Winifred Haun + Dancers

I've had migraines since I was 7 years old, on and off. Mine are mostly
related to stress and tension. I tend to hold a lot of tension in my neck
and head and when life's too busy, I get the most crippling headaches.
The best "treatment" plan for me is too recognize when I'm about to get a
migraine and get a massage quickly. Also, acupuncture has helped, too. I
know not all migraines are stress related but, if I slow down, take care
of myself, get a massage or acupunture treatment (or both!), I can usually
avoid a serious headache. (I have seasonal allergies, as well, and spring
or fall is when I 'm most at risk for a headache.)

Wini



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A. Yates

Thanks Wini, and all that offered suggestions.
Went to the dr yesterday. He put me on imitrex. Didn't do it though.
Then I took a zebutol. It helped more, but I still had the headache.
We will experiment with medication I think and then maybe I will be able
to think more clearly about alternatives...... Really appreciate
everyone's input.
Ann

Winifred Haun + Dancers wrote:

> From: Winifred Haun + Dancers <wini@...>
>
> I've had migraines since I was 7 years old, on and off. Mine are
> mostly
> related to stress and tension. I tend to hold a lot of tension in my
> neck
> and head and when life's too busy, I get the most crippling headaches.
>
> The best "treatment" plan for me is too recognize when I'm about to
> get a
> migraine and get a massage quickly. Also, acupuncture has helped,
> too. I
> know not all migraines are stress related but, if I slow down, take
> care
> of myself, get a massage or acupunture treatment (or both!), I can
> usually
> avoid a serious headache. (I have seasonal allergies, as well, and
> spring
> or fall is when I 'm most at risk for a headache.)
>
> Wini
>
>
>
> _____________________________________
> WINIFRED HAUN & DANCERS
> 4225 N. Oakley
> Chicago, IL 60618
>
> 773-583-2995
>
> http://www.mcs.com/~wini/
> ______________________________________
>
>
>
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In a message dated 2/25/00 8:26:11 AM Central Standard Time,
hooperck@... writes:

<< hen I took a zebutol. >>


Hi,
I have a terrible time with migraines and have tried lots of different meds,
but I've never heard of zebutol. What is it? Is it a pain killer or is it
specifically for migraine like imitrex is? Imitrex never worked for me and
it made me feel "funny" besides. I take Midrin, which usually works if I
take enough of it. It makes me sleepy though, which is tough with the kids
at home and still too young to be completely independent - especially now
with baby Josephine. Recently my neuro had me try Amerge, which is fabulous.
It is in the same class as Imitrex, but it works much better for me. The
best part - absolutely NO side effects of any kind!!! For those really,
really awful migraines I take Percocet as well. The downside of that is that
Percocet tends to make the migraine nausea worse. Do you have "regular"
migraines and horrible migraines as well? Three or four times a year I get
one that is so bad it almost seems like a living thing in my body. It feels
creepy, as if it's a personal attack. (that sounds weird unless you get
those kind yourself, and then I'll bet you know what I mean!). Anyhow, I'd
be interested in knowing about Zebutol.
Thanks.

KIM
***runs with scissors***

A. Yates

Zebutal is a narcotic type drug. It isn't helping me all the way
either. It is to get me through the weekend until we can try a
different med. Immitrex isn't going to work for me either. I think
midrin is next to try.
My migraines are almost daily, but not that knock me flat. They are
very painful though. The light sensitivity is terrible.
If midrin doesn't do it, the dr suggested an antidepressant.
These are awful headaches. I do get one of those awful ones every so
often. Then I am hiding in bed under the covers just hoping for relief.

:Yuck!
A

epoxies

A.- been monitoring this site for quite awhile. I am the mother of 3,
two of which homeschool, or should I say unschool. In response to your
migraine questions, I think I can help. I have been a migraine sufferer
since the ripe old age of three. At least that is what I have been
told. I too am a daily migraine sufferer and have finally found
relief. I have tried all the conventional antidotes ex- ergotomines,
imitrex, and so on. I finally found a nuerologist who really knows his
meds. He has me taking a drug called Sibelium Capsules 5mg. one daily
(I take it before bed) and it does the trick. Technically it is known
as a calcium channel blocker. Now for the bad news. This med is only
available out of the country. I get it in Mexico. It is made by
Janssen Pharmacuetical, which is a large reputable drug company, in case
you didn't know. Also, I should mention that my dad is a physician and
if there was any risk with this drug I would not be taking it. It seems
the FDA just hasn't approved it for sales in the U.S. yet. In Mexico,
it is sold over the counter, like most other drugs are there, so it is
no problem getting it if you have a connection. Don't know where you
are located, but Canada probably has it too. I know of other people who
are also taking this and it has made the world of difference in their
lives. Mind you I still get the occasional migraines (in fact I woke
with one this morning) but with 3 excedrin, a dark room, and pressure on
my head I can usually get over it within a hour. I would really
question a dr. who wants to put you on antideppresants for migraine.
Just my $.02. Didn't mean to go on so long but I do know what you are
going through and wish you all the best. Shelley
A. Yates wrote:

>
>
> From: "A. Yates" <hooperck@...>
>
> Zebutal is a narcotic type drug. It isn't helping me all the way
> either. It is to get me through the weekend until we can try a
> different med. Immitrex isn't going to work for me either. I think
> midrin is next to try.
> My migraines are almost daily, but not that knock me flat. They are
> very painful though. The light sensitivity is terrible.
> If midrin doesn't do it, the dr suggested an antidepressant.
> These are awful headaches. I do get one of those awful ones every so
> often. Then I am hiding in bed under the covers just hoping for
> relief.
>
> :Yuck!
> A
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epoxies

obviously hit a nerve with you Kim...I was just trying to help...it has
been my experience that one of the main side effects of antidepressants
is headaches-Shelley

monkeycoop@... wrote:

>
>
> From: monkeycoop@...
>
> In a message dated 2/28/00 11:37:27 PM Central Standard Time,
> epoxies@... writes:
>
> << I would really
> question a dr. who wants to put you on antideppresants for migraine.
> >>
>
> The SSRI group of antidepressants has been clinically shown to
> decrease
> frequency of migraines. This doesn't have anything to do with
> depression;
> rather it's due to the drugs' effect in the brain. Zoloft stands out
> as one
> of the most effective. Another drug that helps prevent migraine is
> Topomaz.
> This is marketed as an anti-seizure drug but it's action in the brain
> makes
> it great for other things as well (including leveling off moods in
> bi-polar
> disorder and helping with post traumatic stress disorder). Drugs that
> act in
> the brain often have more than one good use. I wouldn't be afraid to
> use
> them for migraine if they are prescribed. I would compare that to an
> adult
> at high risk for heart attack, refusing to take a daily aspirin
> because
> "aspirin is for pain relief". As a migraine sufferer, I'm willing to
> try
> anything my doctor prescribes to help get rid of those nasty things.
> KIM
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In a message dated 2/28/00 11:37:27 PM Central Standard Time,
epoxies@... writes:

<< I would really
question a dr. who wants to put you on antideppresants for migraine. >>

The SSRI group of antidepressants has been clinically shown to decrease
frequency of migraines. This doesn't have anything to do with depression;
rather it's due to the drugs' effect in the brain. Zoloft stands out as one
of the most effective. Another drug that helps prevent migraine is Topomaz.
This is marketed as an anti-seizure drug but it's action in the brain makes
it great for other things as well (including leveling off moods in bi-polar
disorder and helping with post traumatic stress disorder). Drugs that act in
the brain often have more than one good use. I wouldn't be afraid to use
them for migraine if they are prescribed. I would compare that to an adult
at high risk for heart attack, refusing to take a daily aspirin because
"aspirin is for pain relief". As a migraine sufferer, I'm willing to try
anything my doctor prescribes to help get rid of those nasty things.
KIM

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In a message dated 2/29/00 6:05:23 PM Central Standard Time,
epoxies@... writes:

<< obviously hit a nerve with you Kim...I was just trying to help >>

Nope, you didn't hit a nerve with me. I would just hate for any migraine
sufferer to miss out on what could be an excellent source of relief because
they are feeling "wary" of their doctor prescribing antidepressants. There
is no need for wariness in this situation.
KIM

A. Yates

I've had about 3 days of zoloft. In 6 weeks or so I'll let you know if
I think it is doing any good. Right now I have a narcotic to use when I
need it, and let me tell you it is so wonderful to even have half a day
without a headache.
Thanks so much for everyone's suggestions.
Ann

monkeycoop@... wrote:

> From: monkeycoop@...
>
> In a message dated 2/29/00 6:05:23 PM Central Standard Time,
> epoxies@... writes:
>
> << obviously hit a nerve with you Kim...I was just trying to help >>
>
> Nope, you didn't hit a nerve with me. I would just hate for any
> migraine
> sufferer to miss out on what could be an excellent source of relief
> because
> they are feeling "wary" of their doctor prescribing antidepressants.
> There
> is no need for wariness in this situation.
> KIM
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In a message dated 3/1/00 9:09:53 AM Central Standard Time,
hooperck@... writes:

<< let me tell you it is so wonderful to even have half a day
without a headache. >>

Ann,
I am so glad for you, and I know just what you mean about even a half a day
being a welcome respite. I hope this is just the beginning of a new trend
for you!
KIM
***runs with scissors***

A. Yates

Thanks for the kind words.... I hope it is all improvement from here.
Ann

Shannon Brophy

I wanted to add info on migraines. This doctor has a natural approach using
natural supplements.
Reach him at Dr. Sensenig ND [drsensenig@...].
Sorry, I deleted the article he wrote. He is doing a study.
Shannon
mom to Gabe, 3 next week
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