coyote's corner

Beautiful!!
and the humans are cute too!
janis
----- Original Message -----
From: grlynbl@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]Our Puppies


I made a web page(s) for pix of our puppies! We've tried to take pix every
week.. Aren't they cute!!

Teresa

http://hometown.aol.com/grlynbl/myhomepage/Index.htm


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Mary

From: <grlynbl@...>


<<I made a web page(s) for pix of our puppies! We've tried to take pix
every
week.. Aren't they cute!!>>


Oh Teresa!! That was just plain mean. You're working on my emotions now.
They are adorable.

Mary B (who's glad you're not next door) Oh you know what I mean!

kayb85

My daughter wants me to ask you what state you live in. (She's
looking for a puppy).
Sheila

> > http://hometown.aol.com/grlynbl/myhomepage/Index.htm
>
> I forgot to say not to overlook the next/prev buttons on the bottom
of each
> page
>
> Teresa
>
>
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[email protected]

In a message dated 6/13/03 12:49:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mummy124@... writes:

> Oh Teresa!! That was just plain mean. You're working on my emotions now.
> They are adorable.
>

Honestly, they get cuter every week.. :-) But, I also know, that they will
outgrow that cute puppy stage and become BIG dogs. I'm not too worried about
finding them homes. I am going to stake out at Petsmart in a couple of weeks
and hopefully some happy families will end up with a new puppy.

Teresa


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[email protected]

In a message dated 6/13/2003 4:17:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
grlynbl@... writes:
> I am going to stake out at Petsmart in a couple of weeks
> and hopefully some happy families will end up with a new puppy.

Teresa,

I truly understand wanting to get rid of them---and you'll want to even more,
the older they get (six weeks and older is murder!). BUT. Taking them to
Petsmart will end up dumping them on some unsuspecting family who'll have no idea
what they're getting. Some mom and child will see these precious darlings and
take one home---without having even planned to get a puppy. The dad may be
mad and take it out on the pup. The novelty will wear off and the pup will wind
up ignored in the back yard.

Put an ad in the paper: "Mom, yellow lab. Dad, weekend Casanova --or Champion
fence climber--or something catchy. $50 donation will go to local shelter.
Pup MUST be spayed or neutered." Put the ad in NOW. Don't let the pups go
until they're---minimum---eight weeks old. If folks call now and still want one in
two weeks, or whenever they're ready, then they REALLY want that puppy and
aren't just getting a puppy on a whim. A dog is a lifelong commitment.

Make up a small contract---maybe they could pay $75 and get $25 back after
you see proof of spay/neuter. And by signing the contract, they agree to adore
the dog forever. <g> You can make it cute and fun.

The shelter would appreciate it---and you could get your girl spayed too.

Be responsible about the lives you have brought into this world. They ARE
your responsibility now.

~Kelly



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Mary

From: <kbcdlovejo@...>

<< Be responsible about the lives you have brought into this world. They ARE
your responsibility now. >>


Great ideas and loved the whole post. You are a real Madame. Well except
sometimes your eyes get a big foggy when it comes to seeing Beagles!!!

Mary B

[email protected]

In a message dated 6/13/03 3:04:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sheran@...
writes:

> My daughter wants me to ask you what state you live in. (She's
> looking for a puppy).
> Sheila
>

We live in NC, Catawba Co. Between Asheville and Charlotte

Teresa


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[email protected]

In a message dated 6/13/03 4:36:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kbcdlovejo@... writes:

> Taking them to
> Petsmart will end up dumping them on some unsuspecting family who'll have no
> idea
> what they're getting. Some mom and child will see these precious darlings
> and
> take one home---without having even planned to get a puppy. The dad may be
> mad and take it out on the pup. The novelty will wear off and the pup will
> wind
> up ignored in the back yard.
>
>

Not necessarily so. The shelters here take their dogs to the Petsmart on
weekends. Each day has a different shelter. So even if you take them to a
shelter they will probably get sold/adopted at Petsmart. Petsmart here doesn't
sell dogs on it's own. I have adopted a couple through Petsmart over the years
and they have done well and been loved. And I have known several families that
have done the same.
Pam G.


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[email protected]

In a message dated 6/13/2003 5:25:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mummy124@... writes:
> Great ideas and loved the whole post. You are a real Madame. Well except
> sometimes your eyes get a big foggy when it comes to seeing Beagles!!!


Thanks.

Beagles aren't my first breed. I've had crazy Weimaraners for years (about 18
years, I think). Then a viszla (that I absolutely adored) and a pointer. When
they were stolen, I went off the deep end. When I was able to get another
dog, I got a rescue GSD. Then I went out to get a basenji or a French bulldog. I
came home with a beagle 'cause Cameron LOVES them. As much as I'd like a
Frenchie or a basenji (Deb's cracking up, I know!) or maybe a Scottish deerhound or
a standard schnauzer, I'm afraid I'm hooked on this little beagle! <g> He's
just too damned cute! I want a six pack! <G>

I know full-well that they aren't for everybody! But no breed is. You
couldn't pay me to take a lab or golden. But he's so funny and easy. Sandra & Ren
have met him. He probably drove them crazy! <g> But I could look at and play with
him all day! <G> I would NOT have a field beagle though---I KNOW they're
NUTS!

Enjoy YOUR little Kelly! And remember, they are a LONG-lived breed! <G>

~Kelly, looking forward to MANY more years with her SodaPop


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[email protected]

In a message dated 13/06/2003 13:36:47 Pacific Daylight Time,
kbcdlovejo@... writes:


>
> Be responsible about the lives you have brought into this world. They ARE
> your responsibility now.
>
>

exceptionally well put, Kelly. Kind and clear, I may save that one for other
people if you don't mind.
Nancy in bC


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[email protected]

In a message dated 6/13/2003 6:40:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
genant2@... writes:
> Not necessarily so. The shelters here take their dogs to the Petsmart on
> weekends. Each day has a different shelter. So even if you take them to a
> shelter they will probably get sold/adopted at Petsmart. Petsmart here
> doesn't
> sell dogs on it's own. I have adopted a couple through Petsmart over the
> years
> and they have done well and been loved. And I have known several families
> that
> have done the same.

Yes, but as the "breeder", you're taking a chance. I won't take that kind of
chance with something that's my responsibility. You have a better chance of
finding good, responsible, permanent homes if you have the prospective families
come to you.

Shelters, unfortunately, don't screen potential families well either---it's
just not feasible. But ONE person CAN take the time to screen families. And as
the "breeder", it's her responsibility to assure that each puppy has a great,
permanent home.

~Kelly, soap-boxing


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Tracy

--- In [email protected], genant2@a... wrote:
> Not necessarily so. The shelters here take their dogs to the
Petsmart on
> weekends. Each day has a different shelter. So even if you take
them to a
> shelter they will probably get sold/adopted at Petsmart. Petsmart
here doesn't
> sell dogs on it's own. I have adopted a couple through Petsmart
over the years
> and they have done well and been loved. And I have known several
families that
> have done the same.
> Pam G.

I will have to say several years ago, I went to our local Petsmart
{in Durham NC} but because I hadn't had them all vaccinated with all
their shots {I personally don't believe in much more then a rabies
shot} they wouldn't "endorse" me trying to give them away there, and
basicly shunned me away.
Anyway, I would pre-check out how they stand on that type of thing
before taking them there. But they may ok it, if all your pups have
their shots.

Tracy

Tracy

--- In [email protected], kbcdlovejo@a... wrote:

> Yes, but as the "breeder", you're taking a chance. I won't take
that kind of
> chance with something that's my responsibility. You have a better
chance of
> finding good, responsible, permanent homes if you have the
prospective families
> come to you.
>
> Shelters, unfortunately, don't screen potential families well
either---it's
> just not feasible. But ONE person CAN take the time to screen
families. And as
> the "breeder", it's her responsibility to assure that each puppy
has a great,
> permanent home.

I like the idea if going ahead and running the add and making them
wait. But I would check their backgrounds if possible.
NC {at least the RTP area} is known for having some of the nice
places that do research on animals and have people that look
for "free puppies", which is why *I* didn't put an ad in the paper.
Tracy

[email protected]

In a message dated 6/13/2003 7:18:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sablehs@... writes:


> I like the idea if going ahead and running the add and making them
> wait. But I would check their backgrounds if possible.
> NC {at least the RTP area} is known for having some of the nice
> places that do research on animals and have people that look
> for "free puppies", which is why *I* didn't put an ad in the paper.
> Tracy
>

There's also the possibility of use as "pit meat" for fighting dogs. I
wouldn't risk MY babies! Pit meat or research---both unacceptable homes. But the
pain is short-lived, at least. A long life of misery is also a possibility for
those families who aren't truly "ready" for a new family member.

"A dog is for life.
Not just for Christmas." ~~ an old bumper sticker

~Kelly


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[email protected]

I was going to say all the stuff that Pam said.. LOL. And also to clarify a
little bit about my vague statement as to 'staking out" at Petsmart.
Petsmart does allow animal rescue organizations show and adopt thier animals there.
I have volunteered for one organization a few times and we adopted a puppy
from them before. I know the folks personally and I would ask them if I could
bring my puppies along with thier rescued dogs one day. They do have a
screening process,and require puppies to be spayed or neutered ( they give a coupon
for puppies that are too young to be sterilized.. puppies over 4 months are
already sterilized) The adoption fee is $60, so, not a small chunk of change.
Our puppies will be vaccinated and wormed, with vet records. And the rescue
organization would keep the adoption fees.

I am not a breeder. I am an irresponsible dog owner who neglected to get our
dog spayed before she got pregnant. I read our local trade paper every
week, and there are 100s of puppies and dogs listed for free. If someone DOES
want to pay me for a puppy, I have to let them come to my home and screen
them. Personally, I do not want strangers coming to my house to see our puppies.
That is just opening up a whole can of worms that I do not care to deal
with. Of course, I could offer to meet folks at a public place to screen them,
but with 7 puppies( two are already spoken for), that is not going to be
feasible.. I have done this before when buying or selling something from the trade
paper and over half the time, the folks do not show. I don't have the time to
deal with that either.

Petsmart may not be the absolute best way to find homes for the puppies, but
its a much better option than taking them to the pound or taking them to a
flea market. Lots of folks go to Petsmart to find a dog to adopt from a rescue
organization. That's what we did, we kept going back til we found a dog we
liked. The truth is, you never REALLY know what kind of home your puppy is
going to. Anyone can bs you about how they plan on treating a puppy. I plan
on doing the best I can to find good homes for all of our sweet babies.

Teresa


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Tracy

--- In [email protected], grlynbl@a... wrote:
> I was going to say all the stuff that Pam said.. LOL. And also to
clarify a
> little bit about my vague statement as to 'staking out" at
Petsmart.
> Petsmart does allow animal rescue organizations show and adopt
thier animals there.
> I have volunteered for one organization a few times and we adopted
a puppy
> from them before. I know the folks personally and I would ask them
if I could
> bring my puppies along with thier rescued dogs one day.

If I didn't have all mine Teresa... LOL
Just had a new wonderful little dog come up here {well my MIL next
door rescued him when she heard all these cars outside beeping their
horns and he was sitting in the middle of the road. He was COVERED
head to toe and big time in his ears with ticks and fleas} So we
cleaned him up got rid of all the parasites and have been watching
out for an owner.{looking at stores and the paper for lost ads,
because as I said we are for the same reasons very hesitent to put in
an ad reporting a lost dog}
If he has a loving family I will be very glad to hand him over. And
the kids know this upfront. Meanwhile he is getting lots of TLC and
excersise playing with the kids.
BTW I completely understand your position. As I say I had the little
{well big, he was a large full blooded huskey, and the people were
new to the neighborhood} visitor to a dog I had not long before taken
in.
FWIW, I am not judging you,{or Petsmart}. :-) Just wanted you to know
what happened when I showed up without asking them first.
Looks like you already have a much better relationship with them then
I did. :-)
Tracy

[email protected]

In a message dated 6/13/03 7:55:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sablehs@... writes:

> FWIW, I am not judging you,{or Petsmart}. :-) Just wanted you to know
> what happened when I showed up without asking them first.
> Looks like you already have a much better relationship with them then
> I did. :-)
> Tracy
>

Well, I honestly don't know if Petsmart, per se would let me bring my puppies
there to sell ( or give away). I am going to go in on the coat tails of
the rescue group I know.. How I see it is this, these folks get puppies
"dumped" on them all the time. They foot the bill for rescued animals vaccinations
and sterilzation. What I will do is just ask them if I can bring my puppies
along with thier rescued dogs and dopt them out "through" them, and they keep
the fees. I will do all the "work", and the puppies will not have to be
fostered if they do not find homes. Also, puppies are a good attraction to get
folks over to see the dogs up for adoption. Folks may come over to see the
puppies, then end up finding an adult dog that suits them better. So, its a win
win situation. ( in my opinion)

Actually, I am going to exhaust all of my other options before I contact
the rescue group. Family, friends, word of mouth, that sort of thing among
folks I already know.. And THEN if I have any pups left, I'll do the Petsmart
thing.

Teresa


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Mary

From: <kbcdlovejo@...>

<<Enjoy YOUR little Kelly! And remember, they are a LONG-lived breed! <G>>


I know I know. Everytime Sierra tells me that she's not moving away from
home, I shudder. Looks like this little poop is here to stay.

Mary B (and you know when she goes, (the dog) I'll cry like a baby.)

Mary

From: <grlynbl@...>

<<If someone DOES want to pay me for a puppy, I have to let them come to my
home and screen
them. Personally, I do not want strangers coming to my house to see our
puppies.
That is just opening up a whole can of worms that I do not care to deal
with.>>


Just out of curiousity, what is the can of worms??

Mary B

[email protected]

In a message dated 6/13/03 7:28:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kbcdlovejo@... writes:

> There's also the possibility of use as "pit meat" for fighting dogs. I
> wouldn't risk MY babies! Pit meat or research---both unacceptable homes.

If someone were wanting a dog for those reasons would they really respond to
an add and tell you that outright. Or would they respond to an add int he
paper and say that they had a family and had been looking for a puppy for jr.
for a long time and thought yours were so cute and friendly and would make a
nice pet. And that they had lots of property for the puppy to run on and they
would love it and care for it etc etc. If I had another motive I certainly would
not tell the dog breeder that.

I think you can only do a certain amount to make sure the puppy is going to a
good home but in the end, unless you know the people personally, you really
can't be sure.
Pam G.


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[email protected]

In a message dated 6/14/2003 9:30:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
genant2@... writes:

If> someone were wanting a dog for those reasons would they really respond
> to
> an add and tell you that outright. Or would they respond to an add int he
> paper and say that they had a family and had been looking for a puppy for
> jr.
> for a long time and thought yours were so cute and friendly and would make a
>
> nice pet. And that they had lots of property for the puppy to run on and
> they
> would love it and care for it etc etc. If I had another motive I certainly
> would
> not tell the dog breeder that.

Oh, yes---they're quite wiley! But that's one more reason for putting a price
on the puppies---those folks don't want to pay. Also---if you get an address,
you can go by to see the potential home (and fence)---and check up on them
later. A longer "waiting period"---from the time you place the ad to the time
the pups are available will discourage a lot of people.

Someone you would not want in your house, you probably wouldn't want having a
puppy either.

Contracts discourage them too.

People bitch about the hassle of buying from a reputable breeder, but there's
A LOT of time and money that goes into breeding healthy, well-adjusted
puppies and screening the potential homes. We want every puppy's first home to be
his last home! And we go to great efforts to assure that that will happen. We
take the "life-long responsiblity" to heart---I'm available for the LIFE of my
puppies, and I will take a puppy back even when he's 10 years old if the owner
can't keep him for ANY reason.

Just because these are mutts does not lessen the responsibility the "breeder"
has---and that includes the new homes.

~Kelly


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[email protected]

In a message dated 6/14/03 1:36:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mummy124@... writes:

> Just out of curiousity, what is the can of worms??
>
> Mary B
>

We used to list stuff( cars, bikes, etc) for sell in the local trade paper.
We had so much hassle the few times we did it.. We swore we would never place
ads again.. Now we use EBAY to sell our stuff. Here are some real experiences
we had, and some possiblities for scenarios for placing an ad for the puppies.

Dozens of calls from folks who can not read an ad clearly, who figure out
they don't want the kind of puppies we have after we answer the same facts that
were stated in the ad

( example- Ad for 1974 240Z PARTS CAR- No engine, all other parts in working
condition- you tow the car-$200.. Folks ( yes, MORE than one person) call and
ask "Does the car run good? can I drive it home? DUH!!!)

Having to be home at appointed times for folks to NOT show up. You go through
several calls, mostly duds, then someone does actually want to come over.
You spend time giving directions, setting up an appointment. Stay at home and
wait... and wait. And, they never show up. UGHGHGG. Its usually always on a
weekend too. This has happened more times than I can count. Also, going to
meet folks and they don't show up. OR driving an hour to meet them and THEN
they figure out "its not what they wanted" DH did this with a bike that he had
clearly described every detail to the guy. That took out about 4 hours of
time he could have been doing something "good"

"Shady characters" showing up and basically casing the joint to see if there
is anything they can come back for

One guy came to look at a car we had for sell. He walked all around our
house.. Asked to go in the basement ( DH declined). He went in our garage to look
at a car that was NOT for sell. He was just "weird" DH said he got a bad
feeling about him. Might be a coincidence, but that night, the dogs went wild
barking.. obvious warning barks... DH got up to see what the commotion was,
and he saw someone run across the yard to a car parked in the lot of the store
next to us- CREEPY!

Folks being offended if I ask too many questions. If folks are giving you
money for something, they usually feel like its none of your business what they
are going to do with the "thing" Keep in mind, we live in RURAL NC. :-)
.. "Well, hell, you want $50 for this pup, what do you cire what I do with it,
you got your money.. I'm agonna make hit into me a huntin dog, and if he does
good, I got me a few bitches I might stand him to" .. OK.. so I don;t sell
him the dog.. I saved the pup, but I also wasted a lot of my time and pissed
off some redneck hunter.

Folks who do not speak english that I couldn't communicate with anyway,so why
try to "screen" them

(example- someone calls- spanish, spanish, spanish, spanish, Car?... you may
even get enough basic communication to make an appointment.. then when they
get there.. spanish spanish spanish spanish How much?.. and we never actually
sold the car to a non-english speaking person. Don't ask me why, I don't speak
spanish)

Someone who has been "invited" on to my property "getting hurt" and suing me
( a common scam)

(example- Guy comes over to look at our station wagon we had for sell. ( TRUE
STORY). The car burns oil, smokes ( as stated in the ad) He decides he
doesn't want it. .Comes back 3 days later and tells me he had to go to the
hospital for an asthma attack because of the smoke from the car when he cranked it
up!! It didnt even smoke when he cranked it up!!. He hustled me for money to
pay for his ER visit.. Threatened suing.. I didn't buy it though, and refused
to give him $$.. He was just hustling me, but still, NOT a pleasant
experience)

Joy and Skippy ( our other dog) freaking out when strangers come on our
property ( esp now that Joy is a protective Moma)

(One man came to look at a bike that Skippy did NOT like.. I don't know why,
he has never bitten anyone.. and he didnt bite this man either.. but he sure
acted like he was going to He did the "bark and hold" routine.. wouldnt let
the man take a step. We couldnt even pick Skippy up he was so riled up. The
guy just left.. Even when the mailman comes to deliver a package, they act like
they are going to tear them up)

The fact that meeting someone for a short visit and asking them a few
questions will not gaurantee they will give the puppy a good home. There is no way
I can really ascertain what kind of people some are just by taking thier money
and asking them a few questions. And all of the above hassles I stated are
NOT worth the chance that they MIGHT be good dog owners. I'de rather take that
chance without going through all of the trouble of placing an ad. Trouble
that inconveniences and puts MY FAMILY at risk, whom, ultimately, are more
important that the puppies.






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Mary

From: <grlynbl@...>

<< We used to list stuff( cars, bikes, etc) for sell in the local trade
paper.
We had so much hassle the few times we did it.. We swore we would never
place
ads again.. Now we use EBAY to sell our stuff. Here are some real
experiences
we had, and some possiblities for scenarios for placing an ad for the
puppies.>>


Oh my!!!! Not sure if it's you or where you live. LOL!!! I wouldn't sell
anything either if I had even two of those experiences. No wonder you talk
about a can of worms. Can't say I've ever had anything like that happen,
aside from someone not showing up when we sold anything. Good luck.

Mary B

[email protected]

In a message dated 6/14/03 8:50:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mummy124@... writes:

> Oh my!!!! Not sure if it's you or where you live. LOL!!! I wouldn't sell
> anything either if I had even two of those experiences. No wonder you talk
> about a can of worms. Can't say I've ever had anything like that happen,
> aside from someone not showing up when we sold anything. Good luck.
>
> Mary B
>

LOL.. yeah, we've had some doozies.. And all of that stuff didnt happen
like right together, probably over a 5 year period of occasionally putting an ad
in the paper for this or that. But every time we listed something, we would
have these weirdo things happen. I can't really think of one time when a
sale went off without some kind of hitch. But, I have also bought quite a few
things from trade papers and usually was very satisfied. Usually though, I'm
looking for a bargain, and I've been to some pretty "rough" places to find
one. ( the kind of places with them huntin dogs tied to stakes out in the yard)


Teresa


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[email protected]

I know I keep talking about these puppies.. Forgive me.. its just that they
are a very central part of our lives right now and we have spent so much time
and energy with them.. It has been such a learning experience for the kids..
and for me too, sort of a recalling of just how wonderful babies and mommies
are and life in general . The growing up phases, the puppies mirror children
with each phase of infant, toddler, preschool, ( ok, preschool may not be a
correct term for an unschooling group.. lol.. say 3-5 yos) then adolescence,
even teens. Of course it all happens in a matter of weeks and months rather than
years for humans, but its so great to observe the progress of life. That is
one reason we have taken pictures every week, just to compare how much they
have grown and changed. OK. I had a main story to tell, sorry I got off
rambling..

Yesterday Landon took Joy to work with him on the farm. It was the first
extended time the puppies have had away from their Moma. They were all fine,
they didnt really even act like they knew she was gone. After all, they have
plenty of sibs to keep them company. When I brought Landon home, the puppies
were lined up along the walk watching the van intently. You could see the
tentative looks in thier eyes.. Thier ears perked up, thier tails barely wagging..
They were watching so closely to make sure they knew the folks who got out of
the van. I opened the door and they got that OH YAYYY, its you look on
thier face and started to trot towards me. Then, Landon let Joy out of the van
and she ran around the front. As soon as the puppies saw her, they broke into a
full on run towards her.. with thier little bodies just shaking with
excitement. They literally attacked her jumping on her, licking her, welcoming her
home. I swear, I think they had forgotten about her til they saw her.. LOL.
But it was sooo cute to see them so happy to see thier moma. She even laid
down and let them nurse a while. It was such a wonderful sight to see the
puppies greeting their moma with such enthusiasm and excitement. It was so much
just like a child running to his moma after being seperated from her for a
while.

Teresa


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[email protected]

In a message dated 6/14/2003 8:57:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
grlynbl@... writes:
> I'm
looking for a bargain, and I've been to some pretty "rough" places to
> find
one. ( the kind of places with them huntin dogs tied to stakes out in
> the yard)


Teresa >>>>>
Some stake their dogs out so they don't get hit by a car. Hunting dogs are
bred for being quick and for their nose. A good hunting dog puts its nose to
the ground and doesn't look up until they loose the sent.
Many choose to steak rather than to zap with ecollars.

I am on a Brittany list and several people have lost their dogs this way. It
can take up to two years to fully train a good pup and training some things
too soon will break a dog. Some over breed/poor breeders mix two dogs with hyper
tendencies and the owner ends up with a hard to handle dog.

I have two Brits and a Shepherd lab mix. The Brits are not on a run but the
mixed dog is when he goes potty. He runs right across the street to the
neighbors Border Collies and he doesn't look when he crosses the street. (haven't
figured out how to teach that one yet)
On another note I do have other neighbors who chain their Chow mix and
another all day and night year round (even in snow storms that we get here in Maine.
That's the same dog that bit my son. Im guessing that is the kind of staked
dogs you are talking about.

Laura D



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Thank you so very much for this thread! This scene was so beautiful.
Janis
----- Original Message -----
From: grlynbl@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]Our Puppies


I know I keep talking about these puppies.. Forgive me.. its just that they
are a very central part of our lives right now and we have spent so much time
and energy with them.. It has been such a learning experience for the kids..
and for me too, sort of a recalling of just how wonderful babies and mommies
are and life in general . The growing up phases, the puppies mirror children
with each phase of infant, toddler, preschool, ( ok, preschool may not be a
correct term for an unschooling group.. lol.. say 3-5 yos) then adolescence,
even teens. Of course it all happens in a matter of weeks and months rather than
years for humans, but its so great to observe the progress of life. That is
one reason we have taken pictures every week, just to compare how much they
have grown and changed. OK. I had a main story to tell, sorry I got off
rambling..

Yesterday Landon took Joy to work with him on the farm. It was the first
extended time the puppies have had away from their Moma. They were all fine,
they didnt really even act like they knew she was gone. After all, they have
plenty of sibs to keep them company. When I brought Landon home, the puppies
were lined up along the walk watching the van intently. You could see the
tentative looks in thier eyes.. Thier ears perked up, thier tails barely wagging..
They were watching so closely to make sure they knew the folks who got out of
the van. I opened the door and they got that OH YAYYY, its you look on
thier face and started to trot towards me. Then, Landon let Joy out of the van
and she ran around the front. As soon as the puppies saw her, they broke into a
full on run towards her.. with thier little bodies just shaking with
excitement. They literally attacked her jumping on her, licking her, welcoming her
home. I swear, I think they had forgotten about her til they saw her.. LOL.
But it was sooo cute to see them so happy to see thier moma. She even laid
down and let them nurse a while. It was such a wonderful sight to see the
puppies greeting their moma with such enthusiasm and excitement. It was so much
just like a child running to his moma after being seperated from her for a
while.

Teresa


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In a message dated 6/14/03 10:31:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HMSL2@...
writes:

> That's the same dog that bit my son. Im guessing that is the kind of staked
>
> dogs you are talking about.
>
> Laura D
>

Yeah, maybe I shouldnt have said "hunting dogs" Although, I know there are
some very good hunting dog owners, and this is NOT a stereotype, but most
hunters around here do not treat thier dogs all that well. It is very common for
hunters to beat thier dogs with dead rabbits, squirrels or coons to "train"
them to hunt. Dogs are staked out, yes,so they won't run away or get run
over. But, they are also never let off to exercise except when it's huntin time.
They live in thier own feces, sometimes with no shade. THAT is the kind of
folks homes I am talking about are "rough" places.

Teresa


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