Gilligan's Link
Mercedes
". . . unschooling does not work for all children.
Some children (and adults) are very happy vegetating. Others are
a sponge when it comes to learning."
These are some thoughts on a local list that I'd like to respond to.
Does anyone have a link to Sandra's essay on watching Gilligan's
Island? I'd like to include it in my response.
TIA
Mercedes
Some children (and adults) are very happy vegetating. Others are
a sponge when it comes to learning."
These are some thoughts on a local list that I'd like to respond to.
Does anyone have a link to Sandra's essay on watching Gilligan's
Island? I'd like to include it in my response.
TIA
Mercedes
Jenny E.
Here is the link to Sandra's TV page. http://sandradodd.com/tv It has the Gilligan's Island article and a couple others.
Good Luck!
Jen :o)
Mom to Beck (7) and Dane (5)
Learning the natural way every day!
Good Luck!
Jen :o)
Mom to Beck (7) and Dane (5)
Learning the natural way every day!
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From: Mercedes
These are some thoughts on a local list that I'd like to respond to.
Does anyone have a link to Sandra's essay on watching Gilligan's
Island? I'd like to include it in my response.
TIA
Mercedes
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Holly Furgason
--- In [email protected], "Mercedes"
<mulwiler@h...> wrote:
the academic type things that we have been led to believe
are "important". My experience has shown that the unschooled kids
who look like they're vegetating are just people who learn
differently and learn different things and need unschooling more than
others.
My sone was one. All those hours I thought he was vegetating in his
room he was teaching himself how to juggle, make chain mail, speak
Klingon and elvish and do a million other things. He never took home
books from the library (I've never figured out why) but just from
quickly looking through books there, he learned so much about things
like the history of monster movies, parapsychology and castles in
Europe. Not academic but to us learning is learning.
He's turned out to be just fine. Earned a 4.0 last semester in
college and he makes good money as an entertainer- better than all
those kids who studied academics and are flipping burgers!
Holly
<mulwiler@h...> wrote:
> ". . . unschooling does not work for all children.This is one of my pet peeves! The learning they're refering to is
> Some children (and adults) are very happy vegetating. Others are
> a sponge when it comes to learning."
the academic type things that we have been led to believe
are "important". My experience has shown that the unschooled kids
who look like they're vegetating are just people who learn
differently and learn different things and need unschooling more than
others.
My sone was one. All those hours I thought he was vegetating in his
room he was teaching himself how to juggle, make chain mail, speak
Klingon and elvish and do a million other things. He never took home
books from the library (I've never figured out why) but just from
quickly looking through books there, he learned so much about things
like the history of monster movies, parapsychology and castles in
Europe. Not academic but to us learning is learning.
He's turned out to be just fine. Earned a 4.0 last semester in
college and he makes good money as an entertainer- better than all
those kids who studied academics and are flipping burgers!
Holly
Heidi
Bless you, Holly!
I'm getting pressure from my mom about putting Abbie (15 yog) into
some high school math classes, because "she'll need it for sure to
get into any college"...Abbie rolls her eyeballs when I bring it up
with her...and your post reminded me of the things she has taught
herself in her alone time, in her bedroom: Irish flute, Gaelic, Old
English, Norse mythology, and who knows what all!
:) HeidiC
I'm getting pressure from my mom about putting Abbie (15 yog) into
some high school math classes, because "she'll need it for sure to
get into any college"...Abbie rolls her eyeballs when I bring it up
with her...and your post reminded me of the things she has taught
herself in her alone time, in her bedroom: Irish flute, Gaelic, Old
English, Norse mythology, and who knows what all!
:) HeidiC
> This is one of my pet peeves! The learning they're refering to isthan
> the academic type things that we have been led to believe
> are "important". My experience has shown that the unschooled kids
> who look like they're vegetating are just people who learn
> differently and learn different things and need unschooling more
> others.his
>
> My sone was one. All those hours I thought he was vegetating in
> room he was teaching himself how to juggle, make chain mail, speakhome
> Klingon and elvish and do a million other things. He never took
> books from the library (I've never figured out why) but just fromthings
> quickly looking through books there, he learned so much about
> like the history of monster movies, parapsychology and castles in
> Europe. Not academic but to us learning is learning.
>
> He's turned out to be just fine. Earned a 4.0 last semester in
> college and he makes good money as an entertainer- better than all
> those kids who studied academics and are flipping burgers!
>
> Holly
Holte email
Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, but put limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying opinions on that subject...
Dori
Dori
----- Original Message -----
From: Holly Furgason
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:32 AM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Gilligan's Link
--- In [email protected], "Mercedes"
<mulwiler@h...> wrote:
> ". . . unschooling does not work for all children.
> Some children (and adults) are very happy vegetating. Others are
> a sponge when it comes to learning."
This is one of my pet peeves! The learning they're refering to is
the academic type things that we have been led to believe
are "important". My experience has shown that the unschooled kids
who look like they're vegetating are just people who learn
differently and learn different things and need unschooling more than
others.
My sone was one. All those hours I thought he was vegetating in his
room he was teaching himself how to juggle, make chain mail, speak
Klingon and elvish and do a million other things. He never took home
books from the library (I've never figured out why) but just from
quickly looking through books there, he learned so much about things
like the history of monster movies, parapsychology and castles in
Europe. Not academic but to us learning is learning.
He's turned out to be just fine. Earned a 4.0 last semester in
college and he makes good money as an entertainer- better than all
those kids who studied academics and are flipping burgers!
Holly
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Holly Furgason
Justin didn't need math to get into college. He's "only" gone to a
community college but now has enough credits to get into University
of Houston without any transcripts or tests and could probably get
into many other colleges. He's very happy with this school though.
Holly (who can use all the blessings she can get!)
--- In [email protected], "Heidi"
<bunsofaluminum60@h...> wrote:
community college but now has enough credits to get into University
of Houston without any transcripts or tests and could probably get
into many other colleges. He's very happy with this school though.
Holly (who can use all the blessings she can get!)
--- In [email protected], "Heidi"
<bunsofaluminum60@h...> wrote:
> Bless you, Holly!is
>
> I'm getting pressure from my mom about putting Abbie (15 yog) into
> some high school math classes, because "she'll need it for sure to
> get into any college"...Abbie rolls her eyeballs when I bring it up
> with her...and your post reminded me of the things she has taught
> herself in her alone time, in her bedroom: Irish flute, Gaelic, Old
> English, Norse mythology, and who knows what all!
>
> :) HeidiC
>
> > This is one of my pet peeves! The learning they're refering to
> > the academic type things that we have been led to believekids
> > are "important". My experience has shown that the unschooled
> > who look like they're vegetating are just people who learnspeak
> > differently and learn different things and need unschooling more
> than
> > others.
> >
> > My sone was one. All those hours I thought he was vegetating in
> his
> > room he was teaching himself how to juggle, make chain mail,
> > Klingon and elvish and do a million other things. He never tookall
> home
> > books from the library (I've never figured out why) but just from
> > quickly looking through books there, he learned so much about
> things
> > like the history of monster movies, parapsychology and castles in
> > Europe. Not academic but to us learning is learning.
> >
> > He's turned out to be just fine. Earned a 4.0 last semester in
> > college and he makes good money as an entertainer- better than
> > those kids who studied academics and are flipping burgers!
> >
> > Holly
Carolyn Ashley-Wheeler
The only limits I put on my two dd's (ages six and eight) are in terms of
something I think will be too scary for them, or they aren't mentally mature
enough to handle.
Carolyn
something I think will be too scary for them, or they aren't mentally mature
enough to handle.
Carolyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holte email" <holte@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Gilligan's Link
> Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, but put
limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying opinions on
that subject...
> Dori
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Holly Furgason
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:32 AM
> Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Gilligan's Link
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "Mercedes"
> <mulwiler@h...> wrote:
> > ". . . unschooling does not work for all children.
> > Some children (and adults) are very happy vegetating. Others are
> > a sponge when it comes to learning."
>
> This is one of my pet peeves! The learning they're refering to is
> the academic type things that we have been led to believe
> are "important". My experience has shown that the unschooled kids
> who look like they're vegetating are just people who learn
> differently and learn different things and need unschooling more than
> others.
>
> My sone was one. All those hours I thought he was vegetating in his
> room he was teaching himself how to juggle, make chain mail, speak
> Klingon and elvish and do a million other things. He never took home
> books from the library (I've never figured out why) but just from
> quickly looking through books there, he learned so much about things
> like the history of monster movies, parapsychology and castles in
> Europe. Not academic but to us learning is learning.
>
> He's turned out to be just fine. Earned a 4.0 last semester in
> college and he makes good money as an entertainer- better than all
> those kids who studied academics and are flipping burgers!
>
> Holly
>
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Holly Furgason
I probably shouldn't reply because I don't fit the demographics but
my answer fits in with the vegetating thread.
I hate TV and we don't watch much. I limit both the time and the
programming severly. Our house is small and there isn't a room where
you can get away from the sound and it just sets me on *edge*- makes
me nervous and jumpy and I can't sleep if it's on anywhere in the
house. I think I'm just very sensitive to it because I can *feel*
the moment it's turned on even if the sound it all the way down.
However, Justin, my vegetating son, chooses mostly comedy when he
watches and he loves old comedies and sit coms. We have the Marx
Brothers, W.C. Fields, old screwball comedies like My Man Godfrey,
Abbott and Costello and so many more. He looks like some burn out
sitting there with his long hair, goatee and glazed eyes just
laughing like a kid at movies he's seen a million times. It turns
out that he uses the things he's learned by watching these comedians
in his work as a clown and an actor.
He now analyzes comedies (without realizing it) and told me the other
day why a local comedy act is like the Marx Brothers even though they
appear to be so different. He was almost academically analytical.
He can tell the difference between comic actors who got their start
on stage or as stand up comics or went straight to the movies or TV
just by watching them. It's really kind of cool.
Holly
--- In [email protected], "Holte email"
<holte@s...> wrote:
opinions on that subject...
my answer fits in with the vegetating thread.
I hate TV and we don't watch much. I limit both the time and the
programming severly. Our house is small and there isn't a room where
you can get away from the sound and it just sets me on *edge*- makes
me nervous and jumpy and I can't sleep if it's on anywhere in the
house. I think I'm just very sensitive to it because I can *feel*
the moment it's turned on even if the sound it all the way down.
However, Justin, my vegetating son, chooses mostly comedy when he
watches and he loves old comedies and sit coms. We have the Marx
Brothers, W.C. Fields, old screwball comedies like My Man Godfrey,
Abbott and Costello and so many more. He looks like some burn out
sitting there with his long hair, goatee and glazed eyes just
laughing like a kid at movies he's seen a million times. It turns
out that he uses the things he's learned by watching these comedians
in his work as a clown and an actor.
He now analyzes comedies (without realizing it) and told me the other
day why a local comedy act is like the Marx Brothers even though they
appear to be so different. He was almost academically analytical.
He can tell the difference between comic actors who got their start
on stage or as stand up comics or went straight to the movies or TV
just by watching them. It's really kind of cool.
Holly
--- In [email protected], "Holte email"
<holte@s...> wrote:
> Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, butput limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying
opinions on that subject...
> Doriare
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Holly Furgason
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:32 AM
> Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Gilligan's Link
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "Mercedes"
> <mulwiler@h...> wrote:
> > ". . . unschooling does not work for all children.
> > Some children (and adults) are very happy vegetating. Others
> > a sponge when it comes to learning."is
>
> This is one of my pet peeves! The learning they're refering to
> the academic type things that we have been led to believekids
> are "important". My experience has shown that the unschooled
> who look like they're vegetating are just people who learnthan
> differently and learn different things and need unschooling more
> others.his
>
> My sone was one. All those hours I thought he was vegetating in
> room he was teaching himself how to juggle, make chain mail,speak
> Klingon and elvish and do a million other things. He never tookhome
> books from the library (I've never figured out why) but just fromthings
> quickly looking through books there, he learned so much about
> like the history of monster movies, parapsychology and castles inall
> Europe. Not academic but to us learning is learning.
>
> He's turned out to be just fine. Earned a 4.0 last semester in
> college and he makes good money as an entertainer- better than
> those kids who studied academics and are flipping burgers!group.
>
> Holly
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Carolyn Ashley-Wheeler
If he's into analysing comedians he should look into Ken Dodd...
Carolyn : - )
Carolyn : - )
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holly Furgason" <unschooler@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 4:29 PM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Gilligan's Link
> I probably shouldn't reply because I don't fit the demographics but
> my answer fits in with the vegetating thread.
>
> I hate TV and we don't watch much. I limit both the time and the
> programming severly. Our house is small and there isn't a room where
> you can get away from the sound and it just sets me on *edge*- makes
> me nervous and jumpy and I can't sleep if it's on anywhere in the
> house. I think I'm just very sensitive to it because I can *feel*
> the moment it's turned on even if the sound it all the way down.
>
> However, Justin, my vegetating son, chooses mostly comedy when he
> watches and he loves old comedies and sit coms. We have the Marx
> Brothers, W.C. Fields, old screwball comedies like My Man Godfrey,
> Abbott and Costello and so many more. He looks like some burn out
> sitting there with his long hair, goatee and glazed eyes just
> laughing like a kid at movies he's seen a million times. It turns
> out that he uses the things he's learned by watching these comedians
> in his work as a clown and an actor.
>
> He now analyzes comedies (without realizing it) and told me the other
> day why a local comedy act is like the Marx Brothers even though they
> appear to be so different. He was almost academically analytical.
> He can tell the difference between comic actors who got their start
> on stage or as stand up comics or went straight to the movies or TV
> just by watching them. It's really kind of cool.
>
> Holly
>
> --- In [email protected], "Holte email"
> <holte@s...> wrote:
> > Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, but
> put limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying
> opinions on that subject...
> > Dori
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Holly Furgason
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:32 AM
> > Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Gilligan's Link
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Mercedes"
> > <mulwiler@h...> wrote:
> > > ". . . unschooling does not work for all children.
> > > Some children (and adults) are very happy vegetating. Others
> are
> > > a sponge when it comes to learning."
> >
> > This is one of my pet peeves! The learning they're refering to
> is
> > the academic type things that we have been led to believe
> > are "important". My experience has shown that the unschooled
> kids
> > who look like they're vegetating are just people who learn
> > differently and learn different things and need unschooling more
> than
> > others.
> >
> > My sone was one. All those hours I thought he was vegetating in
> his
> > room he was teaching himself how to juggle, make chain mail,
> speak
> > Klingon and elvish and do a million other things. He never took
> home
> > books from the library (I've never figured out why) but just from
> > quickly looking through books there, he learned so much about
> things
> > like the history of monster movies, parapsychology and castles in
> > Europe. Not academic but to us learning is learning.
> >
> > He's turned out to be just fine. Earned a 4.0 last semester in
> > college and he makes good money as an entertainer- better than
> all
> > those kids who studied academics and are flipping burgers!
> >
> > Holly
> >
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What do you mean you "don't fit the demographs?" Did I miss something? I often do :o)
Dori
Dori
----- Original Message -----
From: Holly Furgason
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:29 AM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Gilligan's Link
I probably shouldn't reply because I don't fit the demographics but
my answer fits in with the vegetating thread.
I hate TV and we don't watch much. I limit both the time and the
programming severly. Our house is small and there isn't a room where
you can get away from the sound and it just sets me on *edge*- makes
me nervous and jumpy and I can't sleep if it's on anywhere in the
house. I think I'm just very sensitive to it because I can *feel*
the moment it's turned on even if the sound it all the way down.
However, Justin, my vegetating son, chooses mostly comedy when he
watches and he loves old comedies and sit coms. We have the Marx
Brothers, W.C. Fields, old screwball comedies like My Man Godfrey,
Abbott and Costello and so many more. He looks like some burn out
sitting there with his long hair, goatee and glazed eyes just
laughing like a kid at movies he's seen a million times. It turns
out that he uses the things he's learned by watching these comedians
in his work as a clown and an actor.
He now analyzes comedies (without realizing it) and told me the other
day why a local comedy act is like the Marx Brothers even though they
appear to be so different. He was almost academically analytical.
He can tell the difference between comic actors who got their start
on stage or as stand up comics or went straight to the movies or TV
just by watching them. It's really kind of cool.
Holly
--- In [email protected], "Holte email"
<holte@s...> wrote:
> Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, but
put limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying
opinions on that subject...
> Dori
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Holly Furgason
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:32 AM
> Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Gilligan's Link
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "Mercedes"
> <mulwiler@h...> wrote:
> > ". . . unschooling does not work for all children.
> > Some children (and adults) are very happy vegetating. Others
are
> > a sponge when it comes to learning."
>
> This is one of my pet peeves! The learning they're refering to
is
> the academic type things that we have been led to believe
> are "important". My experience has shown that the unschooled
kids
> who look like they're vegetating are just people who learn
> differently and learn different things and need unschooling more
than
> others.
>
> My sone was one. All those hours I thought he was vegetating in
his
> room he was teaching himself how to juggle, make chain mail,
speak
> Klingon and elvish and do a million other things. He never took
home
> books from the library (I've never figured out why) but just from
> quickly looking through books there, he learned so much about
things
> like the history of monster movies, parapsychology and castles in
> Europe. Not academic but to us learning is learning.
>
> He's turned out to be just fine. Earned a 4.0 last semester in
> college and he makes good money as an entertainer- better than
all
> those kids who studied academics and are flipping burgers!
>
> Holly
>
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Heidi
HOlly
you said:
He looks like some burn out
and play it for just a bit, and can tell if it's going to be worth
his time or not. Shockwave is our main source of games, we just
download them. And Robby has played LOTS of them, and is getting
a "feel" for good ones. I don't know how deep it goes, or if it
is "analyzing" or not...but definitely discerning good from not so
good.
HeidiC
you said:
He looks like some burn out
> sitting there with his long hair, goatee and glazed eyes justcomedians
> laughing like a kid at movies he's seen a million times. It turns
> out that he uses the things he's learned by watching these
> in his work as a clown and an actor.other
>
> He now analyzes comedies (without realizing it) and told me the
> day why a local comedy act is like the Marx Brothers even thoughthey
> appear to be so different. He was almost academically analytical.I'm seeing this happen with Robby and computer games. He'll get one,
and play it for just a bit, and can tell if it's going to be worth
his time or not. Shockwave is our main source of games, we just
download them. And Robby has played LOTS of them, and is getting
a "feel" for good ones. I don't know how deep it goes, or if it
is "analyzing" or not...but definitely discerning good from not so
good.
HeidiC
Holly Furgason
--- In [email protected], "Holte email"
<holte@s...> wrote:
Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, but
put limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying
opinions on that subject...
I do limit quantity so I didn't "fit". :-)
Holly
<holte@s...> wrote:
> What do you mean you "don't fit the demographs?" Did I misssomething? I often do :o)
> DoriYour "demographics":
Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, but
put limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying
opinions on that subject...
I do limit quantity so I didn't "fit". :-)
Holly
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In a message dated 9/9/03 1:09:56 AM, mulwiler@... writes:
<< These are some thoughts on a local list that I'd like to respond to.
Does anyone have a link to Sandra's essay on watching Gilligan's
Island? I'd like to include it in my response.
for it.
http://sandradodd.com/tv
I have a link to the Gilligan's Island bit right at the top there, and it's
an easy page to remember. Also there are links to other people's stuff, and
I'll add to it.
Sandra
<< These are some thoughts on a local list that I'd like to respond to.
Does anyone have a link to Sandra's essay on watching Gilligan's
Island? I'd like to include it in my response.
>>Sorry I was away so long. I have a bad cold and sleeping has been wonderful
for it.
http://sandradodd.com/tv
I have a link to the Gilligan's Island bit right at the top there, and it's
an easy page to remember. Also there are links to other people's stuff, and
I'll add to it.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/9/03 9:03:45 AM, holte@... writes:
<< Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, but put
limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying opinions on
that subject... >>
We don't have cable, so that might affect some people's take on the response.
We get eight clear broadcast stations, being right down the hill from the
transmitters, clear line of sight.
We have five operational TVs. Three of them have video games on them. Three
have DVD players (counting the video games as DVD players too). Four play
videos. People watch recorded stuff more than they watch broadcast.
We don't limit access.
My boys are teens and have looked at some unsavory on-line stuff. I've asked
Marty not to leave anything nasty on the internet trail for his sister to
find. He usually does online games and humor (lately StrongBad, but other humor
sites) and instant messages with in-town friends. The few times he looks,
he deletes the trail. That's fine with me.
Neither of them has ever bought any "dirty magazines," nor do their older
friends seem to do that. Mostly they hang out with gamer geeks.
They've gotten where they are, being responsible teenagers, by having made
choices their whole lives about what they watched and read and did.
I nip in the bud racist or sexist humor. I told off a friend of Marty's who
said "I hate lesbians" the other night. We remind people that others'
feelings are prime in what goes on at the house. So that's the principle that says
it's okay for Marty to look at some visual stuff IF he keeps it to himself and
doesn't leave it out to be found by a click.
Kirby had a bikini-model picture up as a desktop background on his computer
for a while, and then it was Aragorn for a while, and then Strongbad's e-mail
screen, and now it's a female fantasy character with lots of fantasy clothes on.
They're not obsessed with anything.
They're all bright and informed and pretty kindhearted.
Sandra
<< Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, but put
limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying opinions on
that subject... >>
We don't have cable, so that might affect some people's take on the response.
We get eight clear broadcast stations, being right down the hill from the
transmitters, clear line of sight.
We have five operational TVs. Three of them have video games on them. Three
have DVD players (counting the video games as DVD players too). Four play
videos. People watch recorded stuff more than they watch broadcast.
We don't limit access.
My boys are teens and have looked at some unsavory on-line stuff. I've asked
Marty not to leave anything nasty on the internet trail for his sister to
find. He usually does online games and humor (lately StrongBad, but other humor
sites) and instant messages with in-town friends. The few times he looks,
he deletes the trail. That's fine with me.
Neither of them has ever bought any "dirty magazines," nor do their older
friends seem to do that. Mostly they hang out with gamer geeks.
They've gotten where they are, being responsible teenagers, by having made
choices their whole lives about what they watched and read and did.
I nip in the bud racist or sexist humor. I told off a friend of Marty's who
said "I hate lesbians" the other night. We remind people that others'
feelings are prime in what goes on at the house. So that's the principle that says
it's okay for Marty to look at some visual stuff IF he keeps it to himself and
doesn't leave it out to be found by a click.
Kirby had a bikini-model picture up as a desktop background on his computer
for a while, and then it was Aragorn for a while, and then Strongbad's e-mail
screen, and now it's a female fantasy character with lots of fantasy clothes on.
They're not obsessed with anything.
They're all bright and informed and pretty kindhearted.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/9/2003 10:03:58 AM Central Standard Time,
holte@... writes:
limit themselves. They've left friends houses when the show was too scary or too
loud or just not how they wanted to spend their time. We don't have cable,
but we have a gizzillion tapes and a smattering of dvds. They decide what they
want to watch, argue it out and then pop it in. Or not. They don't spend the
whole day in front of the tv, they are very active in a lot of things.
I rented the PBS show on babies, I think it was called Life's Greatest
Miracle. The kids have been interested in my ever expanding belly and keep asking
what Lovey (the baby, not Thurston Howell's wife) is doing. They watched a
bit, liking the pictures of the fetus, but then went to play with their castly.
It was either too gross or too boring, it was their decision. Mark and I
loved the show.
A funny note not all that related to the topic: Julia has been afraid and
shy at dance class. Hers is first (at 9 a.m., which should be a crime it's so
early) and Nathan's is the following class. She sat with her head in my
shoulder the entire first class. Today she wanted to dance, but was shy, so the
teacher asked if she would want Nathan to dance with her. They were both
thrilled! Nathan got to dance two classes, which made him happy and Julia got to
have her brother help her through the rough spots and hold her hand. At the end
of Nathan's class, the instructor was pleased that Nathan, at 5, would be
willing to dance with the babies and that he has no problem being the only boy. I
said that because they had never really been to school, it doesn't occur to
him that someone would find something odd about spending time with another age
group or gender!
Elizabeth
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holte@... writes:
> Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, but putMy two just turned four and five. We have no limits on tv, we find they
> limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying opinions on
> that subject
limit themselves. They've left friends houses when the show was too scary or too
loud or just not how they wanted to spend their time. We don't have cable,
but we have a gizzillion tapes and a smattering of dvds. They decide what they
want to watch, argue it out and then pop it in. Or not. They don't spend the
whole day in front of the tv, they are very active in a lot of things.
I rented the PBS show on babies, I think it was called Life's Greatest
Miracle. The kids have been interested in my ever expanding belly and keep asking
what Lovey (the baby, not Thurston Howell's wife) is doing. They watched a
bit, liking the pictures of the fetus, but then went to play with their castly.
It was either too gross or too boring, it was their decision. Mark and I
loved the show.
A funny note not all that related to the topic: Julia has been afraid and
shy at dance class. Hers is first (at 9 a.m., which should be a crime it's so
early) and Nathan's is the following class. She sat with her head in my
shoulder the entire first class. Today she wanted to dance, but was shy, so the
teacher asked if she would want Nathan to dance with her. They were both
thrilled! Nathan got to dance two classes, which made him happy and Julia got to
have her brother help her through the rough spots and hold her hand. At the end
of Nathan's class, the instructor was pleased that Nathan, at 5, would be
willing to dance with the babies and that he has no problem being the only boy. I
said that because they had never really been to school, it doesn't occur to
him that someone would find something odd about spending time with another age
group or gender!
Elizabeth
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Carolyn Ashley-Wheeler
Butting in, (I'd make a good goat) but I loved the last few lines!
Carolyn : - )
Carolyn : - )
----- Original Message -----
From: <ejcrewe@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Gilligan's Link
> In a message dated 9/9/2003 10:03:58 AM Central Standard Time,
> holte@... writes:
>
>
> > Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching, but put
> > limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying
opinions on
> > that subject
>
> My two just turned four and five. We have no limits on tv, we find they
> limit themselves. They've left friends houses when the show was too scary
or too
> loud or just not how they wanted to spend their time. We don't have
cable,
> but we have a gizzillion tapes and a smattering of dvds. They decide what
they
> want to watch, argue it out and then pop it in. Or not. They don't spend
the
> whole day in front of the tv, they are very active in a lot of things.
>
> I rented the PBS show on babies, I think it was called Life's Greatest
> Miracle. The kids have been interested in my ever expanding belly and
keep asking
> what Lovey (the baby, not Thurston Howell's wife) is doing. They watched
a
> bit, liking the pictures of the fetus, but then went to play with their
castly.
> It was either too gross or too boring, it was their decision. Mark and I
> loved the show.
>
> A funny note not all that related to the topic: Julia has been afraid and
> shy at dance class. Hers is first (at 9 a.m., which should be a crime
it's so
> early) and Nathan's is the following class. She sat with her head in my
> shoulder the entire first class. Today she wanted to dance, but was shy,
so the
> teacher asked if she would want Nathan to dance with her. They were both
> thrilled! Nathan got to dance two classes, which made him happy and Julia
got to
> have her brother help her through the rough spots and hold her hand. At
the end
> of Nathan's class, the instructor was pleased that Nathan, at 5, would be
> willing to dance with the babies and that he has no problem being the only
boy. I
> said that because they had never really been to school, it doesn't occur
to
> him that someone would find something odd about spending time with another
age
> group or gender!
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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--- In [email protected], ejcrewe@a... wrote:
But likewise it grates on my nerves and I have asked him if he had a
problem with turning it off between 10:30 and 4pm. He said no and he
knows if there is something he really wants to watch during that
time, he can. I do ask the two boys not to view any porno on the
computer. It's very offensive to me and I don't want any history,
cookies or popups or anything remotely related to it on this PC. We
talk about this and other than that there are no restrictions. Pete
doesn't like scary stuff and only now is watching action movies some
kids saw when they were 5 or 6! His best bud used to have terrible
nightmares because of what he watched. Pete has never had bad dreams
or nightmares....I believe the security of being at home and loved
and being free keeps his mind worry free. Sara
> In a message dated 9/9/2003 10:03:58 AM Central Standard Time,but put
> holte@s... writes:
>
>
> > Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching,
> > limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varyingopinions on
> > that subjectMy son will have the TV on all the time for the rest of his life! :).
But likewise it grates on my nerves and I have asked him if he had a
problem with turning it off between 10:30 and 4pm. He said no and he
knows if there is something he really wants to watch during that
time, he can. I do ask the two boys not to view any porno on the
computer. It's very offensive to me and I don't want any history,
cookies or popups or anything remotely related to it on this PC. We
talk about this and other than that there are no restrictions. Pete
doesn't like scary stuff and only now is watching action movies some
kids saw when they were 5 or 6! His best bud used to have terrible
nightmares because of what he watched. Pete has never had bad dreams
or nightmares....I believe the security of being at home and loved
and being free keeps his mind worry free. Sara
>"At the end
> of Nathan's class, the instructor was pleased that Nathan, at 5,would be
> willing to dance with the babies and that he has no problem beingthe only boy. I
> said that because they had never really been to school, it doesn'toccur to
> him that someone would find something odd about spending time withanother age
> group or gender!"I love this and hope he always feels this way.
Olga
We starting lifting restriction in the beginning of this year. Our
summer has been crazy with moving and the kids have spent much more
time than I would have liked watching TV, but than again I was not
offering anything better during our days at this time (i.e going to
the park, movies, musuem, etc.). I had that little worry in the
back of my head about them sitting there forever, but lately my son
turns the option of TV down when it comes up. NOt all the time, but
he is does not jump at the chance tro watch which is how he used to
act when I offered it. I guess it took time but he knows he can put
it on when he wants and it does get boring after a while. Right now
his main limitation is he really does not know all the channels so
it pretty much stays where it is set (PBS kids or Disney,
whatever). He likes cartoons and kids shows at 5 and is content
with that.
He can also definitly moniter his own fear of shows. He requests
any "scary movies" on DVD (he has already requested Pirates of the
Carribean) and he can use the controller to flip past any part that
unnverves him. I was worried about Spiderman because it has some
pretty graphic things, but he watched all the great stuff with no
interest in the scary parts. He has an imagination that can go
crazy like both me and dh so that control has been great for him.
We are lucky with the move, we have a play room downstairs and the
tv is on in there so it does not drive me crazy. I like a little
peace occasionaly so in the old house I would be inclined to turn it
off for sanity's sake!
Olga :)
summer has been crazy with moving and the kids have spent much more
time than I would have liked watching TV, but than again I was not
offering anything better during our days at this time (i.e going to
the park, movies, musuem, etc.). I had that little worry in the
back of my head about them sitting there forever, but lately my son
turns the option of TV down when it comes up. NOt all the time, but
he is does not jump at the chance tro watch which is how he used to
act when I offered it. I guess it took time but he knows he can put
it on when he wants and it does get boring after a while. Right now
his main limitation is he really does not know all the channels so
it pretty much stays where it is set (PBS kids or Disney,
whatever). He likes cartoons and kids shows at 5 and is content
with that.
He can also definitly moniter his own fear of shows. He requests
any "scary movies" on DVD (he has already requested Pirates of the
Carribean) and he can use the controller to flip past any part that
unnverves him. I was worried about Spiderman because it has some
pretty graphic things, but he watched all the great stuff with no
interest in the scary parts. He has an imagination that can go
crazy like both me and dh so that control has been great for him.
We are lucky with the move, we have a play room downstairs and the
tv is on in there so it does not drive me crazy. I like a little
peace occasionaly so in the old house I would be inclined to turn it
off for sanity's sake!
Olga :)
--- In [email protected], ejcrewe@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 9/9/2003 10:03:58 AM Central Standard Time,
> holte@s... writes:
>
>
> > Just curious, how many of you don't limit quantity TV watching,
but put
> > limits on types of programming? Would love to hear some varying
opinions on
> > that subject
>
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