coyote's corner

I need an opinion on this new bumper sticker

"School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break a child's spirit."
MLK


Thanks,
Janis

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In a message dated 5-20-2003 10:31:51 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
jana@... writes:

>
> "School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break a child's
> spirit."
> MLK
>
>

:::jumping up and down, waving frantically::: I'll take one!!
diana,
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losing it's understanding of being human" John Trudell


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In a message dated 5/20/03 10:31:59 AM, jana@... writes:

<< "School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break a child's
spirit." >>

I like the message. But I think they usually break them by fifth grade.

Maybe school is more efficient than you're remembering! By the 13th year,
they're up to working on breaking the stunted but emerging ADULT spirit!

Sandra

Kelly Lenhart

Except I don't think it really takes that long, sadly.

We just got a car after four years without one and I rushed out for witchy
bumperstickers for it. So what did I find?

Life is the school.
Love is the lesson.

-grin-

Kelly
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Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] opinion


I need an opinion on this new bumper sticker

"School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break a child's
spirit."
MLK


Thanks,
Janis

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<<In a message dated 5-20-2003 10:31:51 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
jana@... writes:

"School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break a child's
spirit."
MLK>>


In all honesty, I think the schools can do it in less!!

Mary B

coyote's corner

Actually, this was said by Martin Luther King.

That's why there's a difference!! It was all those years ago...school has become more 'efficient'
Janis
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In a message dated 5/20/03 10:31:59 AM, jana@... writes:

<< "School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break a child's
spirit." >>

I like the message. But I think they usually break them by fifth grade.

Maybe school is more efficient than you're remembering! By the 13th year,
they're up to working on breaking the stunted but emerging ADULT spirit!

Sandra

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coyote's corner

I agree....the "cool" part is that Martin Luther King said it....all those years ago.
Janis
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From: Kelly Lenhart
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] opinion


Except I don't think it really takes that long, sadly.

We just got a car after four years without one and I rushed out for witchy
bumperstickers for it. So what did I find?

Life is the school.
Love is the lesson.

-grin-

Kelly
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From: "coyote's corner" <jana@...>
To: "Unschooling-dotcom@yahoogroups. com"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 12:28 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] opinion


I need an opinion on this new bumper sticker

"School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break a child's
spirit."
MLK


Thanks,
Janis

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Tia Leschke

>
> That's why there's a difference!! It was all those years ago...school has
become more 'efficient'

I think they had broken mine by about grade 3. That would have been 1956.
Took me a long time to get my spirit back.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
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In a message dated 5/20/2003 1:55:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> "School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break a child's
> spirit." >>
>
> I like the message. But I think they usually break them by fifth grade.
>

I've always thought that it's a little closer to 2nd-3rd grade, around the
time that school stops being fun and the kids who used to feel sorry for
homeschoolers become envious!
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Mary

From: <amycats2@...>

<<I've always thought that it's a little closer to 2nd-3rd grade, around the
time that school stops being fun and the kids who used to feel sorry for
homeschoolers become envious!>>



For Tara it was 3rd grade. I thought at the time it was just the teacher. In
4th grade I wasn't so sure. By 5th grade I was very sure.

For me, I remember vividly, it was the 6th grade. Just totally squashed me.
But I fought like hell after that and became a rebel. It served me well.

Mary B

Tammy T.

I think for me it was 7th. The school had alot of students, I was used to
one teacher and maybe 15 kids in class, but now there were 7 different
classes with 7 different teachers. I felt like a speck. A helpless speck.
We were heavily critisized when we didn't "get" something. Those (like me)
who couldn't take it, were labled shy and remedial. And so we were.

I went to a smaller private school in 9th through 12th, which was better on
a social end, we interacted with 6th graders to adult---but by then I had
forgotten how to learn...so I guess it didn't really matter whether I
switched to a small school or stayed where I was at that point.

tammy

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Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 20:59:09
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From: <amycats2@...>

<<I've always thought that it's a little closer to 2nd-3rd grade, around the
time that school stops being fun and the kids who used to feel sorry for
homeschoolers become envious!>>



For Tara it was 3rd grade. I thought at the time it was just the teacher. In
4th grade I wasn't so sure. By 5th grade I was very sure.

For me, I remember vividly, it was the 6th grade. Just totally squashed me.
But I fought like hell after that and became a rebel. It served me well.

Mary B




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Have A Nice Day!

I didn't know it at the time, but in retrospect...I remember seeing the bewilderment and fright in my son's eyes in preschool. And it just went downhill from there.

Kristen
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From: <amycats2@...>

<<I've always thought that it's a little closer to 2nd-3rd grade, around the
time that school stops being fun and the kids who used to feel sorry for
homeschoolers become envious!>>



For Tara it was 3rd grade. I thought at the time it was just the teacher. In
4th grade I wasn't so sure. By 5th grade I was very sure.

For me, I remember vividly, it was the 6th grade. Just totally squashed me.
But I fought like hell after that and became a rebel. It served me well.

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coyote's corner

I agree......same here!
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>
> That's why there's a difference!! It was all those years ago...school has
become more 'efficient'

I think they had broken mine by about grade 3. That would have been 1956.
Took me a long time to get my spirit back.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
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Tim and Maureen

my son went to preschool and was forced to give up the stool he was sitting on for the teacher(kids were to sit on the floor) and decided preschool was not for him. I remember being puzzled but happy and somewhat amused that my 4 year old could see injustice so easily.

Maureen
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I didn't know it at the time, but in retrospect...I remember seeing the bewilderment and fright in my son's eyes in preschool. And it just went downhill from there.

Kristen
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From: <amycats2@...>

<<I've always thought that it's a little closer to 2nd-3rd grade, around the
time that school stops being fun and the kids who used to feel sorry for
homeschoolers become envious!>>



For Tara it was 3rd grade. I thought at the time it was just the teacher. In
4th grade I wasn't so sure. By 5th grade I was very sure.

For me, I remember vividly, it was the 6th grade. Just totally squashed me.
But I fought like hell after that and became a rebel. It served me well.

Mary B




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Heidi

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/20/03 10:31:59 AM, jana@c... writes:
>
> << "School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break
a child's
> spirit." >>
>
> I like the message. But I think they usually break them by fifth
grade.

third grade for me :(

Heidic

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In a message dated 5/20/2003 12:44:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
HaHaMommy@... writes:


> "School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break a child's
> > spirit."
> > MLK

Is that a Martin Luther King quote? Very cool.
Nancy


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coyote's corner

Yes, Martin Luther King said that. Imagine how different our world would be if he & Robert Kennedy hadn't been murdered.
Janis
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In a message dated 5/20/2003 12:44:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
HaHaMommy@... writes:


> "School Takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to break a child's
> > spirit."
> > MLK

Is that a Martin Luther King quote? Very cool.
Nancy


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In a message dated 5/21/2003 3:52:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jana@... writes:

> Yes, Martin Luther King said that. Imagine how different our world would be
> if he &Robert Kennedy hadn't been murdered.
> Janis

Wow, I thought MLK was Martin Luther King but I was like Nahh.
I actually thought it was a typo. I was going to say too bold but knowing
that MLK said it that would be quite an impressive bumper sticker.

Laura D
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