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In a message dated 4/29/03 4:04:56 AM, fetteroll@... writes:

<< Yeah, and Sandra won't come if it's in summer. Desert people would drown in
our humidity! >>

I would. I've been to the Pennsic War three times. It's kinda deathish,
camping in Pennsylvania. In the morning it's hard to tell where the little
lake ends and the air stops. But for a good cause (and especially if I don't
have to be in a car all the way across the country to have it GRADUALLY go
wet; that's rough) it might be doable.

Truthfully, it's hard to breathe at first. The first time I was in PA in
August I said it felt like the air was full of plants and water. But what
people who are used to high desert air have to do is get a new breathing
rhythm and just breathe very shallowly. There's a LOT of oxygen to be had,
hardly breathing. And a deep breath can hurt. Your lungs get too full and
you're still breathing in and it's like a cramp nearly.

But it made me more sympathetic for people going the other direction, who
would get out here, and up here (a mile high where I live, and they often see
the mountain and say "let's go up there!" but it's another whole mile!) and
they're breathing shallowly as they've done for years or a lifetime, and it's
not doing them as much good as it did before. They get tired and
light-headed and now I know what to coach them to do. For years I had no
clue.

Sandra

Backstrom kelli

I know this, do I ever! Born in Santa Fe, NM and my mom raised me in and around Boston! So we go back and forth all the time, my lungs are always killing me and I still overestimate how much I can do physically, wouldn't trade either environments though, love them both equally! Kelli

SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 4/29/03 4:04:56 AM, fetteroll@... writes:

<< Yeah, and Sandra won't come if it's in summer. Desert people would drown in
our humidity! >>

I would. I've been to the Pennsic War three times. It's kinda deathish,
camping in Pennsylvania. In the morning it's hard to tell where the little
lake ends and the air stops. But for a good cause (and especially if I don't
have to be in a car all the way across the country to have it GRADUALLY go
wet; that's rough) it might be doable.

Truthfully, it's hard to breathe at first. The first time I was in PA in
August I said it felt like the air was full of plants and water. But what
people who are used to high desert air have to do is get a new breathing
rhythm and just breathe very shallowly. There's a LOT of oxygen to be had,
hardly breathing. And a deep breath can hurt. Your lungs get too full and
you're still breathing in and it's like a cramp nearly.

But it made me more sympathetic for people going the other direction, who
would get out here, and up here (a mile high where I live, and they often see
the mountain and say "let's go up there!" but it's another whole mile!) and
they're breathing shallowly as they've done for years or a lifetime, and it's
not doing them as much good as it did before. They get tired and
light-headed and now I know what to coach them to do. For years I had no
clue.

Sandra

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Backstrom kelli

I know this, do I ever! Born in Santa Fe, NM and my mom raised me in and around Boston! So we go back and forth all the time, my lungs are always killing me and I still overestimate how much I can do physically, wouldn't trade either environments though, love them both equally! Kelli

SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 4/29/03 4:04:56 AM, fetteroll@... writes:

<< Yeah, and Sandra won't come if it's in summer. Desert people would drown in
our humidity! >>

I would. I've been to the Pennsic War three times. It's kinda deathish,
camping in Pennsylvania. In the morning it's hard to tell where the little
lake ends and the air stops. But for a good cause (and especially if I don't
have to be in a car all the way across the country to have it GRADUALLY go
wet; that's rough) it might be doable.

Truthfully, it's hard to breathe at first. The first time I was in PA in
August I said it felt like the air was full of plants and water. But what
people who are used to high desert air have to do is get a new breathing
rhythm and just breathe very shallowly. There's a LOT of oxygen to be had,
hardly breathing. And a deep breath can hurt. Your lungs get too full and
you're still breathing in and it's like a cramp nearly.

But it made me more sympathetic for people going the other direction, who
would get out here, and up here (a mile high where I live, and they often see
the mountain and say "let's go up there!" but it's another whole mile!) and
they're breathing shallowly as they've done for years or a lifetime, and it's
not doing them as much good as it did before. They get tired and
light-headed and now I know what to coach them to do. For years I had no
clue.

Sandra

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on 4/29/03 2:20 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

> I would. I've been to the Pennsic War three times. It's kinda deathish,
> camping in Pennsylvania. In the morning it's hard to tell where the little
> lake ends and the air stops.

Bwahahahahahahahaaha!

I grew up in PA. That's fog, not humidity.

Humidity is when the salt shakers stop pouring.

Humidity is when the clumping cat litter stops clumping.

Humidity is when you feel wetter getting out of the shower than you felt in
it.

It was so humid here last year that salt scattered on the table pulled so
much water out of the air it formed puddles.

Joyce

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That's funny! but true.\
Laura

In a message dated 4/29/2003 10:00:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
fetteroll@... writes:

> Bwahahahahahahahaaha!
>
> I grew up in PA. That's fog, not humidity.
>
> Humidity is when the salt shakers stop pouring.
>
> Humidity is when the clumping cat litter stops clumping.
>
> Humidity is when you feel wetter getting out of the shower than you felt in
> it.
>
> It was so humid here last year that salt scattered on the table pulled so
> much water out of the air it formed puddles.
>
> Joyce



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Have a Nice Day!

But it made me more sympathetic for people going the other direction, who
would get out here, and up here (a mile high where I live, and they often see
the mountain and say "let's go up there!" but it's another whole mile!)<<<<<


Oh my gosh, I can relate to this!!!!

I live in PA. But my mom moved to NM (she has since moved back). Anyway, the first time I went to see her, we went up to on the Sandias on that cable car.

I want to tell you I was sick as a dog by the time we got done with that 20 minute cable car ride. At first, I wasn't sure what was wrong with me. Light headed, nauseous, etc. Then I realized how high we went in such a short time and realized it was altitude sickness, or at least thats what I think it was.

Once I was up there for about an hour and got something to eat, I felt a bit better.

Makes me hesitate to go up there again.

Kristen
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I know this, do I ever! Born in Santa Fe, NM and my mom raised me in and around Boston! So we go back and forth all the time, my lungs are always killing me and I still overestimate how much I can do physically, wouldn't trade either environments though, love them both equally! Kelli

SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 4/29/03 4:04:56 AM, fetteroll@... writes:

<< Yeah, and Sandra won't come if it's in summer. Desert people would drown in
our humidity! >>

I would. I've been to the Pennsic War three times. It's kinda deathish,
camping in Pennsylvania. In the morning it's hard to tell where the little
lake ends and the air stops. But for a good cause (and especially if I don't
have to be in a car all the way across the country to have it GRADUALLY go
wet; that's rough) it might be doable.

Truthfully, it's hard to breathe at first. The first time I was in PA in
August I said it felt like the air was full of plants and water. But what
people who are used to high desert air have to do is get a new breathing
rhythm and just breathe very shallowly. There's a LOT of oxygen to be had,
hardly breathing. And a deep breath can hurt. Your lungs get too full and
you're still breathing in and it's like a cramp nearly.

But it made me more sympathetic for people going the other direction, who
would get out here, and up here (a mile high where I live, and they often see
the mountain and say "let's go up there!" but it's another whole mile!) and
they're breathing shallowly as they've done for years or a lifetime, and it's
not doing them as much good as it did before. They get tired and
light-headed and now I know what to coach them to do. For years I had no
clue.

Sandra

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Have a Nice Day!

The first time I was in PA in
August I said it felt like the air was full of plants and water.<<<


I've often said that it feels like we're drowning in August. It *does* feel like the air is full of water, and when the air is thick, you can really smell the fragrance of the plants too. I love it, but I thank Gd for air conditioning!

Kristen


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In a message dated 4/29/03 7:59:56 PM, fetteroll@... writes:

<< In the morning it's hard to tell where the little
> lake ends and the air stops.

Bwahahahahahahahaaha!
>>

Hey, I worded that badly. The air never stopped and the lake never ended.

There. That makes more sense. <g>