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In a message dated 5/19/03 5:08:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
abtleo@... writes:

> I'm interested in things that require thought,
> and I talk to my son for the fun of it. The other day, somebody told me
> that was a wierd thing to do. I'd never realized.
>

I think that whomever said that talking to your kids was a weird thing to do
is the epitome of weird.

Teresa


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Alan & Brenda Leonard

5/19/03 20:09:

> I haven't lost any friends outright. But watching how people treat children
> has made me not associate with some people as much. A year or so ago I was
> feeling quite alone. Like I was the only one that could see children as
> people with feelings and ideas all their own.

I can't say I've necessarily lost any friends over unschooling, either.
Mainly I just don't make new ones when we move new places. I'm too wierd
for most people, I guess. I'm interested in things that require thought,
and I talk to my son for the fun of it. The other day, somebody told me
that was a wierd thing to do. I'd never realized.

Interestingly enough, I've discovered lately that people without kids are
far more likely to be good friends for me. They have interests besides kids
because they haven't got kids, and they haven't mastered the parent vs. kid
culture, so they treat my son better than most parents do. Somehow society
seems to expect that parents socialize with other parents.

brenda

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In a message dated 5/19/2003 5:08:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
abtleo@... writes:
> Interestingly enough, I've discovered lately that people without kids are
> far more likely to be good friends for me. They have interests besides
> kids
> because they haven't got kids, and they haven't mastered the parent vs. kid
> culture, so they treat my son better than most parents do. Somehow society
> seems to expect that parents socialize with other parents.

Me too. We have several childless couples and singles who REALLY *get*
unschooling---the lifestyle and everything. A few of them will help at the
conference. Two are school teachers and one is a former teacher. Go figure.
But they *get* it. And they treat my boys as *people*.

~Kelly


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Deborah Lewis

***We have several childless couples and singles who REALLY *get*
unschooling---the lifestyle and everything. A few of them will help at
the
conference. Two are school teachers and one is a former teacher. Go
figure.
But they *get* it. And they treat my boys as *people*.***

A woman I met in January and became instant friends with understands
unschooling. She has no children, and twenty years ago decided she
wanted to learn stained glass. She didn't want to take a class so she
bought a few books and supplies and learned it. She makes a great
living doing custom windows.
When I was trying to explain unschooling she said "Oh! Just like I
learned stained glass!"
Just like that.<g>

She's right this minute floating in the Colorado river somewhere on her
way through the grand canyon.

Damned show off ! <g>

Deb L

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In a message dated 5/19/03 5:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
abtleo@... writes:

> , I've discovered lately that people without kids are
> far more likely to be good friends for me.

That is interesting because my husband and I were talking about this just
last night. We are still pondering the "what if something happens to the
both of us" question, with little in the way of answers yet. But we both
came to the conclusion that we need to be looking at family that does not
have children. My best friend and my niece are two that we are talking
about. All of our family that have children are so set in how children need
to be raised, all of them have such a disrespectful attitude toward children.
Totally believe that children need to be "filled up" with knowledge, have no
independent thought, should not be part of conversations and decision making,
etc., etc.

A couple of family members with no children do not seem to have that mind set
and would be more open to discussing alternative thinking.

Or maybe it has nothing to do with children, maybe it is just my family.
They do not seem to be the type to question societies "normals". "It has
always been done like this" is good enough for them.

Just my thoughts.
Pam G.


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