Heather Woodward

Sierra picked up a line from the Madeline movie..."I can do anything", and I
heard her saying it to herself a few times.
When she really wanted to learn how to ride a bike last year, she got
frustrated and I reminded her of the "I can do anything" phrase and
suggested she repeat it to herself when the going got tough. I heard her
muttering "I can do ANYthing" under her breath several times...she figured
that durn bike out in two days. It was quite amazing.
THat's her mantra now.
Cool.

It's my Mantra ;-) I personally loved this about Madeline....


Heather

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> 1. Re: A question about boredom
> From: amycats2@...
> 2. Re: Re:boys/girls
> From: Christina Morrissey <cvw@...>
> 3. Re: Digest Number 3861
> From: spcparents@...
> 4. Re: A question about boredom
> From: SandraDodd@...
> 5. Re: modeling, letting your children choose and little girls...
> From: SandraDodd@...
> 6. power of girls
> From: Ren <starsuncloud@...>
> 7. Re: Re:boys/girls
> From: SandraDodd@...
> 8. Re: regional realities (was but isn't now modeling, letting your
children choose and little girls...
> From: SandraDodd@...
> 9. Re: Digest Number 3860
> From: SandraDodd@...
> 10. name calling
> From: SandraDodd@...
> 11. childhood memories missing
> From: "Kelly Lenhart" <mina@...>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:37:37 EDT
> From: amycats2@...
> Subject: Re: A question about boredom
>
>
>
> > Do kids who haven't been in school experience boredom, or do they
> > entertain themselves more automatically? Does "deschooling" get rid of
> > this if it is a school phenomena? How do you all deal with boredom?>>
>
> We have been having an experience with a friend's 5yo son. He enters K
this
> year and has been in preschool for the past 2 years. We (myself and 2
kids)
> went to the zoo with them last month and he declared each exhibit
"B-o-r-r-ring!"
> He is unimpressed with most things and his mom talks about how she must
> always entertain him. I can honestly say that my kids (who are young
still) have
> never said that they are bored or even asked me to give them ideas of
something
> to do.
> Amy Kagey
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:45:14 -0700
> From: Christina Morrissey <cvw@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:boys/girls
>
>
> ><<<<<like the child is purposely going to NOT be careful? ...........Of
> >course the kids will be careful, why would they not be[?]>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> >One of my son's friends is a 16 yo self-avowed Xtreme sports fan,
> >particularly of bikes and skateboards. I have known this "child" for the
> >last 5 years. Lots of problems. His favorite past time is to
> >"push-the-envelope" with his sports equipment. It gets bloodier every
> >year. The rest of the boys just think it's hilarious and stupid, but
with
> >a tone of admiration thrown in. He just got his drivers permit.
>
>
> Christina
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:22:13 EDT
> From: spcparents@...
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3861
>
> One thing I learned early, back up your statements with facts or shut up.
> Sandra, I respect you. You speak only when necessary, and it's usually
short
> and to the point.
>
> Pam
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:41:44 EDT
> From: SandraDodd@...
> Subject: Re: A question about boredom
>
>
> In a message dated 7/23/03 10:12:20 PM, HaHaMommy@... writes:
>
> << > but we are spending a lot of time watching the same
>
> > episodes of cartoons over and over and my mind is turning to mush.
>
> >>
>
> Can you ask why that's a favorite episode, or comment on whatever you find
> interesting? Kirby and I used to discuss the methods and motivations of
> Splinter, the Ninja Turtles' teacher--why sometimes he would hang back and
let them
> make decisions, but sometimes he didn't. Those conversations invariably
> touched on things in our own relationship, or in other families he knew.
We also
> talked about voicework (one of Kirby's earliest interests was voice acting
for
> cartoons and puppets--he figured out on his own really early that Mr.
Rogers
> was doing more than one voice, and that Kermit was Bert with a different
tone
> in the voice and so on, so I would research and supply him names and some
> details and trivia, and he would tell me when one of the voice actors he
was
> familiar with did a bit on another show or on a commercial. He was always
right.
> Just something he has the ability to hear. Animaniacs was WAY fun for him
> because he could tell me who was doing what.
>
> Sandra
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:44:40 EDT
> From: SandraDodd@...
> Subject: Re: modeling, letting your children choose and little girls...
>
>
> In a message dated 7/23/03 11:13:36 PM, treegoddess@... writes:
>
> << The funny thing about that is that Elmo, Bert & Ernie, Cookie Monster,
>
> Big Bird, Snuffy, Oscar, etc. don't go to school. Ever. They play and
>
> learn all day in freedom! :) >>
>
> True!
>
> We have a storybook about them being in school and doing a show and tell.
>
> We've talked, here about how many of the PBS kids' shows are about
emotions
> and decision making and often in the context of preparing for school
> specifically. Dragontales is quite that direction. Barney BIGtime.
Arthur. I used
> to tell Marty those things, but Holly tells me. She'll say, "Hey! They
just
> had this part because they want kids not to be afraid of school."
>
> "Yep."
>
> And that's not too evil a thing in a culture (or a family) which sees
school
> as inevitable.
>
> Sandra
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:44:36 GMT
> From: Ren <starsuncloud@...>
> Subject: power of girls
>
>
> "We can do it, Girls can do ANYTHING!" and Carissa
> confidently added "Yep, Girls are POWERFUL!"
>
> I like this.
>
> Sierra picked up a line from the Madeline movie..."I can do anything", and
I heard her saying it to herself a few times.
> When she really wanted to learn how to ride a bike last year, she got
frustrated and I reminded her of the "I can do anything" phrase and
suggested she repeat it to herself when the going got tough. I heard her
muttering "I can do ANYthing" under her breath several times...she figured
that durn bike out in two days. It was quite amazing.
> THat's her mantra now.
> Cool.
>
> Ren
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:51:00 EDT
> From: SandraDodd@...
> Subject: Re: Re:boys/girls
>
>
> In a message dated 7/24/03 12:37:44 AM, joylyn@... writes:
>
> << Not
> one person said "be careful"--uh, I hate that phrase, like the child is
> purposely going to NOT be careful? I always want to say, when someone
> says "Drive carefully", "thanks for reminding me, otherwise I might have
> driven crazily, speeding and running stop signs and the like." >>
>
> I try not to say those things to others too much, or maybe I still say
them
> but I hear myself.
>
> But when people say it to me, I don't mind. When I'm leaving on a car
trip
> out of town, Keith always checklists me at the end: water? caffein?
snacks?
> be careful.
>
> And when friends of mine say "drive carefully" I see it more as a kind of
> blessing on the trip, like I have my own carefulness and theirs added to
it.
> Keith often says "Be safe," and in that wording it really IS just a
straight out
> blessing.
>
> I feel like if five people told me to be careful I WOULD be more careful,
> because in my head their voices would be there, and I would remember that
they
> cared enough about me to be there when I was leaving and give me some
special
> energy for the trip. They could've been in watching TV and eating, but
instead
> they gave me a "fare well" (another blessing which means just about the
same
> as the others).
>
> Sandra
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:12:56 EDT
> From: SandraDodd@...
> Subject: Re: regional realities (was but isn't now modeling, letting your
children choose and little girls...
>
>
>
> << our high-altitude
> SUNSHINE >>
>
> I would like to buy an adjective.
>
> high-elevation sunshine
> (not high altitude, sorry--it's shining right on the ground)
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:18:22 EDT
> From: SandraDodd@...
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3860
>
>
> In a message dated 7/23/03 9:22:46 PM, starsuncloud@... writes:
>
> << Although I believe these things were in my heart all along, the words
were
> not mine to begin with...I borrow these thoughts/words all the time. >>
>
> John Holt stirs up some stuff in me that way.
>
> I think when you read something that puts words to what you didn't have
words
> for from some earlier point in your life, you end up reviewing lots of
prior
> stuff, and it turns into your own words about your own experiences. But
some
> experiences seem locked up like rocks until someone identifies the
individual
> parts of them for you somehow.
>
> That's how it seems to me, anyway. If it never occurred to "an A
student,"
> for example that each A they got kept someone else from being top, they
might
> never have thought of how important it might have been for the person who
kept
> coming in second or third to be first JUST ONCE. Of it might never have
> occurred to someone who was great in gym or sports that other kids might
have been
> trying MUCH harder and wanting success MUCH more, but just didn't have the
> talent.
>
> Reviewing those kinds of things in new light can make it EASY in some ways
to
> see what unschooled kids need and need to avoid, and what we can say or
point
> out to them to help them be compassionate about other kids' relative
talents
> and successes.
>
> Some people's childhood memories are almost completely closed off, and so
> they don't have that to draw on and are somewhat at a disadvantage in
> understanding what kids are thinking and feeling. It's better if you can
remember being
> eight instead of just trusting that you must have been, and having a
photo,
> but no real memories.
>
> It's one thing to just quote a person. It's a whole other thing to filter
> your memories through their words or ideas so that you end up maybe saying
the
> same things, only behind the words you have vivid real KNOWLEDGE of how
that
> worked (or didn't) in your life and how it is working in your child's
life.
>
> Sandra
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:26:34 EDT
> From: SandraDodd@...
> Subject: name calling
>
> "On another network" it is being claimed that on this list people are
> "called names."
>
> I've been called names. But usually by people who aren't being very
> rational, so I don't take it personally.
>
> Does anyone have any "names" people have been called to throw out here so
we
> can consider whether that claim is true?
>
> The claim was (I think, from what I was forwarded) that the main core of
> people here (? or just me? me and some?) call people names, and that it's
all in
> the archives.
>
> I don't think it's true, and since there are some people on both lists, I
> thought if it IS true, people here should be easily able to name those
kinds of
> names people have been called. I know I've said lots of times that some
> recommended or proposed action or behavior wasn't the closest way to get
to
> unschooling. I can't think of times it involved calling a person a name.
>
> Without quoting who and to whom, can we come up with a list of these names
> people have been called? If it's true, I'm just losing my memory, I
guess.
> Help!
>
> Sandra
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:51:37 -0400
> From: "Kelly Lenhart" <mina@...>
> Subject: childhood memories missing
>
> >Some people's childhood memories are almost completely closed off, and so
> >they don't have that to draw on and are somewhat at a disadvantage in
> >understanding what kids are thinking and feeling. It's better if you
can
> remember being
> >eight instead of just trusting that you must have been, and having a
photo,
> >but no real memories.
> >Sandra
>
> You know, I never thought about this.
>
> I have almost no memories of elementary school age and younger. My
parents
> split when I was in fifth grade, and I remember that. I remember the
places
> we lived before that and the people who lived near, but not much more.
>
> Part of it, I feel, is that I had no sibs then, to back up my memories. I
> didn't get sibs until my mom remarried and had my first brother when I was
> 19. (At 36 I have 17 and 14 year old brothers (mom's) and an almost 12
year
> old sister (dad's))
>
> But I also just don't remember much of anything before the day my folks
> brought me in and said Dad was moving out. Oh, and my mom swears I
actually
> helped my dad move into his bachelor pad. Uhm, ok Mom, I beleive you
> but....NOTHING!!!
>
> So that's what, no real memories from before age 10? My husband talks
about
> remembering Kindergarten and earlier. Nope, not me.
>
> I wonder how much of that has to do with not being able to get into the
head
> of my 7 year old sometimes. Weird, I just never put the two together.
> Have to really think about this.
>
> Gee, thanks Sandra! -grin-
>
> Kelly
>
>
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