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In a message dated 6/25/03 11:43:20 AM, crazymoma67@... writes:

<< Some folks on this group want to make it

seem like it is an "us" vs "them" standpoint. >>

You mean as opposed to approving of parents who make an "us" vs. "them" with
their parenting?

<< Either you unschool

by AP, no rules, no bedtimes, no chores, no restrictions.. OR you are

NOT an unschooler. >>

I don't believe that either.
Yet your examples are unfair and unrealistic. We have a bag of chocolate
chips in the pantry in plain view. Nobody would eat them without asking if they
were saved for something soon. Yet my kids COULD if they wanted ask me to
buy a bag of chocolate chips expressly for them to eat. But none of them ever
has.

So there IS something to this weird parenting stuff.

<<Folks on this group openly admit they have an arbitrary set

of "guidelines" that define unschooling >>

I don't think arbitrary means what you think it means.
I don't think it's a set of guidelines, its observance of the workings of a
principle.

<<How about an unschooling group that does not discriminate based on

rank?>>

You could start your own. Yahoogroups makes it really easy to start a group.
You could advertise it here! But you would HAVE to be the listowner;
yahoogroups can't work without a listowner. The listowner outranks spammers,
straight up.

Sandra