Re:Helen, re: Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 7/1/2003 2:59:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
very inappropriate behavior regarding Sandra on this list. I sent it directly
because I wanted to model a perhaps more appropriate way to handle a conflict
than skewering someone on a large list, out of the blue. Helen, you obviously
didn't "get" it.
I HAVE seen Sandra tell people to grow up. I have never seen her do that with
someone who was genuinely trying to learn and understand what unschooling and
trusting their children were all about, even if they were slow or making LOTS
of mistakes. It's always been in the context of someone so intent on proving
they're right that they disrupt the list.
This is not to say that Sandra, or any of us, is perfect.
And maybe there is a need for more lists. If so, they'll be successful. If
not, they'll disappear. No big deal.
But, Helen, I think you have something else going on with Sandra, and you're
taking your stuff out on her (and frankly, the rest of us). Your comments are
getting more and more nasty, cutting, and divisive. For the life of me, I
can't figure out why. I don't know if it matters. But I expected better from you.
Kathryn, who believes we should be kind to one another, gentle when we can
be, and deal directly with conflict when it arises
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[email protected] writes:
> >Sorry this is so long.....I like the list the way it is. I'm glad I stuckSigh... I sent Helen an individual note, talking about what I believe was her
> >around. Hand-holding gets boring really fast.
>
> And that's why we have more lists now: Because some people still need
> their hands held, and don't need people just impatiently telling them
> to "grow up." Something for everyone.
>
very inappropriate behavior regarding Sandra on this list. I sent it directly
because I wanted to model a perhaps more appropriate way to handle a conflict
than skewering someone on a large list, out of the blue. Helen, you obviously
didn't "get" it.
I HAVE seen Sandra tell people to grow up. I have never seen her do that with
someone who was genuinely trying to learn and understand what unschooling and
trusting their children were all about, even if they were slow or making LOTS
of mistakes. It's always been in the context of someone so intent on proving
they're right that they disrupt the list.
This is not to say that Sandra, or any of us, is perfect.
And maybe there is a need for more lists. If so, they'll be successful. If
not, they'll disappear. No big deal.
But, Helen, I think you have something else going on with Sandra, and you're
taking your stuff out on her (and frankly, the rest of us). Your comments are
getting more and more nasty, cutting, and divisive. For the life of me, I
can't figure out why. I don't know if it matters. But I expected better from you.
Kathryn, who believes we should be kind to one another, gentle when we can
be, and deal directly with conflict when it arises
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Helen Hegener
At 3:27 PM -0400 7/1/03, KathrynJB@... wrote:
Helen
>But, Helen, I think you have something else going on with Sandra, and you'reNope. Sorry. You're barking up the wrong tree here.
>taking your stuff out on her (and frankly, the rest of us).
Helen