Lost creativity?
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My kids have been in PS for years. It seems like they are losing their
creativity and spontinaity(sp). I ask them what they would like to do or
study, and they don't seem to know, esp my oldest. He has no real interests
outside of looking at skateboard magazines and wearing dark, baggy clothes. He has
been failing for years. I brought him home in the middle of last year, but he
resisted the whole HS thing. He refused to HS this year. He failed his freshman
year, and will be taking a few summer classes. I think he feels disappointed
with himself but not sure what he wants to do.
My question is........how can I help him get back his interest and
desire to learn....anything? I realize he can follow his skateboarding but he
mostly just likes to look at the pics and hang them on his wall. If I could
convince him to HS I know he would have more freedom to learn without the pressure
of homework etc., but he doesn't want to. He loves the PS social life. He has
youth group but is having trouble feeling like he fits in. He is a christian
but dresses differently. I have never seen anyone or heard anyone act judginly
towards him but he feels like they are.( I have worried that he might be
depressed but he has not been on any meds for it.)
Londa <A HREF="www.mymomishome.com">www.mymomishome.com</A>
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creativity and spontinaity(sp). I ask them what they would like to do or
study, and they don't seem to know, esp my oldest. He has no real interests
outside of looking at skateboard magazines and wearing dark, baggy clothes. He has
been failing for years. I brought him home in the middle of last year, but he
resisted the whole HS thing. He refused to HS this year. He failed his freshman
year, and will be taking a few summer classes. I think he feels disappointed
with himself but not sure what he wants to do.
My question is........how can I help him get back his interest and
desire to learn....anything? I realize he can follow his skateboarding but he
mostly just likes to look at the pics and hang them on his wall. If I could
convince him to HS I know he would have more freedom to learn without the pressure
of homework etc., but he doesn't want to. He loves the PS social life. He has
youth group but is having trouble feeling like he fits in. He is a christian
but dresses differently. I have never seen anyone or heard anyone act judginly
towards him but he feels like they are.( I have worried that he might be
depressed but he has not been on any meds for it.)
Londa <A HREF="www.mymomishome.com">www.mymomishome.com</A>
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In a message dated 6/8/03 3:50:34 PM, Loniam@... writes:
<< I ask them what they would like to do or
study, and they don't seem to know, esp my oldest. >>
Don't ask.
Just go with what they ARE doing.
Arrange for things to happen around them, arrange for them to be around where
things are happening.
They don't need to "study" anything.
They can't help but learn from every single thing they see or do.
<<He has no real interests
outside of looking at skateboard magazines and wearing dark, baggy clothes.
He has
been failing for years. >>
Failing at wearing dark clothes? Failing at looking at skateboarding
magazines?
Forget school. Forget that whole school life/thought/list of "should." Turn
away from the dark shadow of the school toward the light of the real world.
<<I brought him home in the middle of last year, but he
resisted the whole HS thing. He refused to HS this year.>>
You mean he went back to school?
If he's not going to school next year, why should he take summer school
classes?
<<I think he feels disappointed
with himself but not sure what he wants to do. >>
He doesn't have to be "sure what he wants to do."
Does he want to go to school or not? If so, help make that more pleasant.
Ideas:
http://sandradodd.com/schoolchoice
<< My question is........how can I help him get back his interest and
desire to learn....anything? >>
By not ragging on him about what he wants to learn or do.
Ideas:
http://sandradodd.com/deschooling
<<If I could
convince him to HS I know he would have more freedom to learn without the
pressure
of homework etc.,>>
You can do that while he's still in school. But if homeschooling is going to
mean he still has schoolish expectations on him but no social life, why
should he want to be home?
Read some of these things and try to breathe deeply and smile and not see the
dark side of him so much. Can you cook something fun he liked when he was
little, rent a funny movie and make some popcorn and sit with him and watch a
movie without saying ANYTHING about school or homeschooling or learning?
Much of the work of changing happens within the moms. THEY have to be
creative for homeschooling to work well.
<A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/deschooling">Deschooling for Parents, by
Sandra Dodd</A>
(read the disposable checklists article linked at the bottom of that too)
<A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/schoolchoice">Public School on Your Own Terms
</A>
Sandra
<< I ask them what they would like to do or
study, and they don't seem to know, esp my oldest. >>
Don't ask.
Just go with what they ARE doing.
Arrange for things to happen around them, arrange for them to be around where
things are happening.
They don't need to "study" anything.
They can't help but learn from every single thing they see or do.
<<He has no real interests
outside of looking at skateboard magazines and wearing dark, baggy clothes.
He has
been failing for years. >>
Failing at wearing dark clothes? Failing at looking at skateboarding
magazines?
Forget school. Forget that whole school life/thought/list of "should." Turn
away from the dark shadow of the school toward the light of the real world.
<<I brought him home in the middle of last year, but he
resisted the whole HS thing. He refused to HS this year.>>
You mean he went back to school?
If he's not going to school next year, why should he take summer school
classes?
<<I think he feels disappointed
with himself but not sure what he wants to do. >>
He doesn't have to be "sure what he wants to do."
Does he want to go to school or not? If so, help make that more pleasant.
Ideas:
http://sandradodd.com/schoolchoice
<< My question is........how can I help him get back his interest and
desire to learn....anything? >>
By not ragging on him about what he wants to learn or do.
Ideas:
http://sandradodd.com/deschooling
<<If I could
convince him to HS I know he would have more freedom to learn without the
pressure
of homework etc.,>>
You can do that while he's still in school. But if homeschooling is going to
mean he still has schoolish expectations on him but no social life, why
should he want to be home?
Read some of these things and try to breathe deeply and smile and not see the
dark side of him so much. Can you cook something fun he liked when he was
little, rent a funny movie and make some popcorn and sit with him and watch a
movie without saying ANYTHING about school or homeschooling or learning?
Much of the work of changing happens within the moms. THEY have to be
creative for homeschooling to work well.
<A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/deschooling">Deschooling for Parents, by
Sandra Dodd</A>
(read the disposable checklists article linked at the bottom of that too)
<A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/schoolchoice">Public School on Your Own Terms
</A>
Sandra
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Loniam@... wrote:
clothes 24/7. LOL
TreeGoddess
>wearing dark, baggy clothes. <snip> He is a christian but dresses differently.Not really if you consider all the monks and nuns that wear dark, baggy
>
clothes 24/7. LOL
TreeGoddess
Tim and Maureen
This is IN FACT what school does to us. It saps us big time. Creativity happens when we are free. When chained to a desk, we loose touch with it. I HIGHLY recommend the first chapter of Wishcraft, by Barbara Sher. I was already unschooling the kids and realized I had been unschooling me too.
My thots
Tim
My thots
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: Loniam@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 2:49 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Lost creativity?
My kids have been in PS for years. It seems like they are losing their
creativity and spontinaity(sp). I ask them what they would like to do or
study, and they don't seem to know, esp my oldest.
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Barb Eaton
Tim,
Are you and Maureen going to be able to make it to the Conference in SC?
I think you would be very encouraging to many, specially at the Dads
workshop. :-)
Barb E
"Listen to your life. See it for the fathomless mystery that it
is. In the boredom and pain of it no less than in the
excitement and gladness: touch, taste, smell your way to
the holy and hidden heart of it because in the last
analysis all moments are key moments, and life itself is
grace."
- Frederick Buechner, Author, in "Now and Then"
Are you and Maureen going to be able to make it to the Conference in SC?
I think you would be very encouraging to many, specially at the Dads
workshop. :-)
Barb E
"Listen to your life. See it for the fathomless mystery that it
is. In the boredom and pain of it no less than in the
excitement and gladness: touch, taste, smell your way to
the holy and hidden heart of it because in the last
analysis all moments are key moments, and life itself is
grace."
- Frederick Buechner, Author, in "Now and Then"
>I was
> already unschooling the kids and realized I had been unschooling me too.
>
> My thots
> Tim
Tim and Maureen
Can't afford to drive to Hixon. That 30 km from Prince George. BC. Canada. :O))
But thanks! That's a pretty nice thing to say!! :O)) Love how being fully engaged in this "technique" for life is expanding my self-esteem - and then you say this! :O)))))
My (happy) thots!
Tim T
But thanks! That's a pretty nice thing to say!! :O)) Love how being fully engaged in this "technique" for life is expanding my self-esteem - and then you say this! :O)))))
My (happy) thots!
Tim T
----- Original Message -----
From: Barb Eaton
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:28 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Lost creativity?
Tim,
Are you and Maureen going to be able to make it to the Conference in SC?
I think you would be very encouraging to many, specially at the Dads
workshop. :-)
Barb E
"Listen to your life. See it for the fathomless mystery that it
is. In the boredom and pain of it no less than in the
excitement and gladness: touch, taste, smell your way to
the holy and hidden heart of it because in the last
analysis all moments are key moments, and life itself is
grace."
- Frederick Buechner, Author, in "Now and Then"
>
I was
> already unschooling the kids and realized I had been unschooling me too.
>
> My thots
> Tim
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Awwww..Bummer!
I was thinking the same thing when Barb brought it up. I would love my husband to talk with you. There aren't any guys around here with this kind of thinking. :(
Glad you are here, Tim!
Oh, and by the way my husband is also Tim T. <g>
Kelli~
I was thinking the same thing when Barb brought it up. I would love my husband to talk with you. There aren't any guys around here with this kind of thinking. :(
Glad you are here, Tim!
Oh, and by the way my husband is also Tim T. <g>
Kelli~
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim and Maureen
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Lost creativity?
Can't afford to drive to Hixon. That 30 km from Prince George. BC. Canada. :O))
But thanks! That's a pretty nice thing to say!! :O)) Love how being fully engaged in this "technique" for life is expanding my self-esteem - and then you say this! :O)))))
My (happy) thots!
Tim T
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Tim and Maureen
Go ahead and put them on the group - or he can email me offline. Love to blab! Esp. about creativity. I used to coach inventors on starting businesses and do their marketing. Love to talk with "creatives." Unschoolers are SUCH inventors!
My (manly) thots
Tim T
My (manly) thots
Tim T
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelli Traaseth
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Lost creativity?
Awwww..Bummer!
I was thinking the same thing when Barb brought it up. I would love my husband to talk with you. There aren't any guys around here with this kind of thinking. :(
Glad you are here, Tim!
Oh, and by the way my husband is also Tim T. <g>
Kelli~
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim and Maureen
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Lost creativity?
Can't afford to drive to Hixon. That 30 km from Prince George. BC. Canada. :O))
But thanks! That's a pretty nice thing to say!! :O)) Love how being fully engaged in this "technique" for life is expanding my self-esteem - and then you say this! :O)))))
My (happy) thots!
Tim T
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