Charlotte Mason
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Hello everyone,
I am relatively new to unschooling; I have been reading on it as
well as homeschooling for over a year now. Recently I read an article
praising the Charlotte Mason method. I am interested in learning more about
this, and I was wondering if anyone uses her techniques, and what your
thoughts are about it. One thing I have heard about is a nature journal that
the kids would draw in-- my oldest son (5 yrs) really does not like to draw
very much, at least he does not spontaneously choose to sit and draw very
often. Anyway, I would be grateful for any opinions you might have. Thanks!
Karen
I am relatively new to unschooling; I have been reading on it as
well as homeschooling for over a year now. Recently I read an article
praising the Charlotte Mason method. I am interested in learning more about
this, and I was wondering if anyone uses her techniques, and what your
thoughts are about it. One thing I have heard about is a nature journal that
the kids would draw in-- my oldest son (5 yrs) really does not like to draw
very much, at least he does not spontaneously choose to sit and draw very
often. Anyway, I would be grateful for any opinions you might have. Thanks!
Karen
Stephanie Holzbaur
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Karen
First what are the ages of your other children?
I have a 5 year old boy (Sam).
My first question is does anyone draw around him?
Do you draw or does he have older friends who draw?
My son does a lot of crafts, I also enjoy doing crafts. He did not
draw all the time but, when we started being around some other kids
who love drawing, he will now get some paper and just draw and draw
and do some amazing things. When he started this it was just a few
days latter that his drawings took on a new look. First they were
sticks now they have faces and clothes in just one month.
This is a lot of the way I feel we homeschool, expose, expose and
more exposure. I know when I was in school I loved the learning that
was experienced on a field trip. So, we look at our days as field
trips, what can we experience today that will bring us enjoyment and
excitment to learn more. We just moved to a farm from the city so we
are very excited to experience everything in nature. The wild turkey
were in the compost yesterday and the dear have made great trails
through the woods.
Stephanie
in upstate New York
> the kids would draw in-- my oldest son (5 yrs) really does not liketo draw
> very much, at least he does not spontaneously choose to sit anddraw very >
Karen
First what are the ages of your other children?
I have a 5 year old boy (Sam).
My first question is does anyone draw around him?
Do you draw or does he have older friends who draw?
My son does a lot of crafts, I also enjoy doing crafts. He did not
draw all the time but, when we started being around some other kids
who love drawing, he will now get some paper and just draw and draw
and do some amazing things. When he started this it was just a few
days latter that his drawings took on a new look. First they were
sticks now they have faces and clothes in just one month.
This is a lot of the way I feel we homeschool, expose, expose and
more exposure. I know when I was in school I loved the learning that
was experienced on a field trip. So, we look at our days as field
trips, what can we experience today that will bring us enjoyment and
excitment to learn more. We just moved to a farm from the city so we
are very excited to experience everything in nature. The wild turkey
were in the compost yesterday and the dear have made great trails
through the woods.
Stephanie
in upstate New York
The White's
Hi Karen,
We read a lot although I would classify us as unschoolers rather than
followers of Mason. I just wanted to say that my son only began to like
drawing when he was 6+. I'm sure that it was because of the slow
development of all boy's small motor skills. He didn't like coloring books
either. He loved to paint as it is much easier holding those chubby
paintbrushes than even a fat pencil or crayon.
He loves drawing now (he's 7 1/2). He used to be somewhat bothered when he
would notice his cousins (girls same age) drawing & coloring & using
scissors so much easier than he could. It's just developmental.
Maybe you could get him a disposable camera...after the film is developed he
could paint at home. I like the idea of pasting things in his notebook
also. Can his whistle? If so, help him learn to imitate some birdcalls.
My son always loved collecting things (still does). You could begin a
nature box as well as a nature book....collect acorns, rocks and other
things that can't be pasted into a book.
Cindy
We read a lot although I would classify us as unschoolers rather than
followers of Mason. I just wanted to say that my son only began to like
drawing when he was 6+. I'm sure that it was because of the slow
development of all boy's small motor skills. He didn't like coloring books
either. He loved to paint as it is much easier holding those chubby
paintbrushes than even a fat pencil or crayon.
He loves drawing now (he's 7 1/2). He used to be somewhat bothered when he
would notice his cousins (girls same age) drawing & coloring & using
scissors so much easier than he could. It's just developmental.
Maybe you could get him a disposable camera...after the film is developed he
could paint at home. I like the idea of pasting things in his notebook
also. Can his whistle? If so, help him learn to imitate some birdcalls.
My son always loved collecting things (still does). You could begin a
nature box as well as a nature book....collect acorns, rocks and other
things that can't be pasted into a book.
Cindy
nellebelle
I, too, was intrigued by the idea of narration in my early days of
homeschooling. I think it is far better than required writing for those who
do school, especially with kids who are not ready to do much writing.
From an unschooling perspective, perhaps "narration" can remind us as
parents to really listen to what our kids DO say. Perhaps we are the ones
who need to summarize what they say.
Mary Ellen
homeschooling. I think it is far better than required writing for those who
do school, especially with kids who are not ready to do much writing.
From an unschooling perspective, perhaps "narration" can remind us as
parents to really listen to what our kids DO say. Perhaps we are the ones
who need to summarize what they say.
Mary Ellen
Tia Leschke
> Oh, and I just thought about this part. Charlotte Mason didn't believeRegardless of any other considerations, that method would not work with
> in giving children tests. That's the "good news". The bad news is that
> instead of giving tests, she had "narration." That is, the children
> listen to a lesson and then say back what they learned. This is
> supposed to help them concentrate on the lesson.
visual or kinesthetic kids.
Tia
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In a message dated 3/11/03 10:18:43 AM, dackroyd@... writes:
<< I agree with you. I never did get what the purpose of narration would
be. >>
I think it's for when someone is teaching other people's kids for money and
they need to "show progress" or prove comprehension.
It's better than paper tests. Less intrusive. More "organic."
Still contrived, but if there are only two choices (that or traditional
school) that's way better.
Sandra
<< I agree with you. I never did get what the purpose of narration would
be. >>
I think it's for when someone is teaching other people's kids for money and
they need to "show progress" or prove comprehension.
It's better than paper tests. Less intrusive. More "organic."
Still contrived, but if there are only two choices (that or traditional
school) that's way better.
Sandra
Angela
I also think part of the purpose for narration was to help you remember what
you read. I think she believed if you repeated it outloud, the information
had a better chance of being retained. I think this would work for me if I
had to remember facts. I also remember better when I have written something
down. I can write a grocery list at home and forget it on the counter but
still remember everything on it. If I hadn't written it down, I wouldn't
have remembered as well.
Angela in Maine- mailto:unschooling@...
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"What you are shouts so loudly in my ears I cannot hear what you say."
Emerson
<< I agree with you. I never did get what the purpose of narration would
be. >>
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you read. I think she believed if you repeated it outloud, the information
had a better chance of being retained. I think this would work for me if I
had to remember facts. I also remember better when I have written something
down. I can write a grocery list at home and forget it on the counter but
still remember everything on it. If I hadn't written it down, I wouldn't
have remembered as well.
Angela in Maine- mailto:unschooling@...
http://userpages.prexar.com/rickshaw/
"What you are shouts so loudly in my ears I cannot hear what you say."
Emerson
<< I agree with you. I never did get what the purpose of narration would
be. >>
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Rachel Ann
From what I read the narration was suppose to be very gentle, at least for
the young children, and fairly natural. Related an experience, talking about
a book they read, or something they saw, or a funny joke they heard, or
whatever, was narration.
It wasn't suppose to be a dry recitation. I picture it more as a
conversation at the start at least, with more and more of the conversation
given over to the child until the time they could write an essay about the
topic. (The end goal was writing an essay.)
So, in effect, at least from my understanding, if you read a book to your
child an asked what they thought and then added some of your own questions
and understandings, you would be having your child narrate. If your child
bounced in the room excitedly telling you about the birds in the nest and
that they were born, and they are so funny looking, that would be narration.
I think most of us do this to some extent, it seemed to me she was
encouraging it as more normative practice.
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Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 18:01:30
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Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Charlotte Mason
I also think part of the purpose for narration was to help you remember what
you read. I think she believed if you repeated it outloud, the information
had a better chance of being retained. I think this would work for me if I
had to remember facts. I also remember better when I have written something
down. I can write a grocery list at home and forget it on the counter but
still remember everything on it. If I hadn't written it down, I wouldn't
have remembered as well.
Angela in Maine- mailto:unschooling@...
http://userpages.prexar.com/rickshaw/
"What you are shouts so loudly in my ears I cannot hear what you say."
Emerson
<< I agree with you. I never did get what the purpose of narration would
be. >>
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the young children, and fairly natural. Related an experience, talking about
a book they read, or something they saw, or a funny joke they heard, or
whatever, was narration.
It wasn't suppose to be a dry recitation. I picture it more as a
conversation at the start at least, with more and more of the conversation
given over to the child until the time they could write an essay about the
topic. (The end goal was writing an essay.)
So, in effect, at least from my understanding, if you read a book to your
child an asked what they thought and then added some of your own questions
and understandings, you would be having your child narrate. If your child
bounced in the room excitedly telling you about the birds in the nest and
that they were born, and they are so funny looking, that would be narration.
I think most of us do this to some extent, it seemed to me she was
encouraging it as more normative practice.
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 18:01:30
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Charlotte Mason
I also think part of the purpose for narration was to help you remember what
you read. I think she believed if you repeated it outloud, the information
had a better chance of being retained. I think this would work for me if I
had to remember facts. I also remember better when I have written something
down. I can write a grocery list at home and forget it on the counter but
still remember everything on it. If I hadn't written it down, I wouldn't
have remembered as well.
Angela in Maine- mailto:unschooling@...
http://userpages.prexar.com/rickshaw/
"What you are shouts so loudly in my ears I cannot hear what you say."
Emerson
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MARK and JULIE SOLICH
Up to several months ago, I used the Charlotte Mason approach for 2-3 years.
I also loved the idea of learning through living books and the nature
journals and narration. It worked well for us though there were areas where
we did our own thing like reading nine chapters of The Last Battle in a day
and not getting anything else done!!
We still read lots of living books as the kids love them.
We have been continuing our nature journals but I have realized that I need
to give my boys the choice as to whether or not they continue with theirs.
It has been hard because I love to journal and they have a couple of really
amazing journals and I would love for them to take this one thing into
adulthood. BUT, it has to be their choice so I've let it go and I'll
secretly hope they join me when I journal.
It still is very much parent directed learning though. Definitely not
unschooling.
Julie
Helen Hegener (HEM-Editor@...).
I also loved the idea of learning through living books and the nature
journals and narration. It worked well for us though there were areas where
we did our own thing like reading nine chapters of The Last Battle in a day
and not getting anything else done!!
We still read lots of living books as the kids love them.
We have been continuing our nature journals but I have realized that I need
to give my boys the choice as to whether or not they continue with theirs.
It has been hard because I love to journal and they have a couple of really
amazing journals and I would love for them to take this one thing into
adulthood. BUT, it has to be their choice so I've let it go and I'll
secretly hope they join me when I journal.
It still is very much parent directed learning though. Definitely not
unschooling.
Julie
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nellebelle
----- snip----- > We still read lots of living books as the kids love
them.>>>>>>
I've forgotten, what is a living book?
Dd and I were watching pop up music videos. Shania Twain has one where she
has a double in the future. A pop up window came up that said The Twain
didn't meet (or something like that). I told her that I'd heard the phrase,
Never the Twain shall meet. I got out the dictionary and looked up twain.
It was on the same page that had Twaddle as the first word on the page and
Twiddle on the last. I found that very amusing. So that was my Charlotte
Mason moment for the day :-)
Mary Ellen
them.>>>>>>
I've forgotten, what is a living book?
Dd and I were watching pop up music videos. Shania Twain has one where she
has a double in the future. A pop up window came up that said The Twain
didn't meet (or something like that). I told her that I'd heard the phrase,
Never the Twain shall meet. I got out the dictionary and looked up twain.
It was on the same page that had Twaddle as the first word on the page and
Twiddle on the last. I found that very amusing. So that was my Charlotte
Mason moment for the day :-)
Mary Ellen
nellebelle
>>>>>If your childbounced in the room excitedly telling you about the birds in the nest and
that they were born, and they are so funny looking, that would be
narration.>>>>>
Yeah! And if you have some of those folks in your life who need to hear
about your homeschooling in schoolish terms, you can impress them with this:
"Johnny gives me daily narrations on his studies".
I believe. however, that CM intended for parents to direct the narration,
which wouldn't be unschooling.
Mary Ellen
Rachel Ann
Here's from one of the Charlotte Mason websites:
Living Books = books that are well-written and engaging---they absorb the
reader---the narrative and characters "come alive"; living books are the
opposite of cold, dry textbooks.
Twaddle = dumbed down literature; absence of meaning
She also felt that children could learn to read a multi-syllable word as
easily as a short word.
be well,
Rachel Ann
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Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 19:49:47
To: [email protected]
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----- snip----- > We still read lots of living books as the kids love
them.>>>>>>
I've forgotten, what is a living book?
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Living Books = books that are well-written and engaging---they absorb the
reader---the narrative and characters "come alive"; living books are the
opposite of cold, dry textbooks.
Twaddle = dumbed down literature; absence of meaning
She also felt that children could learn to read a multi-syllable word as
easily as a short word.
be well,
Rachel Ann
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Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 19:49:47
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----- snip----- > We still read lots of living books as the kids love
them.>>>>>>
I've forgotten, what is a living book?
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Rachel Ann
Oh, definitely not unschooling...
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to state that. There was a definite parental goal,
and, I suppose I oversimplified. The bouncing child would be considered the
first step. again, at least from my understanding. And mom and dad get to
pick the books, the art, the music etc. that the child is exposed to; I can
say with some assurance that Animae wouldn't make their list of recommended
books...
It can be useful though, just for the reasons you state; edu-speak. Always
handy to have on hand. And, in my book, encouraging a parent to listen to
what a child says is a good thing.
be well,
Rachel Ann
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Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 20:11:39
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that they were born, and they are so funny looking, that would be
narration.>>>>>
Yeah! And if you have some of those folks in your life who need to hear
about your homeschooling in schoolish terms, you can impress them with this:
"Johnny gives me daily narrations on his studies".
I believe. however, that CM intended for parents to direct the narration,
which wouldn't be unschooling.
Mary Ellen
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to state that. There was a definite parental goal,
and, I suppose I oversimplified. The bouncing child would be considered the
first step. again, at least from my understanding. And mom and dad get to
pick the books, the art, the music etc. that the child is exposed to; I can
say with some assurance that Animae wouldn't make their list of recommended
books...
It can be useful though, just for the reasons you state; edu-speak. Always
handy to have on hand. And, in my book, encouraging a parent to listen to
what a child says is a good thing.
be well,
Rachel Ann
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Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 20:11:39
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Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Charlotte Mason
>>>>>If your childbounced in the room excitedly telling you about the birds in the nest and
that they were born, and they are so funny looking, that would be
narration.>>>>>
Yeah! And if you have some of those folks in your life who need to hear
about your homeschooling in schoolish terms, you can impress them with this:
"Johnny gives me daily narrations on his studies".
I believe. however, that CM intended for parents to direct the narration,
which wouldn't be unschooling.
Mary Ellen
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nellebelle
Definitely!
Mary Ellen
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And, in my book, encouraging a parent to listen to
Mary Ellen
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And, in my book, encouraging a parent to listen to
> what a child says is a good thing.
MARK and JULIE SOLICH
Charlotte Mason advocated reading narratives rather than textbooks. I've
always thought of a living book as a book that brings its subject matter to
life (like Little House on the Prairie or The Snow Goose by Paul Gallico). I
guess a living book would be the antithesis of a textbook.
Julie
always thought of a living book as a book that brings its subject matter to
life (like Little House on the Prairie or The Snow Goose by Paul Gallico). I
guess a living book would be the antithesis of a textbook.
Julie
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> ----- snip----- > We still read lots of living books as the kids love
> them.>>>>>>
>
> I've forgotten, what is a living book?
>
> Dd and I were watching pop up music videos. Shania Twain has one where
she
> has a double in the future. A pop up window came up that said The Twain
> didn't meet (or something like that). I told her that I'd heard the
phrase,
> Never the Twain shall meet. I got out the dictionary and looked up twain.
> It was on the same page that had Twaddle as the first word on the page and
> Twiddle on the last. I found that very amusing. So that was my Charlotte
> Mason moment for the day :-)
>
> Mary Ellen
>
>
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mary krzyzanowski
We also enjoyed the reading aloud and still do. We ran into a problem with
the drawing- nature journals and copying famous artists. My younger dd was
always comparing herself to her older sister's drawing skills. We began
unschooling about May 2000 and she is just getting comfortable about
drawing.
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the drawing- nature journals and copying famous artists. My younger dd was
always comparing herself to her older sister's drawing skills. We began
unschooling about May 2000 and she is just getting comfortable about
drawing.
Mary-NY
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>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:33:58 +0800
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>
>Up to several months ago, I used the Charlotte Mason approach for 2-3
>years.
>I also loved the idea of learning through living books and the nature
>journals and narration. It worked well for us though there were areas where
>we did our own thing like reading nine chapters of The Last Battle in a day
>and not getting anything else done!!
>
>We still read lots of living books as the kids love them.
>
> We have been continuing our nature journals but I have realized that I
>need
>to give my boys the choice as to whether or not they continue with theirs.
>It has been hard because I love to journal and they have a couple of really
>amazing journals and I would love for them to take this one thing into
>adulthood. BUT, it has to be their choice so I've let it go and I'll
>secretly hope they join me when I journal.
>
>It still is very much parent directed learning though. Definitely not
>unschooling.
>
>Julie
>
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nellebelle
What did she think of Encyclopedias?
Mary Ellen
------I guess a living book would be the antithesis of a textbook.
Mary Ellen
------I guess a living book would be the antithesis of a textbook.
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In a message dated 3/11/03 4:07:32 PM, unschooling@... writes:
<< I think she believed if you repeated it outloud, the information
had a better chance of being retained. >>
It works with retelling books or movies. I think if the recommendation is to
listen to people and discuss things, the same effect can be had in a more
unschooling way. "Narration" just sounds like "oral book report" to me.
Slight shift from assigned to voluntary makes all the difference. And to
communication and dialog from narrator/teacher-judge.
Because I don't read left to right but kind of swirly, "Charlotte Mason"
invariably looks first like "Charles Manson" and then I see it more clearly.
Sandra
<< I think she believed if you repeated it outloud, the information
had a better chance of being retained. >>
It works with retelling books or movies. I think if the recommendation is to
listen to people and discuss things, the same effect can be had in a more
unschooling way. "Narration" just sounds like "oral book report" to me.
Slight shift from assigned to voluntary makes all the difference. And to
communication and dialog from narrator/teacher-judge.
Because I don't read left to right but kind of swirly, "Charlotte Mason"
invariably looks first like "Charles Manson" and then I see it more clearly.
Sandra
Rachel Ann
I think she disliked the educational system of the time; which was
basically regurgitation. As one website put it, children at that time were
forced to sit in hard chairs and recite endless lists of facts back to the
teacher.
She saw this, at least from my understanding, as a more natural, relaxed and
child friendly way of learning. I don't know what he opinion would be today
It is hard to know how someone's from the past would now respond to any
particular situation.
be well,
Rachel Ann
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:34:30
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Charlotte Mason
In a message dated 3/11/03 4:07:32 PM, unschooling@... writes:
<< I think she believed if you repeated it outloud, the information
had a better chance of being retained. >>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
basically regurgitation. As one website put it, children at that time were
forced to sit in hard chairs and recite endless lists of facts back to the
teacher.
She saw this, at least from my understanding, as a more natural, relaxed and
child friendly way of learning. I don't know what he opinion would be today
It is hard to know how someone's from the past would now respond to any
particular situation.
be well,
Rachel Ann
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:34:30
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Charlotte Mason
In a message dated 3/11/03 4:07:32 PM, unschooling@... writes:
<< I think she believed if you repeated it outloud, the information
had a better chance of being retained. >>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
[email protected]
I just sent a period as a whole e-mail. I'm really sorry.
Meant to say, of "living books," how subjective it is.
Some book resonate with me, and that makes them full of life. Or rather,
between that book and my mind, lots of life is happening.
But some books which might be considered valuable classics by other people
seem like life-sucking deathholes to me.
So I think "living" is really always only happening in the human involved,
and for an outside entity to prescribe (pre-label) what is "living" and what
isn't hits on that issue of respecting differences.
Maybe music is an easier analogy even than books. Some music will make one
person cry with emotional depth, and another person cry "Turn it off! What
irritating noise!"
Sandra
Meant to say, of "living books," how subjective it is.
Some book resonate with me, and that makes them full of life. Or rather,
between that book and my mind, lots of life is happening.
But some books which might be considered valuable classics by other people
seem like life-sucking deathholes to me.
So I think "living" is really always only happening in the human involved,
and for an outside entity to prescribe (pre-label) what is "living" and what
isn't hits on that issue of respecting differences.
Maybe music is an easier analogy even than books. Some music will make one
person cry with emotional depth, and another person cry "Turn it off! What
irritating noise!"
Sandra
zenmomma *
>>I think most of us do this to some extent, it seemed to me she wasencouraging it as more normative practice.>>
I think talking to and listening to our kids is a worthy goal. Calling it
narration, to me, inserts a layer of formality that doesn't need to be
there.
Life is good.
~Mary, who has read lots on Charlotte Mason, brought home and loved many
unabridged classic books, has her own Nature journal, and tried and
abandoned narrations after one silly attempt.
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Probably not much!
They are useful at times but they are not something we use much. Still, that
may change. I do have a set but mostly they take up space on the shelf and
gather dust.
They are useful at times but they are not something we use much. Still, that
may change. I do have a set but mostly they take up space on the shelf and
gather dust.
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Charlotte Mason
> What did she think of Encyclopedias?
> Mary Ellen
>
> ------I guess a living book would be the antithesis of a textbook.
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I think that's a good point. What she did was radical at the time.
Julie
Julie
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From: "Rachel Ann" <hindar@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Charlotte Mason
>
> I think she disliked the educational system of the time; which was
> basically regurgitation. As one website put it, children at that time were
> forced to sit in hard chairs and recite endless lists of facts back to the
> teacher.
>
> She saw this, at least from my understanding, as a more natural, relaxed
and
> child friendly way of learning. I don't know what he opinion would be
today
> It is hard to know how someone's from the past would now respond to any
> particular situation.
>
> be well,
> Rachel Ann
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:34:30
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Charlotte Mason
>
> In a message dated 3/11/03 4:07:32 PM, unschooling@... writes:
>
> << I think she believed if you repeated it outloud, the information
> had a better chance of being retained. >>
>
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I made my poor darlings narrate several times a week for a year. And they
still love me. Aren't kids great?
Narration is contrived and when you think about how much kids love to be
listened to and tell you what they think, it does seem unnecessary doesn't
it?
still love me. Aren't kids great?
Narration is contrived and when you think about how much kids love to be
listened to and tell you what they think, it does seem unnecessary doesn't
it?
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Charlotte Mason
> >>I think most of us do this to some extent, it seemed to me she was
> encouraging it as more normative practice.>>
>
> I think talking to and listening to our kids is a worthy goal. Calling it
> narration, to me, inserts a layer of formality that doesn't need to be
> there.
>
> Life is good.
> ~Mary, who has read lots on Charlotte Mason, brought home and loved many
> unabridged classic books, has her own Nature journal, and tried and
> abandoned narrations after one silly attempt.
>
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