Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: TV/food
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In a message dated 6/5/2003 9:02:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
britcontoo@... writes:
(who are older though) would be free to choose to watch it (as they were at any
age) but they've changed channels watching it too.
My oldest son was over the other night and switched to it and the younger boy
said "turn it, this makes Mom sick", I offered to not be bothered by it if
they wanted to see it but they chose something else.
I guess by letting children choose it comes back in good and thoughtful ways,
even when they are nearly grown children.
I will also add about the food/candy my children have ALWAYS been free to
choose what to eat/not eat. Candy was ALWAYS sitting around and bags in the
cupboards, but so was fruit, cheese (gotta love these new string cheese things!)
and fresh veggies.
My kids rarely eat candy. One son LOVES cake, pies and ice cream type
desserts, one loves the fruit bar popsicle type treats, the girls, they like a very
GOOD dessert every now and again.
When other children would come over, I've seen them eat themselves sick
eating a pile of chocolate candy that was set out. At first I thought maybe I
should say something since there were eating so much, but I don't limit mine so I
didn't. More than once I've had mothers call me irate about "allowing" their
children to eat so much candy at my house.
What to do? Tell them they CAN'T eat candy here or that they can only have
one or two pieces? To my kids that sounded selfish and it always made the
other kids sneak and eat it anyway. I could put it away when certain kids were
coming over I guess or remind them they got sick last time and their mother
wasn't happy?
I never did find a good way to handle this, I didn't feel like it was my job
to police other peoples children regarding candy that was sitting out.
I know others wondered why MY kids didn't get sick from it, I guess because
it WAS available they knew when they truly wanted it, they could have it. My
15 (yes she's officially 15 now) year old gets cravings for chocolate during
the month, but only wants GOOD chocolate, Godiva and her dad indulges her (and
himself).
My kids LOVE veggies, raw, cooked, they don't care they eat them. Only one
child is a picky eater. The one that was two when I was in college and my
mother watched. She had lots of rules regarding food. He's going to be 22 and
STILL runs for the snack cupboard when he comes here, he knows he's free to take
whatever he chooses, eat it here or take it home, he usually does both! My
oldest daughter finds it amusing that he's still so child like in that regard.
Two weeks ago he put a Klondike bar in his jacket pocket to take home to eat
later. He took off his jacket in the truck and forgot about the ice cream...
nice mess the next day at work. Now he takes the whole box, in a bag, no more
forgetting.
I think limiting them definitely makes some children want it so much more and
they WILL eat themselves sick, I guess because they don't know when they will
be allowed any more.
I bet there is still trick or treat candy stashed in Cait's room somewhere
from last year uneaten, probably even Christmas Stocking candy, her room is due
a good spring cleaning, I'm sure of it, maybe next week...
glena
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britcontoo@... writes:
> We went through this whole "To fear factor or not to fear factor"My major issue with this show is it makes me GAG frequently. My children
> thing here as well. The major issue we had with the show was the
> lack of sportsmanship and general talking "crap" that went on
(who are older though) would be free to choose to watch it (as they were at any
age) but they've changed channels watching it too.
My oldest son was over the other night and switched to it and the younger boy
said "turn it, this makes Mom sick", I offered to not be bothered by it if
they wanted to see it but they chose something else.
I guess by letting children choose it comes back in good and thoughtful ways,
even when they are nearly grown children.
I will also add about the food/candy my children have ALWAYS been free to
choose what to eat/not eat. Candy was ALWAYS sitting around and bags in the
cupboards, but so was fruit, cheese (gotta love these new string cheese things!)
and fresh veggies.
My kids rarely eat candy. One son LOVES cake, pies and ice cream type
desserts, one loves the fruit bar popsicle type treats, the girls, they like a very
GOOD dessert every now and again.
When other children would come over, I've seen them eat themselves sick
eating a pile of chocolate candy that was set out. At first I thought maybe I
should say something since there were eating so much, but I don't limit mine so I
didn't. More than once I've had mothers call me irate about "allowing" their
children to eat so much candy at my house.
What to do? Tell them they CAN'T eat candy here or that they can only have
one or two pieces? To my kids that sounded selfish and it always made the
other kids sneak and eat it anyway. I could put it away when certain kids were
coming over I guess or remind them they got sick last time and their mother
wasn't happy?
I never did find a good way to handle this, I didn't feel like it was my job
to police other peoples children regarding candy that was sitting out.
I know others wondered why MY kids didn't get sick from it, I guess because
it WAS available they knew when they truly wanted it, they could have it. My
15 (yes she's officially 15 now) year old gets cravings for chocolate during
the month, but only wants GOOD chocolate, Godiva and her dad indulges her (and
himself).
My kids LOVE veggies, raw, cooked, they don't care they eat them. Only one
child is a picky eater. The one that was two when I was in college and my
mother watched. She had lots of rules regarding food. He's going to be 22 and
STILL runs for the snack cupboard when he comes here, he knows he's free to take
whatever he chooses, eat it here or take it home, he usually does both! My
oldest daughter finds it amusing that he's still so child like in that regard.
Two weeks ago he put a Klondike bar in his jacket pocket to take home to eat
later. He took off his jacket in the truck and forgot about the ice cream...
nice mess the next day at work. Now he takes the whole box, in a bag, no more
forgetting.
I think limiting them definitely makes some children want it so much more and
they WILL eat themselves sick, I guess because they don't know when they will
be allowed any more.
I bet there is still trick or treat candy stashed in Cait's room somewhere
from last year uneaten, probably even Christmas Stocking candy, her room is due
a good spring cleaning, I'm sure of it, maybe next week...
glena
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In a message dated 6/5/2003 2:05:59 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
rubyprincesstsg@... writes:
toothpicks to eat it with. Little chunks of cheese, meat if they do that,
chunks of pineapple, apple...
Sandra
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rubyprincesstsg@... writes:
> What to do? Tell them they CAN'T eat candy here or that they can only haveI would just put it all up, and set out a platter of other fun stuff and some
>
> one or two pieces? To my kids that sounded selfish and it always made the
> other kids sneak and eat it anyway. I could put it away when certain kids
> were
> coming over I guess or remind them they got sick last time and their mother
> wasn't happy?
>
toothpicks to eat it with. Little chunks of cheese, meat if they do that,
chunks of pineapple, apple...
Sandra
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Susan Fuerst
Glena wrote:
eating a pile of chocolate candy that was set out. At first I thought
maybe I
should say something since there were eating so much, but I don't limit
mine so I
didn't. More than once I've had mothers call me irate about "allowing"
their
children to eat so much candy at my house.<<
School kids around here are getting out for summer lately. And, as in
our previous neighborhood, they like to hang out here frequently. They
are all totally scarfing what we have around her. I have a family of
six already, and cannot afford to have them all have this newfound
eating freedom all the time!
We are looking for ways to live with this situation. I am still letting
go of many issues with regard to foods and eating. I have a ways to go.
I still make judgement comments at times to my own children, but am
more aware and trying to weed these poison attitudes out of my system.
The neighborhood kids scarfing all our food, esp. "treats" is
frustrating and expensive. I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas?
Thanks,
Susan
>>When other children would come over, I've seen them eat themselvessick
eating a pile of chocolate candy that was set out. At first I thought
maybe I
should say something since there were eating so much, but I don't limit
mine so I
didn't. More than once I've had mothers call me irate about "allowing"
their
children to eat so much candy at my house.<<
School kids around here are getting out for summer lately. And, as in
our previous neighborhood, they like to hang out here frequently. They
are all totally scarfing what we have around her. I have a family of
six already, and cannot afford to have them all have this newfound
eating freedom all the time!
We are looking for ways to live with this situation. I am still letting
go of many issues with regard to foods and eating. I have a ways to go.
I still make judgement comments at times to my own children, but am
more aware and trying to weed these poison attitudes out of my system.
The neighborhood kids scarfing all our food, esp. "treats" is
frustrating and expensive. I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas?
Thanks,
Susan
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In a message dated 6/5/2003 4:53:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fuerst@...
writes:
point have to hide snacks, sodas, etc., when my boys were teenagers. There
might be fifteen or twenty teenagers here and maybe three or four were
disrespectful enough that if there were four or five cases of soda downstairs, they
thought they HAD to drink it all because they COULD.
The final straw was a couple hundred dollars worth of food disappearing in a
day... no one can afford that every day. My kids starting seeing that if they
had disrespectful kids here (usually a friend of someone else who tagged
along with someone else that was here) and they drank up all the sodas, juices,
Gatorades and ate all the sandwich stuff, snack stuff and even the FOOD in the
freezer, then they were the ones that suffered because that amount might very
well have lasted them for weeks.
They would tell their friends NOT to bring so and so over anymore, but often
times when they were driving, they show up because so and so was here and
proceed to indulge in everything they could get, without an invitation.
My kids were sensitive to this and before this really bad summer was over all
non perishable snacks and stuff were in MY bedroom closet. I hated that, the
kids hated that. It seemed so selfish and was really because of a very small
amount of their friends.
Finally one day my DH came home and caught some kid rummaging through my
bedroom because he had seen the kids go in and come out with sodas so he (in his
disrespectful manner) was helping himself.
He made it CLEAR that this is NOT a free food bank, it's NOT a buffet and
it's NOT their home, so if they are not OFFERED anything, then don't take it or
look for it.
It was kinda mortifying but he had enough, so had we. Guess what they
"offenders" were not at all phased by it, they somehow feel it wasn't meant for
THEM, after all they are just friends of whoever, not my kid.
It can get ugly, I'm not sure of a good way to head it off. Don't get me
wrong we have lots of kids here all the time and I feed them, I cook specifically
for them, but respectful kids, kind kids, kids who are FRIENDS to my kids.
Kids who don't think they should load up their pockets with bottles of soda to
take with them, or just call other people to come hang out at my house.
We let it go to far for too long when we moved here and the kids got older.
It's hard to limit other kids when yours don't need/don't get limits on food.
I will feed any child that's hungry but you have to be careful not to let
your house turn into the "free food bank" as my DH often refers to this one. I
once found my next door neighbor child standing in my front door handing out 24
ounce bottles of soda to every child within blocks that came and asked for
it, (he came in through the kitchen door while we were gone) he was nine at the
time. He thought it was a good thing to do since his Mom wouldn't let him
give out his food and drinks to the neighborhood...
My only advice it to either hide it (which always feels wrong and stingy when
I do it) or set ground rules early (which is hard when you don't have them
for your own and your kids might not understand) or limit the number of children
at your house to a couple at a time (which seems to punish your own children
too).
I look forward to "hearing" creative ways others deal with this. Sometimes it
still is a bit of an issue here, especially with DH, I just mostly raise my
eyebrows at them and it stops anymore trips to the cupboard or fridge or
freezer. Once they know you are watching them, suddenly they get a grip on
themselves, SOMETIMES.
glena
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writes:
> We are looking for ways to live with this situation. I am still lettingFor younger kids I'm not sure other that what you are doing. I did at one
> go of many issues with regard to foods and eating. I have a ways to go.
> I still make judgement comments at times to my own children, but am
> more aware and trying to weed these poison attitudes out of my system.
> The neighborhood kids scarfing all our food, esp. "treats" is
> frustrating and expensive. I am trying to have things available like
> popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
> ideas?
>
point have to hide snacks, sodas, etc., when my boys were teenagers. There
might be fifteen or twenty teenagers here and maybe three or four were
disrespectful enough that if there were four or five cases of soda downstairs, they
thought they HAD to drink it all because they COULD.
The final straw was a couple hundred dollars worth of food disappearing in a
day... no one can afford that every day. My kids starting seeing that if they
had disrespectful kids here (usually a friend of someone else who tagged
along with someone else that was here) and they drank up all the sodas, juices,
Gatorades and ate all the sandwich stuff, snack stuff and even the FOOD in the
freezer, then they were the ones that suffered because that amount might very
well have lasted them for weeks.
They would tell their friends NOT to bring so and so over anymore, but often
times when they were driving, they show up because so and so was here and
proceed to indulge in everything they could get, without an invitation.
My kids were sensitive to this and before this really bad summer was over all
non perishable snacks and stuff were in MY bedroom closet. I hated that, the
kids hated that. It seemed so selfish and was really because of a very small
amount of their friends.
Finally one day my DH came home and caught some kid rummaging through my
bedroom because he had seen the kids go in and come out with sodas so he (in his
disrespectful manner) was helping himself.
He made it CLEAR that this is NOT a free food bank, it's NOT a buffet and
it's NOT their home, so if they are not OFFERED anything, then don't take it or
look for it.
It was kinda mortifying but he had enough, so had we. Guess what they
"offenders" were not at all phased by it, they somehow feel it wasn't meant for
THEM, after all they are just friends of whoever, not my kid.
It can get ugly, I'm not sure of a good way to head it off. Don't get me
wrong we have lots of kids here all the time and I feed them, I cook specifically
for them, but respectful kids, kind kids, kids who are FRIENDS to my kids.
Kids who don't think they should load up their pockets with bottles of soda to
take with them, or just call other people to come hang out at my house.
We let it go to far for too long when we moved here and the kids got older.
It's hard to limit other kids when yours don't need/don't get limits on food.
I will feed any child that's hungry but you have to be careful not to let
your house turn into the "free food bank" as my DH often refers to this one. I
once found my next door neighbor child standing in my front door handing out 24
ounce bottles of soda to every child within blocks that came and asked for
it, (he came in through the kitchen door while we were gone) he was nine at the
time. He thought it was a good thing to do since his Mom wouldn't let him
give out his food and drinks to the neighborhood...
My only advice it to either hide it (which always feels wrong and stingy when
I do it) or set ground rules early (which is hard when you don't have them
for your own and your kids might not understand) or limit the number of children
at your house to a couple at a time (which seems to punish your own children
too).
I look forward to "hearing" creative ways others deal with this. Sometimes it
still is a bit of an issue here, especially with DH, I just mostly raise my
eyebrows at them and it stops anymore trips to the cupboard or fridge or
freezer. Once they know you are watching them, suddenly they get a grip on
themselves, SOMETIMES.
glena
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Gerard Westenberg
<<I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas?>>>
I also ask the kids who are visiting daily if they can bring some of their own food to share.
And, for dealing with food issues - all foods equal, no obsessing, acceptance of our own bodies and passing on these ideals to our dc - I highly recommend the book "Fed Up" by Dr Wendy Oliver-Pyatt. Okay, I disagree with her point of putting limits on TV/computers and with her idea of not eating and watching a moive - we do this all the time! But its very good at looking critically at our culture's views on "good and bad" foods and the "perfect" body and on being with these ideas with our kids ...Leonie
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popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas?>>>
I also ask the kids who are visiting daily if they can bring some of their own food to share.
And, for dealing with food issues - all foods equal, no obsessing, acceptance of our own bodies and passing on these ideals to our dc - I highly recommend the book "Fed Up" by Dr Wendy Oliver-Pyatt. Okay, I disagree with her point of putting limits on TV/computers and with her idea of not eating and watching a moive - we do this all the time! But its very good at looking critically at our culture's views on "good and bad" foods and the "perfect" body and on being with these ideas with our kids ...Leonie
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Have A Nice Day!
I also ask the kids who are visiting daily if they can bring some of their own food to share. <<<<<
That is a good idea! I'll have to pass that one along.
Kristen
That is a good idea! I'll have to pass that one along.
Kristen
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerard Westenberg
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: TV/food
<<I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas?>>>
I also ask the kids who are visiting daily if they can bring some of their own food to share.
And, for dealing with food issues - all foods equal, no obsessing, acceptance of our own bodies and passing on these ideals to our dc - I highly recommend the book "Fed Up" by Dr Wendy Oliver-Pyatt. Okay, I disagree with her point of putting limits on TV/computers and with her idea of not eating and watching a moive - we do this all the time! But its very good at looking critically at our culture's views on "good and bad" foods and the "perfect" body and on being with these ideas with our kids ...Leonie
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In a message dated 6/5/2003 8:32:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
it's no big deal, but these kids that aren't familiar with no restrictions come
along and just start honking down like mad.
I don't mind feeding them. I DO mind one or two kids wiping out two batches
of cookies, so I put stuff away sometimes.
I know one neighbor girl really loves yogurt and her Mom doesn't buy it, so
she always has a yogurt or two...no biggie. And she loves apples. But when it
comes to more expensive ingredients I will hide stuff. Haven't dealt with any
rude teens, so far all the older kids are really neat people and we enjoy
having them over. Actually, all of their friends are likeable, it's just the two
neighbor kids that tend to go nuts over any kind of "treat". But they don't get
a lot of parental interaction, I mostly feel bad for them and want our home
to be a haven.
Ren
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[email protected] writes:
> I will feed any child that's hungry but you have to be careful not to letI agree. It's really frustrating when your own children are used to it and
> your house turn into the "free food bank" as my DH often refers to this one.
it's no big deal, but these kids that aren't familiar with no restrictions come
along and just start honking down like mad.
I don't mind feeding them. I DO mind one or two kids wiping out two batches
of cookies, so I put stuff away sometimes.
I know one neighbor girl really loves yogurt and her Mom doesn't buy it, so
she always has a yogurt or two...no biggie. And she loves apples. But when it
comes to more expensive ingredients I will hide stuff. Haven't dealt with any
rude teens, so far all the older kids are really neat people and we enjoy
having them over. Actually, all of their friends are likeable, it's just the two
neighbor kids that tend to go nuts over any kind of "treat". But they don't get
a lot of parental interaction, I mostly feel bad for them and want our home
to be a haven.
Ren
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[email protected]
In a message dated 6/5/03 2:54:07 PM, fuerst@... writes:
<< I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas? >>
Sliced apples.
On-sale and then watered-down juice?
Sandra
<< I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas? >>
Sliced apples.
On-sale and then watered-down juice?
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/5/03 2:54:07 PM, fuerst@... writes:
<< I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas? >>
The day-old-bread stores here have things like pretzel sticks and snack mixes
pretty cheap.
<< I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas? >>
The day-old-bread stores here have things like pretzel sticks and snack mixes
pretty cheap.
nellebelle
On hot summer days, I sometimes make kool-aid slushies. I buy the
unsweetened kool-aid when it's on sale (10 or 12 packs for $1). I mix it
with 1/2 cup sugar, instead of the 1 cup called for. I add only half the
water, then put it in the blender with ice for a slushy or "slurpee"
consistency.
This treat is far cheaper than popsicles and has less carbohydrate than
apple juice. Plus, it gets really hot here so it's a good way to get fluid
into the kids.
I just wish I could find a way to do this without the artificial color.
That is my pet peeve in food. I notice they are adding color to the farm
raised salmon now.
Mary Ellen
unsweetened kool-aid when it's on sale (10 or 12 packs for $1). I mix it
with 1/2 cup sugar, instead of the 1 cup called for. I add only half the
water, then put it in the blender with ice for a slushy or "slurpee"
consistency.
This treat is far cheaper than popsicles and has less carbohydrate than
apple juice. Plus, it gets really hot here so it's a good way to get fluid
into the kids.
I just wish I could find a way to do this without the artificial color.
That is my pet peeve in food. I notice they are adding color to the farm
raised salmon now.
Mary Ellen
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In a message dated 6/5/2003 9:53:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
litlrooh@... writes:
because their parents didn't buy it at home. (and not in most cases because of
money per say but saving for the adult trip to Ireland or the cruise or the
payment on the escalade and the lexus, stuff like that)
That's been my experience anyway.
glena
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litlrooh@... writes:
> also ask the kids who are visiting daily if they can bring some of theirprobably. I was always torn knowing some of these kids were wolfing down food here
> own food to share. <<<<<
>
>
> That is a good idea! I'll have to pass that one along.
>
> They don't have food to share, that's why they are eating yours most
because their parents didn't buy it at home. (and not in most cases because of
money per say but saving for the adult trip to Ireland or the cruise or the
payment on the escalade and the lexus, stuff like that)
That's been my experience anyway.
glena
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Rebecca DeLong
I don't know if this will help, but here's what I did this morning. This will, hopefully, get us through the weekend, with my little brother over today-sunday. And a group of very hungry adults over for gameing on sun.
We hit the produce store and bought a bunch of veggies and fruit, whatever was on sale and the kids requests. I spent a while cutting up the veggies, cubing up some cheese, also on sale, and putting the fruit in fridge to get cold. I made some popcorn and put it in a few different snack size bags. I did the same with some almost empty bags of chips and pretzles. I put all the snack bags in a basket where the kids, and adults, can get to them. The fruit, veggies, and cheese are also kept on a shelf in containers where the kids can get to them asd I can easily throw together a 'monkey platter' - just one of Sandras great ideas, my kids and company love this.
I found a couple of boxes of jello, gelatin and pudding that I had forgotten about. I made up the pudding added a little whip cream and poured it into cups and poped it in the freeze, viola, the pudding pops that the kids wanted and we just didn't have the money for. I also made up the jello added a little flat soda that was in the back of the fridge and poured it into muffin tins and into the freezer they went. I also made them some juice pops with juice and the little bit of soda that was left, they went farther that way.
I also try to put together small containers of dips, peanut butter, salad dressing, yogurt, hummas-if I've made any. things like that so they can dip their fruit, veggies, and chips in.
I've noticed that amounts is important to kids, well, at least to mine. If a huge bag of chips is sitting there, they just keep snacking, if I've taken the time to make smaller portions they know they can go get more if they are still hungry but don't feel the need to keep eating. (we stoped restricting food about 6-7 months ago). It is also really important to my kids to each have they're own bag, plate, bowl whatever, so breaking things up also helps with that.
I don't know if this helped at all, I seem to have rambled a bit. :)
Rebecca
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 6/5/03 2:54:07 PM, fuerst@... writes:
<< I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas? >>
Sliced apples.
On-sale and then watered-down juice?
Sandra
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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We hit the produce store and bought a bunch of veggies and fruit, whatever was on sale and the kids requests. I spent a while cutting up the veggies, cubing up some cheese, also on sale, and putting the fruit in fridge to get cold. I made some popcorn and put it in a few different snack size bags. I did the same with some almost empty bags of chips and pretzles. I put all the snack bags in a basket where the kids, and adults, can get to them. The fruit, veggies, and cheese are also kept on a shelf in containers where the kids can get to them asd I can easily throw together a 'monkey platter' - just one of Sandras great ideas, my kids and company love this.
I found a couple of boxes of jello, gelatin and pudding that I had forgotten about. I made up the pudding added a little whip cream and poured it into cups and poped it in the freeze, viola, the pudding pops that the kids wanted and we just didn't have the money for. I also made up the jello added a little flat soda that was in the back of the fridge and poured it into muffin tins and into the freezer they went. I also made them some juice pops with juice and the little bit of soda that was left, they went farther that way.
I also try to put together small containers of dips, peanut butter, salad dressing, yogurt, hummas-if I've made any. things like that so they can dip their fruit, veggies, and chips in.
I've noticed that amounts is important to kids, well, at least to mine. If a huge bag of chips is sitting there, they just keep snacking, if I've taken the time to make smaller portions they know they can go get more if they are still hungry but don't feel the need to keep eating. (we stoped restricting food about 6-7 months ago). It is also really important to my kids to each have they're own bag, plate, bowl whatever, so breaking things up also helps with that.
I don't know if this helped at all, I seem to have rambled a bit. :)
Rebecca
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 6/5/03 2:54:07 PM, fuerst@... writes:
<< I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas? >>
Sliced apples.
On-sale and then watered-down juice?
Sandra
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Susan Fuerst
Thanks for all the great ideas on this. I'm making a little "snack
file" from these replies to assist me on those low functioning brain
days (lots of those lately!)
Susan
-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca DeLong [mailto:elfmama@...]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 4:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: TV/food
I don't know if this will help, but here's what I did this morning. This
will, hopefully, get us through the weekend, with my little brother over
today-sunday. And a group of very hungry adults over for gameing on sun.
We hit the produce store and bought a bunch of veggies and fruit,
whatever was on sale and the kids requests. I spent a while cutting up
the veggies, cubing up some cheese, also on sale, and putting the fruit
in fridge to get cold. I made some popcorn and put it in a few different
snack size bags. I did the same with some almost empty bags of chips and
pretzles. I put all the snack bags in a basket where the kids, and
adults, can get to them. The fruit, veggies, and cheese are also kept on
a shelf in containers where the kids can get to them asd I can easily
throw together a 'monkey platter' - just one of Sandras great ideas, my
kids and company love this.
I found a couple of boxes of jello, gelatin and pudding that I had
forgotten about. I made up the pudding added a little whip cream and
poured it into cups and poped it in the freeze, viola, the pudding pops
that the kids wanted and we just didn't have the money for. I also made
up the jello added a little flat soda that was in the back of the fridge
and poured it into muffin tins and into the freezer they went. I also
made them some juice pops with juice and the little bit of soda that was
left, they went farther that way.
I also try to put together small containers of dips, peanut butter,
salad dressing, yogurt, hummas-if I've made any. things like that so
they can dip their fruit, veggies, and chips in.
I've noticed that amounts is important to kids, well, at least to mine.
If a huge bag of chips is sitting there, they just keep snacking, if
I've taken the time to make smaller portions they know they can go get
more if they are still hungry but don't feel the need to keep eating.
(we stoped restricting food about 6-7 months ago). It is also really
important to my kids to each have they're own bag, plate, bowl whatever,
so breaking things up also helps with that.
I don't know if this helped at all, I seem to have rambled a bit. :)
Rebecca
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 6/5/03 2:54:07 PM, fuerst@... writes:
<< I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas? >>
Sliced apples.
On-sale and then watered-down juice?
Sandra
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file" from these replies to assist me on those low functioning brain
days (lots of those lately!)
Susan
-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca DeLong [mailto:elfmama@...]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 4:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: TV/food
I don't know if this will help, but here's what I did this morning. This
will, hopefully, get us through the weekend, with my little brother over
today-sunday. And a group of very hungry adults over for gameing on sun.
We hit the produce store and bought a bunch of veggies and fruit,
whatever was on sale and the kids requests. I spent a while cutting up
the veggies, cubing up some cheese, also on sale, and putting the fruit
in fridge to get cold. I made some popcorn and put it in a few different
snack size bags. I did the same with some almost empty bags of chips and
pretzles. I put all the snack bags in a basket where the kids, and
adults, can get to them. The fruit, veggies, and cheese are also kept on
a shelf in containers where the kids can get to them asd I can easily
throw together a 'monkey platter' - just one of Sandras great ideas, my
kids and company love this.
I found a couple of boxes of jello, gelatin and pudding that I had
forgotten about. I made up the pudding added a little whip cream and
poured it into cups and poped it in the freeze, viola, the pudding pops
that the kids wanted and we just didn't have the money for. I also made
up the jello added a little flat soda that was in the back of the fridge
and poured it into muffin tins and into the freezer they went. I also
made them some juice pops with juice and the little bit of soda that was
left, they went farther that way.
I also try to put together small containers of dips, peanut butter,
salad dressing, yogurt, hummas-if I've made any. things like that so
they can dip their fruit, veggies, and chips in.
I've noticed that amounts is important to kids, well, at least to mine.
If a huge bag of chips is sitting there, they just keep snacking, if
I've taken the time to make smaller portions they know they can go get
more if they are still hungry but don't feel the need to keep eating.
(we stoped restricting food about 6-7 months ago). It is also really
important to my kids to each have they're own bag, plate, bowl whatever,
so breaking things up also helps with that.
I don't know if this helped at all, I seem to have rambled a bit. :)
Rebecca
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 6/5/03 2:54:07 PM, fuerst@... writes:
<< I am trying to have things available like
popcorn, homemade cookies, etc, which are less expensive. Any other
ideas? >>
Sliced apples.
On-sale and then watered-down juice?
Sandra
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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Olga
Rebecca,
What a bunch of great ideas! Not just for compnay, but for daily
living. I, like many here, are trying to undo food restrictions on
ourselves. I am still trying to get off these 25 baby pounds are
here we are ready to try again. How the hell did that happen??
Anyway, I am going to try some of these ideas here as well.
Olga :)
--- In [email protected], Rebecca DeLong
<elfmama@s...> wrote:
brother over today-sunday. And a group of very hungry adults over for
gameing on sun.
up the veggies, cubing up some cheese, also on sale, and putting the
fruit in fridge to get cold. I made some popcorn and put it in a few
different snack size bags. I did the same with some almost empty bags
of chips and pretzles. I put all the snack bags in a basket where the
kids, and adults, can get to them. The fruit, veggies, and cheese are
also kept on a shelf in containers where the kids can get to them asd
I can easily throw together a 'monkey platter' - just one of Sandras
great ideas, my kids and company love this.
poured it into cups and poped it in the freeze, viola, the pudding
pops that the kids wanted and we just didn't have the money for. I
also made up the jello added a little flat soda that was in the back
of the fridge and poured it into muffin tins and into the freezer
they went. I also made them some juice pops with juice and the little
bit of soda that was left, they went farther that way.
they can dip their fruit, veggies, and chips in.
snacking, if I've taken the time to make smaller portions they know
they can go get more if they are still hungry but don't feel the need
to keep eating. (we stoped restricting food about 6-7 months ago). It
is also really important to my kids to each have they're own bag,
plate, bowl whatever, so breaking things up also helps with that.
What a bunch of great ideas! Not just for compnay, but for daily
living. I, like many here, are trying to undo food restrictions on
ourselves. I am still trying to get off these 25 baby pounds are
here we are ready to try again. How the hell did that happen??
Anyway, I am going to try some of these ideas here as well.
Olga :)
--- In [email protected], Rebecca DeLong
<elfmama@s...> wrote:
> I don't know if this will help, but here's what I did this morning.This will, hopefully, get us through the weekend, with my little
brother over today-sunday. And a group of very hungry adults over for
gameing on sun.
>whatever was on sale and the kids requests. I spent a while cutting
> We hit the produce store and bought a bunch of veggies and fruit,
up the veggies, cubing up some cheese, also on sale, and putting the
fruit in fridge to get cold. I made some popcorn and put it in a few
different snack size bags. I did the same with some almost empty bags
of chips and pretzles. I put all the snack bags in a basket where the
kids, and adults, can get to them. The fruit, veggies, and cheese are
also kept on a shelf in containers where the kids can get to them asd
I can easily throw together a 'monkey platter' - just one of Sandras
great ideas, my kids and company love this.
>forgotten about. I made up the pudding added a little whip cream and
> I found a couple of boxes of jello, gelatin and pudding that I had
poured it into cups and poped it in the freeze, viola, the pudding
pops that the kids wanted and we just didn't have the money for. I
also made up the jello added a little flat soda that was in the back
of the fridge and poured it into muffin tins and into the freezer
they went. I also made them some juice pops with juice and the little
bit of soda that was left, they went farther that way.
>salad dressing, yogurt, hummas-if I've made any. things like that so
> I also try to put together small containers of dips, peanut butter,
they can dip their fruit, veggies, and chips in.
>mine. If a huge bag of chips is sitting there, they just keep
> I've noticed that amounts is important to kids, well, at least to
snacking, if I've taken the time to make smaller portions they know
they can go get more if they are still hungry but don't feel the need
to keep eating. (we stoped restricting food about 6-7 months ago). It
is also really important to my kids to each have they're own bag,
plate, bowl whatever, so breaking things up also helps with that.
>
> I don't know if this helped at all, I seem to have rambled a bit. :)
> Rebecca
>
Gerard Westenberg
> They don't have food to share, that's why they are eating yours mostprobably. >>
We found that they do bring food to share - a packet of chips from home, a bottle of lemonade, a bag of fruit. They did have food at home - they are at our house for the fun and companionship. Kids not having food at home was not our experience - it was more that they just ate our food all the time cos they are here all the time.
Occasionally bringing food to share has helped/worked for us...Leonie
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[email protected]
In a message dated 6/6/2003 8:57:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
westen@... writes:
gladly bring food, but not usually the ones who eat us out of house and home. The
kids who are here all the time are very respectful and kind and I don't mind
feeding them at all. It's the child who is usually a friend of a friend who
is just remotely "related" to my kids or their activities that behave that way,
probably because they know they don't come regularly and so they don't care
what if they are disrespectful or what others think.
I could be totally wrong and they do it for other reasons. Most of the
"older" kids this happens at nights after most of us are in bed and the nearly
grown ones are playing video games and watching movies, listening to music and
such. Someone will be here and someone else is looking for them so they show up
to play or watch and they wander upstairs and help themselves, sometimes to
EVERYTHING they can find.
It's not so bad now, my 18 year old has begun to speak out about others being
disrespectful in HIS home and will tell his good friends NOT to bring
__________ back over again.
Tonight we had five extra kids for dinner, all very respectful and good
friends of my kids. I didn't know they were going to be here when I planned
dinner, but my son got a new car so they all had to come and oohh and ahhh over it.
It was dinner time, so I had my oldest run by the store on the way over and
get me more potatoes and steaks and they all had a great time with dinner on
the deck.
Now, if I can just talk them into helping CLEAN, it will be a GREAT evening!
I've loved hearing the suggestions that you all have for snacks and the
little baggies and such. I'm going to try that next week with the little neighbor
children that like to run in and grab treats, it's much better than them
sticking half washed hands into the chip bag too. GREAT IDEAS!
Thanks for sharing.
glena
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westen@... writes:
> We found that they do bring food to share - a packet of chips from home, aI probably answered that too incompletely, there ARE some kids who would
> bottle of lemonade, a bag of fruit. They did have food at home - they are at
> our house for the fun and companionship. Kids not having food at home was not
> our experience - it was more that they just ate our food all the time cos
> they are here all the time.
>
> Occasionally bringing food to share has helped/worked for us...Leonie
>
>
gladly bring food, but not usually the ones who eat us out of house and home. The
kids who are here all the time are very respectful and kind and I don't mind
feeding them at all. It's the child who is usually a friend of a friend who
is just remotely "related" to my kids or their activities that behave that way,
probably because they know they don't come regularly and so they don't care
what if they are disrespectful or what others think.
I could be totally wrong and they do it for other reasons. Most of the
"older" kids this happens at nights after most of us are in bed and the nearly
grown ones are playing video games and watching movies, listening to music and
such. Someone will be here and someone else is looking for them so they show up
to play or watch and they wander upstairs and help themselves, sometimes to
EVERYTHING they can find.
It's not so bad now, my 18 year old has begun to speak out about others being
disrespectful in HIS home and will tell his good friends NOT to bring
__________ back over again.
Tonight we had five extra kids for dinner, all very respectful and good
friends of my kids. I didn't know they were going to be here when I planned
dinner, but my son got a new car so they all had to come and oohh and ahhh over it.
It was dinner time, so I had my oldest run by the store on the way over and
get me more potatoes and steaks and they all had a great time with dinner on
the deck.
Now, if I can just talk them into helping CLEAN, it will be a GREAT evening!
I've loved hearing the suggestions that you all have for snacks and the
little baggies and such. I'm going to try that next week with the little neighbor
children that like to run in and grab treats, it's much better than them
sticking half washed hands into the chip bag too. GREAT IDEAS!
Thanks for sharing.
glena
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Rebecca DeLong
I wanted to let anyone trying the frozen jello in the muffin tins, if they get really good and frozen, they won't come out of the tin. We had this happen, the kids we're all a little sad that they had to wait about 10-20min for them to soften enough to pull the paper out.
But, this was everyone favorite, the kids loved it!
Another side note.... if you replace the cold water when your making jello and add vodka, pour into small paper cups and freeze or refrigerate for a couple hours you have jello shooters, we make these for just about every party. YUMMY.
Watermelon and black cherry are my faves. My friend swears by lemon or lime with tequila. Anothre friend likes coconut cream jello and rum.
;-)
Rebecca
Olga <britcontoo@...> wrote:
Rebecca,
What a bunch of great ideas! Not just for compnay, but for daily
living. I, like many here, are trying to undo food restrictions on
ourselves. I am still trying to get off these 25 baby pounds are
here we are ready to try again. How the hell did that happen??
Anyway, I am going to try some of these ideas here as well.
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
But, this was everyone favorite, the kids loved it!
Another side note.... if you replace the cold water when your making jello and add vodka, pour into small paper cups and freeze or refrigerate for a couple hours you have jello shooters, we make these for just about every party. YUMMY.
Watermelon and black cherry are my faves. My friend swears by lemon or lime with tequila. Anothre friend likes coconut cream jello and rum.
;-)
Rebecca
Olga <britcontoo@...> wrote:
Rebecca,
What a bunch of great ideas! Not just for compnay, but for daily
living. I, like many here, are trying to undo food restrictions on
ourselves. I am still trying to get off these 25 baby pounds are
here we are ready to try again. How the hell did that happen??
Anyway, I am going to try some of these ideas here as well.
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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