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<<Ohhh, where's that? lol Gimme a link, please?>>

Aimee,

It's a great list, I think you would enjoy it.

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Backstrom kelli

Hi everyone. I am relatively new to the ideas of unschooling but have been trying to practice for half a year now and am enjoying. My question today is about my almost 11 yr olds interest in modeling. She gets people telling her that she shoudl be a model all the time becuase she is so tall (5'2") and she is very pretty. However, I am so scared of the idea of somebody telling her that she is not pretty or she needs to lose weight, ect. I also know NOTHING about this industry aside from what I read in articles and stuff like that. So after much discussion my dh and I decided that this is something that she clearly has expressed interest in and we should support her. I don't even know where to begin finding a modeling class (do they offer classes or is it all pageants?) I don't know anything about this and to make matters worse whenever I search on google it comes up with pornography! and then, I feel even worse, like what am I getting my little dd in to? I want to support her in
whatever interests her so I am OPEN to any ideas... anyone been there with experience here? Thanks, Kelli

CabinOnTheLedge@... wrote:CabinOnTheLedge@... writes: radical unschoolers list

<<Ohhh, where's that? lol Gimme a link, please?>>

Aimee,

It's a great list, I think you would enjoy it.

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And there is another great unschooling list I belong to also -

Unschooling - 1208 members (catching up with this list for sure)
[email protected]

Kim

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In a message dated 7/22/03 6:35:27 AM, kellibac@... writes:

<< So after much discussion my dh and I decided that this is something that
she clearly has expressed interest in and we should support her. I don't even
know where to begin finding a modeling class (do they offer classes or is it
all pageants?) >>

Holly went to John Robert Powers for a year. It was expensive, and she
enjoyed it most of the time and when the year was over she was glad it was done.
She took four or six different classes, depending how you count it. She could
repeat a class within that year and when a teacher changed it was like a
whole different class.

Part of what the school is after is getting the kids to want and need
headshots and modelling cards because they'll get a cut of what the photographer and
printers charge. We just did our own and they didn't like it but oh well.
Holly to several acting auditions, no modelling auditions, but there were
opportunities she took and some she skipped, to model a little.

Now she knows lots more than she knew before.

Some parents who go there are happier with the situation than others. We
went in fairly skeptical. We liked a couple of the teachers there a lot, and
some were doofi. Holly enjoyed some of the kids, and others were iffy. She was
fascinated by how school-based the examples and dialogs and examples and
questions were.

A large part of what their Image class is about is overcoming the negative
effects of school! REbuilding a positive self image. Holly never lost hers.

Sandra

Backstrom kelli

that is so funny that you mention these school based analogies, I notice them more and more on tv and in the media now. Like, everytime Sadie turns on a preschool show she is always asking me when she will be able to go to school... I tell her we are learning everyday just being here together... but Elmo and all those guys make it sound so great, mommy! Oh well... food for thought. Molly and I talked alot about this again last night and after much research on the web she decided she wants to really try acting, which I think she will love so we are going to start that in the fall. Ugh, another muggy day in the east coast, I miss that dry weather in NM Sandra, I feel like we live in a jungle! Kelli

SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 7/22/03 6:35:27 AM, kellibac@... writes:

<< So after much discussion my dh and I decided that this is something that
she clearly has expressed interest in and we should support her. I don't even
know where to begin finding a modeling class (do they offer classes or is it
all pageants?) >>

Holly went to John Robert Powers for a year. It was expensive, and she
enjoyed it most of the time and when the year was over she was glad it was done.
She took four or six different classes, depending how you count it. She could
repeat a class within that year and when a teacher changed it was like a
whole different class.

Part of what the school is after is getting the kids to want and need
headshots and modelling cards because they'll get a cut of what the photographer and
printers charge. We just did our own and they didn't like it but oh well.
Holly to several acting auditions, no modelling auditions, but there were
opportunities she took and some she skipped, to model a little.

Now she knows lots more than she knew before.

Some parents who go there are happier with the situation than others. We
went in fairly skeptical. We liked a couple of the teachers there a lot, and
some were doofi. Holly enjoyed some of the kids, and others were iffy. She was
fascinated by how school-based the examples and dialogs and examples and
questions were.

A large part of what their Image class is about is overcoming the negative
effects of school! REbuilding a positive self image. Holly never lost hers.

Sandra

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On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 06:44 AM, Backstrom kelli wrote:

> Like, everytime Sadie turns on a preschool show she is always asking
> me when she will be able to go to school... I tell her we are learning
> everyday just being here together... but Elmo and all those guys make
> it sound so great, mommy!

Even though my oldest two weren't even in school, my youngest wanted "a
teacher" - when she was 5. So we signed up for a week-long, 2 hours per
day, science class at the local nature center and she was able for a
couple of YEARS after that to say "My teacher this..." and "My teacher
that....". That satisfied her completely.

-pam

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Backstrom kelli wrote:

>I tell her we are learning everyday just being here together... but Elmo and all those guys make it sound so great, mommy!
>
The funny thing about that is that Elmo, Bert & Ernie, Cookie Monster,
Big Bird, Snuffy, Oscar, etc. don't go to school. Ever. They play and
learn all day in freedom! :)

TreeGoddess

Backstrom kelli

It's a great idea, thanks. I am actually going to be taking some of the $ that we will be saving next year (we had intended to send Sadie to a preschool until several months ago when we decided to unschool) and get her in to swimming lessons and continue the dance she had started this year. So that should help her a little. Kelli

Pamela Sorooshian <pamsoroosh@...> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 06:44 AM, Backstrom kelli wrote:

> Like, everytime Sadie turns on a preschool show she is always asking
> me when she will be able to go to school... I tell her we are learning
> everyday just being here together... but Elmo and all those guys make
> it sound so great, mommy!

Even though my oldest two weren't even in school, my youngest wanted "a
teacher" - when she was 5. So we signed up for a week-long, 2 hours per
day, science class at the local nature center and she was able for a
couple of YEARS after that to say "My teacher this..." and "My teacher
that....". That satisfied her completely.

-pam


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Backstrom kelli

hmmm, never thought about that one... I'll have to point that out, I wish I could live on Sesame St! Kelli

"treegoddess@..." <treegoddess@...> wrote:Backstrom kelli wrote:

>I tell her we are learning everyday just being here together... but Elmo and all those guys make it sound so great, mommy!
>
The funny thing about that is that Elmo, Bert & Ernie, Cookie Monster,
Big Bird, Snuffy, Oscar, etc. don't go to school. Ever. They play and
learn all day in freedom! :)

TreeGoddess


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In a message dated 7/23/03 11:13:36 PM, treegoddess@... writes:

<< The funny thing about that is that Elmo, Bert & Ernie, Cookie Monster,

Big Bird, Snuffy, Oscar, etc. don't go to school. Ever. They play and

learn all day in freedom! :) >>

True!

We have a storybook about them being in school and doing a show and tell.

We've talked, here about how many of the PBS kids' shows are about emotions
and decision making and often in the context of preparing for school
specifically. Dragontales is quite that direction. Barney BIGtime. Arthur. I used
to tell Marty those things, but Holly tells me. She'll say, "Hey! They just
had this part because they want kids not to be afraid of school."

"Yep."

And that's not too evil a thing in a culture (or a family) which sees school
as inevitable.

Sandra