why I post....
Joylyn
Tia Leschke wrote:
new mom who, as a former teacher who knew EVERYTHING about kids before
becoming a mom, had very different ideas about life and parenting and
kids than I do now. I was sometimes on the receiving end of some very
harsh but valuable words which challenged my thinking and my actions.
When I got on line I was going to nurse for one year, but not a day
longer and by god I would not ever nurse a walking talking toddler or,
oh my the horror, and OLDER child. Yep, I ended up eating those words,
as my oldest nursed until almost six and my five year old, whom I made
the mistake of calling weaned last year at 4 1/2 still a few times a
week asks to nurse. I would never have had an open mind to even
consider nursing an older child if a few very strong minded and open
mouthed women (and a few men) had not opened their mouth and sometimes
strongly helped me to reconsider my ideas and parenting philosophies.
Ten years ago the idea of unschooling would have been a horrible one for
me, near child abuse. Yes, small children can learn their letters and
such with a hands on gentle approach, but reading needed a direct
approach, math needed to be taught, year by year, with different skills
being taught, and then retaught, each year. I did know one family who
homeschooled, a very interesting person who had a large number of kids
in Alb. New Mexico, and she was completely blind. I really don't know
how she homeschooled, but I know I was impressed with her and probably
just assumed that she schooled at home. Sandra, wonder if this person
sounds familiar to you?
10 years ago I would have thought that homeschooling was something only
a very few could do, probably those with a background in education or a
masters degree or better, those with very smart children who have no
difficulties learning--hardly something the average mother or father
could do. And I certainly could not have thought, ever, that
homeschooling might not take place at odd hours, as it does in our
household--9-3:15, that's when kids learn! With a planned scheduled
lunch and two breaks, morning and afternoon, but the rest of the time
should be at the kitchen table learning with books and curriculum and
stuff planned out in advance.
I'm sure glad Bonnie was on Parent-L and introduced me to another type
of learning. I'm sure glad that Parent-L was around and that I had an
open mind and that instead of getting all defensive I was able to open
my mind and think--hey, there is a different way! Oh wait, I better say
this or Dar will say it for me, I'm sure--sometimes I did get defensive,
sometimes I was called on the carpet, sometimes people were, gasp, rough
with me, a lot straight forward and laying it on the line and
challenging my beliefs and opinions and ideas and make me think again
and change those opinions and beliefs and ideas. All those strong
Parent-L women, I'm sure they sometimes felt like I would never change
my ways, but I was open minded enough to think about stuff and figure
out what was best for my family. And I have to say that sometimes I
learned the most during threads where I contributed little or nothing
but just listened and thought.
And that is my hope here. If there is just one one parent out there who
has been reading this thread and is thinking... then to me it's worth
it. This isn't about me, it isn't about Oom or whatever her name is, to
me part of it is the augumentation skills involved in forming coherent
thoughts and auguments; and the rest of it is simply an outlet to
express my belief, but if one person gets something from this, then
that's even better.
but I do love a good debate.
Joylyn, whose 8 year old was watching Peter Pan II yesterday and said,
to my amusement, "MOM, that is SO TOTALLY Historically Inaccurate!" No
doubt, but still, child, it's a CARTOON!
>I have to agree completely with this. When I first got on line, I was a
> > I agree Tia. But by the same token, so could everyone else who
> contributed
> > and contributed and contributed. They were heard, if Chris chooses
> not to
> > listen, then why continue the argument? One would not need to defend
> themselves
> > unless they were continually being beraded.
>
> It's not done for Chris. She has chosen her path. It's done for the
> lurkers who just might be at the point of giving up on spanking.
new mom who, as a former teacher who knew EVERYTHING about kids before
becoming a mom, had very different ideas about life and parenting and
kids than I do now. I was sometimes on the receiving end of some very
harsh but valuable words which challenged my thinking and my actions.
When I got on line I was going to nurse for one year, but not a day
longer and by god I would not ever nurse a walking talking toddler or,
oh my the horror, and OLDER child. Yep, I ended up eating those words,
as my oldest nursed until almost six and my five year old, whom I made
the mistake of calling weaned last year at 4 1/2 still a few times a
week asks to nurse. I would never have had an open mind to even
consider nursing an older child if a few very strong minded and open
mouthed women (and a few men) had not opened their mouth and sometimes
strongly helped me to reconsider my ideas and parenting philosophies.
Ten years ago the idea of unschooling would have been a horrible one for
me, near child abuse. Yes, small children can learn their letters and
such with a hands on gentle approach, but reading needed a direct
approach, math needed to be taught, year by year, with different skills
being taught, and then retaught, each year. I did know one family who
homeschooled, a very interesting person who had a large number of kids
in Alb. New Mexico, and she was completely blind. I really don't know
how she homeschooled, but I know I was impressed with her and probably
just assumed that she schooled at home. Sandra, wonder if this person
sounds familiar to you?
10 years ago I would have thought that homeschooling was something only
a very few could do, probably those with a background in education or a
masters degree or better, those with very smart children who have no
difficulties learning--hardly something the average mother or father
could do. And I certainly could not have thought, ever, that
homeschooling might not take place at odd hours, as it does in our
household--9-3:15, that's when kids learn! With a planned scheduled
lunch and two breaks, morning and afternoon, but the rest of the time
should be at the kitchen table learning with books and curriculum and
stuff planned out in advance.
I'm sure glad Bonnie was on Parent-L and introduced me to another type
of learning. I'm sure glad that Parent-L was around and that I had an
open mind and that instead of getting all defensive I was able to open
my mind and think--hey, there is a different way! Oh wait, I better say
this or Dar will say it for me, I'm sure--sometimes I did get defensive,
sometimes I was called on the carpet, sometimes people were, gasp, rough
with me, a lot straight forward and laying it on the line and
challenging my beliefs and opinions and ideas and make me think again
and change those opinions and beliefs and ideas. All those strong
Parent-L women, I'm sure they sometimes felt like I would never change
my ways, but I was open minded enough to think about stuff and figure
out what was best for my family. And I have to say that sometimes I
learned the most during threads where I contributed little or nothing
but just listened and thought.
And that is my hope here. If there is just one one parent out there who
has been reading this thread and is thinking... then to me it's worth
it. This isn't about me, it isn't about Oom or whatever her name is, to
me part of it is the augumentation skills involved in forming coherent
thoughts and auguments; and the rest of it is simply an outlet to
express my belief, but if one person gets something from this, then
that's even better.
but I do love a good debate.
Joylyn, whose 8 year old was watching Peter Pan II yesterday and said,
to my amusement, "MOM, that is SO TOTALLY Historically Inaccurate!" No
doubt, but still, child, it's a CARTOON!
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In a message dated 7/21/2003 10:49:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
joylyn@... writes:
If her oldest child was (is) a girl named Kendra, I knew they when Kirby was
little, through LLL, and Kendra later babysat for a friend of mine until
she/Kendra married really young. (15 or 16)
I can try to track them down if you're curious.
Sandra
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joylyn@... writes:
> I did know one family whoWas her name Kathy? I'm sleepy and not thinking of her last name.
> homeschooled, a very interesting person who had a large number of kids
> in Alb. New Mexico, and she was completely blind. I really don't know
> how she homeschooled, but I know I was impressed with her and probably
> just assumed that she schooled at home. Sandra, wonder if this person
> sounds familiar to you?
>
If her oldest child was (is) a girl named Kendra, I knew they when Kirby was
little, through LLL, and Kendra later babysat for a friend of mine until
she/Kendra married really young. (15 or 16)
I can try to track them down if you're curious.
Sandra
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Joylyn
Yes, Kathy sounds right, but again this was 10 years ago.
Sure, track them down. I wonder if they remember me. I wonder if she
realizes what a difference she made in my thinking, it was the
beginning. Before that point I didn't even know homeschooling was
possible. I knew one of her younger sons, who was about 6 or so at the
time, in 1991 or so.
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
Sure, track them down. I wonder if they remember me. I wonder if she
realizes what a difference she made in my thinking, it was the
beginning. Before that point I didn't even know homeschooling was
possible. I knew one of her younger sons, who was about 6 or so at the
time, in 1991 or so.
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
> In a message dated 7/21/2003 10:49:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time,[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> joylyn@... writes:
>
> > I did know one family who
> > homeschooled, a very interesting person who had a large number of kids
> > in Alb. New Mexico, and she was completely blind. I really don't know
> > how she homeschooled, but I know I was impressed with her and probably
> > just assumed that she schooled at home. Sandra, wonder if this person
> > sounds familiar to you?
> >
>
> Was her name Kathy? I'm sleepy and not thinking of her last name.
>
> If her oldest child was (is) a girl named Kendra, I knew they when
> Kirby was
> little, through LLL, and Kendra later babysat for a friend of mine until
> she/Kendra married really young. (15 or 16)
>
> I can try to track them down if you're curious.
>
> Sandra
>
>
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Joylyn
Did I answer this? I think I did but I can't remember, it's been busy
the last few days. Yes, I think her name was Kathy....
I would be curious to chat with her, so if you can...
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
the last few days. Yes, I think her name was Kathy....
I would be curious to chat with her, so if you can...
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
> In a message dated 7/21/2003 10:49:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time,[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> joylyn@... writes:
>
> > I did know one family who
> > homeschooled, a very interesting person who had a large number of kids
> > in Alb. New Mexico, and she was completely blind. I really don't know
> > how she homeschooled, but I know I was impressed with her and probably
> > just assumed that she schooled at home. Sandra, wonder if this person
> > sounds familiar to you?
> >
>
> Was her name Kathy? I'm sleepy and not thinking of her last name.
>
> If her oldest child was (is) a girl named Kendra, I knew they when
> Kirby was
> little, through LLL, and Kendra later babysat for a friend of mine until
> she/Kendra married really young. (15 or 16)
>
> I can try to track them down if you're curious.
>
> Sandra
>
>
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