making kids taste things
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<< Another table rule of ours: taste everything on your plate. If
there's something you don't like, you don't have to eat it. But at
least taste it. I've learned what's "edible" around here, and what
isn't, but trying things is a good habit, IMO. If it's yucky, I have
no problem with them saying so. >>
I hate that rule, personally.
I had some meals ruined, as a kid, by being made to taste something that
neither looked good nor smelled good, and after that the rest of the food tasted
like the yucky thing, and all I could think of was wishing I could have eaten
in peace.
Peace is pretty important to digestion. Peace and the feeling that you're
eating in safety.
Why put something on the plate they don't want?
That's one of those entrapment situations, I think.
<<If it's yucky, >>
Food can be yucky at 10 paces, and if it IS, it seems wise NOT to put it in
one's mouth.
You wouldn't want them tasting every alcoholic drink at the bar, or trying
every drug that comes along, would you?
The senses people use to help decide what to taste are sight and smell. If
those two are not indicating that the food is appealing, shouldn't kids NOT eat
it? But there's also a trust and experience element. If something looks
freakish (like an artichoke) they might not naturally want to eat it, but if they
see others eating it and having fun, they might want to try it, one of those
times. Maybe not the first two or three times.
Are there foods you never make because you or your husband don't like them?
Be honest.
If your kids made you a plate of those things would you be willing to taste
each one?
If so, Why?
If not, why make them taste foods?
It plays against their instinct.
Sandra
there's something you don't like, you don't have to eat it. But at
least taste it. I've learned what's "edible" around here, and what
isn't, but trying things is a good habit, IMO. If it's yucky, I have
no problem with them saying so. >>
I hate that rule, personally.
I had some meals ruined, as a kid, by being made to taste something that
neither looked good nor smelled good, and after that the rest of the food tasted
like the yucky thing, and all I could think of was wishing I could have eaten
in peace.
Peace is pretty important to digestion. Peace and the feeling that you're
eating in safety.
Why put something on the plate they don't want?
That's one of those entrapment situations, I think.
<<If it's yucky, >>
Food can be yucky at 10 paces, and if it IS, it seems wise NOT to put it in
one's mouth.
You wouldn't want them tasting every alcoholic drink at the bar, or trying
every drug that comes along, would you?
The senses people use to help decide what to taste are sight and smell. If
those two are not indicating that the food is appealing, shouldn't kids NOT eat
it? But there's also a trust and experience element. If something looks
freakish (like an artichoke) they might not naturally want to eat it, but if they
see others eating it and having fun, they might want to try it, one of those
times. Maybe not the first two or three times.
Are there foods you never make because you or your husband don't like them?
Be honest.
If your kids made you a plate of those things would you be willing to taste
each one?
If so, Why?
If not, why make them taste foods?
It plays against their instinct.
Sandra
Nora or Devereaux Cannon
We taste in the kitchen - either as meal prep is going on or as a
part of general fun. I agree with both the idea that kids need
to be encouraged to try new stuff (though not forced) and the
need to keep meal time for family joy. Kitchen tasting makes it
easy to offer "cook's privilege" to a kid (tasting the in process
stuff) and to avoid feeling rejected/adult peer pressure to
enforce rules if "no thanks" is the answer.
part of general fun. I agree with both the idea that kids need
to be encouraged to try new stuff (though not forced) and the
need to keep meal time for family joy. Kitchen tasting makes it
easy to offer "cook's privilege" to a kid (tasting the in process
stuff) and to avoid feeling rejected/adult peer pressure to
enforce rules if "no thanks" is the answer.
----- Original Message -----
From: <SandraDodd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 8:14 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] making kids taste things
|
|
| << Another table rule of ours: taste everything on your plate.
If
|
| there's something you don't like, you don't have to eat it. But
at
|
| least taste it. I've learned what's "edible" around here, and
what
|
| isn't, but trying things is a good habit, IMO. If it's yucky, I
have
|
| no problem with them saying so. >>
|
| I hate that rule, personally.
| I had some meals ruined, as a kid, by being made to taste
something that
| neither looked good nor smelled good, and after that the rest
of the food tasted
| like the yucky thing, and all I could think of was wishing I
could have eaten
| in peace.
|
| Peace is pretty important to digestion. Peace and the feeling
that you're
| eating in safety.
| Why put something on the plate they don't want?
|
| That's one of those entrapment situations, I think.
|
| <<If it's yucky, >>
|
| Food can be yucky at 10 paces, and if it IS, it seems wise NOT
to put it in
| one's mouth.
| You wouldn't want them tasting every alcoholic drink at the
bar, or trying
| every drug that comes along, would you?
|
| The senses people use to help decide what to taste are sight
and smell. If
| those two are not indicating that the food is appealing,
shouldn't kids NOT eat
| it? But there's also a trust and experience element. If
something looks
| freakish (like an artichoke) they might not naturally want to
eat it, but if they
| see others eating it and having fun, they might want to try it,
one of those
| times. Maybe not the first two or three times.
|
| Are there foods you never make because you or your husband
don't like them?
| Be honest.
| If your kids made you a plate of those things would you be
willing to taste
| each one?
| If so, Why?
| If not, why make them taste foods?
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| It plays against their instinct.
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| Sandra
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--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
But sometimes, maybe at gramma's or at a friend's house, foods come
along that they've never encountered. It's a matter of helping them
see that one taste isn't the end of the world. If they like it,
terrific! If not, they don't have to finish it.
<snip>
You wouldn't want them tasting every alcoholic drink at the bar, or
trying
food. And my kids know the difference.
something were being dished up that absolutely didn't appeal.
Or, "Just a little bit so I can see if I like it." something like
that.
But there's also a trust and experience element. If something looks
But I don't make a plate of my kids' worst foods and make them taste
each one. Let's say there's a plate with a pork chop, a baked potato,
some peas and carrots, a spoonful of macaroni salad, and a peach half
on lettuce. Katie hasn't ever seen this macaroni salad before.
Everything else on there, she knows and enjoys to eat. She doesn't
think the macaroni looks good, but how will she know, if she doesn't
taste it? It isn't going to hurt her to take one bite, and she may
just love it.
to me. But every five years or so, I take a bite if there is some at
Thanksgiving.
(didn't used to like broccoli, but do now) In order to see if, this
time, I can figure out why mince meat pie tastes good to some people.
Like "What do they see in this?"
encountered them before. I want them to not be afraid of different
tastes and textures.
HeidiC
>have
>
> << Another table rule of ours: taste everything on your plate. If
>
> there's something you don't like, you don't have to eat it. But at
>
> least taste it. I've learned what's "edible" around here, and what
>
> isn't, but trying things is a good habit, IMO. If it's yucky, I
>that
> no problem with them saying so. >>
>
> I hate that rule, personally.
> I had some meals ruined, as a kid, by being made to taste something
> neither looked good nor smelled good, and after that the rest ofthe food tasted
> like the yucky thing, and all I could think of was wishing I couldhave eaten
> in peace.you're
>
> Peace is pretty important to digestion. Peace and the feeling that
> eating in safety.I don't put foods on my kids' plates that I know they do not like.
> Why put something on the plate they don't want?
But sometimes, maybe at gramma's or at a friend's house, foods come
along that they've never encountered. It's a matter of helping them
see that one taste isn't the end of the world. If they like it,
terrific! If not, they don't have to finish it.
<snip>
You wouldn't want them tasting every alcoholic drink at the bar, or
trying
> every drug that comes along, would you?different scenario entirely. Alcoholic beverages and drugs aren't
food. And my kids know the difference.
>smell. If
> The senses people use to help decide what to taste are sight and
> those two are not indicating that the food is appealing, shouldn'tkids NOT eat
> it?I would accept one of my kids saying "Please, none of that" if
something were being dished up that absolutely didn't appeal.
Or, "Just a little bit so I can see if I like it." something like
that.
But there's also a trust and experience element. If something looks
> freakish (like an artichoke) they might not naturally want to eatit, but if they
> see others eating it and having fun, they might want to try it, oneof those
> times. Maybe not the first two or three times.like them?
>
> Are there foods you never make because you or your husband don't
> Be honest.There are foods I never make because my KIDS don't like them.
But I don't make a plate of my kids' worst foods and make them taste
each one. Let's say there's a plate with a pork chop, a baked potato,
some peas and carrots, a spoonful of macaroni salad, and a peach half
on lettuce. Katie hasn't ever seen this macaroni salad before.
Everything else on there, she knows and enjoys to eat. She doesn't
think the macaroni looks good, but how will she know, if she doesn't
taste it? It isn't going to hurt her to take one bite, and she may
just love it.
> If your kids made you a plate of those things would you be willingto taste
> each one?Actually, I would. I do. I hate mince meat pie. It tastes just awful
to me. But every five years or so, I take a bite if there is some at
Thanksgiving.
> If so, Why?In order to see if my palate has matured enough for me to like it.
(didn't used to like broccoli, but do now) In order to see if, this
time, I can figure out why mince meat pie tastes good to some people.
Like "What do they see in this?"
> If not, why make them taste foods?I don't want them turning things down, just because they've never
encountered them before. I want them to not be afraid of different
tastes and textures.
HeidiC
Heidi
--- In [email protected], "Nora or Devereaux Cannon"
<dcannon@n...> wrote:
Just FYI, the one bite rule has never been a power struggle. Having
them taste something new that one bite's worth, hasn't ever lessened
the family joyful atmosphere at dinner.
But I do like the idea of tasting and testing in the kitchen. That
way, they'll know what's good or what isn't, before it comes to the
table!
HeidiC
<dcannon@n...> wrote:
> We taste in the kitchen - either as meal prep is going on or as agood idea!
> part of general fun. I agree with both the idea that kids need
> to be encouraged to try new stuff (though not forced) and the
> need to keep meal time for family joy. Kitchen tasting makes it
> easy to offer "cook's privilege" to a kid (tasting the in process
> stuff) and to avoid feeling rejected/adult peer pressure to
> enforce rules if "no thanks" is the answer.
Just FYI, the one bite rule has never been a power struggle. Having
them taste something new that one bite's worth, hasn't ever lessened
the family joyful atmosphere at dinner.
But I do like the idea of tasting and testing in the kitchen. That
way, they'll know what's good or what isn't, before it comes to the
table!
HeidiC
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/03 8:23:29 PM, bunsofaluminum60@... writes:
<< different scenario entirely. Alcoholic beverages and drugs aren't
food. And my kids know the difference. >>
My point is that parents should realize it's possible to choose not to want
something for reasons other than "I tried it and I didn't like it." Maybe
anyone should have the right to say no, that they would rather not even try
something.
<<She doesn't
think the macaroni looks good, but how will she know, if she doesn't
taste it? It isn't going to hurt her to take one bite, and she may
just love it. >>
I stand by my experience with having been forced to eat food that made me
hate that food AND made me not like my mom much either.
If others are eating macaroni and she sees them enjoying it, she might try
because she wants to.
And what if she never ever eats macaroni salad? There are six billion
humans. MOST have never eaten macaroni salad.
Sandra
<< different scenario entirely. Alcoholic beverages and drugs aren't
food. And my kids know the difference. >>
My point is that parents should realize it's possible to choose not to want
something for reasons other than "I tried it and I didn't like it." Maybe
anyone should have the right to say no, that they would rather not even try
something.
<<She doesn't
think the macaroni looks good, but how will she know, if she doesn't
taste it? It isn't going to hurt her to take one bite, and she may
just love it. >>
I stand by my experience with having been forced to eat food that made me
hate that food AND made me not like my mom much either.
If others are eating macaroni and she sees them enjoying it, she might try
because she wants to.
And what if she never ever eats macaroni salad? There are six billion
humans. MOST have never eaten macaroni salad.
Sandra
Heidi
--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
I should sleep well tonight, because my brain is GONE from the
interaction here! good stuff...love it!
thinking they would like something, then trying it, and liking it.
The first thing that came to mind was avocado. Katie didn't like the
looks of avocado, but one day when I was having a half, I offered her
a bit on a cracker. She loves avocado, now.
OTOH, Robby doesn't like avocado. He didn't like the looks of it, and
when he tasted it (I didn't force him. I asked if he'd like to see
for himself whether it was any good or not) he still didn't like it.
But why didn't I "make" him taste the avocado?
I'm being inconsistent and it's ticking me off.
Time to rest the ole grey matter awhile.
:)
HeidiC
>aren't
> In a message dated 6/8/03 8:23:29 PM, bunsofaluminum60@h... writes:
>
> << different scenario entirely. Alcoholic beverages and drugs
>to want
> food. And my kids know the difference. >>
>
> My point is that parents should realize it's possible to choose not
> something for reasons other than "I tried it and I didn't likeit." Maybe
> anyone should have the right to say no, that they would rather noteven try
> something.Okay, point taken.
I should sleep well tonight, because my brain is GONE from the
interaction here! good stuff...love it!
>doesn't
> <<She doesn't
>
> think the macaroni looks good, but how will she know, if she
>made me
> taste it? It isn't going to hurt her to take one bite, and she may
>
> just love it. >>
>
> I stand by my experience with having been forced to eat food that
> hate that food AND made me not like my mom much either.might try
>
> If others are eating macaroni and she sees them enjoying it, she
> because she wants to.You win. I was trying to think of a time when my kids started out not
thinking they would like something, then trying it, and liking it.
The first thing that came to mind was avocado. Katie didn't like the
looks of avocado, but one day when I was having a half, I offered her
a bit on a cracker. She loves avocado, now.
OTOH, Robby doesn't like avocado. He didn't like the looks of it, and
when he tasted it (I didn't force him. I asked if he'd like to see
for himself whether it was any good or not) he still didn't like it.
But why didn't I "make" him taste the avocado?
I'm being inconsistent and it's ticking me off.
Time to rest the ole grey matter awhile.
:)
HeidiC
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/03 9:07:26 PM, bunsofaluminum60@... writes:
<< OTOH, Robby doesn't like avocado. He didn't like the looks of it, and
when he tasted it (I didn't force him. I asked if he'd like to see
for himself whether it was any good or not) he still didn't like it.
But why didn't I "make" him taste the avocado?
with a PhD. LOVES to go for New Mexican food with me when he comes out here
to do special work for Los Alamos Labs. He knows more about more things than I
ever will.
He won't eat guacamole. The restaurant we go to has great guacamole they
make tableside, fresh, but nope. He says this terrible thing about even the best
of guacamole:
Tastes like smegma.
So rather than EVER have him repeat that to me while I'm trying to eat, I
totally stopped ever mentioning it even a little, and if he gets a little
guacamole as part of what he's ordered, I gently remove it from his plate and eat it
smilingly.
Keith my husband hates peas Regular little green peas. Will not have one in
his mouth.
My dad was the same with black-eyed peas. Hated the smell, hated the
texture, said they taste like dirt.
Maybe in honor of those serious detestations, I've reminded kids once in a
while they might want to try something since it's been a while, but never
pressed after they said "Maybe next time."
Sandra
<< OTOH, Robby doesn't like avocado. He didn't like the looks of it, and
when he tasted it (I didn't force him. I asked if he'd like to see
for himself whether it was any good or not) he still didn't like it.
But why didn't I "make" him taste the avocado?
>>I have a friend from Canada. Very sophisticated world traveller kind of guy
with a PhD. LOVES to go for New Mexican food with me when he comes out here
to do special work for Los Alamos Labs. He knows more about more things than I
ever will.
He won't eat guacamole. The restaurant we go to has great guacamole they
make tableside, fresh, but nope. He says this terrible thing about even the best
of guacamole:
Tastes like smegma.
So rather than EVER have him repeat that to me while I'm trying to eat, I
totally stopped ever mentioning it even a little, and if he gets a little
guacamole as part of what he's ordered, I gently remove it from his plate and eat it
smilingly.
Keith my husband hates peas Regular little green peas. Will not have one in
his mouth.
My dad was the same with black-eyed peas. Hated the smell, hated the
texture, said they taste like dirt.
Maybe in honor of those serious detestations, I've reminded kids once in a
while they might want to try something since it's been a while, but never
pressed after they said "Maybe next time."
Sandra
Mary
From: <SandraDodd@...>
<<I stand by my experience with having been forced to eat food that made me
hate that food AND made me not like my mom much either.
If others are eating macaroni and she sees them enjoying it, she might try
because she wants to.
And what if she never ever eats macaroni salad? There are six billion
humans. MOST have never eaten macaroni salad.>>
I was never eally forced to eat food but I did eat things I didn't like just
to please my mom. Either way it was awul and at 45 I still have the memories
of it. I agree with Sandra. Just doesn't seem right to me to do. What's the
big deal to not try something?? There are many things I never tried and many
I will. One won't take away from the rest.
Mary B
<<I stand by my experience with having been forced to eat food that made me
hate that food AND made me not like my mom much either.
If others are eating macaroni and she sees them enjoying it, she might try
because she wants to.
And what if she never ever eats macaroni salad? There are six billion
humans. MOST have never eaten macaroni salad.>>
I was never eally forced to eat food but I did eat things I didn't like just
to please my mom. Either way it was awul and at 45 I still have the memories
of it. I agree with Sandra. Just doesn't seem right to me to do. What's the
big deal to not try something?? There are many things I never tried and many
I will. One won't take away from the rest.
Mary B
Mary
From: <SandraDodd@...>
<< Tastes like smegma.>>
I don't even want to know why he says that!!!!
Mary B
<< Tastes like smegma.>>
I don't even want to know why he says that!!!!
Mary B
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/8/2003 10:33:52 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
parents knew he didn't like it but they made him eat a small amount anyway
(dontcha know they're good for you?) He remembers gagging them down, I think he threw
up.
I never, ever put peas in anything he is going to eat.
He also threw up when his Mom thought he was being spoiled because he
wouldn't eat an egg that had been cooked too long. He liked them yolky, and it was
solid.
He barfed right onto his plate. She never made him eat one again.
Too bad peace and emotional health weren't more important to them.
He might actually LIKE peas and hard cooked eggs today.
I think about MY food preferences. I go through phases where peanut butter
sounds SO gross and then there are days I can't get enough of it. Tastes and
cravings come and go, each person should listen to their own body. Parents that
want kids to try new things should simply get excited about trying new things
themselves.
Ren
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[email protected] writes:
> Keith my husband hates peas Regular little green peas. Will not have oneMarkus too! And it totally goes back to a forced taste in childhood. His
> in
> his mouth.
parents knew he didn't like it but they made him eat a small amount anyway
(dontcha know they're good for you?) He remembers gagging them down, I think he threw
up.
I never, ever put peas in anything he is going to eat.
He also threw up when his Mom thought he was being spoiled because he
wouldn't eat an egg that had been cooked too long. He liked them yolky, and it was
solid.
He barfed right onto his plate. She never made him eat one again.
Too bad peace and emotional health weren't more important to them.
He might actually LIKE peas and hard cooked eggs today.
I think about MY food preferences. I go through phases where peanut butter
sounds SO gross and then there are days I can't get enough of it. Tastes and
cravings come and go, each person should listen to their own body. Parents that
want kids to try new things should simply get excited about trying new things
themselves.
Ren
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Julie Solich
So much to think about. My head hurts!!!!!
This whole thread on food/manners has given me lots to ponder. Thanks everyone for 'food for thought'. I am going to go and take some dymadon and ask the kids what they want for dinner. >g<
Julie
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cmkerin
I have a similar experience. My mother always made me just try things at relatives and on holidays and I never thought of it as a big deal but to this day when I think of childhood holidays especially over the relatives all I remember is *having* to try the squash and turnip again because I still didn't want it! Amazingly I actually thought I was going to do this with my kids, I thought it was good that mom made me try stuff. I vaguely remember trying to make my kids try things years ago but I couldn't keep doing it. I thought for years that my mother must be made of stiffer stuff than myself. <g> Now I'm glad I wasn't able to continue the cycle. :)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mary [mailto:mummy124@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: making kids taste things
From: <SandraDodd@...>
<<I stand by my experience with having been forced to eat food that made me
hate that food AND made me not like my mom much either.
If others are eating macaroni and she sees them enjoying it, she might try
because she wants to.
And what if she never ever eats macaroni salad? There are six billion
humans. MOST have never eaten macaroni salad.>>
I was never eally forced to eat food but I did eat things I didn't like just
to please my mom. Either way it was awul and at 45 I still have the memories
of it. I agree with Sandra. Just doesn't seem right to me to do. What's the
big deal to not try something?? There are many things I never tried and many
I will. One won't take away from the rest.
Mary B
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From: <SandraDodd@...>
<<I stand by my experience with having been forced to eat food that made me
hate that food AND made me not like my mom much either.
If others are eating macaroni and she sees them enjoying it, she might try
because she wants to.
And what if she never ever eats macaroni salad? There are six billion
humans. MOST have never eaten macaroni salad.>>
I was never eally forced to eat food but I did eat things I didn't like just
to please my mom. Either way it was awul and at 45 I still have the memories
of it. I agree with Sandra. Just doesn't seem right to me to do. What's the
big deal to not try something?? There are many things I never tried and many
I will. One won't take away from the rest.
Mary B
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on 6/9/03 5:26 AM, cmkerin at cmkerin@... wrote:
abound but not Joyces!
Would you mind using a last initial or middle name? I'm getting very
confused reading things "I" wrote that I don't remember writing ;-)
Joyce
> JoyceThis is an unusual situation having 2 Joyces on a list ;-) Kellys and Pattys
abound but not Joyces!
Would you mind using a last initial or middle name? I'm getting very
confused reading things "I" wrote that I don't remember writing ;-)
Joyce
Julie Bogart
--- In [email protected], "cmkerin"
<cmkerin@c...> wrote:
a big deal but to this day when I think of childhood holidays
especially over the relatives all I remember is *having* to try the
squash and turnip again because I still didn't want it!
I went to a friend's to spend the night. The mother made me eat
pistachio pudding. She literally made me sit at the table after all
the rest of the family left it and then stood behind me rubbing my
shoulders (rather forecfully, I might add) saying that I was going
to eat every single bite. I literally had tears standing in my eyes,
felt myself on the verge of throwing it all up and could only get it
down with several glasses of water.
I also never ate dinner at that friend's house again. My mother
was horrified when I told her the scenario.
I hate pudding to this day and don't require my kids to try
*anything*. I also spend a lot of time trying to rotate meals that
the kids love so that everyone can look forward to a dinner where
all the food is pleasing to both eye, nose and palette.
Julie
<cmkerin@c...> wrote:
> I have a similar experience. My mother always made me justtry things at relatives and on holidays and I never thought of it as
a big deal but to this day when I think of childhood holidays
especially over the relatives all I remember is *having* to try the
squash and turnip again because I still didn't want it!
I went to a friend's to spend the night. The mother made me eat
pistachio pudding. She literally made me sit at the table after all
the rest of the family left it and then stood behind me rubbing my
shoulders (rather forecfully, I might add) saying that I was going
to eat every single bite. I literally had tears standing in my eyes,
felt myself on the verge of throwing it all up and could only get it
down with several glasses of water.
I also never ate dinner at that friend's house again. My mother
was horrified when I told her the scenario.
I hate pudding to this day and don't require my kids to try
*anything*. I also spend a lot of time trying to rotate meals that
the kids love so that everyone can look forward to a dinner where
all the food is pleasing to both eye, nose and palette.
Julie
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/9/2003 9:30:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
julie@... writes:> I have a similar experience. My mother always made me just
that it's perfectly acceptable to spit it out. There's no need to gag and cough
and spit. Just calmly (as possible) spit it out. I would never swallow
anything I found repulsive---or leave it in my mouth another second! Why do adults
make children?
~Kelly
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julie@... writes:> I have a similar experience. My mother always made me just
> try things at relatives and on holidays and I never thought of it asWe tell the boys that if they do "try" something---and they DON'T like it,
> a big deal but to this day when I think of childhood holidays
> especially over the relatives all I remember is *having* to try the
> squash and turnip again because I still didn't want it!
that it's perfectly acceptable to spit it out. There's no need to gag and cough
and spit. Just calmly (as possible) spit it out. I would never swallow
anything I found repulsive---or leave it in my mouth another second! Why do adults
make children?
~Kelly
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Heidi
--- In [email protected], "Julie Bogart"
<julie@b...> wrote:
(of course, this food never gets served here, because it's SO nasty)
Not pistachio pudding, but rice or tapioca pudding. Oh, gross...I get
the heaves, just thinking about it. Nope. That is one dish I wouldn't
say "Just one bite. You might like it." LOL
In fact, Abbie does like tapioca pudding. Must have gotten some at a
buffet or something, cuz I've never fixed the nauseous stuff.
HeidiC
<julie@b...> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "cmkerin"as
> <cmkerin@c...> wrote:
> > I have a similar experience. My mother always made me just
> try things at relatives and on holidays and I never thought of it
> a big deal but to this day when I think of childhood holidayseyes,
> especially over the relatives all I remember is *having* to try the
> squash and turnip again because I still didn't want it!
>
> I went to a friend's to spend the night. The mother made me eat
> pistachio pudding. She literally made me sit at the table after all
> the rest of the family left it and then stood behind me rubbing my
> shoulders (rather forecfully, I might add) saying that I was going
> to eat every single bite. I literally had tears standing in my
> felt myself on the verge of throwing it all up and could only getit
> down with several glasses of water.Okay! One food I could never bring myself to say "just try one bite"
>
> I also never ate dinner at that friend's house again. My mother
> was horrified when I told her the scenario.
>
> I hate pudding to this day and don't require my kids to try
> *anything*. I also spend a lot of time trying to rotate meals that
> the kids love so that everyone can look forward to a dinner where
> all the food is pleasing to both eye, nose and palette.
>
> Julie
(of course, this food never gets served here, because it's SO nasty)
Not pistachio pudding, but rice or tapioca pudding. Oh, gross...I get
the heaves, just thinking about it. Nope. That is one dish I wouldn't
say "Just one bite. You might like it." LOL
In fact, Abbie does like tapioca pudding. Must have gotten some at a
buffet or something, cuz I've never fixed the nauseous stuff.
HeidiC
Mary
From: "Heidi" <bunsofaluminum60@...>
<<Okay! One food I could never bring myself to say "just try one bite"
(of course, this food never gets served here, because it's SO nasty)
Not pistachio pudding, but rice or tapioca pudding. Oh, gross...I get
the heaves, just thinking about it. Nope. That is one dish I wouldn't
say "Just one bite. You might like it." LOL
In fact, Abbie does like tapioca pudding. Must have gotten some at a
buffet or something, cuz I've never fixed the nauseous stuff.>>
Aha!!! See, there's a food that would make you sick if someone really wanted
you to take a bite. Just one bite. You sound like you might throw up just
talking about it!!!! And look what happened. Your daughter likes it without
you making it and without you having her "try" it by taking one spoonful.
Get it????
Mary B
<<Okay! One food I could never bring myself to say "just try one bite"
(of course, this food never gets served here, because it's SO nasty)
Not pistachio pudding, but rice or tapioca pudding. Oh, gross...I get
the heaves, just thinking about it. Nope. That is one dish I wouldn't
say "Just one bite. You might like it." LOL
In fact, Abbie does like tapioca pudding. Must have gotten some at a
buffet or something, cuz I've never fixed the nauseous stuff.>>
Aha!!! See, there's a food that would make you sick if someone really wanted
you to take a bite. Just one bite. You sound like you might throw up just
talking about it!!!! And look what happened. Your daughter likes it without
you making it and without you having her "try" it by taking one spoonful.
Get it????
Mary B
jmcseals SEALS
<<Okay! One food I could never bring myself to say "just try one bite"
(of course, this food never gets served here, because it's SO nasty)
Not pistachio pudding, but rice or tapioca pudding. Oh, gross...I get
the heaves, just thinking about it. Nope. That is one dish I wouldn't
say "Just one bite. You might like it." LOL
In fact, Abbie does like tapioca pudding. Must have gotten some at a
buffet or something, cuz I've never fixed the nauseous stuff.>>
YES!!! By George think she's got it! LOL Okay, THIS is why making kids
taste just one bite is bad. If YOU wouldn't touch the stuff and it makes
you sick, how would YOU feel if someone told you to try just one
bite...maybe your taste buds have changed....maybe this recipe is better!
Come on, you don't have to eat it if you don't like it...(even though you DO
have to eat it to taste it, but whatever).
So, it makes sense to you to not make them try things you don't like. Does
it make sense to you to make them try things you do like? Because really,
that makes no sense to me.
I say, drop the bogus dinner rules, serve a wide variety of food, say
nothing about it, and enjoy the meal! Maybe they'll try something new.
Maybe they won't. Maybe, if you don't make it such a to-do, they will have
fond memories of mealtimes in your home and think of food as comforting and
nourishing and will naturally want to try new things on their own. Maybe,
if food is attached to so many rules and pressure, they will learn to like
new things at the expense of finding mealtimes draining and only a necessary
aside. Maybe they'll want to go to their friends houses for meals instead
of wanting their friends over at yours. <beg>
Jennifer
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(of course, this food never gets served here, because it's SO nasty)
Not pistachio pudding, but rice or tapioca pudding. Oh, gross...I get
the heaves, just thinking about it. Nope. That is one dish I wouldn't
say "Just one bite. You might like it." LOL
In fact, Abbie does like tapioca pudding. Must have gotten some at a
buffet or something, cuz I've never fixed the nauseous stuff.>>
YES!!! By George think she's got it! LOL Okay, THIS is why making kids
taste just one bite is bad. If YOU wouldn't touch the stuff and it makes
you sick, how would YOU feel if someone told you to try just one
bite...maybe your taste buds have changed....maybe this recipe is better!
Come on, you don't have to eat it if you don't like it...(even though you DO
have to eat it to taste it, but whatever).
So, it makes sense to you to not make them try things you don't like. Does
it make sense to you to make them try things you do like? Because really,
that makes no sense to me.
I say, drop the bogus dinner rules, serve a wide variety of food, say
nothing about it, and enjoy the meal! Maybe they'll try something new.
Maybe they won't. Maybe, if you don't make it such a to-do, they will have
fond memories of mealtimes in your home and think of food as comforting and
nourishing and will naturally want to try new things on their own. Maybe,
if food is attached to so many rules and pressure, they will learn to like
new things at the expense of finding mealtimes draining and only a necessary
aside. Maybe they'll want to go to their friends houses for meals instead
of wanting their friends over at yours. <beg>
Jennifer
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Would you mind using a last initial or middle name? I'm getting very
confused reading things "I" wrote that I don't remember writing ;-)
No problem. I'll try to remember to use the child version of our name. <g>
Joycee
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[email protected]
In a message dated 6/9/03 7:30:33 AM, julie@... writes:
<< She literally made me sit at the table after all
the rest of the family left it and then stood behind me rubbing my
shoulders (rather forecfully, I might add) saying that I was going
to eat every single bite. I literally had tears standing in my eyes,
felt myself on the verge of throwing it all up and could only get it
down with several glasses of water. >>
That is so sad. I read it to Holly. (Turns out Marty had paused his game in
the other room and was listening too.)
I turned to Holly and said "If anyone ever tries to make you eat food, don't
do it." She said, "I'll just say, 'Could I have the phone?'"
Marty, from the other room, said "Eat it and then throw up on their table!"
My kids are messed up, huh? <BIG wide grin>
Sandra
<< She literally made me sit at the table after all
the rest of the family left it and then stood behind me rubbing my
shoulders (rather forecfully, I might add) saying that I was going
to eat every single bite. I literally had tears standing in my eyes,
felt myself on the verge of throwing it all up and could only get it
down with several glasses of water. >>
That is so sad. I read it to Holly. (Turns out Marty had paused his game in
the other room and was listening too.)
I turned to Holly and said "If anyone ever tries to make you eat food, don't
do it." She said, "I'll just say, 'Could I have the phone?'"
Marty, from the other room, said "Eat it and then throw up on their table!"
My kids are messed up, huh? <BIG wide grin>
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/9/03 7:48:09 AM, kbcdlovejo@... writes:
<< We tell the boys that if they do "try" something---and they DON'T like it,
that it's perfectly acceptable to spit it out. There's no need to gag and
cough
and spit. Just calmly (as possible) spit it out. I would never swallow
anything I found repulsive---or leave it in my mouth another second! >>
AHA! I had forgotten!
When the kids were little and they wanted to taste something but were afraid,
I would say "If you don't like it you can spit it in my hand," and would hold
my hand out right under their mouths.
Marty spit stuff in my hand three or four times. Kirby maybe once. Holly,
I don't remember. But I was serious and they knew it.
I made the same offer to adult friends a few times in those days. They
thought it was REALLY funny and that's the kind of guarantee that can get someone
to taste something, too.
Sandra
<< We tell the boys that if they do "try" something---and they DON'T like it,
that it's perfectly acceptable to spit it out. There's no need to gag and
cough
and spit. Just calmly (as possible) spit it out. I would never swallow
anything I found repulsive---or leave it in my mouth another second! >>
AHA! I had forgotten!
When the kids were little and they wanted to taste something but were afraid,
I would say "If you don't like it you can spit it in my hand," and would hold
my hand out right under their mouths.
Marty spit stuff in my hand three or four times. Kirby maybe once. Holly,
I don't remember. But I was serious and they knew it.
I made the same offer to adult friends a few times in those days. They
thought it was REALLY funny and that's the kind of guarantee that can get someone
to taste something, too.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/9/03 8:10:15 AM, bunsofaluminum60@... writes:
<< In fact, Abbie does like tapioca pudding. Must have gotten some at a
buffet or something, cuz I've never fixed the nauseous stuff. >>
SO! Maybe every time you're tempted to say "Go on, taste it!" picture a
seven-year-old you facing a bowl of rice pudding, with tears welling up in your
eyes and your throat tightening.
Sandra
<< In fact, Abbie does like tapioca pudding. Must have gotten some at a
buffet or something, cuz I've never fixed the nauseous stuff. >>
SO! Maybe every time you're tempted to say "Go on, taste it!" picture a
seven-year-old you facing a bowl of rice pudding, with tears welling up in your
eyes and your throat tightening.
Sandra
jmcseals SEALS
<<My kids are messed up, huh? <BIG wide grin>>>
Hey, messed up or not, they can come to dinner at my house! I might even
force them to eat something gross just to see them throw up on my table!
We'd all die laughing!
Oh wait, I'm going against my principles here, just for a laugh!
I think they sound great!
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Hey, messed up or not, they can come to dinner at my house! I might even
force them to eat something gross just to see them throw up on my table!
We'd all die laughing!
Oh wait, I'm going against my principles here, just for a laugh!
I think they sound great!
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Julie Bogart
--- In [email protected],
SandraDodd@a... wrote:
person I must have been. Why didn't I just say NO!?" But I
realized that I had been trained to "respect adults" and to "not
make a scene." Is that really what we want for our kids? I had no
sense of my own power.
And then I realized that I absolutely *don't* want that for our kids.
In fact, I've gone out of my way to support them when they've tried
to express outrage or frustration because I so don't want them
"bending over" for obnoxious people--adults, kids, spouse or
otherwise.
You've got great kids, Sandra. And I'm pretty sure they won't be in
the Koolaid drinking crowd. <bwg>
Julie B
SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>his game in
> That is so sad. I read it to Holly. (Turns out Marty had paused
> the other room and was listening too.)food, don't
>
> I turned to Holly and said "If anyone ever tries to make you eat
> do it." She said, "I'll just say, 'Could I have the phone?'"their table!"
>
> Marty, from the other room, said "Eat it and then throw up on
>I was driving this a.m. and thinking, "Wow! What a coerced
> My kids are messed up, huh? <BIG wide grin>
person I must have been. Why didn't I just say NO!?" But I
realized that I had been trained to "respect adults" and to "not
make a scene." Is that really what we want for our kids? I had no
sense of my own power.
And then I realized that I absolutely *don't* want that for our kids.
In fact, I've gone out of my way to support them when they've tried
to express outrage or frustration because I so don't want them
"bending over" for obnoxious people--adults, kids, spouse or
otherwise.
You've got great kids, Sandra. And I'm pretty sure they won't be in
the Koolaid drinking crowd. <bwg>
Julie B
[email protected]
Smart kids!
Laura d
In a message dated 6/9/2003 12:50:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
I turned to Holly and said "If anyone
Sandra
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Laura d
In a message dated 6/9/2003 12:50:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
>That is so sad. I read it to Holly. (Turns out Marty had paused his game
> inthe other room and was listening too.)
I turned to Holly and said "If anyone
> ever tries to make you eat food, don'tdo it." She said, "I'll just say,
> 'Could I have the phone?'"Marty, from the other room, said "Eat it and then
> throw up on their table!"My kids are messed up, huh?
Sandra
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[email protected]
In a message dated 6/9/03 3:19:32 AM, SandraDodd@... writes:
<< Tastes like smegma. >>
And did he explain when he had had smegma? <vbg!!!>
<< black-eyed peas. Hated the smell, hated the
texture, said they taste like dirt. >>
They DO!!
Lara........... who could eat guacamole and avacados each and every day
<< Tastes like smegma. >>
And did he explain when he had had smegma? <vbg!!!>
<< black-eyed peas. Hated the smell, hated the
texture, said they taste like dirt. >>
They DO!!
Lara........... who could eat guacamole and avacados each and every day
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/9/2003 2:10:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Laramike12@... writes:
and some that were yummy! Thus you run the risk when you eat others cooking.
Out of all my family I am probably the pickiest eater. I really dislike eating
out because I have all these thoughts about how clean was the kitchen, did
the cook or food prep or even the food handlers pick their noses or scratch
their butts?
Some people don't really "cook" they open packages or cans and serve food and
that's fine too, I guess, as long as I don't have to eat it.
glena who is already dreading the weekend because she will have to eat her
MIL cooking (or lack thereof really) and smile pleasantly while doing so...
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Laramike12@... writes:
> black-eyed peas. Hated the smell, hated theDepends on how you fix them, I've had some that taste like dirt, or worse,
> texture, said they taste like dirt. >>
>
> They DO!!
>
and some that were yummy! Thus you run the risk when you eat others cooking.
Out of all my family I am probably the pickiest eater. I really dislike eating
out because I have all these thoughts about how clean was the kitchen, did
the cook or food prep or even the food handlers pick their noses or scratch
their butts?
Some people don't really "cook" they open packages or cans and serve food and
that's fine too, I guess, as long as I don't have to eat it.
glena who is already dreading the weekend because she will have to eat her
MIL cooking (or lack thereof really) and smile pleasantly while doing so...
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[email protected]
In a message dated 6/9/03 11:06:40 AM, jmcseals@... writes:
<< Oh wait, I'm going against my principles here, just for a laugh! >>
No problem. Marty would probably oblige you.
He puked Thursday of the police academy stuff, because he was kinda sick and
they did too much rolling over and upside down stuff. Friday night I met one
of the girls he had talked about most. I asked him whether he had taken any
more photos (he had taken ONE), and he said no. I asked her if anyone had
taken a picture of Marty throwing up. She didn't think it was funny. That was
okay. I think it was compassion for Marty, rather than just no sense of humor.
She had just gotten the award for "Most Physically Fit Female," so out of
respect for her ability to kick my ass and Marty's too, I didn't press.
Sandra
<< Oh wait, I'm going against my principles here, just for a laugh! >>
No problem. Marty would probably oblige you.
He puked Thursday of the police academy stuff, because he was kinda sick and
they did too much rolling over and upside down stuff. Friday night I met one
of the girls he had talked about most. I asked him whether he had taken any
more photos (he had taken ONE), and he said no. I asked her if anyone had
taken a picture of Marty throwing up. She didn't think it was funny. That was
okay. I think it was compassion for Marty, rather than just no sense of humor.
She had just gotten the award for "Most Physically Fit Female," so out of
respect for her ability to kick my ass and Marty's too, I didn't press.
Sandra
Alan & Brenda Leonard
6/9/03 05:26:
avacados and guacamole.
I had to try one bite of everything as a kid, and hated having to do it, so
I it's only in the last couple years that I've started tasting new things
again. Took me almost 15 years to get around to it. And I found that I
have come to like avacados!
Tim doesn't like them yet, though. So I don't have to share!
brenda
> He won't eat guacamole. The restaurant we go to has great guacamole theyOooh, that sounds totally YUM! I just this spring discovered that I like
> make tableside, fresh, but nope.
avacados and guacamole.
I had to try one bite of everything as a kid, and hated having to do it, so
I it's only in the last couple years that I've started tasting new things
again. Took me almost 15 years to get around to it. And I found that I
have come to like avacados!
Tim doesn't like them yet, though. So I don't have to share!
brenda
[email protected]
abtleo@... writes:
<< The restaurant we go to has great guacamole they
table, and my first thought was, why would they *do* that? I always make mine
ahead of time to give all the flavas a chance to get to know each other before I
eat it. lol
~Aimee
<< The restaurant we go to has great guacamole they
> make tableside, fresh, but nope. >>Ya know, I read about a restaurant that does this, makes it fresh at the
table, and my first thought was, why would they *do* that? I always make mine
ahead of time to give all the flavas a chance to get to know each other before I
eat it. lol
~Aimee