel like I'm making everyone miserable. And I worry that I'm not gonna get anything done inside that I need to do to have a reasonably sane household.
I could rave on for hours. I think I'd better right all this down in a book somewhere so I can get it out of my head.
I know that unschooling is about life. It is life. It's my life. I just want to be better at it and let go of the resentment (which is mostly resentment at myself I think). I need tools for that. I need to move toward the joy. It has to come from within. I know that. I need help with it. Help me. I'm ready. Okay, time for me to go and breathe - I can feel the hysterical laughter starting up and I need to nip it in the bud or I'll really freak everyone out LOL
Lee-Ann in Australia :)
breathing, breathing, smilingish, smilingish
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I've been trying to give myself an attitude adjustment. I need a web page or something that I can just click into each day and get a new kick up the arse.
I'm feeling resentful. First it was secretly resentful, then it went to 'just get on with it and smile' resentful, now it's sneaking out of my mouth resentful. *sigh* I know that I'm doing it. I know that it's dragging me down (honestly don't think the kids take that much notice because I go through cycles like this). I don't want to be the person that I'm being. I'm tired on top of it too so that's not helping and is maybe the cause of it a bit too.
I think the thing that makes me feel the worst is that it's ALL MY DOING.
I said "yes, you can come in the house tiny feral kitten"
I said "yes let's get two goats that I'll have to bottle feed three times a day"
I said (last Saturday) "oh look at these poor pathetic defenceless fluffy puppies, yes we'll bring them home so they can poo and pee everywhere and need lots of attention and eat enormous amounts of food and grow into high energy border collie/labradors"
I never wanted pets. I always said I didn't want pets. So what the hell is wrong with me that I went from no pets to 5 pets in just 9 months??!! It was all my decisions too! I didn't have kids nagging me for these animals. They didn't even know about the goats and the puppies!!! Oh bugger.
I knew how much responsibility I'd be taking on. Yeah, I was hopeful that the kids would be soooooo happy to have the pets that they'd joyfully help me with looking after them and they do help a bit.
I just need a big hoooooge kick up the bum. So kick me people! My head voices just aren't doing the job.
I want to be excited and happy to go and feed the goats and the puppys. I am for the morning feed but then my tiredness catches up and I'm a grumpy bitch for the rest of the day. Aaarrgh.
I want to smile at the kids and go outside and play with the puppies and the kids together all at the same time but then I go into freak out mode and I'm trying to watch everyone all at the same time and I give orders and I feel like I'm making everyone miserable. And I worry that I'm not gonna get anything done inside that I need to do to have a reasonably sane household.
I could rave on for hours. I think I'd better right all this down in a book somewhere so I can get it out of my head.
I know that unschooling is about life. It is life. It's my life. I just want to be better at it and let go of the resentment (which is mostly resentment at myself I think). I need tools for that. I need to move toward the joy. It has to come from within. I know that. I need help with it. Help me. I'm ready. Okay, time for me to go and breathe - I can feel the hysterical laughter starting up and I need to nip it in the bud or I'll really freak everyone out LOL
Lee-Ann in Australia :)
breathing, breathing, smilingish, smilingish
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Sara
I feel like there's someone else you're mad at. Taking the animals in
seems to me like finding something to love you. You are not feeling
appreciated! Why are you not getting enough sleep? Sara
"I know that unschooling is about life. It is life. It's my life.
I just want to be better at it and let go of the resentment (which is
mostly resentment at myself I think). I need tools for that. I need
to move toward the joy. It has to come from within."
seems to me like finding something to love you. You are not feeling
appreciated! Why are you not getting enough sleep? Sara
"I know that unschooling is about life. It is life. It's my life.
I just want to be better at it and let go of the resentment (which is
mostly resentment at myself I think). I need tools for that. I need
to move toward the joy. It has to come from within."
Robyn Coburn
<<I said "yes, you can come in the house tiny feral kitten"
I said "yes let's get two goats that I'll have to bottle feed three
times a day". I said (last Saturday) "oh look at these poor pathetic
defenceless fluffy puppies, yes we'll bring them home so they can poo
and pee everywhere and need lots of attention and eat enormous amounts
of food and grow into high energy border collie/Labradors"..I want to be
excited and happy to go and feed the goats and the puppys. I am for the
morning feed but then my tiredness catches up and I'm a grumpy bitch for
the rest of the day. Aaarrgh.>>
Sounds like you aren't getting enough sleep. I suppose there isn't some
local teenager who could be paid a small fee to take on the afternoon
feed of the goats and puppies, while you catch an afternoon nap or a
cuppa. My stepfather's brother keeps two adult goats which are great at
keeping down the weeds and very easy to look after (ie ignore a lot of
the time) apparently, so I guess time will help with them. At least
border collie/Labradors are a sweet and intelligent mix - I bet they
would be able to be placed somewhere where they need working dogs - what
about the Guide Dogs for the Blind?
My husband has pets - Sea Monkeys - the easiest pet in the world that is
actually living.
Robyn Coburn
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I said "yes let's get two goats that I'll have to bottle feed three
times a day". I said (last Saturday) "oh look at these poor pathetic
defenceless fluffy puppies, yes we'll bring them home so they can poo
and pee everywhere and need lots of attention and eat enormous amounts
of food and grow into high energy border collie/Labradors"..I want to be
excited and happy to go and feed the goats and the puppys. I am for the
morning feed but then my tiredness catches up and I'm a grumpy bitch for
the rest of the day. Aaarrgh.>>
Sounds like you aren't getting enough sleep. I suppose there isn't some
local teenager who could be paid a small fee to take on the afternoon
feed of the goats and puppies, while you catch an afternoon nap or a
cuppa. My stepfather's brother keeps two adult goats which are great at
keeping down the weeds and very easy to look after (ie ignore a lot of
the time) apparently, so I guess time will help with them. At least
border collie/Labradors are a sweet and intelligent mix - I bet they
would be able to be placed somewhere where they need working dogs - what
about the Guide Dogs for the Blind?
My husband has pets - Sea Monkeys - the easiest pet in the world that is
actually living.
Robyn Coburn
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/9/03 09:03:06 PM Central Daylight Time,
lrjem1@... writes:
I could rave on for hours. I think I'd better right all this down in a book
somewhere so I can get it out of my head.
I know that unschooling is about life. It is life. It's my life. I just
want to be better at it and let go of the resentment (which is mostly resentment
at myself I think). I need tools for that. I need to move toward the joy.
It has to come from within. I know that. I need help with it. Help me. I'm
ready. Okay, time for me to go and breathe - I can feel the hysterical
laughter starting up and I need to nip it in the bud or I'll really freak everyone
out LOL
Lee-Ann in Australia :)
breathing, breathing, smilingish, smilingish
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It sounds like you really need a huge vent! Then maybe a vacation! :o)
I would suggest placing the dogs, and if you really (REALLY) want to keep
one, keep just one and remember these days. Goats? Do you want them? Is there a
nice farm they can go to? The kids are yours, you are going to have to keep
them though! ;o) Good luck! And tomorrow when someone asks if you want to raise
the orphaned bunny they found, take a deep breath, count to ten and say NO.
~Nancy
Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
Elbert Hubbard
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lrjem1@... writes:
I could rave on for hours. I think I'd better right all this down in a book
somewhere so I can get it out of my head.
I know that unschooling is about life. It is life. It's my life. I just
want to be better at it and let go of the resentment (which is mostly resentment
at myself I think). I need tools for that. I need to move toward the joy.
It has to come from within. I know that. I need help with it. Help me. I'm
ready. Okay, time for me to go and breathe - I can feel the hysterical
laughter starting up and I need to nip it in the bud or I'll really freak everyone
out LOL
Lee-Ann in Australia :)
breathing, breathing, smilingish, smilingish
###########################################
It sounds like you really need a huge vent! Then maybe a vacation! :o)
I would suggest placing the dogs, and if you really (REALLY) want to keep
one, keep just one and remember these days. Goats? Do you want them? Is there a
nice farm they can go to? The kids are yours, you are going to have to keep
them though! ;o) Good luck! And tomorrow when someone asks if you want to raise
the orphaned bunny they found, take a deep breath, count to ten and say NO.
~Nancy
Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
Elbert Hubbard
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Carolyn Ashley-Wheeler
Sheesh, definately not a good day. What exactly are you resentful about? Is
it that you hzve done all these wonderful and selfless things and no-body is
saying thankyou,or you are wonderful? None of that was meant sarcastically!
Were you not allowed pets as a child and you think your kids should be extra
grateful, and, well, actually help? Sounds like the helping a bit needs to
become helping a lot. I'm sure unschooling doesn't mean doing what the heck
you like and ignoring the basic needs of life, such as feeding the animals,
throwing a hoover round, dusting the cat.
Sounds like there's something else going on and you're venting it on the
pets situation. Any chance of a break and some time out (away from family
and home, or you home and family somewhere else!).
Any time you feel like a rant....
Carolyn
PS I think everyone feels that way at some point in their lives (and
probably more than just one point!).
it that you hzve done all these wonderful and selfless things and no-body is
saying thankyou,or you are wonderful? None of that was meant sarcastically!
Were you not allowed pets as a child and you think your kids should be extra
grateful, and, well, actually help? Sounds like the helping a bit needs to
become helping a lot. I'm sure unschooling doesn't mean doing what the heck
you like and ignoring the basic needs of life, such as feeding the animals,
throwing a hoover round, dusting the cat.
Sounds like there's something else going on and you're venting it on the
pets situation. Any chance of a break and some time out (away from family
and home, or you home and family somewhere else!).
Any time you feel like a rant....
Carolyn
PS I think everyone feels that way at some point in their lives (and
probably more than just one point!).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee-Ann and Robert Storer" <lrjem1@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:59 AM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] attitude adjustment - totally self
indulgent
> Hi all,
>
> I've been trying to give myself an attitude adjustment. I need a web page
or something that I can just click into each day and get a new kick up the
arse.
>
> I'm feeling resentful. First it was secretly resentful, then it went to
'just get on with it and smile' resentful, now it's sneaking out of my mouth
resentful. *sigh* I know that I'm doing it. I know that it's dragging me
down (honestly don't think the kids take that much notice because I go
through cycles like this). I don't want to be the person that I'm being.
I'm tired on top of it too so that's not helping and is maybe the cause of
it a bit too.
>
> I think the thing that makes me feel the worst is that it's ALL MY DOING.
>
> I said "yes, you can come in the house tiny feral kitten"
> I said "yes let's get two goats that I'll have to bottle feed three times
a day"
> I said (last Saturday) "oh look at these poor pathetic defenceless fluffy
puppies, yes we'll bring them home so they can poo and pee everywhere and
need lots of attention and eat enormous amounts of food and grow into high
energy border collie/labradors"
>
> I never wanted pets. I always said I didn't want pets. So what the hell
is wrong with me that I went from no pets to 5 pets in just 9 months??!! It
was all my decisions too! I didn't have kids nagging me for these animals.
They didn't even know about the goats and the puppies!!! Oh bugger.
>
> I knew how much responsibility I'd be taking on. Yeah, I was hopeful that
the kids would be soooooo happy to have the pets that they'd joyfully help
me with looking after them and they do help a bit.
>
> I just need a big hoooooge kick up the bum. So kick me people! My head
voices just aren't doing the job.
>
> I want to be excited and happy to go and feed the goats and the puppys. I
am for the morning feed but then my tiredness catches up and I'm a grumpy
bitch for the rest of the day. Aaarrgh.
>
> I want to smile at the kids and go outside and play with the puppies and
the kids together all at the same time but then I go into freak out mode and
I'm trying to watch everyone all at the same time and I give orders and I
feel like I'm making everyone miserable. And I worry that I'm not gonna get
anything done inside that I need to do to have a reasonably sane household.
>
> I could rave on for hours. I think I'd better right all this down in a
book somewhere so I can get it out of my head.
>
> I know that unschooling is about life. It is life. It's my life. I just
want to be better at it and let go of the resentment (which is mostly
resentment at myself I think). I need tools for that. I need to move
toward the joy. It has to come from within. I know that. I need help with
it. Help me. I'm ready. Okay, time for me to go and breathe - I can feel
the hysterical laughter starting up and I need to nip it in the bud or I'll
really freak everyone out LOL
>
> Lee-Ann in Australia :)
> breathing, breathing, smilingish, smilingish
>
>
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In a message dated 9/9/03 7:03:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
lrjem1@... writes:
Although I don't have the same animal issue you currently have, I can
completely identify with your frustration right now. I am a people pleaser. I say
yes, even when I know damn good and well I should say no. I often then feel
resentful because I'm stuck in the yes, that I really wanted to be no, but didn't
want to "hurt" anyone. But then who ends up "hurt"...me and everyone in my path
while I am resentful. I am working hard on not jumping to rescuing the world,
volunteeering for crap I don't want to do and fixing everyone around me. And
in working on this, I have found I do some of it so that I don't have to deal
with certain parts of myself and the flip side that wants to be the
martyr/rescuer. I have plenty of my own crap to work on, but it's easy to ignore when
I'm helping or taking care of everyone else.
So although I won't kick you, I will say, you are not the only one and
sometimes knowing that can help immensely. I have one friend who happily kicks me
when she sees me running on empty and will thwap me in the head when she sees or
feels me readying up to take on more. I have to say, I really appreciate it
when she does that though. It's more comforting than anything else because she
knows how I operate and can really get me to stop and question my own motives.
Good luck to you and feel free to vent anytime!!!
Rhonda
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lrjem1@... writes:
> I knew how much responsibility I'd be taking on. Yeah, I was hopeful thatHugs to you Lee-Ann,
> the kids would be soooooo happy to have the pets that they'd joyfully help me
> with looking after them and they do help a bit.
>
> I just need a big hoooooge kick up the bum. So kick me people! My head
> voices just aren't doing the job.
>
Although I don't have the same animal issue you currently have, I can
completely identify with your frustration right now. I am a people pleaser. I say
yes, even when I know damn good and well I should say no. I often then feel
resentful because I'm stuck in the yes, that I really wanted to be no, but didn't
want to "hurt" anyone. But then who ends up "hurt"...me and everyone in my path
while I am resentful. I am working hard on not jumping to rescuing the world,
volunteeering for crap I don't want to do and fixing everyone around me. And
in working on this, I have found I do some of it so that I don't have to deal
with certain parts of myself and the flip side that wants to be the
martyr/rescuer. I have plenty of my own crap to work on, but it's easy to ignore when
I'm helping or taking care of everyone else.
So although I won't kick you, I will say, you are not the only one and
sometimes knowing that can help immensely. I have one friend who happily kicks me
when she sees me running on empty and will thwap me in the head when she sees or
feels me readying up to take on more. I have to say, I really appreciate it
when she does that though. It's more comforting than anything else because she
knows how I operate and can really get me to stop and question my own motives.
Good luck to you and feel free to vent anytime!!!
Rhonda
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[email protected]
These are responses to various bits from different people:
<< > I've been trying to give myself an attitude adjustment. I need a web
page
or something that I can just click into each day and get a new kick up the
arse. >>
There MUST be quote-a-day, daily affirmations webpages.
Maybe we should make one for unschoolers!!
<<> I'm feeling resentful. First it was secretly resentful, then it went to
'just get on with it and smile' resentful, now it's sneaking out of my mouth
resentful. *sigh* I know that I'm doing it. >>
Shot in the dark, but if the resentment has ANYTHING even vaguely to do with
unresolved issues of your own childhood and IF (just if) one of your parents
was an acoholic, I KNOW there are daily affirmations to get over some of those
feelings that can linger for a whole life and make it hard for people to
respond openly and freely to others without resentment.
If that didn't apply, WONDERFUL. Better if it doesn't. But for me, if I
hadn't worked hard on those adult-child-of-alcoholic issues, I'd never be the mom
I am now.
-=-> I want to be excited and happy to go and feed the goats and the puppys.
I
am for the morning feed but then my tiredness catches up and I'm a grumpy
bitch for the rest of the day. Aaarrgh.-=-
Thoughts are real, and if your day is full of grumpy thoughts and tired
thoughts, changing thoughts will make a difference. Would you rather have a happy,
fed puppy or a turning-mean, hungry puppy? See it as a positive thing for
the puppy's whole future, and your future with the puppy.
I could get really resentful that in the same week I'm checking mousetraps,
I'm feeding cats. But they DO catch mice when they can, there's just one
cunning mouse they haven't found. They're not lazy cats, or criminal cats. This
mouse is too smart for them, and maybe for me! So instead of seeing our house
as ruined by the presence of a mouse, we see it as our having a courageous,
smart mouse who will be out even when people are in the room, who is too smart
for cats.
It's a healthier attitude and more interesting than for me to think that I am
dumb, and the cats are dumb, because we have a DUMB mouse.
It's just a mouse. But the "DUMB" load of DUMBNESS would not be good for me,
the house, the kids, the cats...
<< Okay, time for me to go and breathe ->>
And that too!
Best first move.
Here's today's affirmation from the page listed right below it:
I am grateful for the new experiences in my life. My open mind and open heart
reap many rewards.
- Pamela J. Leavey
<A HREF="http://www.aromatherapygoddess.com/dailyaffirmations.html">Daily
Affirmations 2003 - Life</A>
http://www.aromatherapygoddess.com/dailyaffirmations.html
This is part of a web-designer's page, but it's FUN (and having fun will help
you let go of tension all by itself). When you get in there and have seen
one "shrine" click "continue" or "next" or whatever it is. There are several.
<A HREF="http://www.breakingpoint.com/HTML/shrine.html">Welcome to the Shrine
of Daily Affirmations</A>
http://www.breakingpoint.com/HTML/shrine.html
Sandra
<< > I've been trying to give myself an attitude adjustment. I need a web
page
or something that I can just click into each day and get a new kick up the
arse. >>
There MUST be quote-a-day, daily affirmations webpages.
Maybe we should make one for unschoolers!!
<<> I'm feeling resentful. First it was secretly resentful, then it went to
'just get on with it and smile' resentful, now it's sneaking out of my mouth
resentful. *sigh* I know that I'm doing it. >>
Shot in the dark, but if the resentment has ANYTHING even vaguely to do with
unresolved issues of your own childhood and IF (just if) one of your parents
was an acoholic, I KNOW there are daily affirmations to get over some of those
feelings that can linger for a whole life and make it hard for people to
respond openly and freely to others without resentment.
If that didn't apply, WONDERFUL. Better if it doesn't. But for me, if I
hadn't worked hard on those adult-child-of-alcoholic issues, I'd never be the mom
I am now.
-=-> I want to be excited and happy to go and feed the goats and the puppys.
I
am for the morning feed but then my tiredness catches up and I'm a grumpy
bitch for the rest of the day. Aaarrgh.-=-
Thoughts are real, and if your day is full of grumpy thoughts and tired
thoughts, changing thoughts will make a difference. Would you rather have a happy,
fed puppy or a turning-mean, hungry puppy? See it as a positive thing for
the puppy's whole future, and your future with the puppy.
I could get really resentful that in the same week I'm checking mousetraps,
I'm feeding cats. But they DO catch mice when they can, there's just one
cunning mouse they haven't found. They're not lazy cats, or criminal cats. This
mouse is too smart for them, and maybe for me! So instead of seeing our house
as ruined by the presence of a mouse, we see it as our having a courageous,
smart mouse who will be out even when people are in the room, who is too smart
for cats.
It's a healthier attitude and more interesting than for me to think that I am
dumb, and the cats are dumb, because we have a DUMB mouse.
It's just a mouse. But the "DUMB" load of DUMBNESS would not be good for me,
the house, the kids, the cats...
<< Okay, time for me to go and breathe ->>
And that too!
Best first move.
Here's today's affirmation from the page listed right below it:
I am grateful for the new experiences in my life. My open mind and open heart
reap many rewards.
- Pamela J. Leavey
<A HREF="http://www.aromatherapygoddess.com/dailyaffirmations.html">Daily
Affirmations 2003 - Life</A>
http://www.aromatherapygoddess.com/dailyaffirmations.html
This is part of a web-designer's page, but it's FUN (and having fun will help
you let go of tension all by itself). When you get in there and have seen
one "shrine" click "continue" or "next" or whatever it is. There are several.
<A HREF="http://www.breakingpoint.com/HTML/shrine.html">Welcome to the Shrine
of Daily Affirmations</A>
http://www.breakingpoint.com/HTML/shrine.html
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/10/2003 12:04:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
This reminds me of a situation just last month with my oldest son (who
doesn't live at home).
He kept telling me about this mouse that would just come out and stare at
them, didn't matter if there was company or not. Matthew also has a BIG tom cat
that is into things like catching mice and such. Cat did not catch this mouse
though they thought it had a time or two.
The smart mouse would linger on the stairs just long enough to get some one
to give chase with a book or some other object they were SURE would be the
undoing of the mouse.
Finally Matthew catches the mouse in a trap, a glue type trap. He finds it
and the mouse is alive. It has a chunk of ear missing that has healed,
probably from the cat, he looks at the mouse, proud that he's finally outsmarted this
creature, then he takes him outside and turns him loose beside his front
porch.
He said he felt bad doing anything else. He said it sorta felt like they had
been playing games with this mouse for months and it turned from a rodent
into something else. Something he couldn't destroy. I'm sure that mouse will
probably be back, probably already is.
glena
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> I could get really resentful that in the same week I'm checking mousetraps,Sandra,
>
> I'm feeding cats. But they DO catch mice when they can, there's just one
> cunning mouse they haven't found. They're not lazy cats, or criminal cats.
> This
> mouse is too smart for them, and maybe for me! So instead of seeing our
> house
> as ruined by the presence of a mouse, we see it as our having a courageous,
> smart mouse who will be out even when people are in the room, who is too
> smart
> for cats.
>
This reminds me of a situation just last month with my oldest son (who
doesn't live at home).
He kept telling me about this mouse that would just come out and stare at
them, didn't matter if there was company or not. Matthew also has a BIG tom cat
that is into things like catching mice and such. Cat did not catch this mouse
though they thought it had a time or two.
The smart mouse would linger on the stairs just long enough to get some one
to give chase with a book or some other object they were SURE would be the
undoing of the mouse.
Finally Matthew catches the mouse in a trap, a glue type trap. He finds it
and the mouse is alive. It has a chunk of ear missing that has healed,
probably from the cat, he looks at the mouse, proud that he's finally outsmarted this
creature, then he takes him outside and turns him loose beside his front
porch.
He said he felt bad doing anything else. He said it sorta felt like they had
been playing games with this mouse for months and it turned from a rodent
into something else. Something he couldn't destroy. I'm sure that mouse will
probably be back, probably already is.
glena
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do, and really like it. Sometimes I find myself just deleting it, but most
days I do read them. It's only a once a day thing. It's not for homeschoolers
per-say, but it can be applied. You can sign up at: <A HREF="mailto:Afbbuilder@...">Afbbuilder@...</A>
Below is one of the recent one's I have received. Enjoy.
Tracy
YOUR DAILY MOTIVATION
Tuesday, September 9, 2003
COURTESY OPENS ALL DOORS.
-----------------------------------------------
There is no investment you'll ever make that will pay you so well
as the effort to scatter sunshine and good cheer where ever you are.
The deepest principal in human nature is the craving to be appreciated.
If you treat an individual as if they were what they ought to be and could
be,
they will become what they ought to be and could be.
Everyone thrives on being appreciated, loved and needed.
There is no stimulus like that which comes
from the consciousness of knowing that others believe in you.
Applaud others when they run.
Console them when they fail.
And cheer them when they recover.
As water is to a flower,
so is praise to the heart of another.
-----------------------------------------------
©2003 Written by: MotivationMentor@...
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1. Penicillin
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Glyconutrients...
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if given the proper nutrients; glyconutrients are seen by many scientists and
doctors as the missing link to total Health!
Many people with diseases such as allergies, arthritis, ADD/ADHD, diabetes,
cancers, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, MS and even AIDS, to name a
few, are seeing remarkable improvements due to this discovery!
more info: - healthandlongevity.info
(Educational site)
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> There MUST be quote-a-day, daily affirmations webpages.Actually, there IS a great daily affirmations e-mail you can subscribe to. I
> Maybe we should make one for unschoolers!!
do, and really like it. Sometimes I find myself just deleting it, but most
days I do read them. It's only a once a day thing. It's not for homeschoolers
per-say, but it can be applied. You can sign up at: <A HREF="mailto:Afbbuilder@...">Afbbuilder@...</A>
Below is one of the recent one's I have received. Enjoy.
Tracy
YOUR DAILY MOTIVATION
Tuesday, September 9, 2003
COURTESY OPENS ALL DOORS.
-----------------------------------------------
There is no investment you'll ever make that will pay you so well
as the effort to scatter sunshine and good cheer where ever you are.
The deepest principal in human nature is the craving to be appreciated.
If you treat an individual as if they were what they ought to be and could
be,
they will become what they ought to be and could be.
Everyone thrives on being appreciated, loved and needed.
There is no stimulus like that which comes
from the consciousness of knowing that others believe in you.
Applaud others when they run.
Console them when they fail.
And cheer them when they recover.
As water is to a flower,
so is praise to the heart of another.
-----------------------------------------------
©2003 Written by: MotivationMentor@...
Reproduce freely but maintain © notice including the Disclaimer
QLNow.com/moremoney;
QLNow; where the 21st Century entrepreneur will set the pace. The rules have
changed ! If you are operating by the old rules, you might want to reconsider
your journey.
Over time there have been three great medical discoveries...
1. Penicillin
2. Vaccines
3. Insulin
Now doctors are claiming there is a fourth...
Glyconutrients...
the “Sugars the Heal”!
Based on the knowledge that the body can heal itself of virtually any ailment
if given the proper nutrients; glyconutrients are seen by many scientists and
doctors as the missing link to total Health!
Many people with diseases such as allergies, arthritis, ADD/ADHD, diabetes,
cancers, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, MS and even AIDS, to name a
few, are seeing remarkable improvements due to this discovery!
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(Educational site)
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I read this when over welmed.. and it helps me remember what kind of
attitude to have that day.
Dawn
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] attitude adjustment - totally self
indulgent
Hi all,
I've been trying to give myself an attitude adjustment.� I need a web page
or something that I can just click into each day and get a new kick up the
arse.
I'm feeling resentful.� First it was secretly resentful, then it went to
'just get on with it and smile' resentful, now it's sneaking out of my mouth
resentful.� *sigh*� I know that I'm doing it.� I know that it's dragging me
down (honestly don't think the kids take that much notice because I go
through cycles like this).� I don't want to be the person that I'm being.�
I'm tired on top of it too so that's not helping and is maybe the cause of
it a bit too.
I think the thing that makes me feel the worst is that it's ALL MY DOING.
I said "yes, you can come in the house tiny feral kitten"
I said "yes let's get two goats that I'll have to bottle feed three times a
day"
I said (last Saturday) "oh look at these poor pathetic defenceless fluffy
puppies, yes we'll bring them home so they can poo and pee everywhere and
need lots of attention and eat enormous amounts of food and grow into high
energy border collie/labradors"
I never wanted pets.� I always said I didn't want pets.� So what the hell is
wrong with me that I went from no pets to 5 pets in just 9 months??!!� It
was all my decisions too!� I didn't have kids nagging me for these animals.�
They didn't even know about the goats and the puppies!!!� Oh bugger.
I knew how much responsibility I'd be taking on.� Yeah, I was hopeful that
the kids would be soooooo happy to have the pets that they'd joyfully help
me with looking after them and they do help a bit.�
I just need a big hoooooge kick up the bum.� So kick me people!� My head
voices just aren't doing the job.
I want to be excited and happy to go and feed the goats and the puppys.� I
am for the morning feed but then my tiredness catches up and I'm a grumpy
bitch for the rest of the day.� Aaarrgh.
I want to smile at the kids and go outside and play with the puppies and the
kids together all at the same time but then I go into freak out mode and I'm
trying to watch everyone all at the same time and I give orders and I feel
like I'm making everyone miserable.� And I worry that I'm not gonna get
anything done inside that I need to do to have a reasonably sane household.
I could rave on for hours.� I think I'd better right all this down in a book
somewhere so I can get it out of my head.�
I know that unschooling is about life.� It is life.� It's my life.� I just
want to be better at it and let go of the resentment (which is mostly
resentment at myself I think).� I need tools for that.� I need to move
toward the joy.� It has to come from within.� I know that.� I need help with
it.� Help me.� I'm ready.� Okay, time for me to go and breathe - I can feel
the hysterical laughter starting up and I need to nip it in the bud or I'll
really freak everyone out LOL
Lee-Ann in Australia :)
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I read this when over welmed.. and it helps me remember what kind of
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Dawn
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee-Ann and Robert Storer [mailto:lrjem1@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] attitude adjustment - totally self
indulgent
Hi all,
I've been trying to give myself an attitude adjustment.� I need a web page
or something that I can just click into each day and get a new kick up the
arse.
I'm feeling resentful.� First it was secretly resentful, then it went to
'just get on with it and smile' resentful, now it's sneaking out of my mouth
resentful.� *sigh*� I know that I'm doing it.� I know that it's dragging me
down (honestly don't think the kids take that much notice because I go
through cycles like this).� I don't want to be the person that I'm being.�
I'm tired on top of it too so that's not helping and is maybe the cause of
it a bit too.
I think the thing that makes me feel the worst is that it's ALL MY DOING.
I said "yes, you can come in the house tiny feral kitten"
I said "yes let's get two goats that I'll have to bottle feed three times a
day"
I said (last Saturday) "oh look at these poor pathetic defenceless fluffy
puppies, yes we'll bring them home so they can poo and pee everywhere and
need lots of attention and eat enormous amounts of food and grow into high
energy border collie/labradors"
I never wanted pets.� I always said I didn't want pets.� So what the hell is
wrong with me that I went from no pets to 5 pets in just 9 months??!!� It
was all my decisions too!� I didn't have kids nagging me for these animals.�
They didn't even know about the goats and the puppies!!!� Oh bugger.
I knew how much responsibility I'd be taking on.� Yeah, I was hopeful that
the kids would be soooooo happy to have the pets that they'd joyfully help
me with looking after them and they do help a bit.�
I just need a big hoooooge kick up the bum.� So kick me people!� My head
voices just aren't doing the job.
I want to be excited and happy to go and feed the goats and the puppys.� I
am for the morning feed but then my tiredness catches up and I'm a grumpy
bitch for the rest of the day.� Aaarrgh.
I want to smile at the kids and go outside and play with the puppies and the
kids together all at the same time but then I go into freak out mode and I'm
trying to watch everyone all at the same time and I give orders and I feel
like I'm making everyone miserable.� And I worry that I'm not gonna get
anything done inside that I need to do to have a reasonably sane household.
I could rave on for hours.� I think I'd better right all this down in a book
somewhere so I can get it out of my head.�
I know that unschooling is about life.� It is life.� It's my life.� I just
want to be better at it and let go of the resentment (which is mostly
resentment at myself I think).� I need tools for that.� I need to move
toward the joy.� It has to come from within.� I know that.� I need help with
it.� Help me.� I'm ready.� Okay, time for me to go and breathe - I can feel
the hysterical laughter starting up and I need to nip it in the bud or I'll
really freak everyone out LOL
Lee-Ann in Australia :)
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Shot in the dark, but if the resentment has ANYTHING even vaguely to do with
unresolved issues of your own childhood and IF (just if) one of your parents
was an acoholic, I KNOW there are daily affirmations to get over some of those
feelings that can linger for a whole life and make it hard for people to
respond openly and freely to others without resentment.
If that didn't apply, WONDERFUL. Better if it doesn't. But for me, if I
hadn't worked hard on those adult-child-of-alcoholic issues, I'd never be the mom
I am now.
O.K. This really hit a nerve with me. I have resisted going to ACA meetings, etc. because my alcoholic father wanted me to. Talk about resentment! What book would you reccomend.
Thanks, Madeline
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Shot in the dark, but if the resentment has ANYTHING even vaguely to do with
unresolved issues of your own childhood and IF (just if) one of your parents
was an acoholic, I KNOW there are daily affirmations to get over some of those
feelings that can linger for a whole life and make it hard for people to
respond openly and freely to others without resentment.
If that didn't apply, WONDERFUL. Better if it doesn't. But for me, if I
hadn't worked hard on those adult-child-of-alcoholic issues, I'd never be the mom
I am now.
O.K. This really hit a nerve with me. I have resisted going to ACA meetings, etc. because my alcoholic father wanted me to. Talk about resentment! What book would you reccomend.
Thanks, Madeline
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This is a bit long and rambly again - sorry....
Okay, these are the exact responses that I was looking for and desperately needing. Thanks for the web sites, too! I could have googled them I know but really, yesterday I was too busy goggling to google <g>.
Yesterday afternoon I cleaned out a big old dog kennel for the goats. It was left by the previous owner and was full of nasty old sheep bones. It's in a pen with a wattle tree and some nice long grass. The goats like it in there. I think that relieved a little of my 'stuff' that I'm feeling right now. I was worried about the goats not having anything to graze on and nibble. Now I don't have to walk them unless I really want to have fun with them. That's one thing off my mind. I think the getting out in the fresh air and working my butt off helped a lot too. The endorphins were flowing and I felt good when I'd finished and the goats were in there munching the tree.
The puppies - now that the goats have a new day home, I've moved the puppies into the goats old day home which is just outside the loungeroom window. I can see what they're doing, we can all interact casually with them when we go outside on little errands to the bin or whatever. I don't feel like they're just stuck in the cat enclosure being miserable. At night they can go into the cat enclosure because it's more secure. That frees up the shed (which we used to live in) so that I can clean up the floor (disinfect from the puppy doings lol) and set it up as my craft room/visitors overnighter/party room(for Emma - she's a party girl).
This morning I got the animals feed ready and went to wake up Emma. "Are you coming to help with the animals, honey?" "Can you do it alone this morning mum?"
I want to be able to say "yeah, sure, not a problem, honey" and really mean it and smile and tuck her quilt around her snugly so she doesn't get cold. Instead I said "yeah, sure" with a half smiling voice but inside my guts had started churning. I'm pretty sure it's because I'm disappointed with my own attitude and not really disappointed with the kids attitudes. They're kids. They have a lot of years to sort out their feelings. Me dumping guilt on them isn't going to make the sorting easier for them. I'd be doing this stuff if I didn't have kids and I'd be doing it because I wanted to do it. I want to do it now. I like the animals. I like talking to them and being cuddled by them (even the goats cuddle lol)
I do have lots of issues to deal with. I don't think any are really from my childhood. It's mostly adult stuff - oh I don't know maybe it's all childhood but didn't come out til I was an adult. Anyway it's all there and it doesn't go away. None of it to do with alcoholic parent/parents thank goddish. I feel alone. I hate that. Like there's someone missing that I need. I'm in a house full of kids and animals and I feel alone. Now I'm getting somewhere. Thanks guys, I need to let myself feel sad about something. I can feel it happening now and I need to go somewhere quiet and let it happen.
I'm sorry for clogging the list with my crap. I thought it was about unschooling but it's about me. I appreciate the help and insight that you've given me - thankyou.
Lee-Ann in Australia
doing the emotional seesaw thing. rats.
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Okay, these are the exact responses that I was looking for and desperately needing. Thanks for the web sites, too! I could have googled them I know but really, yesterday I was too busy goggling to google <g>.
Yesterday afternoon I cleaned out a big old dog kennel for the goats. It was left by the previous owner and was full of nasty old sheep bones. It's in a pen with a wattle tree and some nice long grass. The goats like it in there. I think that relieved a little of my 'stuff' that I'm feeling right now. I was worried about the goats not having anything to graze on and nibble. Now I don't have to walk them unless I really want to have fun with them. That's one thing off my mind. I think the getting out in the fresh air and working my butt off helped a lot too. The endorphins were flowing and I felt good when I'd finished and the goats were in there munching the tree.
The puppies - now that the goats have a new day home, I've moved the puppies into the goats old day home which is just outside the loungeroom window. I can see what they're doing, we can all interact casually with them when we go outside on little errands to the bin or whatever. I don't feel like they're just stuck in the cat enclosure being miserable. At night they can go into the cat enclosure because it's more secure. That frees up the shed (which we used to live in) so that I can clean up the floor (disinfect from the puppy doings lol) and set it up as my craft room/visitors overnighter/party room(for Emma - she's a party girl).
This morning I got the animals feed ready and went to wake up Emma. "Are you coming to help with the animals, honey?" "Can you do it alone this morning mum?"
I want to be able to say "yeah, sure, not a problem, honey" and really mean it and smile and tuck her quilt around her snugly so she doesn't get cold. Instead I said "yeah, sure" with a half smiling voice but inside my guts had started churning. I'm pretty sure it's because I'm disappointed with my own attitude and not really disappointed with the kids attitudes. They're kids. They have a lot of years to sort out their feelings. Me dumping guilt on them isn't going to make the sorting easier for them. I'd be doing this stuff if I didn't have kids and I'd be doing it because I wanted to do it. I want to do it now. I like the animals. I like talking to them and being cuddled by them (even the goats cuddle lol)
I do have lots of issues to deal with. I don't think any are really from my childhood. It's mostly adult stuff - oh I don't know maybe it's all childhood but didn't come out til I was an adult. Anyway it's all there and it doesn't go away. None of it to do with alcoholic parent/parents thank goddish. I feel alone. I hate that. Like there's someone missing that I need. I'm in a house full of kids and animals and I feel alone. Now I'm getting somewhere. Thanks guys, I need to let myself feel sad about something. I can feel it happening now and I need to go somewhere quiet and let it happen.
I'm sorry for clogging the list with my crap. I thought it was about unschooling but it's about me. I appreciate the help and insight that you've given me - thankyou.
Lee-Ann in Australia
doing the emotional seesaw thing. rats.
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<< I'm sorry for clogging the list with my crap. I thought it was about
unschooling but it's about me. I appreciate the help and insight that you've
given me - thankyou. >>
If it was keeping you from unschooling and it was easy for people to throw
possibilities at it, it probably helped some other unschoolers too.
If so, TaDaaaa!
List works!
Sandra
<< I'm sorry for clogging the list with my crap. I thought it was about
unschooling but it's about me. I appreciate the help and insight that you've
given me - thankyou. >>
If it was keeping you from unschooling and it was easy for people to throw
possibilities at it, it probably helped some other unschoolers too.
If so, TaDaaaa!
List works!
Sandra
Wendy Usher-Peigan
Hey! I thought EVERYTHING was about Unschooling? Or is it, Unschooling is about everything...?
I totally relate, by the way.
Wendy
"The sheeplike tendency of human society soon makes inroads on a child's unsophistications, and then popular education completes the dastardly work with its systematic formulas, and away goes the individual, hurtling through space into that hateful oblivion of mediocrity. We are pruned into stumps, one resembling another, without character or grace." --- NC Wyeth, father of Andrew Wyeth, Artist/Painter, who was home educated.
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I totally relate, by the way.
Wendy
"The sheeplike tendency of human society soon makes inroads on a child's unsophistications, and then popular education completes the dastardly work with its systematic formulas, and away goes the individual, hurtling through space into that hateful oblivion of mediocrity. We are pruned into stumps, one resembling another, without character or grace." --- NC Wyeth, father of Andrew Wyeth, Artist/Painter, who was home educated.
Wendy Usher
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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:07 PM
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In a message dated 9/10/03 4:58:45 PM, lrjem1@... writes:
<< I'm sorry for clogging the list with my crap. I thought it was about
unschooling but it's about me. I appreciate the help and insight that you've
given me - thankyou. >>
If it was keeping you from unschooling and it was easy for people to throw
possibilities at it, it probably helped some other unschoolers too.
If so, TaDaaaa!
List works!
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Betsy
**PS I think everyone feels that way at some point in their lives (and
probably more than just one point!).
**
And it's very common to feel like this if a spouse/partner is either
working harder, or worrying more about work, and thus becoming less
cheerful and available at home.
Betsy
probably more than just one point!).
**
And it's very common to feel like this if a spouse/partner is either
working harder, or worrying more about work, and thus becoming less
cheerful and available at home.
Betsy
Susan Fuerst
>>I want to be able to say "yeah, sure, not a problem, honey" and reallymean it and smile and tuck her quilt around her snugly so she doesn't
get cold. Instead I said "yeah, sure" with a half smiling voice but
inside my guts had started churning. I'm pretty sure it's because I'm
disappointed with my own attitude and not really disappointed with the
kids attitudes. They're kids. They have a lot of years to sort out
their feelings. Me dumping guilt on them isn't going to make the
sorting easier for them. I'd be doing this stuff if I didn't have kids
and I'd be doing it because I wanted to do it. I want to do it now. I
like the animals. I like talking to them and being cuddled by them
(even the goats cuddle lol)
Lee-Ann in Australia
doing the emotional seesaw thing. rats.<<<
Lee-Ann,
I struggle with that one...not about animals, but about other
"things"....Meaning, I want to say, "yeah, sure, I'll go ahead and
do it." I still sometimes hear the guilt trip coming out of my mouth
before I can stop it! And then I wonder how to repair that, if it's
possible. I know it happens when feeling overwhelmed and pulled in too
many directions at once; when I can't seem to accomplish any of my own
goals. I am the one not enjoying my life, then I look around and see
happy children doing what they want; and resentment jumps in - then,
unfortunately at times, it jumps out of my mouth to attack them in the
form of a guilt trip.
I look at myself overall and believe these instances occur less
frequently than they used to. I'll probably never be perfect, but my
goal is to recognize it coming...maybe at that early frustration level
(which is always magnified during certain hormonal phases and when I'm
very tired). And to evaluate our current life to see if there's a way
to build in "preventative maintenance". For me, it's four children and
a hubby who works 12-14 hrs most days. There are no "Mom's helpers"
around....though I'm looking. I think I need to pay a sitter once
weekly or occasionally, but the budget is tight, it's hard to justify.
Anyway, sorry for the ramble!
Susan....also noticed you're in Australia....maybe the weather's a
factor for you, too?
Lee-Ann and Robert Storer
thanks susan,
hmmm hadn't thought about my hormones kicking in. I'm probably pre menstrual and I'm not used to having such a hard line drawn between my pms times and me being normal. I think that's a good thing, that there is actually a marked difference now instead of me being a grumpy bitch all month lol.
yeah, I can relate to your email a lot. I'm trying to count to 10 before I say anything to anyone at all. I want to be way more mindful about everything that comes out of my mouth. I hope I remember this in the morning though lol.
The weather here in australia is finally getting 'springish'. It's raining buckets right now but generally the air is feeling slightly warmer. I just need to get my insides right. do some soul work <g>
Anyway it's way late here. I've been chatting to a quilting group and that has renewed me heaps.
Going to bed now
Lee-Ann in Australia :)
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hmmm hadn't thought about my hormones kicking in. I'm probably pre menstrual and I'm not used to having such a hard line drawn between my pms times and me being normal. I think that's a good thing, that there is actually a marked difference now instead of me being a grumpy bitch all month lol.
yeah, I can relate to your email a lot. I'm trying to count to 10 before I say anything to anyone at all. I want to be way more mindful about everything that comes out of my mouth. I hope I remember this in the morning though lol.
The weather here in australia is finally getting 'springish'. It's raining buckets right now but generally the air is feeling slightly warmer. I just need to get my insides right. do some soul work <g>
Anyway it's way late here. I've been chatting to a quilting group and that has renewed me heaps.
Going to bed now
Lee-Ann in Australia :)
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<< I'm trying to count to 10 before I say anything to anyone at all. >>
Counting to ten only works if you're breathing slowly and deeply and looking
at (or thinking of) the sky or something else airy and big and peaceful. If
you count to ten holding your breath, holding your frustration, with a roaring
anger in your ears, the adrenaline isn't dissipating (the purpose of counting
to ten, to let the adrenaline pass, and hopefully to think of some good
options from which you can choose), it's just being focussed into a beam of
extraordinarily dangerous power.
While you're breathing, you could think "I love these people," or "whatever I
say could last forever."
(You probably knew that, but maybe somewhere on this list there's someone who
hadn't considered it. <bwg>)
Sandra
Counting to ten only works if you're breathing slowly and deeply and looking
at (or thinking of) the sky or something else airy and big and peaceful. If
you count to ten holding your breath, holding your frustration, with a roaring
anger in your ears, the adrenaline isn't dissipating (the purpose of counting
to ten, to let the adrenaline pass, and hopefully to think of some good
options from which you can choose), it's just being focussed into a beam of
extraordinarily dangerous power.
While you're breathing, you could think "I love these people," or "whatever I
say could last forever."
(You probably knew that, but maybe somewhere on this list there's someone who
hadn't considered it. <bwg>)
Sandra
Sara
"whatever I say could last forever."
Sometimes I forget this and it's made me cry just now. Thanks Sandra
Sometimes I forget this and it's made me cry just now. Thanks Sandra
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In a message dated 9/10/2003 1:15:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rubyprincesstsg@... writes:
regular mouse traps that instantly kills the mouse.
Walmart sells a little plastic cube mousetrap with a door that goes in but
not out. Very cheap, I think 99 cents each and you can use them over and over
again. It's see through so you can see if anything is in it. Usually we just
hear a bunch of jumping around and take it outside. We take it WAY out in the
woods and release them...sometimes (cover your ears/eyes if you think mice
shouldn't be killed) the cats follow us out into the woods and go after it once
it's released. At least if one of the cats eat it, someone is being fed. If
not, I hope there's a little happy mouse colony far away from the house :o)
Nancy B. in WV
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rubyprincesstsg@... writes:
> Finally Matthew catches the mouse in a trap, a glue type trap. He finds itEwww...I hate those kinds of traps...kinda think they're more cruel than the
>
> and the mouse is alive. It has a chunk of ear missing that has healed,
> probably from the cat, he looks at the mouse, proud that he's finally
> outsmarted this
> creature, then he takes him outside and turns him loose beside his front
> porch.
>
regular mouse traps that instantly kills the mouse.
Walmart sells a little plastic cube mousetrap with a door that goes in but
not out. Very cheap, I think 99 cents each and you can use them over and over
again. It's see through so you can see if anything is in it. Usually we just
hear a bunch of jumping around and take it outside. We take it WAY out in the
woods and release them...sometimes (cover your ears/eyes if you think mice
shouldn't be killed) the cats follow us out into the woods and go after it once
it's released. At least if one of the cats eat it, someone is being fed. If
not, I hope there's a little happy mouse colony far away from the house :o)
Nancy B. in WV
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In a message dated 9/10/2003 6:58:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lrjem1@... writes:
reason) but are these animals that they wanted, or animals that you wanted?
If you wanted them, I wouldn't even ask her to feed them, or I'd pay her to do
it (I pay our son to feed the sheep and goats and help with their care.) If
the pets are theirs, I would nicely tell them (not ask, tell) "The animals are
really hungry, hon. It's time to feed them." I don't make my kids do
anything. I ask them for help with things, and out of kindness and consideration,
they help which I REALLY appreciate. I try to never deny them help or something
they want when they need it either.
But I remind them of something that was their choice in the first place or
their responsibility. Feeding and taking care of a "being" that depends on
them, to me, is a necessity.
Nancy B. in WV
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lrjem1@... writes:
> This morning I got the animals feed ready and went to wake up Emma. "AreI think I missed the original post (I haven't been getting them all for some
> you coming to help with the animals, honey?" "Can you do it alone this
> morning mum?"
>
reason) but are these animals that they wanted, or animals that you wanted?
If you wanted them, I wouldn't even ask her to feed them, or I'd pay her to do
it (I pay our son to feed the sheep and goats and help with their care.) If
the pets are theirs, I would nicely tell them (not ask, tell) "The animals are
really hungry, hon. It's time to feed them." I don't make my kids do
anything. I ask them for help with things, and out of kindness and consideration,
they help which I REALLY appreciate. I try to never deny them help or something
they want when they need it either.
But I remind them of something that was their choice in the first place or
their responsibility. Feeding and taking care of a "being" that depends on
them, to me, is a necessity.
Nancy B. in WV
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In a message dated 9/11/2003 5:00:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CelticFrau@... writes:
one that they just got "stuck" in that he got from Walmart. I conjured up
the idea of a glue type substance that held it there myself.
I haven't had any experience with mouse traps other than the horrible
sounding snap type traps that were used when we first got married.
Thanks for helping me understand what he was talking about.
glena who is slightly envious that her son took HER brand new convertible to
the beach for a week, but is also glad he's enjoying it!
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CelticFrau@... writes:
> Walmart sells a little plastic cube mousetrap with a door that goes in butYou know what, that's probably what he had. He tried to explain to me it was
> not out. Very cheap, I think 99 cents each and you can use them over and
> over
> again. It's see through so you can see if anything is in it. Usually we
> just
> hear a bunch of jumping around and take it outside. We take it WAY out in
> the
> woods and release them...sometimes (cover your ears/eyes if you think mice
> shouldn't be killed) the cats follow us out into the woods and go after it
> once
> it's released. At least if one of the cats eat it, someone is being fed.
> If
> not, I hope there's a little happy mouse colony far away from the house :o)
>
>
one that they just got "stuck" in that he got from Walmart. I conjured up
the idea of a glue type substance that held it there myself.
I haven't had any experience with mouse traps other than the horrible
sounding snap type traps that were used when we first got married.
Thanks for helping me understand what he was talking about.
glena who is slightly envious that her son took HER brand new convertible to
the beach for a week, but is also glad he's enjoying it!
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Nancy,
We too use those no-kill traps. One time my husband went out into the woods
and there was a hawk sitting in the tree above him, the hawk watched very
carefully as the mouse was released and then swooped down and got it almost
immediately. The hawk did not seem at all perturbed by husband's presence!
Beth
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We too use those no-kill traps. One time my husband went out into the woods
and there was a hawk sitting in the tree above him, the hawk watched very
carefully as the mouse was released and then swooped down and got it almost
immediately. The hawk did not seem at all perturbed by husband's presence!
Beth
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Lee-Ann and Robert Storer
Good point Sandra <g> I was thinking more along the lines of any sort of speaking at all. I tend to say things that don't need to be said to the kids. You know kind of 'manage' them a bit. I hate that. It's like I'll say "don't forget to put the cereal away". If someone did that to me I'd probably leave it out just because thankyou very much!! It's not a snarky voice - quite often it's a loving mummy voice - but it's still the wrong thing coming out.
I'm going to dive into the archives at unschooling.com later today and immerse myself. I need heaps of reinforcement at this stage. You know I'd even forgotten my count to ten idea until I started reading the responses. *sigh*
Lee-Ann in Australia
thinking, changing, growing.
<< I'm trying to count to 10 before I say anything to anyone at all. >>
Counting to ten only works if you're breathing slowly and deeply and looking
at (or thinking of) the sky or something else airy and big and peaceful. If
you count to ten holding your breath, holding your frustration, with a roaring
anger in your ears, the adrenaline isn't dissipating (the purpose of counting
to ten, to let the adrenaline pass, and hopefully to think of some good
options from which you can choose), it's just being focussed into a beam of
extraordinarily dangerous power.
While you're breathing, you could think "I love these people," or "whatever I
say could last forever."
(You probably knew that, but maybe somewhere on this list there's someone who
hadn't considered it. <bwg>)
Sandra
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I'm going to dive into the archives at unschooling.com later today and immerse myself. I need heaps of reinforcement at this stage. You know I'd even forgotten my count to ten idea until I started reading the responses. *sigh*
Lee-Ann in Australia
thinking, changing, growing.
<< I'm trying to count to 10 before I say anything to anyone at all. >>
Counting to ten only works if you're breathing slowly and deeply and looking
at (or thinking of) the sky or something else airy and big and peaceful. If
you count to ten holding your breath, holding your frustration, with a roaring
anger in your ears, the adrenaline isn't dissipating (the purpose of counting
to ten, to let the adrenaline pass, and hopefully to think of some good
options from which you can choose), it's just being focussed into a beam of
extraordinarily dangerous power.
While you're breathing, you could think "I love these people," or "whatever I
say could last forever."
(You probably knew that, but maybe somewhere on this list there's someone who
hadn't considered it. <bwg>)
Sandra
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Lee-Ann and Robert Storer
Yeah Nancy, you must have missed the original post <g> It happens a lot lately.
I always said I didn't want pets but then for some bizarre reason known only to my subconscious I 'saved' a feral kitten (that probably didn't need saving at all), said yes to two goatlets which were offered to us and which the kids knew nothing about, and then just had to 'rescue' two border collie/labrador pups from the vicious puppy from hell that was sharing their pen in the feed shop (which the kids also knew nothing about). All this in 9 months lol. So as you can see it's all my doing.
The only reason I asked Emma if she wanted to help is because she asked me to wake her up to help me <g>
I think I'm doing much better now with the whole animal thing. In just the couple of days since I posted to this list I've had so many good thoughts coming from you all and it really has helped me.
I was wondering exactly what is happening with my life - you know the big philosophical questions - and I figured, well, I don't know exactly why I'm here but I'm gonna make the most of it and be as happy as is hoooomanly possible and hope that my happiness inspires others to be happy also. It's difficult for me to do that - especially when I don't remember these things from hour to hour and I've been secretly and not so secretly miserable and sour for such a long time. One of my brothers friends once asked me if I had my period all year because I was such a grouch. That was when I was 14. Maybe he caught me on a bad day and the label stuck with me. sheesh.
I think we're basically still in a deschooling/de-stressing phase here. It's been 18 months since the kids left school but not quite that long since I've made a conscious effort to quit trying to control every little thing. I have a long way to go and I hope the kids don't get jerked around by me too much. I guess they can't get jerked if I make the leash long enough can they???
Anyway I've rambled again.
Lee-Ann in Australia
the sun is shining here and I'm looking forward to the lunch time feedings!!
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I always said I didn't want pets but then for some bizarre reason known only to my subconscious I 'saved' a feral kitten (that probably didn't need saving at all), said yes to two goatlets which were offered to us and which the kids knew nothing about, and then just had to 'rescue' two border collie/labrador pups from the vicious puppy from hell that was sharing their pen in the feed shop (which the kids also knew nothing about). All this in 9 months lol. So as you can see it's all my doing.
The only reason I asked Emma if she wanted to help is because she asked me to wake her up to help me <g>
I think I'm doing much better now with the whole animal thing. In just the couple of days since I posted to this list I've had so many good thoughts coming from you all and it really has helped me.
I was wondering exactly what is happening with my life - you know the big philosophical questions - and I figured, well, I don't know exactly why I'm here but I'm gonna make the most of it and be as happy as is hoooomanly possible and hope that my happiness inspires others to be happy also. It's difficult for me to do that - especially when I don't remember these things from hour to hour and I've been secretly and not so secretly miserable and sour for such a long time. One of my brothers friends once asked me if I had my period all year because I was such a grouch. That was when I was 14. Maybe he caught me on a bad day and the label stuck with me. sheesh.
I think we're basically still in a deschooling/de-stressing phase here. It's been 18 months since the kids left school but not quite that long since I've made a conscious effort to quit trying to control every little thing. I have a long way to go and I hope the kids don't get jerked around by me too much. I guess they can't get jerked if I make the leash long enough can they???
Anyway I've rambled again.
Lee-Ann in Australia
the sun is shining here and I'm looking forward to the lunch time feedings!!
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Lee-Ann and Robert Storer
I need to write this on lots of stick it notes and plaster them all over the house for myself!
Lee-Ann in Australia
"whatever I say could last forever."
Sometimes I forget this and it's made me cry just now. Thanks Sandra (that bit was Sara)
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Lee-Ann in Australia
"whatever I say could last forever."
Sometimes I forget this and it's made me cry just now. Thanks Sandra (that bit was Sara)
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In a message dated 9/11/2003 5:36:10 PM Central Standard Time,
lrjem1@... writes:
"speak as if there is always someone listening, because they are."
Elizabeth
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lrjem1@... writes:
> While you're breathing, you could think "I love these people," or "whateverThe best, and possibly only, mothering advice my own mother ever gave me was
> I
> say could last forever."
>
"speak as if there is always someone listening, because they are."
Elizabeth
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LeAnn,
I'm so glad you brought your story here. Your story made me feel
not-so-alone and the advice you received has inspired me, too :)
Here's to less grump and a lot more fun!!
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
"You can follow your book and your map of wars, but I'll go and follow my
kids." -- Woody Guthrie
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I'm so glad you brought your story here. Your story made me feel
not-so-alone and the advice you received has inspired me, too :)
Here's to less grump and a lot more fun!!
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
"You can follow your book and your map of wars, but I'll go and follow my
kids." -- Woody Guthrie
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In a message dated 9/11/2003 6:54:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lrjem1@... writes:
and bubbly all the time, but could never "be" that way myself. Don't exactly
know what it is. I wouldn't say I'm deppressed, just a different sort of
person. My dad has always been somewhat quiet and subdued, I guess I just
inherited it from him. Someone once described me as melancholy. It's funny though,
my kids are amazingly outgoing, friendly, nutty and crazy at times...(in a good
way!)...maybe they picked up something from my husband's genes!!
Nancy B. in WV
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lrjem1@... writes:
> well, I don't know exactly why I'm here but I'm gonna make the most of itYou sound a lot like me. I have always envied people who are very cheerful
> and be as happy as is hoooomanly possible and hope that my happiness inspires
> others to be happy also. It's difficult for me to do that - especially when
> I don't remember these things from hour to hour and I've been secretly and
> not so secretly miserable and sour for such a long time. One of my brothers
> friends once asked me if I had my period all year because I was such a grouch.
> That was when I was 14.
and bubbly all the time, but could never "be" that way myself. Don't exactly
know what it is. I wouldn't say I'm deppressed, just a different sort of
person. My dad has always been somewhat quiet and subdued, I guess I just
inherited it from him. Someone once described me as melancholy. It's funny though,
my kids are amazingly outgoing, friendly, nutty and crazy at times...(in a good
way!)...maybe they picked up something from my husband's genes!!
Nancy B. in WV
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Lee-Ann and Robert Storer
That's funny Diana, because I was just thinking how fun you sound lol. This is a great list.
hugs, Lee-Ann in Australia
who has mowed some jungle and watched the end of George of the Jungle - what a coincidence!!!
LeAnn,
I'm so glad you brought your story here. Your story made me feel
not-so-alone and the advice you received has inspired me, too :)
Here's to less grump and a lot more fun!!
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
"You can follow your book and your map of wars, but I'll go and follow my
kids." -- Woody Guthrie
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hugs, Lee-Ann in Australia
who has mowed some jungle and watched the end of George of the Jungle - what a coincidence!!!
LeAnn,
I'm so glad you brought your story here. Your story made me feel
not-so-alone and the advice you received has inspired me, too :)
Here's to less grump and a lot more fun!!
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
"You can follow your book and your map of wars, but I'll go and follow my
kids." -- Woody Guthrie
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