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In a message dated 8/27/03 2:51:25 PM, dezigna@... writes:

<< This story about your daughter's vet experiences needs to put into one
of the "Unschooling is fabulous" type folders that some people are
hosting!! How delightful - another convert (ie the vet) - hope he has
some children of his own one day. >>

I've saved it, and I'm willing to try to find it an online home, but when I
write such a page, it's going to be hard to get parents to GET it.

We had a discussion after the conference, some of us, about how unschooled
kids with jobs are GREAT employees, really responsible, not shirkers, and how
some of them get jobs without ever applying for them, they're offered jobs.

It's complex, though.

Just like with "Moving a Puddle," you can't go around looking for a job to
luck into. You have to go around looking at what's right in front of you and
doing what seems best and good and fun, and doing it without thought to whether
it will turn into more.

It's simple from that end. Just be, and be happy, and be helpful, and don't
be desperate.

If moms go out and say "Other unschoolers have had epiphonal moments helping
with bulk mailings or cleaning out vets' cages, so I would like for you to
take this, my child you have never met before, and let him clean cages or do mass
mailings."

That's not how it works.

How it DOES work is harder to describe than how it doesn't work.

Sandra

Fetteroll

on 8/28/03 5:47 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

> We had a discussion after the conference, some of us, about how unschooled
> kids with jobs are GREAT employees, really responsible, not shirkers, and how
> some of them get jobs without ever applying for them, they're offered jobs.

My husband gave up his rat race job at a big company to go back to school
about 6 years ago so he could pursue sports related fields that interested
him. Ever since then jobs have fallen into this lap. He just talks to people
who enjoy the same things he does and when they have an opening or hear of
an opening they think of him.

He's doing what he enjoys and the jobs are coming to him, just the way it's
supposed to happen for unschoolers who go after what they enjoy. :-)

Joyce

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In a message dated 8/28/03 5:50:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> Just like with "Moving a Puddle," you can't go around looking for a job to
> luck into. You have to go around looking at what's right in front of you
> and
> doing what seems best and good and fun, and doing it without thought to
> whether
> it will turn into more.
>
> It's simple from that end. Just be, and be happy, and be helpful, and don't
>
> be desperate.
>

This is how Anna has gotten a pretty good babysitting business going. Anna
is not a really outgoing, "conversation initiating" person. But, she LOVES
babies, and once she feels comfortable with thier parents, she opens up and
really connects with the kids. She got her first jobs just by going to play
group with us, she being the oldest kid there. She would just play with the
little kids, that is how she got her first job as a Mommy's helper. She then
got a job watching some of the kids during a bible study on Thursday nights.
As folks started asking her about babysitting, she made a resume to hand out.
Another mother from our play group asked her to babysit for her a couple of
times, and that led her hiring Anna to watch the children at a 3 day training
conference for some local La Leche League leaders. ( it was 3 mornings,
9-12) Anna watched 6 kids during the meetings. And, one of those mothers called
her and she has sat for her twice.! Last week, she earned almost $100
babysitting. She now has business cards and she has started making a
calandar/schedule to keep up with her jobs. She had to turn someone down for Sunday
afternoon because we are going camping. She started volunteering at a local
preschool this week, and I am sure this will lead to more baby sitting jobs.

Anna has such a love for children, and a deep understanding and wisdom about
what they need how to interact with them. She feels more comfortable when
it's just her and the kids, I think she feels somewhat inhibited when thier
parents are hovering, like they are holding her under close scrutiny.. And, I'm
sure they are.. LOL. .After all, most mothers want to be sure and confident
with thier babysitter. But, as she gets to know the children and the parents
better, it is almost always a great connection for everyone. She has watched
some kids that she did not like the way the parents treated the kids, and she
would not agree to "punish" them when thier parents were gone. She felt so
bad for the kids, but she was glad to not be called back to watch them. She
has a plan ( and it could change at any time).. that she wants to continue her
babysitting jobs, study early childhood probably at a community college,
then get Montessori Training and open her own Montessori School. But she also
wants to have a big family and stay at home and unschool them. The good
thing about it is, she can have that plan for now, and she can change it, modify
it, drop it, or continue to pursue it.

Teresa


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