[email protected]

In a message dated 7/7/03 10:11:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

> How do people get their
> children to homeschool. exactly? did you use consequences? rewards?
> How did you present the idea that there were things they had to do ?I
> will ask on other lists as well. Np matter how much I feel that
> unschooling is a wonderful choice for the family -somehow I feel that I
> got here by default.**
>
>

School at home never worked for me either. I wanted it to, but it's not
natural and my kids helped me see that. I do know lots of "successful" school at
homers (Doh!) Most of them seem to be that super organized, super structured
type. They've been very structured with their kids since birth and that has
simply continued. They tend to have "chores", their houses are neat and clean, they
have time for hobbies.
I think they're all anal.
*~*Elissa Jill*~*
unschooling Momma to 3 beautiful brilliant people
Loving partner for life to Joey
terrible guitarist, fair singer and happy woman.






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Fetteroll

In a message dated 7/7/03 10:11:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

> How do people get their
> children to homeschool. exactly? did you use consequences? rewards?
> How did you present the idea that there were things they had to do ?

I think the more the kids have to do, the more harsh the tactics the parents
have to have. Unless they've got really compliant kids, or have done the
"groundwork" -- swift no nonsense punishment for disobedience as soon as mom
felt they were ready to obey -- so their kids know they don't have a choice
except to do what mom says.

The one mom I knew who did some school at home, had her kids do those big
workbooks at the table in the morning. There wasn't much time required of
the kids compared to a curriculum. Her attitude appeared to be you don't
have a choice, get it over and done with so you can do what you want to do.
And then repeat as often as necessary, adding volume and firmness. Pretty
much the attitude and techniques parents use with chores and brushing teeth
and anything else parents make kids do.

Joyce

[email protected]

In a message dated 7/8/03 9:54:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
fetteroll@... writes:

> Her attitude appeared to be you don't
> have a choice, get it over and done with so you can do what you want to do.
> And then repeat as often as necessary, adding volume and firmness. Pretty
> much the attitude and techniques parents use with chores and brushing teeth
> and anything else parents make kids do.
>

Which, therein, IMHO, lies the beauty of unschooling. I've not had ONE
SINGLE FIGHT since I pulled my daughter out of school at the end of her 6th grade
year over learning. Now, LOL, we may have a few go-arounds this year, because
we ABSOLUTELY NEED to do the stuff that she had no interest in (Algebra, for
one, probably the only, really) since she's wanting to go to college in 2
years. Other than that, she's pretty much a self-directed learner. No fights
about what to get done.

Tracy
We forfeit three-fourths of ourselves in order to be like other people.

~Arthur Schopenhauer~


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nellebelle

>>>>>Now, LOL, we may have a few go-arounds this year, because
we ABSOLUTELY NEED to do the stuff that she had no interest in (Algebra, for
one, probably the only, really) since she's wanting to go to college in 2
years. Other than that, she's pretty much a self-directed learner.>>>>>>

Maybe you should do the algebra while she continues as a self-directed learner?<g>

Mary Ellen

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[email protected]

In a message dated 7/8/03 8:30:15 AM, LuvsToHomeschool@... writes:

<< Now, LOL, we may have a few go-arounds this year, because
we ABSOLUTELY NEED to do the stuff that she had no interest in (Algebra, for
one, probably the only, really) since she's wanting to go to college in 2
years. >>

That's a questionable "absolute need."
You could have avoided those fights too!

Sandra

Alan & Brenda Leonard

7/8/03 16:18:

> Most of them seem to be that super organized, super structured
> type. They've been very structured with their kids since birth and that has
> simply continued. They tend to have "chores", their houses are neat and clean,
> they
> have time for hobbies.
> I think they're all anal.

Not that is has anything to do with school at home, but if you leave my son
out of it, I tend towards those thing. You can be organized, have a neat
and clean house, and time for hobbies, and be as anal as you like. But you
still don't have to inflict it on your children! I'm anal to my house and
especially to my kitchen, so I fulfill my own needs there. Tim does what he
wants. He's not a total disaster, but he's definitely not my level of
organized. And that's fine!

brenda

Mary

From: "Alan & Brenda Leonard" <abtleo@...>

<< Not that is has anything to do with school at home, but if you leave my
son
out of it, I tend towards those thing. You can be organized, have a neat
and clean house, and time for hobbies, and be as anal as you like. But you
still don't have to inflict it on your children! I'm anal to my house and
especially to my kitchen, so I fulfill my own needs there. Tim does what he
wants. He's not a total disaster, but he's definitely not my level of
organized. And that's fine!>>


That's us all over!!! I'm the anal one but it has no affect on Joe or the
kids. It's all about me!!!!

Mary B

shantinik

--- In [email protected], "Mary" <mummy124@b...>
wrote:
> From: "Alan & Brenda Leonard" <abtleo@e...>
>
> << Not that is has anything to do with school at home, but if you
leave my
> son
> out of it, I tend towards those thing. You can be organized, have
a neat
> and clean house, and time for hobbies, and be as anal as you like.

We could probably use ONE in our house! (my wife and I decided long
ago that we could keep a cleaner and neater house, but it would ruin
our relationship. Now we just blame it on the kids! (little do they
know....)

david
www.skylarksings.com