Julie Bogart

Just wondered what you all think. When (if ever) is there a benefit
to be gained from classroom instruction on a specific topic?

Julie B

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In a message dated 8/29/2003 1:18:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
julie@... writes:

> Just wondered what you all think. When (if ever) is there a benefit
> to be gained from classroom instruction on a specific topic?

When they're going to give you a certificate you really need.
(first aid, CPR, ?)

Group music (not quite "classroom instruction," but choir/orchestra)

Karate (not quite classroom but groups help)

Marty liked the "classes" (presentations) at the junior police academy.

Visiting artist doing a presentation (calligraphy, glass bead making,
seminar/workshop style "class")

Lots of those would work better with one-on-one, but sometimes there's no
opportunity other than special presentations.

The talks at the unschooling conference were closer to "classrooom
instruction" than not, though I tried to make mine more like inspirational comedy. It
would be more 'unschoolingish'' for people to hang around my family's regular
haunts and get to know us, but not everybody can.

Sandra


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In a message dated 8/29/2003 3:18:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
julie@... writes:
Just wondered what you all think. When (if ever) is there a benefit
to be gained from classroom instruction on a specific topic?
When you WANT classroom instruction?

I think that, if there is a desire, there is a benefit. If there's NO desire,
it's worthless.

I can't, right off, think of a circumstance when it would be MORE beneficial
to be in a classroom lecture. I think that things learned in a classroom can
ALL be learned better one-on-one or under a "mentorship/apprenticeship" or by
being in a situation with a more knowledgeable person. There are things that
are normally taught in classrooms (other than school stuff), like maybe karate
or something. But that can CERTAINLY be learned one-on-one! Sometimes there's
not another option---like driver's ed (first hand experience in that this week!
<G>), but it's still not as good as the REAL thing!

~Kelly


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Pamela Sorooshiantafti

>>I can't, right off, think of a circumstance when it would be MORE beneficial
to be in a classroom lecture. <<

Roxana (15) just got home from her first "costume design/history" class at the local community college. She's THRILLED with it. The teacher came highly recommended as able to make historical times come alive. She told stories and showed slides and took them into a room filled with costumes and talked about them.

I learned a lot!!! (Because Roxana didn't stop talking all the way home!!)

-pam

Robyn Coburn

This highlights one of the things about "classroom instruction" that can
be a positive - the use of facilities. For example the potter's wheels
and kiln at a ceramics workshop. Of course this is not the group based
instruction part of "classroom". I feel that having access to the
"hardware" of technical facilities might part of why so many
homeschoolers enroll at community colleges, even when the "software" of
lectures/information are available in other forms. I guess we are back
at apprentice/mentor relationships again.

Robyn Coburn



<<She told stories and showed slides and took them into a room filled
with costumes and talked about them.>>





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In a message dated 8/29/03 8:45:06 PM, dezigna@... writes:

<< This highlights one of the things about "classroom instruction" that can
be a positive - the use of facilities. For example the potter's wheels
and kiln at a ceramics workshop. >>

Darkrooms!

Sometimes a person doesn't have another "in"
or isn't sure she would be interested
without a toe-in-the-water.

If a person can quit, the experience of formal-classroom is different too.

Sandra