Kimberly

I've been thinking a lot about my attitude and the way that I have
addressed many of the members here on the list and for what it is
worth to anyone, I apologize. I can see that I have been taking on my
mom's bitchy ways and I really don't want to be like that, especially
on a list that has helped me so much. It is not easy to come on here
and put this out to all of you but I feel for me to better myself it
is a chance I'll have to take.

Sandra, I apologize to you the most. I admire you and understand now
why it is you speak the way you do. I've learned a lot from you and I
thank-you for sharing all that you know just to help others.

Tim, I was tacky with what I said to you. I apologize. I was taking
my horrible experience with mom out on you. It should be her that I
spoke up to not you. I apologize.

Barb, You were right, I was tacky sad to say. Thank-you for making me
take a good look at myself.

Glena, sorry I stuck my nose into situations that had nothing to do
with me and putting you down.

I can't remember everyone that I spoke to or stuck my 2 cents in when
it was not wanted. I apologize to all of you also. Unschooling has
caused me to change with our son and now I guess it is causing me to
see that I need to change also. Something mom has not shown me but
this list has. Thanks

Kim

Susan Durand

I'm new to the group and haven't noticed any of your postings, but it takes
courage to write an e-mail like this and I think it's wonderful that you
took the time!
Susan in Atlanta
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly [mailto:HOMESCHOOL4GOOD@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-Discussion] Re: Been Thinking


I've been thinking a lot about my attitude and the way that I have
addressed many of the members here on the list and for what it is
worth to anyone, I apologize. I can see that I have been taking on my
mom's bitchy ways and I really don't want to be like that, especially
on a list that has helped me so much. It is not easy to come on here
and put this out to all of you but I feel for me to better myself it
is a chance I'll have to take.

Sandra, I apologize to you the most. I admire you and understand now
why it is you speak the way you do. I've learned a lot from you and I
thank-you for sharing all that you know just to help others.

Tim, I was tacky with what I said to you. I apologize. I was taking
my horrible experience with mom out on you. It should be her that I
spoke up to not you. I apologize.

Barb, You were right, I was tacky sad to say. Thank-you for making me
take a good look at myself.

Glena, sorry I stuck my nose into situations that had nothing to do
with me and putting you down.

I can't remember everyone that I spoke to or stuck my 2 cents in when
it was not wanted. I apologize to all of you also. Unschooling has
caused me to change with our son and now I guess it is causing me to
see that I need to change also. Something mom has not shown me but
this list has. Thanks

Kim


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[email protected]

In a message dated 7/16/2003 3:52:56 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
HOMESCHOOL4GOOD@... writes:

> Sandra, I apologize to you the most. I admire you and understand now
> why it is you speak the way you do. I've learned a lot from you and I
> thank-you for sharing all that you know just to help others.
>

Thanks.
I don't being cranky and defensive is just part of dealing with things which
touch deep emotional roots. Nearly all of us have school memories we don't
want to stir up, and mom-memories of the same sort too, and so whenever really
deep whys and whats are being discussed, some part of the group is likely to
feel raw about it.

The answer isn't to stop discussing those issues, though, I don't think, but
to realize that moving toward giving our kids what we didn't have is going to
stir up old stuff.

Kim, I'm looking forward to opportunities to work along with you and others
here to help people who maybe haven't even found this list yet, and those who
are here but haven't asked any questions yet.

[and just for general information, my computer is having a serious problem,
and we have houseguests, and I'm going to be less active and available for the
next several days. Sorry.]


Sandra

Sandra


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[email protected]

<<I'm new to the group and haven't noticed any of your postings>>

Welcome Susan! Consider yourself lucky that you have not noticed my postings!
<g>

<<but it takes courage to write an e-mail like this and I think it's
wonderful that you
took the time!>>

Thank-you! It takes courage to change and I'm trying real hard!

Kim

[email protected]

In a message dated 7/16/2003 9:35:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sdurand1@... writes:

> Glena, sorry I stuck my nose into situations that had nothing to do
> with me and putting you down.
>
> I can't remember everyone that I spoke to or stuck my 2 cents in when
> it was not wanted. I apologize to all of you also. Unschooling has
> caused me to change with our son and now I guess it is causing me to
> see that I need to change also. Something mom has not shown me but
> this list has. Thanks
>
> Kim
>

Kim,

Apology accepted. Thank you very much.

glena


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Barb Eaton

Kim,
Thanks for this. :-)
I'm sorry to hear about your childhood. Sounds like a really hard
situation your in. Don'tcha just wish you could just move away. Doesn't
sound as if you have that choice. :-(


Barb E
"The function of the child is to live his own life - not the life that his
anxious parents think he should live, nor the life according to the purpose
of the educator who thinks he knows what is best. All of this interference
and guidance on the part of adults only produces a generation of robots."
A S Neill





>
> Barb, You were right, I was tacky sad to say. Thank-you for making me
> take a good look at myself.
>
>
> Kim

Kimberly

<<Thanks for this. :-)>>


Thank-you Barb for being so understanding. :-)


<<Don'tcha just wish you could just move away. Doesn't sound as if
you
have that choice. :-(>>


Actually we are moving out of state as we speak. We will be
completely
moved and gone by the end of this month so things are starting to
change, on my part at least. Mom, is another story!


Kim <who is running out of room to save all these great quotes and
tips>

<<"The function of the child is to live his own life - not the life
that his anxious parents think he should live, nor the life according
to the purpose of the educator who thinks he knows what is best. All
of this interference and guidance on the part of adults only produces
a generation of robots">>

Barb Eaton

Kim,
That is good news. Distance does help and I really didn't have $$ for
too many phone calls either. Both my dh and I have family living far far
away. LOL! Are you the ones moving to NH? I have a hard time remembering,
sorry.

> Actually we are moving out of state as we speak. We will be
> completely
> moved and gone by the end of this month so things are starting to
> change, on my part at least. Mom, is another story!

I keep a folder for quotes. The ones I really really like go into my
signature files. This one is my favorite quote. It's my standard quote. I
was glad to see the completed quote posted on Unschooling Cafe after someone
had picked up the shortened version.
Now the tips are another story. I have to clear folders out
occasionally. I hate to do it but I'm not into web pages and the like. I
really like Kellys' idea of printing it out but I've done that before with
another list and then don't read it again either. So clearing out works for
this slow old Mac. Good luck.
>
>
> Kim <who is running out of room to save all these great quotes and
> tips>
>

Barb E
"No one can make you change.
No one can stop you from changing.
No one really knows how you must change.
Not even you.
Not until you start. "

- Dr. David Viscott, Author and Psychologist

CloseKnitFamilyOf3

--- In [email protected], Barb Eaton
<homemama@i...> wrote:

<<Kim, Are you the ones moving to NH?>>


Yes, we are the ones! Your memory is working just fine <g>


<<I really like Kellys' idea of printing it out but I've done that
before with another list and then don't read it again either.>>


This is what I started doing. I print out so much that dh is going in
a tail spin because we are supposed to be packing and I keep printing
things out and hanging them all around the house!

Thanks again for all your wonderful quotes.

Kim

[email protected]

In a message dated 7/21/2003 5:03:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CabinOnTheLedge@... writes:


> I keep printing
> things out and hanging them all around the house!
>

Punch holes and put them in a three ring notebook. You can double print if it
covers two topics. At least the move would be smoother! <g> Then you could
hang them all over the house when you're settled! Unschooling wallpaper!

~Kelly


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