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In a message dated 5/8/03 8:28:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bunsofaluminum60@... writes:

> but if she'd been five in 94, her bday would have been 89, not 88

I said 89.. :-) ( I even rechecked..lol) Anna's was born in 89, and she is
13, BUT, her birthday is in October.. She will be 14 this year. Anyway, now
I really know how old Abigail is.

Yeah, check the site.. I don't nose around on there too much. Landon has
144 poems on there (yeah, I just checked) Here is my WWUD? or rather, what
is your opinion. OK , so Landon has been putting his poems up on this site
for a few years. Once, I asked him what his "screen name" is on the site so
I could read some of his poems..He said NO!. NO! I do not want you to read
my stuff. OK OK, so I didnt.. But I REALLY REALLY wanted to. And I was
thinking, heck, how will he ever know?? They are published for the public at
large... Why can't I read them too?? Then, another time, he forgot to sign
out of the site, and I saw his screen name and I couldn't resist, I read a
couple of his poems. ( Very intense, btw) I felt sooo guilty, like I had
sneaked in his journal or poked in his room or something. I didn't read
anymore. Today, in telling Heidi about the Starlite Cafe, and in recalling
Landon's poetic abilities, I got the urge again to read his poems. So,
SHOULD I??

Teresa



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Heidi

--- In [email protected], grlynbl@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/8/03 8:28:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> bunsofaluminum60@h... writes:
>
> > but if she'd been five in 94, her bday would have been 89, not 88
>
> I said 89.. :-) ( I even rechecked..lol)

yeah, that's what I meant: you got the year as 89 based on a publish
date of 94, and so said 89

btw, reading your kid's poetry...like you said, it's a public site.
But now that you've read it...heh heh heh...you can't comment on it
to him, or he'll KNOW. ;)

HeidiC

Jon and Rue Kream

Teresa said: "Why can't I read them too?? "

Rue: Because he asked you not to, and presumably you respect his feelings.

Teresa: "I felt sooo guilty"

Rue: I'd listen to that feeling.

Teresa: " So, SHOULD I?? "

Rue: Why don't you ask him again? Maybe he wouldn't mind now. If he does say no, I wouldn't read them. ~Rue

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lite2yu2000

There is a regular feature in the Oprah magazine where a famous
person is asked about their favorite books. This month, Michael Moore
mentions How Children Learn. What I found interesting about his
comments was he recommends Holt's books for teachers to read. I guess
he never got to the part where Holt became a homeschool advocate.
Anyway, I was glad to see Holt's books mentioned, especially because
for the most part, Oprah and everything to do with her is very much
in favor of the god almightly educational system. There is much I
love about her show and what she promotes, but education and raising
children, etc. are not one of them. But it is great to see John
Holt's name in such a mainstream publication. . . I guess!

Best,

Mary

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In a message dated 5/8/03 7:55:05 PM, mary@... writes:

<< But it is great to see John

Holt's name in such a mainstream publication. . . I guess! >>

Oh heck yes! Because IF anyone goes looking, they will find just a couple of
pro-school-REFORM books, and more natural learning and homeschooling books!
Tadaa!! He let a little light in and TRIED to aim and focus it, but those
books aren't always so easy to find. <g>

Thanks for letting us know of that mention. VERY cool!

Sandra

Fetteroll

on 5/8/03 8:58 PM, grlynbl@... at grlynbl@... wrote:

> I got the urge again to read his poems. So,
> SHOULD I??

And if he finds out that you've broken your promise he'll realize he can't
trust you.

And he will feel less comfortable posting his poetry there since he knows
you might look again -- you broke a promise once so what's to say you won't
break it again? -- so perhaps he won't post any more. Or he'll post only
poems that don't reveal anything about himself for fear you'll read them.

And both of those will probably have an effect on his ability to release
what he needs to release.

Joyce

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In a message dated 5/9/03 6:41:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
fetteroll@... writes:

> And if he finds out that you've broken your promise he'll realize he can't
> trust you.
>

Yeah, yeah, I know.. and thats why in over 4 years I havent read any of them
( Ok, except that one time, by 'accident", which he doesnt know about, and I
only read 2) But, I have to admit, I really want to read them. It would be
so much easier if he had them tucked away somewhere in his own private place.
But, I have to think of that little corner of the web as his own private
place..

Teresa


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In a message dated 5/9/03 6:38:31 AM, grlynbl@... writes:

<< But, I have to admit, I really want to read them. >>

You've said that, though.
You don't need our permission, and even if a bunch of people here said,
"Sure! Read them!" it would STILL be your very own personal decision.

Lots of my kids' friends post on a site called Dead Journals. I've read some
of that. It's WEIRD that kids do that. It's kind of an international slam
book, in a way (not quite, but slam books came to mind, and those are
horrible things). The idea of kids posting journals where others can read
them is pretty bizarre, and it doesn't have the same reality a locked box
under the bed has. So I'm not so sure the same privacy rules apply.

The internet is all new territory, and most of the ancient (fifteen year old)
"netiquette" was written by computer dweebs famous for lack of interpersonal
intelligence (a.k.a. "social skills") and they often don't even begin to
match up with common sense or etiquette in general.

Sandra

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mary@... writes:

<< There is much I
love about her show and what she promotes, but education and raising
children, etc. are not one of them. >>

There was a wonderful show she did titled "How Children Learn- and Why Some
Don't.

<<http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/tows_2002/tows_past_20020327.jhtml>>

http://www.oprah.com/tows/booksseen/2002/tows_book_20020327_mlevine.jhtml

""It's taken for granted in adult society that we cannot all be 'generalists'
skilled in every area of learning and mastery. Nevertheless, we apply
tremendous pressure to our children to be good at everything. They are
expected to shine in math, reading, writing, speaking, spelling,
memorization, comprehension, problem solving...and none of us adults can do
all this," observes Dr. Levine. Learning begins in school, but it doesn't end
there. Frustrating a child's desire to learn will have lifelong
repercussions. This frustration can be avoided if we understand that not
every child can do equally well in every type of learning. We must begin to
pay more attention to individual learning styles, to individual minds, urges
Dr. Levine, so that we can maximize children's learning potential. In A Mind
at a Time, he shows us how. "

Of course, unschoolers know this stuff already, *grin* but it's reaching
parents and teachers, and that's a good thing for kids.

Dr. Mel Levine wrote two books, A Mind at a Time and The Myth of Laziness.
They both look like good reads.

~Aimee

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In a message dated 5/9/03 12:10:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> It's kind of an international slam
> book, in a way (not quite, but slam books came to mind, and those are
> horrible things). The idea of kids posting journals where others can read
> them is pretty bizarre, and it doesn't have the same reality a locked box
> under the bed has. So I'm not so sure the same privacy rules apply.
>
>
I dont know what a slam book is..??? And, I do agree, posting personal
journals would be weird, especially if one used thier real names and the
names of all the parties involved.

Teresa


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