Paradox

Ren

I think you are becoming blurred in your sensibilites as to what is
generally acceptable, by what is acceptable in your own home.

There is a difference. A big difference !

Try going to a toddler group, or anywhere where parents are with their young
children, and call one of the other children a slug, and see what reaction
you get !

Chris


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ren" <starsuncloud@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:30 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-Discussion]


>
> "Doesn't mean I don't love them. Doesn't mean I don't take care of htem.
> Doesn't mean I'm a bad person. Just means babies don't thrill me.
>
> Kelly"
>
> Exactly.
> My dh does not care for the baby stage. That doesn't mean he does not
ADORE his own children from the moment he laid eyes on them, it means he
enjoys other stages better. It's not a crime to enjoy certain stages more
than others. And it doesn't lessen the love you feel for your own children
in any way.
> I happen to adore toddlers. Chubby, cute, silly-talking, busy toddlers.
Especially that really kissable place right underneath their chin.
Mmmmmm....
>
> And the slug comment? OH PLEASE! Slug means SLOW MOVING...as in Sluggish.
My dh often says "I feel like such a slug today" when he's feeling slow and
tired. It was a total JOKE. If you found it in poor taste, then I venture to
say that there is a lot of humor that you might want to ignore. I happen to
know Kelly respects her children deeply and intensely and is not
disrespectful to anyone elses children either. My very busy babsy boy felt
very comfortable and loved at the conference last year, he'll be there again
this year.
> We stayed with the Lovejoys for a couple of nights and felt completely at
ease, welcomed and all filled up with joy when we left.
> Babies ARE slugs...not in a bad way, it wasn't meant as a put down.
Sheesh.
>
> Ren

Julie Solich

> There is a difference. A big difference !
>
> Try going to a toddler group, or anywhere where parents are with their
young
> children, and call one of the other children a slug, and see what reaction
> you get !
>
> Chris
>
I'm confused. Somebody help me please!! I thought Kelly made a humorous
remark about babies in general. Now it sounds as though she singled
someone's child out. Did I miss something?

Julie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ren" <starsuncloud@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:30 AM
> Subject: [Unschooling-Discussion]
>
>
> >
> > "Doesn't mean I don't love them. Doesn't mean I don't take care of
htem.
> > Doesn't mean I'm a bad person. Just means babies don't thrill me.
> >
> > Kelly"
> >
> > Exactly.
> > My dh does not care for the baby stage. That doesn't mean he does not
> ADORE his own children from the moment he laid eyes on them, it means he
> enjoys other stages better. It's not a crime to enjoy certain stages more
> than others. And it doesn't lessen the love you feel for your own children
> in any way.
> > I happen to adore toddlers. Chubby, cute, silly-talking, busy toddlers.
> Especially that really kissable place right underneath their chin.
> Mmmmmm....
> >
> > And the slug comment? OH PLEASE! Slug means SLOW MOVING...as in
Sluggish.
> My dh often says "I feel like such a slug today" when he's feeling slow
and
> tired. It was a total JOKE. If you found it in poor taste, then I venture
to
> say that there is a lot of humor that you might want to ignore. I happen
to
> know Kelly respects her children deeply and intensely and is not
> disrespectful to anyone elses children either. My very busy babsy boy felt
> very comfortable and loved at the conference last year, he'll be there
again
> this year.
> > We stayed with the Lovejoys for a couple of nights and felt completely
at
> ease, welcomed and all filled up with joy when we left.
> > Babies ARE slugs...not in a bad way, it wasn't meant as a put down.
> Sheesh.
> >
> > Ren
>
>
>
>
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Paradox

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie Solich" <mjsolich@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-Discussion] Slugs (was blank)


> I'm confused. Somebody help me please!! I thought Kelly made a humorous
> remark about babies in general. Now it sounds as though she singled
> someone's child out. Did I miss something?
>
Julie

My comments referred to Ren's post.

>Babies ARE slugs...not in a bad way, it wasn't meant as a put down.
> > Sheesh.
> > > Ren

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paradox" <paradox@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:11 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-Discussion] Slugs (was blank)


> Ren
>
> I think you are becoming blurred in your sensibilites as to what is
> generally acceptable, by what is acceptable in your own home.
>
> There is a difference. A big difference !
>
> Try going to a toddler group, or anywhere where parents are with their
young
> children, and call one of the other children a slug, and see what reaction
> you get !
>
> Chris

Pamela Sorooshian

On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 03:11 AM, Paradox wrote:

> Try going to a toddler group, or anywhere where parents are with their
> young
> children, and call one of the other children a slug, and see what
> reaction
> you get !

LOL - I'll try it today and report back!

I think tone of voice is obviously REALLY important and people should
remember it is all in their own heads if they haven't met the other
person in real life.

So - think of "You little slug, you" in a warm cuddly lovey-dovey voice
while mommy is gazing into sweet little baby's eyes.


-pam

Paradox

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela Sorooshian" <pamsoroosh@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-Discussion] Slugs (was blank)


>
> On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 03:11 AM, Paradox wrote:
>
> > Try going to a toddler group, or anywhere where parents are with their
> > young
> > children, and call one of the other children a slug, and see what
> > reaction
> > you get !
>
> LOL - I'll try it today and report back!
>

Pam

You're braver than I am !

chris

[email protected]

In a message dated 8/8/03 1:26:30 PM, pamsoroosh@... writes:

<< call one of the other children a slug, and see what
> reaction
> you get !

LOL - I'll try it today and report back!
>>



It would be easily possible for someone to say
"Oh. Cute baby" with FULL FORCE of snarky sarcastic evil intent.

It's appalling yet fascinating that this conversation went on for so many
posts about something that was never mean in the first place.

Sandra