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In a message dated 4/28/2003 12:54:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
karen@... writes:
> The only purely unschooing conferences anywhere are GWS and the one (soon to
>
> be second annual and last/final) one put on in SC by Kelly Lovejoy.
>
> Whoa did I miss something? Is this going to be the LAST SC conference?
> We weren't planning on attending this year because Brogan is still pretty
> young (3) but I was planning on going in the next year or so. Is it really
> the last one? Yikes!

Karen,

I wasn't planning to have one THIS year, but I felt that I really needed to
"finish" last year's conference---Sandra was my Keynote Speaker but fell and
broke her leg on the way to her Keynote Speech Friday afternoon. No one got
to hear her except for brief visits in her hospital room (and she was
morphined out of many of those!). I feel I owe Sandra and all the attendees
for last year.

A conference is EXTREMELY labor intensive. And I have no one to help. It's
just "me". The hours it kept me from my husband and children last year were
---- countless! I won't say it won't ever happen again, 'cause it MIGHT. But
it's not in the plans. I hope to be moving to NC next year; I'd like to put
my time towards building our house and planning the farm.

I'd truly recommend coming THIS year. If it happens again in the future, you
can say you've already been! <g>

And I don't think GWS is doing theirs anymore. Are they? I think we're *it*
this year.

I hope to see you in August!

~Kelly


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marji

At 17:07 4/28/03 -0400, Kelly wrote:
>I wasn't planning to have one THIS year, but I felt that I really needed
>to "finish" last year's conference---Sandra was my Keynote Speaker but
>fell and broke her leg on the way to her Keynote Speech Friday afternoon.
>No one got to hear her except for brief visits in her hospital room (and
>she was morphined out of many of those!). I feel I owe Sandra and all the
>attendees for last year.

Kelly, even though Sandra was not feeling so well (a major understatement)
when I saw her at the hospital, I still felt tremendously honored and
delighted to have been able to be in the same room with someone who has had
such a profound and wonderful effect on my life and my son's life, in
addition to having an incredible effect on, I believe, the Unschooling
Community at large. I felt sad that she was not able to enjoy that as much
as I did. (Sorry, Sandra, to be talking about you as though you're not in
the room!)

>A conference is EXTREMELY labor intensive. And I have no one to help. It's
>just "me". The hours it kept me from my husband and children last year
>were ---- countless! I won't say it won't ever happen again, 'cause it
>MIGHT. But it's not in the plans. I hope to be moving to NC next year; I'd
>like to put my time towards building our house and planning the farm.

I don't know if I've ever expressed it properly, Kelly, but even if I did,
it would bear repeating: I fail to find the proper words to let you know
how the gift of your time and the gift of your family's sacrifice of you
has meant to me. I can only imagine how much energy it has taken for you to
do this, and when you are able to redirect and dedicate *that* energy to
your home and farm, I'd bet it's going to be a knockout!

>I'd truly recommend coming THIS year. If it happens again in the future,
>you can say you've already been! <g>
>
>And I don't think GWS is doing theirs anymore. Are they? I think we're
>*it* this year.
>
>I hope to see you in August!

Of course, the only way you're not going to see me is if you're not
looking! (g)

Thanks again, Kelly! I hope you know how much you're appreciated!
Marji

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genant2@... writes:


> Kelly,
> Is anyone in your SOS group mentioned picking up the rope and handling
> things
> after you move? Or has no one thought that far yet?
> Pam G

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hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~Kelly


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In a message dated 4/28/2003 5:45:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
marji@... writes:
> Kelly, even though Sandra was not feeling so well (a major understatement)
> when I saw her at the hospital, I still felt tremendously honored and
> delighted to have been able to be in the same room with someone who has had
>
> such a profound and wonderful effect on my life and my son's life, in
> addition to having an incredible effect on, I believe, the Unschooling
> Community at large. I felt sad that she was not able to enjoy that as much
>
> as I did. (Sorry, Sandra, to be talking about you as though you're not in
> the room!)


Yeah---and she and Marty slept in MY bed! <G>

> >A conference is EXTREMELY labor intensive. And I have no one to help. It's
> >just "me". The hours it kept me from my husband and children last year
> >were ---- countless! I won't say it won't ever happen again, 'cause it
> >MIGHT. But it's not in the plans. I hope to be moving to NC next year; I'd
>
> >like to put my time towards building our house and planning the farm.
>
> I don't know if I've ever expressed it properly, Kelly, but even if I did,
> it would bear repeating: I fail to find the proper words to let you know
> how the gift of your time and the gift of your family's sacrifice of you
> has meant to me. I can only imagine how much energy it has taken for you to
>
> do this, and when you are able to redirect and dedicate *that* energy to
> your home and farm, I'd bet it's going to be a knockout!


You are SO sweet!

Of course, the only way you're not going to see me is if you're not
> looking! (g)


Mostly, y'all need to LISTEN for her!

> Thanks again, Kelly! I hope you know how much you're appreciated!
> Marji


Thank YOU, Marji---you are very kind.

~Kelly


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Betjeman and Barton Tea Merchants

from Kelly:

I'd truly recommend coming THIS year. If it happens again in the future, you
can say you've already been! <g>


Kelly,

you are tempting me now stop it!!! <g>

My family is in Raleigh - I think you *need* to have an NC conference next year!

Karen


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In a message dated 4/29/2003 11:01:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
karen@... writes:


> you are tempting me now stop it!!! <g>
>
> My family is in Raleigh - I think you *need* to have an NC conference next
> year!

RALEIGH! You have NO excuse! We have folks coming in from OH, LA, AZ, CO, ME
MI! NO excuse, Karen! <g>

~Kelly


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In a message dated 4/29/03 11:01:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
karen@... writes:

> My family is in Raleigh - I think you *need* to have an NC conference next
> year!
>
>

You guys have a nice unschooling community in that area and Raleigh is a nice
place for a conference, you guys should consider it for the future.
Pam G


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Betjeman and Barton Tea Merchants

Kelly wrote:


RALEIGH! You have NO excuse! We have folks coming in from OH, LA, AZ, CO, ME
MI! NO excuse, Karen! <g>


Oops sorry I didn't mean to be confusing. We are in CT, I have family (parents, brothers etc) are in Raleigh.

I miss Raleigh but I like our CT homeschooling laws better. In NC they have to take some kind of yearly test - ick.

I'm working on talking dh into the SC conference - right now he's looking at me like I'm nuts <g>

Karen



~Kelly


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In a message dated 4/29/2003 7:32:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jana@... writes:> That is high (175.00); we usually pay less
> than that for powwows - about that for non native events.
>

And *I'M* CHEAP! HSC is BIG bucks---as are the "curriculum fairs" that folks
pay to attend.

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coyote's corner

Someone's coming in from Maine??

I'd really like to go

Janis
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To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]SC conference


Kelly wrote:


RALEIGH! You have NO excuse! We have folks coming in from OH, LA, AZ, CO, ME
MI! NO excuse, Karen! <g>


Oops sorry I didn't mean to be confusing. We are in CT, I have family (parents, brothers etc) are in Raleigh.

I miss Raleigh but I like our CT homeschooling laws better. In NC they have to take some kind of yearly test - ick.

I'm working on talking dh into the SC conference - right now he's looking at me like I'm nuts <g>

Karen



~Kelly


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Stephanie Elms

> I wasn't planning to have one THIS year, but I felt that I
> really needed to
> "finish" last year's conference---Sandra was my Keynote
> Speaker but fell and
> broke her leg on the way to her Keynote Speech Friday
> afternoon.

Well, then I for one is glad that Sandra fell. <beg> I joined this list a couple of months
before the conference so I did not get my act together to go. I won't miss this one!

Stephanie E. (who actually is really sorry that Sandra had to go through the pain but
will still enjoy the second chance to go!)

[email protected]

Is there a web site for the conference?
I think I may go sounds like loads of fun.
Is there a sign up? What are the fees? Group rates?
Maybe us New Englanders can rent a bus, an Air conditioned one!

Laura
Maine


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In a message dated 4/29/2003 10:35:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HMSL2@...
writes:
> Is there a web site for the conference?
> I think I may go sounds like loads of fun.
> Is there a sign up? What are the fees? Group rates?
> Maybe us New Englanders can rent a bus, an Air conditioned one!
>

http://www.schoolsoutsupport.org/events

It is.

Yes. Click on "Registration". Family rates & Early Bird specials. Also
special hotel rates.

Busses are good! <G>

~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy, Coordinator
Schools Out Support
mailto:coordinator@...
803-776-4849
Fax: 803-776-7006
http://www.schoolsoutsupport.org


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SARA

I've been reading along for a while and thought I would pipe up and
ask who besides Sandra will I get to meet in Columbia in August.
I'll be helping Kelly with the raffle and whatever she finds for me
to do. Needless to say, I am tickled as hell! I wish I had known
about this conference last year.

My son, Pete and I will coming from NC. It will be a huge event for
us, because even though I've unschooled him from birth, I still find
myself offering him a text or workbook to pull some explanations out
of when I can't answer his math questions. He hasn't wanted to write
and I was hoping for some enlightenment there soon. He does worry
that he's stupid because he doesn't do public school work but really
I see him making great progress with very little formal learning.
The teen years are looming though and I need reasurance about our
direction.

We do quite a bit of community service and volunteering. Our biggest
issue is the lack of like-minded folks; we do live in the sticks
amongst the conservative. I have just joined a new statewide online
group called HOME ALLIANCE of North Carolina or HA-NC. I'm thinking
one person here in this group is also in NC. We are throwing around
ideas on a conference for NC next spring.

I very much enjoy the directness here. My take on the dialog is
this: if you're not willing to accept what people say or if you
won't express what you think as you do in real life....you are being
false in your intent on any online group. In real life, I can be
much too direct and like making decisions quickly. Sometimes that
backfires because I also am NOT a deep thinker, and at times all but
the plainest language goes over my head. So I try to be careful
online; facial expression, body language, and tone aren't here for
us to use...I think that brings on misunderstanding and argument.
It's also easy to not complete a thought on a busy day and be
misunderstood about THAT. So I read more and speak less. Sara

[email protected]

Sara,
Where do you live in NC? I live in Catawba County. I just "met" ( online)
another lady from HA-NC that lives a few miles from me. Nice to see
another NC'er here.

Teresa


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Olga

Hi Sara,

I just got my tickets so me my dh and two boys will be there. I am
really looking forward to going :)

Olga

--- In [email protected], "SARA" <cheeps4u@y...>
wrote:
> I've been reading along for a while and thought I would pipe up and
> ask who besides Sandra will I get to meet in Columbia in August.
> I'll be helping Kelly with the raffle and whatever she finds for me
> to do. Needless to say, I am tickled as hell! I wish I had known
> about this conference last year.
>
> My son, Pete and I will coming from NC. It will be a huge event for
> us, because even though I've unschooled him from birth, I still
find
> myself offering him a text or workbook to pull some explanations
out
> of when I can't answer his math questions. He hasn't wanted to
write
> and I was hoping for some enlightenment there soon. He does worry
> that he's stupid because he doesn't do public school work but
really
> I see him making great progress with very little formal learning.
> The teen years are looming though and I need reasurance about our
> direction.
>
> We do quite a bit of community service and volunteering. Our
biggest
> issue is the lack of like-minded folks; we do live in the sticks
> amongst the conservative. I have just joined a new statewide online
> group called HOME ALLIANCE of North Carolina or HA-NC. I'm thinking
> one person here in this group is also in NC. We are throwing around
> ideas on a conference for NC next spring.
>
> I very much enjoy the directness here. My take on the dialog is
> this: if you're not willing to accept what people say or if you
> won't express what you think as you do in real life....you are
being
> false in your intent on any online group. In real life, I can be
> much too direct and like making decisions quickly. Sometimes that
> backfires because I also am NOT a deep thinker, and at times all
but
> the plainest language goes over my head. So I try to be careful
> online; facial expression, body language, and tone aren't here for
> us to use...I think that brings on misunderstanding and argument.
> It's also easy to not complete a thought on a busy day and be
> misunderstood about THAT. So I read more and speak less. Sara

Betsy

**My son, Pete and I will coming from NC. It will be a huge event for
us, because even though I've unschooled him from birth, I still find
myself offering him a text or workbook to pull some explanations out
of when I can't answer his math questions.**

Hi, Sara --

What you described is okay. There are no forbidden resources. It's
just forbidden, in unschooling, to shackle the child TO the resource and
make him use it. <g>

**He hasn't wanted to write
and I was hoping for some enlightenment there soon.**

My son doesn't write at all. I mean he can't even form all of the
letters of the alphabet without hints. I think his fine motor skills
are just "late" compared to school standards. This is scary for me, but
he hates being "noodged", so I know it would be counterproductive. (As
well as immoral, un-unschooling-y, and probably fattening <g>)

Betsy

zenmomma2kids

>> I've been reading along for a while and thought I would pipe up
and ask who besides Sandra will I get to meet in Columbia in August.>>

I'll be there with my daughter, Casey.

Life is good.
~Mary

Olga

I am having the same issue. My son, almost 5, really DISLIKES
writing. Partly, that was because I forced handwriting workbooks
down his throat <sigh>. He is a perfectionist and really gets
frustrated very quickly. I have gotten rid of handwriting books. I
make gentle offers to write things. Occasionally, he will write or
draw but it is rare. I wish it was more often, that would soothe
that schooly part that is still lurking. Oh well. He is happy and
full of love and innocence. Can't get to much better then that :)

Olga :)

--- In [email protected], Betsy <ecsamhill@e...>
wrote:
>
>
> **My son, Pete and I will coming from NC. It will be a huge event
for
> us, because even though I've unschooled him from birth, I still
find
> myself offering him a text or workbook to pull some explanations
out
> of when I can't answer his math questions.**
>
> Hi, Sara --
>
> What you described is okay. There are no forbidden resources. It's
> just forbidden, in unschooling, to shackle the child TO the
resource and
> make him use it. <g>
>
> **He hasn't wanted to write
> and I was hoping for some enlightenment there soon.**
>
> My son doesn't write at all. I mean he can't even form all of the
> letters of the alphabet without hints. I think his fine motor
skills
> are just "late" compared to school standards. This is scary for
me, but
> he hates being "noodged", so I know it would be counterproductive.
(As
> well as immoral, un-unschooling-y, and probably fattening <g>)
>
> Betsy

[email protected]

In a message dated 5/17/03 8:59:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cheeps4u@... writes:

> I have just joined a new statewide online
> group called HOME ALLIANCE of North Carolina or HA-NC. I'm thinking
> one person here in this group is also in NC. We are throwing around
> ideas on a conference for NC next spring.
>
>

An unschooling conference or an inclusive conference?
Pam G. also from NC


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In a message dated 5/27/03 9:10:37 PM, davenshan@... writes:

<< I know this has been asked too many times to count, but what is the url for
the South Carolina Unschooling conference. >>

Anytime you forget a URL, just go to google.com and put in enough words to
have that page come up.

I think August 2003 unschooling SC will do it.
Checking...

http://www.schoolsoutsupport.org/2003conference.html

Sure enough, the third thing that came up on google is the main page.

Sandra

Dave and Shannon

Thanks! We were going to try to come, but the tix are $400/ea and there are
three of us that need tix. :o( Dh said I could go with the baby. But that
is not the point of the conference. I want the family to be with me. So we
are not coming. Maybe if someone starts a new conference next year. I am
so sad I will not be able to come.

Shannon Buckley
Mom to Connor 3-15-97, Carsten born at home 4-27-99/5-19-00 and Quinn born
at home 8-08-02

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] SC conference


In a message dated 5/27/03 9:10:37 PM, davenshan@... writes:

<< I know this has been asked too many times to count, but what is the url
for
the South Carolina Unschooling conference. >>

Anytime you forget a URL, just go to google.com and put in enough words to
have that page come up.

I think August 2003 unschooling SC will do it.
Checking...

http://www.schoolsoutsupport.org/2003conference.html

Sure enough, the third thing that came up on google is the main page.

Sandra



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In a message dated 5/28/2003 11:30:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
davenshan@... writes:


> Thanks! We were going to try to come, but the tix are $400/ea and there
> are
> three of us that need tix. :o( Dh said I could go with the baby. But that
> is not the point of the conference. I want the family to be with me. So we
> are not coming. Maybe if someone starts a new conference next year. I am
> so sad I will not be able to come.
>

400. each? Wow..... Why so much? Does that include the room and food? I
went to the website, but when I clicked on registration or anything beyond the
home page, I got a "website not responding" message...maybe it was just my
computer.

Nancy


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Dave and Shannon

I'm sorry, I meant plane tix from Arizona to SC. I didn't even look at the
tix for the conference itself. I'm sure that's doable for me. It's just
getting there that's the problem.

Shannon Buckley
Mom to Connor 3-15-97, Carsten born at home 4-27-99/5-19-00 and Quinn born
at home 8-08-02

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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] SC conference

In a message dated 5/28/2003 11:30:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
davenshan@... writes:


> Thanks! We were going to try to come, but the tix are $400/ea and there
> are
> three of us that need tix. :o( Dh said I could go with the baby. But
that
> is not the point of the conference. I want the family to be with me. So
we
> are not coming. Maybe if someone starts a new conference next year. I am
> so sad I will not be able to come.
>

400. each? Wow..... Why so much? Does that include the room and food? I
went to the website, but when I clicked on registration or anything beyond
the
home page, I got a "website not responding" message...maybe it was just my
computer.

Nancy


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marji

At 07:46 5/28/03 -0700, you wrote:
>Thanks! We were going to try to come, but the tix are $400/ea and there are
>three of us that need tix. :o( Dh said I could go with the baby. But that
>is not the point of the conference. I want the family to be with me. So we
>are not coming. Maybe if someone starts a new conference next year. I am
>so sad I will not be able to come.
>
>Shannon Buckley

Shannon, There were a few people who came to the conference solo last
year. Obviously, it's best if the whole family can go, but if you can at
all manage to do it, you should come, even if it means just you and the
baby being there. You will get sooooo much out of it that the benefits far
outweigh the bummerness of leaving your son and husband home.

The reason I say this is that most of us do not live in unschooling
communities, and it can be really tough to do something that is as fringe
as unschooling when you're the only one in your area doing it. Okay, well,
it may not be tough to *do* it, but it can be tough to deal with the doubts
and concerns and all that when you are feeling like an oddball. But at the
conference, you are in a community and you are not on the fringe! You'll
be able to bring that sense of community home with you and it will benefit
you long after the conference has ended. You'll have a sense of
comradeship that you didn't have before, and you'll be able to see living,
breathing, functioning unschooling families comprised of younger children
and older children, treating each other with respect and joy. I don't know
how it is where you live, but that kind of thing is pretty rare in my neck
of the woods. Being in the midst of so many unschoolers really helped me
to feel a kinship with people whom I had never even met, and helped me see
what this whole thing can really look like. It helped me believe in myself!

And, no, Kelly Lovejoy is not paying me!

Since you have the support of your husband, I hope you will
reconsider. It'll be the best $$ you could have spent on (Invested in)
your unschooling lifestyle!


Marji

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coyote's corner

Hi,
Brianna & I might be interested, if the offer is still open.

Janis
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To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 7:05 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] SC conference


Hi all, I'm going to SC conference this year. I had someone who was
interested in sharing a room but we called too late for a suite. The
rooms have two large beds, queen I think. Would anyone be interested
in rooming with us. I'm from NC and my son is 12yo. We share a bed
comfortably but we both snore some...allergies! We will be staying
at the Holiday Inn. The room is 80-85 dollars a night; we are
staying Friday through Sunday. Email me at cheeps4u@... Sara


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In a message dated 5/28/2003 11:30:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
davenshan@... writes:
> We were going to try to come, but the tix are $400/ea and there are
> three of us that need tix. :o( Dh said I could go with the baby. But that
> is not the point of the conference. I want the family to be with me. So we
> are not coming. Maybe if someone starts a new conference next year. I am
> so sad I will not be able to come.

I'm sad too.

It may not be the "point" of the conference---the family "thang" is big---but
there are a lot of "just moms" coming. It's wonderful to connect with others
from this list and put names to faces. To get meet virtual friends IRL.

I've mentioned before that the reason I put it together in the first place
was totally selfish---I just wanted to meet all these guys! <G>

I hope you'll reconsider! I'd like to meet YOU too!

~Kelly


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In a message dated 5/28/2003 7:29:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
marji@... writes:
> And, no, Kelly Lovejoy is not paying me!

But THAT could be worth a paycheck!

Thanks, Marji!

~Kelly


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In a message dated 5/28/2003 7:11:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
davenshan@... writes:


> I'm sorry, I meant plane tix from Arizona to SC. I didn't even look at the
> tix for the conference itself. I'm sure that's doable for me. It's just
> getting there that's the problem.
>

Oh, thanks for clarifying :o)

Nancy


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Shannon, I don't think you saw my earlier e-mail to you but I am going without the family; with a girlfriend, because my kids want to be with their cousins who will be visiting that week. Please come! It would be so great to meet you in person!!
-Maddie (cbwk)

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