Mary

I just read where the first person to propose having a Father's Day was a woman by the name of Sonora Dodd.

Man, you Dodd's have all the good ideas!!!!

Mary B


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In a message dated 6/7/2003 10:48:25 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
mummy124@... writes:

> Man, you Dodd's have all the good ideas!!!!

Cute!<g>

I have an interesting Father'sDay situation. Keith asked the kids to tell me
he wanted Babylon 5 on DVD. A friend had recorded them all for him on VHS,
from a cable series of reruns, but I hear a few were glitched or cut off.

Keith doesn't know how expensive that would be.

Well anyway, I ordered used copies of the first season and two specials (a
prequel and the series pilot).

But Keith doesn't have a DVD player in our bedroom and he complains about the
den, about laundry and cats and the chairs being too low and ... (just
complains).

So I priced DVD players but I hate to just charge it where he'll have to pay
for it. And the last few checks I've gotten for ThinkingSticks or a column or
tapes, I gave to Keith to deposit.

AHA!! Kirby has a job! He's working 30 hours next week! So I asked him if
he could front me enough for a DVD player, and I'll pay him back most of it,
plus try to talk Marty and Holly into putting some in. Then I can pay Kirby
back gradually. He said yes!

A different perspective. <g>

Sandra


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Mary

From: <SandraDodd@...>

<<A different perspective. <g>>


It pays to have responsible kids doesn't it??!!! Glad you figured something
out.


So far we have a shirt from Old Navy that Tara got Joe. Tara and I picked up
a dvd of My Cousin Vinny. Looked for Shrek but K Mart didn't have it. Tara
found it at the mall but her friend told her it was too expensive, try Best
Buy or even Target. I want to get him a new belt. He wears one all the time
with his jeans and is need of a new one. Plus the Shrek dvd. I was looking
at some other things when I found out what he really wants. Tickets for
Aerosmith/Kiss concert!!! I am not a concert type of person now, unless
maybe CW but most definitely not rock like that!!! I have the number to call
as soon as I get him out of the house. Not sure what this will cost but I
know I will need to buy earplugs.

Mary B

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In a message dated 6/7/03 11:22:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

>
> AHA!! Kirby has a job! He's working 30 hours next week! So I asked him if
> he could front me enough for a DVD player, and I'll pay him back most of it,
>
> plus try to talk Marty and Holly into putting some in. Then I can pay Kirby
>
> back gradually. He said yes!
>
> A different perspective. <g>
>
> Sandra
>

Isn't it absolutely amazing how great our kids are? Kass and Kree were dying
to buy me a computer chair for Mother's Day. They kept hinting around for
weeks before about how bad my back must hurt sitting in the lawn chair I was
using. Then they went on to how embarrassing it must be when people come in my
bedroom and see a backyard chair at my computer. I knew where they were headed and
told them that my chair was just fine and computer chairs are pretty pricey
and just not a priority right now. The Sunday before Mother's Day, they looked
at all the ads in the newspaper for chairs. I could see they were a little
shocked at the expense of the chairs they wanted for me. Of course I pretended to
not notice that they were only looking at those ads. They started getting a
little down about it, then disappeared. I left the ads out for most of the day
and then threw them out. The next Saturday they went to the desert to quad
ride with my DH and his friends. I was in bad shape and welcomed the solitude to
stay in bed all day. When they arrived home that afternoon, I had just
showered and changed into new pajamas. They came in tired and filthy from riding in
some mud and said, "We're hittin the showers mom, can you get dressed while we
get ready?" Huh? I wanted to climb back in bed. Dh walked in and said,"Did the
babies tell you to get dressed? They want you to go with us to pick out a
computer chair for your Mother's Day present." I argued the need and the expense
and he said, "They came to me with the whole plan, you can't disappoint them."
He said they had put their money together and came up with $46. They told him
that they had enough for a chair, but not the kind they thought I deserved
and could he help? He was so excited that they were willing to part with every
cent they had for my gift that he said, "Sure I'll put in too." Then they hit
him with the next question,"Do we have to pay you back, since she's not your
mother?" He said he couldn't help but crack up at their concern. He told
them,"Nah, you don't have to pay me back since without me she wouldn't be your
mother."

I got dressed and off we went to hunt out my perfect chair. We found it at
Lowes hardware store and it was on sale too!!! This brings me to a whole nother
thread about respect that children don't get.

The chair came in this humongous box that was really heavy. The girls went
and retrieved one of those pallet type carts so their Daddy could put it on and
they could take it to the cashier. While walking thru the store my DH gave
them a hundred dollar bill to use with their money to pay for it. We walked past
them while they waited in line. Apparently there was some special that Lowes
card holders were getting that weekend and they were getting 10% off their
purchases. Problem was not one of the cashiers knew how to use this discount. We
waited as we watched all the cashiers clamor about trying to figure out how
discount their customers. Each one was on the phone or shouting back and forth to
another cashier. It was comedy. Kass and Kree just stood in line rolling
their eyes over the incompetence that was so obvious. Phil and I just laughed and
decided to go outside and look at the sidewalk stuff while the girls waited to
make their purchase.

After another 10 minutes, I stopped listening to my chattering hubby and
watched the girls inside as they were in deep conversation with the check out
girl. He finally noticed I wasn't listening and asked, "What's wrong?" I replied,
"I don't know, but the girls look pissed." I started to walk back in when he
stopped me and said, "They can handle themselves, Rhonda, just wait." He was
right. When they finally came outside with the pallet cart, they were pissed.
Phil asked, "What took you so long?"

They were just disgusted and said,"First daddy, did you see how poor their
customer service was? How can they not know how to calculate 10%?" I laughed
because I didn't know they knew how to calculate 10%. They continued, "Then after
one of them got a clue, they had the nerve to ask us if we were shopping
alone. Now how I ask you, do they think we got this big ass chair on this pallet?
We told that chick, 'no our parents are outside because they got tired of
waiting for you to figure out 10%. So can we have our receipt?' Can you believe
them daddy?" He said, "Well yeah, they probably aren't used to kids shopping at
Lowes and paying for things alone." Then the clencher was, "Well the last time
we checked kids with money are comsumer's too. And isn't there some law that
says a kid can be on their own if a judge says so?" I was floored. I said, "Do
you mean an emancipated minor?" I could see that I hit the nail on the head
and they responded with, "Yeah, that's it! I mean what if we were emancipated
minors, would they not sell us the chair? Then again mom they probably wouldn't
know what that meant either since they couldn't figure out 10%, which by the
way we told her how to figure that out too. I bet she went to school too."

Sorry to have rambled on so much but I just had the need to share. It always
amazes me how much our kids get from just living and I wish our lost poster
was still here to see what my unschooling automatons are treating the world
like.

Rhonda


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In a message dated 6/7/03 2:22:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> AHA!! Kirby has a job! He's working 30 hours next week! So I asked him if
>
> he could front me enough for a DVD player, and I'll pay him back most of it,
>
> plus try to talk Marty and Holly into putting some in. Then I can pay Kirby
>
> back gradually. He said yes!
>
> A different perspective. <g>
>
> Sandra
>

All of thats a lot of sense.. Especially since its FATHER'S day, not
HUSBAND'S day. :-) If my kids have thier own money and want to buy me or thier
father something for mothers's/father's day, they do it. If they don't have any
money because they haven't had a chance to earn/save any, then we will
definitely kick in to help them out.. OR suggest something like a special favor or
treat ( bake a cake, make card, do a chore, etc). I think that Keith should
have told you to tell the kids what he wanted. They should pay the biggest
portion of the gift.

Teresa


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In a message dated 6/7/03 7:02:58 PM, mummy124@... writes:

<< Tickets for

Aerosmith/Kiss concert!!! >>

Ooo, Ooo, Ooo!!! I want some too!!! Lara........... who has seen both many
times, and can never get too much of Aerosmith!!!!!!!

Alan & Brenda Leonard

6/7/03 21:23:

> <<A different perspective. <g>>

Here's another perspective --

Before he left, I asked my husband what he'd like for Father's day.

"A whole box full of babywipes refill packs." So that's what we've gotten
him. It hasn't gone in the mail yet, maybe I'll think of something else he
could use that I could tuck in there.

Remembering that my dh has very little time off, no storage space, no
electricity, email or phone access, and extreme heat (so no food), anybody
got any great ideas? <g>

brenda
(if you're new or confused, my dh is in Baghdad with the US Army these days)

[email protected]

How about a Camera?

Tell him for me Happy Father's Day and THANK YOU!

Laura D

>
> Here's another perspective --
>
> Before he left, I asked my husband what he'd like for Father's day.
>
> "A whole box full of babywipes refill packs." So that's what we've gotten
> him. It hasn't gone in the mail yet, maybe I'll think of something else he
> could use that I could tuck in there.
>
> Remembering that my dh has very little time off, no storage space, no
> electricity, email or phone access, and extreme heat (so no food), anybody
> got any great ideas? <g>
>
> brenda
> (if you're new or confused, my dh is in Baghdad with the US Army these days)



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Nicholina ODonnell

>Before he left, I asked my husband what he'd like for Father's day.

>"A whole box full of babywipes refill packs." So that's what we've gotten
>him. It hasn't gone in the mail yet, maybe I'll think of something else he
>could use that I could tuck in there.

>Remembering that my dh has very little time off, no storage space, no
>electricity, email or phone access, and extreme heat (so no food), anybody
>got any great ideas? <g>

>brenda
>(if you're new or confused, my dh is in Baghdad with the US Army these days)

I've heard some soldiers in sandy environments asking for ski goggles to keep sand out of their eye, plus eye glass-type protection. Perhaps he'd be interested in that?

Nicholina




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In a message dated 6/7/2003 2:05:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
grlynbl@... writes:

> I think that Keith should
> have told you to tell the kids what he wanted. They should pay the biggest
> portion of the gift.
>
>

Keith kind of asked for a $400 gift, though, and he knows it's his money. He
just doesn't like to spend it himself. <g> And we'll all end up benefiting.


Sandra


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Mary

From: <grlynbl@...>

<<All of thats a lot of sense.. Especially since its FATHER'S day, not
HUSBAND'S day. :-) If my kids have thier own money and want to buy me or
thier
father something for mothers's/father's day, they do it. >.


I always but Father's Day gifts for my husband. Some from the kids and some
from me. Now that Tara is working, she will not allow me to guy gifts for
him. At Christmas, birthday and Father's Day, she spends her own money and
picks out her own gifts. I don't expect that and offer to give her money.
She won't hear of it.

Tara has a very good friend. He's looking at a $500.00 portable small stereo
for his dad. He'll be paying with his credit card. His dad pays for the
credit card. The kid doesn't have a job. I think that's a little much. Pick
out a shirt or something!

Mary B

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abtleo@... writes:

<< Remembering that my dh has very little time off, no storage space, no
electricity, email or phone access, and extreme heat (so no food), anybody
got any great ideas? <g>

brenda
(if you're new or confused, my dh is in Baghdad with the US Army these days)
>>

That reminds me that my aunt sent her son in law a huge box of




.....wait for it........




CHOCOLATE!!





TO IRAQ!!

Omigod, it's just too funny!


Some food, tho, is ok, isn't it? Little bags of chips or pretzels, they
won't rot or melt. I have no other ideas, Mike said food was best because they
were getting sick of the MRE's.

~Aimee

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In a message dated 6/7/03 5:43:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> Keith kind of asked for a $400 gift, though, and he knows it's his money.
> He
> just doesn't like to spend it himself. <g> And we'll all end up benefiting.
>
>
> Sandra
>

Yeah, I can see that too. It's the same way around here. If "I" go spend
the money, it's really money that G earned. That is a very cool gift too, the
kind that everybody gets :-)

Teresa


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Barb Eaton

Brenda,
FWIW how about breath mints or those strip thing. I can stand to not be
able to brush my teeth. Insoles (sp) for his boots?


Barb E
"Winners make a habit of manufacturing their own positive
expectations in advance of the event."

- Brian Tracy, Speaker & Author




on 6/7/03 5:20 PM, [email protected] at
[email protected] wrote:

> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 22:57:32 +0200
> From: Alan & Brenda Leonard <abtleo@...>
>
> Remembering that my dh has very little time off, no storage space, no
> electricity, email or phone access, and extreme heat (so no food), anybody
> got any great ideas? <g>
>
> brenda
> (if you're new or confused, my dh is in Baghdad with the US Army these days)

Alan & Brenda Leonard

6/7/03 23:20:

> How about a Camera?
>
> Tell him for me Happy Father's Day and THANK YOU!

The army issued him a digital camera, believe it or not. Maybe they thought
it would improve morale.

It would be a great idea, though, if he didn't have one. Thanks!

> I've heard some soldiers in sandy environments asking for ski goggles to keep
> sand out of their eye, plus eye glass-type protection. Perhaps he'd be
> interested in that?

Hmmm. Interesting. He has sun glasses, but I could send his ski goggles.
He's supposed to get email access eventually, maybe I'll wait and see if he
wants them. I have no concept of how cities look in sandy countries; he is
truly IN Baghdad, but I don't know if that helps any or not.

Thanks for the good idea.

brenda

Alan & Brenda Leonard

6/8/03 01:12:

> I have no other ideas, Mike said food was best because they
> were getting sick of the MRE's.

I'll bet. But they are telling us to not send food at all right now,
because it's 85 degrees here and 120 degress there, and in hot stuffy mail
rooms and airplanes between here and there, and things stitting around for
weeks before getting delivered, etc.

So we're supposed to let them just be sick of MRE's until it's cooler and
the mail system works better. (They keep telling everyone the mail system
will work better soon. Right. <dripping sarcasm>)

My wierdo husband actually likes MRE's. Other wives are sending powdered
gaterade to mix with water. My dh likes water better and insisted he
doesn't want gaterade. I love him anyway, but I think he's kinda odd....


brenda

Alan & Brenda Leonard

6/8/03 15:56:

> Brenda,
> FWIW how about breath mints or those strip thing. I can stand to not be
> able to brush my teeth. Insoles (sp) for his boots?

Barb!

Great idea, especially the insoles! I'll be the ones he has with him stink
by now. Wonderful! I know he can brush his teeth there, but I'll bet
tictac type things would survive the heat reasonably well.

Thanks! (I knew somebody in the 1000 or so people on this list would have
the perfect idea for me. <g>)

brenda

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In a message dated 6/8/03 2:11:43 PM, abtleo@... writes:

<< Thanks! (I knew somebody in the 1000 or so people on this list would have
the perfect idea for me. <g>) >>

Well....
They're in a desert.
I know deserts.

What he might not have that he might could use:
Q-tips
NICE sunscreen
Visine
chapstick
tweezers (for stickers, which are just part of the dirt and the wind
sometimes in the desert)

(I'm thinking of tiny easily mailable stuff.)

[email protected]

In a message dated 06/08/03 4:11:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
abtleo@... writes:

<< (I knew somebody in the 1000 or so people on this list would have
the perfect idea for me. <g>)

brenda >>

Brenda,

I wasn't going to share this but since this topic has gone on for a few days
I'll pass this along for what it's worth. Believe me, I did not make this up!
There was an article in the newspaper a week or so ago about this very
subject -- what do military personnel stationed in the Mideast want sent from home.
Definitely the baby wipes! They're highly treasured! Things to freshen the
mouth. And -- heavens, I can't believe I'm even posting this -- feminine
hygiene panty liners! Honest to goodness, I'm not making this up! The soldiers
adhere them to the inside of their helmets in the forehead area to absorb the
sweat so they're not constantly having all that dirt and sweat up against
their foreheads. Certainly makes sense to me! However, if your husband has a
desk job, he may not have such a huge need for panty liners for his helmet. ;-)
OK, I'm going away now.

Leonore, slinking back into Lurk Mode

Mary

From: <TFAP@...>

<<And -- heavens, I can't believe I'm even posting this -- feminine
hygiene panty liners! Honest to goodness, I'm not making this up! The
soldiers
adhere them to the inside of their helmets in the forehead area to absorb
the
sweat so they're not constantly having all that dirt and sweat up against
their foreheads.>>



That reminds me of a story a mailman told me years ago. He delivered to one
very large retirement condo. One time he had free samples of maxi pads
delivered to all residents there. He found out one lady was asking for those
that no one wanted, she was collecting them. He was wondering what for when
one day he saw her cleaning her windows. She said they did a wonderful job!!

Mary B

Nora or Devereaux Cannon

SNIP (June 7 diary entry):
My latest winning haiku:

Will someone please tell
All of the people back home
No more baby wipes?

No, really. We have enough now. Thank you.

LINK:
http://www.lt-smash.us

----- Original Message -----
From: <TFAP@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] father's day


| In a message dated 06/08/03 4:11:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
| abtleo@... writes:
|
| << (I knew somebody in the 1000 or so people on this list would
have
| the perfect idea for me. <g>)
|
| brenda >>
|
| Brenda,
|
| I wasn't going to share this but since this topic has gone on
for a few days
| I'll pass this along for what it's worth. Believe me, I did
not make this up!
| There was an article in the newspaper a week or so ago about
this very
| subject -- what do military personnel stationed in the Mideast
want sent from home.
| Definitely the baby wipes! They're highly treasured!

Tim and Maureen

I have a similar dilemma, My dh wants a 1000 dollar camera. He has been working hard and long but the money gets eaten up in the daily living expenses of 4 kids with allergies, health concerns, etc...

Maureen
----- Original Message -----
From: sandradodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] father's day


In a message dated 6/7/2003 2:05:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
grlynbl@... writes:

> I think that Keith should
> have told you to tell the kids what he wanted. They should pay the biggest
> portion of the gift.
>
>

Keith kind of asked for a $400 gift, though, and he knows it's his money. He
just doesn't like to spend it himself. <g> And we'll all end up benefiting.


Sandra


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Alan & Brenda Leonard

Leonore,

My husband is out and about, so no desk job. Maybe I'll buy a package and
stick them in with a note. Even if he doesn't want them, he has a female
assistant who would eventually get some use out of a box of them, I'm sure.

And it could be worth a GREAT laugh! Thanks!

brenda


6/9/03 00:28:


> And -- heavens, I can't believe I'm even posting this -- feminine
> hygiene panty liners! Honest to goodness, I'm not making this up! The
> soldiers
> adhere them to the inside of their helmets in the forehead area to absorb the
> sweat so they're not constantly having all that dirt and sweat up against
> their foreheads. Certainly makes sense to me! However, if your husband has a
> desk job, he may not have such a huge need for panty liners for his helmet.
> ;-)
> OK, I'm going away now.

Kelli Traaseth

Great story Rhonda!

Great kids Rhonda!

Kelli~ who is thinking about her aching back, from sleeping on the floor in Underwater World at Mall of America. Worth it though!


----- Original Message -----
From: RJHill241@...
Isn't it absolutely amazing how great our kids are? Kass and Kree were dying
to buy me a computer chair for Mother's Day. They kept hinting around for
weeks before about how bad my back must hurt sitting in the lawn chair I was
using. Then they went on to how embarrassing it must be when people come in my
bedroom and see a backyard chair at my computer. I knew where they were headed and
told them that my chair was just fine and computer chairs are pretty pricey
and just not a priority right now. The Sunday before Mother's Day, they looked
at all the ads in the newspaper for chairs. I could see they were a little
shocked at the expense of the chairs they wanted for me. Of course I pretended to
not notice that they were only looking at those ads. They started getting a
little down about it, then disappeared. I left the ads out for most of the day
and then threw them out. The next Saturday they went to the desert to quad
ride with my DH and his friends. I was in bad shape and welcomed the solitude to
stay in bed all day. When they arrived home that afternoon, I had just
showered and changed into new pajamas. They came in tired and filthy from riding in
some mud and said, "We're hittin the showers mom, can you get dressed while we
get ready?" Huh? I wanted to climb back in bed. Dh walked in and said,"Did the
babies tell you to get dressed? They want you to go with us to pick out a
computer chair for your Mother's Day present." I argued the need and the expense
and he said, "They came to me with the whole plan, you can't disappoint them."
He said they had put their money together and came up with $46. They told him
that they had enough for a chair, but not the kind they thought I deserved
and could he help? He was so excited that they were willing to part with every
cent they had for my gift that he said, "Sure I'll put in too." Then they hit
him with the next question,"Do we have to pay you back, since she's not your
mother?" He said he couldn't help but crack up at their concern. He told
them,"Nah, you don't have to pay me back since without me she wouldn't be your
mother."



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In a message dated 6/9/03 5:11:18 AM, tktraas@... writes:

<< Kelli~ who is thinking about her aching back, from sleeping on the
floor in Underwater World at Mall of America. Worth it though! >>

Hey, I've been to that aquarium! Nobody was sleeping on the floor when I was
there.
It's a very cool place.

Sandra

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In a message dated 6/9/03 4:11:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
tktraas@... writes:

> Great story Rhonda!
>
> Great kids Rhonda!
>
> Kelli~ who is thinking about her aching back, from sleeping on the floor
> in Underwater World at Mall of America. Worth it though!
>
>

Kelli,

Thank you for your kind words. I'm grateful to have my kids and DH. And I'm
pretty darn thrilled with this list.

Rhonda


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