need new reading material
Olivia
Anyone out there have any suggestions for deschooling-related reading
material? I feel like I need an unschooling boost into the summer. I always
like to have a book in progress; it helps keep me motivated.
Thanks,
Olivia
material? I feel like I need an unschooling boost into the summer. I always
like to have a book in progress; it helps keep me motivated.
Thanks,
Olivia
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/7/1999 4:00:23 PM, you wrote:
<<Anyone out there have any suggestions for deschooling-related reading
material? I feel like I need an unschooling boost into the summer.>>
Something WAY away from schooling, or unschooling. Don't read about
education. DEschool yourself! Read something distracting and amusing and
light.
As to inspirational unschoolingish videos--Mary Poppins (with Julie Andrews)
and Heidi (with Shirley Temple). Both are about learning without school and
they're about cooler, older places than wherever you are and that's relaxing
too. And the grandfather in Heidi sounds like Arnold Schwartzenegger with
that Austrian accent, which is fun.
Sandra
<<Anyone out there have any suggestions for deschooling-related reading
material? I feel like I need an unschooling boost into the summer.>>
Something WAY away from schooling, or unschooling. Don't read about
education. DEschool yourself! Read something distracting and amusing and
light.
As to inspirational unschoolingish videos--Mary Poppins (with Julie Andrews)
and Heidi (with Shirley Temple). Both are about learning without school and
they're about cooler, older places than wherever you are and that's relaxing
too. And the grandfather in Heidi sounds like Arnold Schwartzenegger with
that Austrian accent, which is fun.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/7/99 6:17:13 PM EST, SandraDodd@... writes:
<< Don't read about
education. DEschool yourself! Read something distracting and amusing and
light. >>
Sandra,
I was going to say that myself! ; >
Teresa
<< Don't read about
education. DEschool yourself! Read something distracting and amusing and
light. >>
Sandra,
I was going to say that myself! ; >
Teresa
Olivia
>Something WAY away from schooling, or unschooling. Don't read aboutLight reading is always fun. I haven't read anything for amusement in a
>education. DEschool yourself! Read something distracting and amusing and
>light.
while. I asked for unschooling/deschooling suggestions because I am trying
to gear myself up to write my first homeschooling letter of intent/proposal
and "curriculum" (if you'll excuse the expression) for the school
superintendent, which is due mid-August. I'm nervous about it. I feel like
I'm a kid again writing a term paper that counts for 80% of my grade! Yikes!
>LOL at Heidi's grandfather sounding like Arnold!
>As to inspirational unschoolingish videos--Mary Poppins (with Julie Andrews)
>and Heidi (with Shirley Temple). Both are about learning without school and
>they're about cooler, older places than wherever you are and that's relaxing
>too. And the grandfather in Heidi sounds like Arnold Schwartzenegger with
>that Austrian accent, which is fun.
>
Olivia
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/99 6:29:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
liv2learn@... writes:
<< I asked for unschooling/deschooling suggestions because I am trying
to gear myself up to write my first homeschooling letter of intent/proposal
and "curriculum" (if you'll excuse the expression) for the school
superintendent, which is due mid-August. I'm nervous about it. I feel like
I'm a kid again writing a term paper that counts for 80% of my grade! Yikes!
I also have to send in a "brief outline" of the intended curriculum for the
current year.
As well as a list of "textbooks" and other basic teaching materials that the
parent intends to use. I really hate it. How old are your children? I can
show you what I did for my children. I kept the "brief outlines" and "lists
of teaching materials". I have them for 1st grade, 2nd grade, 7th grade & 8th
grade.
What I do, is go to the library and get a bunch of those "What your second
grader needs to know" books, etc. I really think it's quite ridiculous that
the school districts think that all 8 y.o.'s need to know the same thing, but
I tell them what they want to hear. You don't have to stick to your
curriculum, I just basically "make it look good".
Mary Ellen.
liv2learn@... writes:
<< I asked for unschooling/deschooling suggestions because I am trying
to gear myself up to write my first homeschooling letter of intent/proposal
and "curriculum" (if you'll excuse the expression) for the school
superintendent, which is due mid-August. I'm nervous about it. I feel like
I'm a kid again writing a term paper that counts for 80% of my grade! Yikes!
>>I have been where you are and it is NOT fun.
I also have to send in a "brief outline" of the intended curriculum for the
current year.
As well as a list of "textbooks" and other basic teaching materials that the
parent intends to use. I really hate it. How old are your children? I can
show you what I did for my children. I kept the "brief outlines" and "lists
of teaching materials". I have them for 1st grade, 2nd grade, 7th grade & 8th
grade.
What I do, is go to the library and get a bunch of those "What your second
grader needs to know" books, etc. I really think it's quite ridiculous that
the school districts think that all 8 y.o.'s need to know the same thing, but
I tell them what they want to hear. You don't have to stick to your
curriculum, I just basically "make it look good".
Mary Ellen.
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/99 8:17:01 AM PST, Kitchen38@... writes:
<<
I have been where you are and it is NOT fun.
I also have to send in a "brief outline" of the intended curriculum for the
current year.
As well as a list of "textbooks" and other basic teaching materials that the
parent intends to use. I really hate it. How old are your children? I can
show you what I did for my children. I kept the "brief outlines" and "lists
of teaching materials". I have them for 1st grade, 2nd grade, 7th grade &
8th
grade.
What I do, is go to the library and get a bunch of those "What your second
grader needs to know" books, etc. I really think it's quite ridiculous that
the school districts think that all 8 y.o.'s need to know the same thing,
but
I tell them what they want to hear. You don't have to stick to your
curriculum, I just basically "make it look good".
Mary Ellen.
people put one together.
History: We will learn about several different time periods this year,
utilizing a variety of biographies, computer games, internet sources and
other information. Maps, timelines and field trips will round out our
history pursuits.
Math: We will be continuing or mathematical education using lots of
manipulative based elements. WE fully anticipate learning more mathematical
concepts, at age and grade level appropriate pace.
Science: Out science will be done by studying the lives of some of the great
scientists, delving into their theories and processes. We will have lots of
hands-on science experiments through-out the school year.
Now - this shows that you intend to cover all the basics, yet is not
specific. In MOST cases, the state does not require specifics - they just
want to see what you will be covering. There is nothing in the above that
clashes with unschooling. Presumably - some of you WILL read books, that
will include mention of science and history. Presumably some one in the
family WILL watch a history show or two, play a game, such as Oregon Trails,
etc...
Be general in your descriptions, if they ask for more - circle the wagons and
try to tighen up your definitions a bit...
Mary
<<
I have been where you are and it is NOT fun.
I also have to send in a "brief outline" of the intended curriculum for the
current year.
As well as a list of "textbooks" and other basic teaching materials that the
parent intends to use. I really hate it. How old are your children? I can
show you what I did for my children. I kept the "brief outlines" and "lists
of teaching materials". I have them for 1st grade, 2nd grade, 7th grade &
8th
grade.
What I do, is go to the library and get a bunch of those "What your second
grader needs to know" books, etc. I really think it's quite ridiculous that
the school districts think that all 8 y.o.'s need to know the same thing,
but
I tell them what they want to hear. You don't have to stick to your
curriculum, I just basically "make it look good".
Mary Ellen.
>>While I don't have to have a "curriculum plan" in WA, I have helped MANY
people put one together.
History: We will learn about several different time periods this year,
utilizing a variety of biographies, computer games, internet sources and
other information. Maps, timelines and field trips will round out our
history pursuits.
Math: We will be continuing or mathematical education using lots of
manipulative based elements. WE fully anticipate learning more mathematical
concepts, at age and grade level appropriate pace.
Science: Out science will be done by studying the lives of some of the great
scientists, delving into their theories and processes. We will have lots of
hands-on science experiments through-out the school year.
Now - this shows that you intend to cover all the basics, yet is not
specific. In MOST cases, the state does not require specifics - they just
want to see what you will be covering. There is nothing in the above that
clashes with unschooling. Presumably - some of you WILL read books, that
will include mention of science and history. Presumably some one in the
family WILL watch a history show or two, play a game, such as Oregon Trails,
etc...
Be general in your descriptions, if they ask for more - circle the wagons and
try to tighen up your definitions a bit...
Mary
Diana Asberry
----Original Message Follows----
write my first homeschooling letter of intent/proposal
and "curriculum" (if you'll excuse the expression) for the school
superintendent, which is due mid-August. I'm nervous about it. I
the school districts think that all 8 y.o.'s need to know the same thing,
but
I tell them what they want to hear. You don't have to stick to your
curriculum, I just basically "make it look good".
Mary Ellen.
When writing your outline remember to include the most important thing: "
SUBJECT MATTER & MATERIALS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE" that way, they can't
"hold" you to it...
Also, I have the "What your __nth Grader Needs to Know" by E.D. Hirsch.
It's the only thing close to a "curriculum" I use. I like it because
everything's there; it's not a list, then you have to go back to the library
to get the stories that the list recommends...
It's done as a core knowledge series to keep check on schools so that their
teaching the same things--when a kid moves from another school, there's so
much inconsistancy that what one school teachs in 3rd grade may not even be
addressed until the 4th grade at another school...
my 2 cents...
Diana A
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write my first homeschooling letter of intent/proposal
and "curriculum" (if you'll excuse the expression) for the school
superintendent, which is due mid-August. I'm nervous about it. I
>>What I do, is go to the library and get a bunch of those "What your secondgrader needs to know" books, etc. I really think it's quite ridiculous that
the school districts think that all 8 y.o.'s need to know the same thing,
but
I tell them what they want to hear. You don't have to stick to your
curriculum, I just basically "make it look good".
Mary Ellen.
When writing your outline remember to include the most important thing: "
SUBJECT MATTER & MATERIALS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE" that way, they can't
"hold" you to it...
Also, I have the "What your __nth Grader Needs to Know" by E.D. Hirsch.
It's the only thing close to a "curriculum" I use. I like it because
everything's there; it's not a list, then you have to go back to the library
to get the stories that the list recommends...
It's done as a core knowledge series to keep check on schools so that their
teaching the same things--when a kid moves from another school, there's so
much inconsistancy that what one school teachs in 3rd grade may not even be
addressed until the 4th grade at another school...
my 2 cents...
Diana A
_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Olivia
Thanks Mary for the outline! This is a great start.
Olivia
Olivia
>While I don't have to have a "curriculum plan" in WA, I have helped MANY
>people put one together.
>
>History: We will learn about several different time periods this year,
>utilizing a variety of biographies, computer games, internet sources and
>other information. Maps, timelines and field trips will round out our
>history pursuits.
>
>Math: We will be continuing or mathematical education using lots of
>manipulative based elements. WE fully anticipate learning more mathematical
>concepts, at age and grade level appropriate pace.
>
>Science: Out science will be done by studying the lives of some of the great
>scientists, delving into their theories and processes. We will have lots of
>hands-on science experiments through-out the school year.
>
>Now - this shows that you intend to cover all the basics, yet is not
>specific. In MOST cases, the state does not require specifics - they just
>want to see what you will be covering. There is nothing in the above that
>clashes with unschooling. Presumably - some of you WILL read books, that
>will include mention of science and history. Presumably some one in the
>family WILL watch a history show or two, play a game, such as Oregon Trails,
>etc...
>
>Be general in your descriptions, if they ask for more - circle the wagons and
>try to tighen up your definitions a bit...
>
>Mary
>
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Olivia
>VERY good suggestion Diana!
>When writing your outline remember to include the most important thing: "
>SUBJECT MATTER & MATERIALS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE" that way, they can't
>"hold" you to it...
>
Olivia
claudia partick
wow Mary you are a wealth of knowledge
I like this and it sounds so schooly (if that is a word which I think it is
not)
Claudia
-----Original Message-----
From: LammiesX6@... <LammiesX6@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] need new reading material
I like this and it sounds so schooly (if that is a word which I think it is
not)
Claudia
-----Original Message-----
From: LammiesX6@... <LammiesX6@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] need new reading material
>From: LammiesX6@...the
>
>In a message dated 6/8/99 8:17:01 AM PST, Kitchen38@... writes:
>
><<
> I have been where you are and it is NOT fun.
> I also have to send in a "brief outline" of the intended curriculum for
> current year.the
> As well as a list of "textbooks" and other basic teaching materials that
> parent intends to use. I really hate it. How old are your children? I can"lists
> show you what I did for my children. I kept the "brief outlines" and
> of teaching materials". I have them for 1st grade, 2nd grade, 7th grade &that
>8th
> grade.
> What I do, is go to the library and get a bunch of those "What your second
> grader needs to know" books, etc. I really think it's quite ridiculous
> the school districts think that all 8 y.o.'s need to know the same thing,mathematical
>but
> I tell them what they want to hear. You don't have to stick to your
> curriculum, I just basically "make it look good".
> Mary Ellen.
> >>
>
>While I don't have to have a "curriculum plan" in WA, I have helped MANY
>people put one together.
>
>History: We will learn about several different time periods this year,
>utilizing a variety of biographies, computer games, internet sources and
>other information. Maps, timelines and field trips will round out our
>history pursuits.
>
>Math: We will be continuing or mathematical education using lots of
>manipulative based elements. WE fully anticipate learning more
>concepts, at age and grade level appropriate pace.great
>
>Science: Out science will be done by studying the lives of some of the
>scientists, delving into their theories and processes. We will have lotsof
>hands-on science experiments through-out the school year.Trails,
>
>Now - this shows that you intend to cover all the basics, yet is not
>specific. In MOST cases, the state does not require specifics - they just
>want to see what you will be covering. There is nothing in the above that
>clashes with unschooling. Presumably - some of you WILL read books, that
>will include mention of science and history. Presumably some one in the
>family WILL watch a history show or two, play a game, such as Oregon
>etc...and
>
>Be general in your descriptions, if they ask for more - circle the wagons
>try to tighen up your definitions a bit...
>
>Mary
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>What do lizards and rock music have in common?
>http://www.onelist.com
>They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today!
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Check it out!
>http://www.unschooling.com
>
>
Lois Hoover
>From: Olivia <liv2learn@...>Oliva,
>
>Thanks Mary for the outline! This is a great start.
>
>Olivia
>
>
If you need to write up objectives there are many sites on line that will
show you how to do this. Here's a couple I found from PA homeschoolers
pamphlet.
http://www.ed.gov/pubs/parent/parent This site is run by the Fed. gov.
with descriptions of what students should know at what grade. For
elementary and middle school students
http://www.aspensys.com/eric/resources/parent lots of online articles and
info on writing objectives. Also lots of other links
http://cas.psu.edu/pde has objective info on math and reading
>
Olivia
Lois:
I tried the links you provided but they don't seem to connect. What's up?
Olivia
I tried the links you provided but they don't seem to connect. What's up?
Olivia
>
>http://www.ed.gov/pubs/parent/parent This site is run by the Fed. gov.
>with descriptions of what students should know at what grade. For
>elementary and middle school students
>
>http://www.aspensys.com/eric/resources/parent lots of online articles and
>info on writing objectives. Also lots of other links
>
>http://cas.psu.edu/pde has objective info on math and reading
>
>
>>
>
>
>
>
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At 07:36 PM 6/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
Looks like they've changed the sites since I marked them. I went back to
the reference where I got these and yes, I'd gotten them right.
I did get to PSU, buy going to http://www.psu.edu/ from there you can type
in elementary or secondary education and will be transfered to search
results, you should be able to find something there, but I have to get
dinner on now. I'll keep working on the other links and see if I can find
where they have been moved to.
Lois
>From: Olivia <liv2learn@...>Sorry,
>
>
>Lois:
>
>I tried the links you provided but they don't seem to connect. What's up?
>
>Olivia
>
Looks like they've changed the sites since I marked them. I went back to
the reference where I got these and yes, I'd gotten them right.
I did get to PSU, buy going to http://www.psu.edu/ from there you can type
in elementary or secondary education and will be transfered to search
results, you should be able to find something there, but I have to get
dinner on now. I'll keep working on the other links and see if I can find
where they have been moved to.
Lois
>
>>
Lois Hoover
>Okay this bugged me so dinner had to wait. Here's two of the sites that
>I tried the links you provided but they don't seem to connect. What's up?
>
>Olivia
>
i've been able to locate. give these a try.
>http://ed.gov/pubs/edpubs.html This site is run by the Fed. gov.
>>
>>with descriptions of what students should know at what grade. Forhttp://pde.psu.edu has objective info on math and reading
>>elementary and middle school students
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
[email protected]
In a message dated 06/08/1999 12:17:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kitchen38@... writes:
<< I have been where you are and it is NOT fun.
I also have to send in a "brief outline" of the intended curriculum for the
current year.
As well as a list of "textbooks" and other basic teaching materials that the
parent intends to use. I really hate it. How old are your children? I can
show you what I did for my children. I kept the "brief outlines" and "lists
of teaching materials". I have them for 1st grade, 2nd grade, 7th grade &
8th
grade.
What I do, is go to the library and get a bunch of those "What your second
grader needs to know" books, etc. I really think it's quite ridiculous that
the school districts think that all 8 y.o.'s need to know the same thing,
but
I tell them what they want to hear. You don't have to stick to your
curriculum, I just basically "make it look good".
children at home, not asking permission!!!), we have to submit our
_intendend_ curriculum.The operative word is intednded--things change, and
life presents us with all kinds of opportunities and challenges. Some folks
just copy from World Bk Encyclopedia's typical Course of Study K-12. I used
to sweat about it until i realized that they really don't care--so i write a
brief narrative statement about continuing our explorations in xyz, using
educationally and developmentally appropriate materials, etc. I don't expect
problems and have never had them!!
DEbra
Kitchen38@... writes:
<< I have been where you are and it is NOT fun.
I also have to send in a "brief outline" of the intended curriculum for the
current year.
As well as a list of "textbooks" and other basic teaching materials that the
parent intends to use. I really hate it. How old are your children? I can
show you what I did for my children. I kept the "brief outlines" and "lists
of teaching materials". I have them for 1st grade, 2nd grade, 7th grade &
8th
grade.
What I do, is go to the library and get a bunch of those "What your second
grader needs to know" books, etc. I really think it's quite ridiculous that
the school districts think that all 8 y.o.'s need to know the same thing,
but
I tell them what they want to hear. You don't have to stick to your
curriculum, I just basically "make it look good".
>>In Ohio, when we notify(we are notifying of our intent to educate our
children at home, not asking permission!!!), we have to submit our
_intendend_ curriculum.The operative word is intednded--things change, and
life presents us with all kinds of opportunities and challenges. Some folks
just copy from World Bk Encyclopedia's typical Course of Study K-12. I used
to sweat about it until i realized that they really don't care--so i write a
brief narrative statement about continuing our explorations in xyz, using
educationally and developmentally appropriate materials, etc. I don't expect
problems and have never had them!!
DEbra
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/99 2:34:10 PM EST, diasberry@... writes:
<< Also, I have the "What your __nth Grader Needs to Know" by E.D. Hirsc >>
Diana,
I love those books, I use them about three times a year because they have
neat information and is so concise and easy, the boys love them
Teresa, ; >
<< Also, I have the "What your __nth Grader Needs to Know" by E.D. Hirsc >>
Diana,
I love those books, I use them about three times a year because they have
neat information and is so concise and easy, the boys love them
Teresa, ; >
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/99 7:31:07 PM EST, lhoover@... writes:
<< give these a try.
Teresa.
<< give these a try.
> >>thanks, it worked!
Teresa.
Olivia
Thanks!
>I did get to PSU, buy going to http://www.psu.edu/ from there you can type
>in elementary or secondary education and will be transfered to search
>results, you should be able to find something there, but I have to get
>dinner on now. I'll keep working on the other links and see if I can find
>where they have been moved to.
>
>Lois
>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
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>Okay this bugged me so dinner had to wait. Here's two of the sites thatThanks so much. Apologize to your starving family for me! LOL
>i've been able to locate. give these a try.
>>
Olivia
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/99 7:27:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Buresmom@...
writes:
<< Some folks
just copy from World Bk Encyclopedia's typical Course of Study K-12. >>
Cool, Debra. Where do you get this? Do they have it at the library? How long
have you been homeschooling/unschooling?
Mary Ellen in Ohio.
writes:
<< Some folks
just copy from World Bk Encyclopedia's typical Course of Study K-12. >>
Cool, Debra. Where do you get this? Do they have it at the library? How long
have you been homeschooling/unschooling?
Mary Ellen in Ohio.
[email protected]
Mary Ellen,
I'm here and I have the info so I'm jumping in. The World Book home
page is at
http://www.worldbook.com/
Go to "parent and teachers" then to "parent resource center" and then
"typical course of study"
You'll find all the levels listed.
Mary in FL
I'm here and I have the info so I'm jumping in. The World Book home
page is at
http://www.worldbook.com/
Go to "parent and teachers" then to "parent resource center" and then
"typical course of study"
You'll find all the levels listed.
Mary in FL
Olivia
Thanks for that handy site!
Olivia
Olivia
>http://www.worldbook.com/
>
>Go to "parent and teachers" then to "parent resource center" and then
>"typical course of study"
>You'll find all the levels listed.
>
>Mary in FL
=^..^=
><< Some folksI've seen World Book's Typical Course of Study advertised in catalogs for
> just copy from World Bk Encyclopedia's typical Course of Study K-12. >>
>
>Cool, Debra. Where do you get this? Do they have it at the library? How long
>have you been homeschooling/unschooling?
>Mary Ellen in Ohio.
$1, and it's available free at their site:
http://www.worldbook.com/ptrc/html/curr.htm
Thea
metta@...
[email protected]
In a message dated 06/09/1999 12:24:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kitchen38@... writes:
<<
<< Some folks
just copy from World Bk Encyclopedia's typical Course of Study K-12. >>
Cool, Debra. Where do you get this? Do they have it at the library? How long
have you been homeschooling/unschooling? >>
World Book Encyclopedia 800-621-8202. As for Typical Course of Study k-12.
I didn't have to pay for it at all--others to whom I've spoken have paid for
postage.
This will be our 6th yr. We took our oldest dd out of kdgn after winter
break(she's 11).
We've always unschooled. My older dd want more structure now, so we got the
Key Curriculum Press math books this year which she does from time to time.
She just finished one of the Decimals book (I call it her Decibels book--loud
math!!!).
Debra
Kitchen38@... writes:
<<
<< Some folks
just copy from World Bk Encyclopedia's typical Course of Study K-12. >>
Cool, Debra. Where do you get this? Do they have it at the library? How long
have you been homeschooling/unschooling? >>
World Book Encyclopedia 800-621-8202. As for Typical Course of Study k-12.
I didn't have to pay for it at all--others to whom I've spoken have paid for
postage.
This will be our 6th yr. We took our oldest dd out of kdgn after winter
break(she's 11).
We've always unschooled. My older dd want more structure now, so we got the
Key Curriculum Press math books this year which she does from time to time.
She just finished one of the Decimals book (I call it her Decibels book--loud
math!!!).
Debra