Heather Woodward

I was wondering if everyone brought their children to the SOS Conference. I have 3 children ages 8,5,4.
For financial reasons it would seem easier for me and my husband to come alone - however - I was also wondering if there were other children, particulary unschooled children attending, if it would be good for my kids to go.

I also wanted my husband and myself to be able to really listen to the speakers - most of the time I would be chasing children - which isn't so bad - But does hinder the ability to fully listen.

Any suggetsions on what others have done - or are planning to do would be great!

Thanks -

Heather


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In a message dated 4/25/2003 10:49:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bacwoodz@... writes:
> I was wondering if everyone brought their children to the SOS Conference. I
> have 3 children ages 8,5,4.

Not everyone. There was a whole set of women (8?) who just came, drank wine,
and hung out on the terrace! <G> They didn't TELL their husbands OR their
children that they were invited! <G> Both kids and husbands were pissed when
they found out AFTER the fact! <G> Anyway, they may be out of luck this year,
I hear the husbands and kids are demanding to come this year!

> For financial reasons it would seem easier for me and my husband to come
> alone - however - I was also wondering if there were other children,
> particulary unschooled children attending, if it would be good for my kids
> to go.


I understand! I've tried to help families out with the early bird family
rate---paid before June 1. But there will be a lot for kids to do. It was
also good for the dads (who generally are a little harder to convince) to see
so many unschooled kids in one place! The kids could make a few new
unschooled friends---but it really depends on your financial situation!

> I also wanted my husband and myself to be able to really listen to the
> speakers - most of the time I would be chasing children - which isn't so
> bad - But does hinder the ability to fully listen.

I understand that too! There will be a "toddler room" attached to the main
speakers' room so the littluns can be "contained". The older children would
be right next door in another ballroom with lots of fun things to do all day.
Again--up to you!

> Any suggetsions on what others have done - or are planning to do would be
> great!
>

> Ren had her crew last year. She may be coming alone. Why don't you email her
> and ask a "non-biased" person! <G> I want you ALL here!

starsuncloud@... she'll be happy to talk.

We don't have all the funshops for the kids listed yet---because I don't have
the contracts in yet---no confirmation, and I want to be sure who'll be
there. But there should be lots of funnthings to keep them occupied!

Talk with Ren---or post on the boards or the e-list for others' opinions!

I'll look forward to meeting you ALL! <G>

~Kelly




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In a message dated 4/26/2003 1:19:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kbcdlovejo@... writes:


> a message dated 4/25/2003 10:49:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> bacwoodz@... writes:
> > I was wondering if everyone brought their children to the SOS Conference.
> I
> > have 3 children ages 8,5,4.
>
> Not everyone. There was a whole set of women (8?) who just came, drank
> wine,
> and hung out on the terrace! <G> They didn't TELL their husbands OR their
> children that they were invited! <G> Both kids and husbands were pissed
> when
> they found out AFTER the fact! <G> Anyway, they may be out of luck this
> year,
> I hear the husbands and kids are demanding to come this year!
>
> > For financial reasons it would seem easier for me and my husband to come
> > alone - however - I was also wondering if there were other children,
> > particulary unschooled children attending, if it would be good for my
> kids
> > to go.
>
>

OOps. Sorry. Thought that was private!

Need to read the address!

~Kelly


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marji

The Live and Learn conference, in my opinion, is a GREAT place for kids!

For me, one of the major attractions of last year's conference was the
knowledge that my son would get to see other functioning unschooling
families. There aren't too many unschoolers in our community (well, that's
a gross understatement; aside from ONE other family we only recently met,
there are NO unschoolers that I know of!). Although my son is completely
dedicated to unschooling, he is surrounded by either school-at-homers or
kids who go to school full time. Either way, most of his friends are
conventionally parented with food and other restrictions as well as
punishments and time-outs and all the rest.

Among the many, many reasons the conference was so cool, one thing that
sticks out clearly for me was that my son got to be around kids and their
parents whose experiences were similar to ours. It was great for both of
us to be around kids who were being parented with compassion and
respect. It was great to see older kids who had been unschooled and were
bright and interested and interesting. Of course, that was no surprise for
me, but it was still good for me to see with my own eyeballs, and I know it
was good for Liam, too.

Notwithstanding the ability to sit out on a patio drinking wine and talking
with no concerns of kids, I wouldn't dream of going there without my son
because it was such an affirming situation for him as an unschooler. Other
than the wonderful real life he is living (which, of course, cannot be
discounted), he doesn't get that many of them.

I say, bring the kids!

Marji

P.S. Pam L., it's a 13-hour drive for us, coming from New York
State. Even though it was maybe 2 hours longer than we had patience for,
the drive together was a lot of fun and we really loved it!! Hopefully, it
won't rain the whole time we're driving (like it did last time) and we can
have even more adventures!

At 07:19 4/26/03 -0700, you wrote:
><<Heather Woodward wrote:
>I was wondering if everyone brought their children to the SOS Conference.
>I have 3 children ages 8,5,4.>>
>
>We're planning to bring the kids with us - they are 11, 9, and 6. I'd
>like them to meet other unschooling kids and have some fun! The
>storytelling picnic sounds great as do the descriptions of the funshops
>from last year. We're planning on turning it into a little family
>vacation - since we have a 14 hour drive to get there.
>
>Pam L.


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Annette

> I was wondering if everyone brought their children to the SOS Conference.
I have 3 children ages 8,5,4.>>

Although we have been unschooling for a few years now, ill-health has
prevented me from finding out more about the unschooling organizations,
conferences, periodicals, etc. I am very interested in this conference, as
well as anything else out there that is going on. I would love to interact
more now with other unschoolers! Is there a web-site out there with some
collective information along these lines, or are there any other conferences
that anyone is aware of?

Thanks, Annette

[email protected]

In a message dated 4/25/03 10:49:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bacwoodz@... writes:

> I was wondering if everyone brought their children to the SOS Conference. I
> have 3 children ages 8,5,4.
>

I brought mine and there were a lot of children there of all ages. Mine were
5 and 8 at the time. They loved it and really felt like they fit in. They
had no trouble making friends right away because everyone was like them.
There were so many things for them to do. They cried when we had to leave.
And the atmosphere was so relaxed that it made it easy to bring children.
Not like most conferences of the "schooly" type.
Pam G.


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24hrmom

<<Heather Woodward wrote:
I was wondering if everyone brought their children to the SOS Conference. I have 3 children ages 8,5,4.>>

We're planning to bring the kids with us - they are 11, 9, and 6. I'd like them to meet other unschooling kids and have some fun! The storytelling picnic sounds great as do the descriptions of the funshops from last year. We're planning on turning it into a little family vacation - since we have a 14 hour drive to get there.

Pam L.


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jmcseals SEALS

I am considering making this a family vacation as well. How do families
with youngsters handle attending the speaking engagements? Does Dad stay
with them while mom goes, or vice versa, or do they attend right along with
the parents?

We have 7 kids and I'm nervous as to how 'young family' friendly this will
be. Can someone shed some light??

THanks,
Jennifer




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marji

At 11:50 4/26/03 -0400, Shyrley wrote:
>Hi Marji
>
>Do you want to stop here on your way down? We're not far off I-95 in
>Northern Virginia and will be leaving for the conferenece ourselves on the
>Thursday morning. SC is 500 miles from here.
>
>Shyrley

Wait, let me think.

YEAH!!!!

How cool will that be??? You'd better be sure to get your "arse" back here
in time, okay! You just might want to stay there!! (And, I certainly
wouldn't blame you!) I'm sad enough just to know that you're going no
mail! But, of course, you'll probably write in every now and again while
you're across the big puddle, right?

Have a great trip. Now I have something ELSE to look forward to! By the
way, if you're back by the end of June (the 27th, 28th & 29th, to be
exact), I'll be performing with my group GaiaWolf at the Animal Rights 2003
conference, which is being held at the McLean Hilton. Here's a link for
anyone so inclined.

Thanks for the invite, Shyrley! If you are back, we will definitely take
you up on it!

Love,
Marji

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24hrmom

<<marji wrote:
Among the many, many reasons the conference was so cool, one thing that
sticks out clearly for me was that my son got to be around kids and their
parents whose experiences were similar to ours. It was great for both of
us to be around kids who were being parented with compassion and
respect. It was great to see older kids who had been unschooled and were
bright and interested and interesting. Of course, that was no surprise for
me, but it was still good for me to see with my own eyeballs, and I know it
was good for Liam, too.>>

This is a wonderful endorsement and exactly why we're making it a family event!

<<P.S. Pam L., it's a 13-hour drive for us, coming from New York
State. Even though it was maybe 2 hours longer than we had patience for,
the drive together was a lot of fun and we really loved it!! Hopefully, it
won't rain the whole time we're driving (like it did last time) and we can
have even more adventures!>>

We're from Ontario and we've done the drive to Florida a few times with the kids. They say one of their favourite things about those vacations is being carried out to the car in the middle of the night (we usually leave around 3-4am) and being bundled in with pillows and blankets!! LOL They also enjoy spending a day or two in the van since we deck it out to travel: TV/VCR (I usually pick up or tape a new movie to surprise them), video games etc. and they each pack a knapsack of toys, small games, and paper/pencils to keep them happily busy. In fact, whenever I tell my youngest we're going on vacation he always asks if we're leaving in the middle of the night and if we're not he's very disappointed!

Pam L.


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Shyrley

marji wrote:

>
>
> P.S. Pam L., it's a 13-hour drive for us, coming from New York
> State. Even though it was maybe 2 hours longer than we had patience for,
> the drive together was a lot of fun and we really loved it!! Hopefully, it
> won't rain the whole time we're driving (like it did last time) and we can
> have even more adventures!
>

Hi Marji

Do you want to stop here on your way down? We're not far off I-95 in Northern Virginia and will be leaving for the conferenece ourselves on the Thursday morning. SC is 500 miles from here.

Shyrley


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In a message dated 4/26/03 9:22:51 AM, marji@... writes:

<< I'll be performing with my group GaiaWolf at the Animal Rights 2003
conference, which is being held at the McLean Hilton. Here's a link for
anyone so inclined. >>

Link, please.

And this reminds me...
What happened to the other mom-in-a-band in Australia, the big Rastafarian
rain-forest family who moved to a commune or something? Anyone in touch with
her on the side who can update us?


Sandra

marji

At 13:31 4/26/03 -0400, you wrote:

>In a message dated 4/26/03 9:22:51 AM, marji@... writes:
>
><< I'll be performing with my group GaiaWolf at the Animal Rights 2003
>conference, which is being held at the McLean Hilton. Here's a link for
>anyone so inclined. >>
>
>Link, please.

Heh heh, umm.... sorry 'bout that. This is me clearly doing too many
things and not thinking 'bout what I'm doing. So before I ramble further
and forget to provide the link AGAIN, http://www.animalrights2003.org/

marji with a red face

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zenmomma2kids

>> I was wondering if everyone brought their children to the SOS
Conference. I have 3 children ages 8,5,4.>>

I'm bringing my daughter, Casey, who is 9. I'm speaking at two
different times, so she'll need to have things to do while I'm busy.
I'm confident that she's going to be thrilled with all of the other
kids and activities available to her. And even if she's not somehow,
*I'll* be thrilled with all of the other wonderful, supportive
unschooling moms there, understanding and giving me a hand getting
her settled and entertained for an hour. :o) It's a VERY comfortable
weekend.

Life is good.
~Mary

Annette

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shyrley" <shyrley.williams@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unschooling Conference in SC- Question


>We're not far off I-95 inNorthern Virginia

I'm in Mt Vernon. Are there any groups around here for unschoolers?
Annette

Shyrley

marji wrote:

> At 13:31 4/26/03 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >In a message dated 4/26/03 9:22:51 AM, marji@... writes:
> >
> ><< I'll be performing with my group GaiaWolf at the Animal Rights 2003
> >conference, which is being held at the McLean Hilton. Here's a link for
> >anyone so inclined. >>
> >
> >Link, please.
>
> Heh heh, umm.... sorry 'bout that. This is me clearly doing too many
> things and not thinking 'bout what I'm doing. So before I ramble further
> and forget to provide the link AGAIN, http://www.animalrights2003.org/
>
> marji with a red face
>

Might have to toddle along to that. I haven't got involved in animal rights here in the US yet, mainly cos I thought PETA were too wishy-washy.

Shyrley


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Shyrley

marji wrote:

> At 11:50 4/26/03 -0400, Shyrley wrote:
> >Hi Marji
> >
> >Do you want to stop here on your way down? We're not far off I-95 in
> >Northern Virginia and will be leaving for the conferenece ourselves on the
> >Thursday morning. SC is 500 miles from here.
> >
> >Shyrley
>
> Wait, let me think.
>
> YEAH!!!!
>
> How cool will that be??? You'd better be sure to get your "arse" back here
> in time, okay! You just might want to stay there!! (And, I certainly
> wouldn't blame you!) I'm sad enough just to know that you're going no
> mail! But, of course, you'll probably write in every now and again while
> you're across the big puddle, right?

Wont be writing from the UK cos I'll have no computer access :-(
but I'll be back by June. Much as I want to go home, it s taking time plus I wouldn't want to miss the SC conference!!
Anyone else want to break their journey in Virginia is welcome too. then we could head down to SC as a Unschooling convoy :-)

Shyrley



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In a message dated 4/26/2003 8:53:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
24hrmom@... writes:

> We're from Ontario and we've done the drive to Florida a few times with the
> kids

Pam L from Ontario---and Brenda from Germany too? An INTERNATIONAL
conference?

WOW! We might have to reNAME it! <G>

~Kelly


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[email protected]

In a message dated 4/26/2003 10:55:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jmcseals@... writes:
> I am considering making this a family vacation as well. How do families
> with youngsters handle attending the speaking engagements? Does Dad stay
> with them while mom goes, or vice versa, or do they attend right along with
>
> the parents?
>
> We have 7 kids and I'm nervous as to how 'young family' friendly this will
> be. Can someone shed some light??
>

Jennifer,

It's non-age-discriminatory. Anyone can be anywhere. Last year most of the
kids were fine "on their own" in the funshop rooms. This year we have the
main speaker room with a small "Toddler Room" attached. Next door there will
be a large ballroom with funshops going all day. (Most are not posted
yet---still waiting for contract confirmation.) Some parents would "divide &
conquer", but most just checked in every so often---or the children would.
But the children are also welcome in the main speaker room.

~Kelly


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[email protected]

In a message dated 4/26/2003 8:46:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
annette.yunker@... writes:


> Although we have been unschooling for a few years now, ill-health has
> prevented me from finding out more about the unschooling organizations,
> conferences, periodicals, etc. I am very interested in this conference, as
> well as anything else out there that is going on. I would love to interact
> more now with other unschoolers! Is there a web-site out there with some
> collective information along these lines, or are there any other
> conferences
> that anyone is aware of?
>

Where are you Annette?

~Kelly


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Annette

> Where are you Annette?
>
> ~Kelly

I'm in the Washington, DC/Northern VA area. Alexandria/Mount Vernon to be
exact.

Annette

jmcseals SEALS

Thanks Kelly, just what I needed to know!

Jennifer







It's non-age-discriminatory. Anyone can be anywhere. Last year most of the
kids were fine "on their own" in the funshop rooms. This year we have the
main speaker room with a small "Toddler Room" attached. Next door there will
be a large ballroom with funshops going all day. (Most are not posted
yet---still waiting for contract confirmation.) Some parents would "divide &
conquer", but most just checked in every so often---or the children would.
But the children are also welcome in the main speaker room.

~Kelly






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[email protected]

In a message dated 4/26/2003 6:37:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
annette.yunker@... writes:
> I'm in the Washington, DC/Northern VA area. Alexandria/Mount Vernon to be
> exact.
>
> Annette

Ah! Just a hop, skip, and a jump from SC! See you in August! <G>

~Kelly

Kelly Lovejoy, Coordinator
Schools Out Support
mailto:coordinator@...
803-776-4849
Fax: 803-776-7006
http://www.schoolsoutsupport.org


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Annette

> Ah! Just a hop, skip, and a jump from SC! See you in August! <G>
>
> ~Kelly
>
Yes, I'm definitely going to try to be there! Annette

Annette

Right by George Washington's Mount Vernon Estate - The part of Fairfax
County considered South Alexandria. Between
Route 1 and the Potomac River.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shyrley" <shyrley.williams@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unschooling Conference in SC- Question


>
>
> Annette wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shyrley" <shyrley.williams@...>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unschooling Conference in SC- Question
> >
> > >We're not far off I-95 inNorthern Virginia
> >
> > I'm in Mt Vernon. Are there any groups around here for unschoolers?
> > Annette
> >
>
> Where's Mt Vernon?
> I run one in Sterling.
>
> Shyrley
>
>
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Shyrley

Annette wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shyrley" <shyrley.williams@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unschooling Conference in SC- Question
>
> >We're not far off I-95 inNorthern Virginia
>
> I'm in Mt Vernon. Are there any groups around here for unschoolers?
> Annette
>

Where's Mt Vernon?
I run one in Sterling.

Shyrley


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Shyrley

Annette wrote:

> Right by George Washington's Mount Vernon Estate - The part of Fairfax
> County considered South Alexandria. Between
> Route 1 and the Potomac River.
> ----- Original Message -----

You'll hafta come over. Straight up Route 7 for 18 miles and there I am :-)

Shyrley


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Stephanie Elms

> Wont be writing from the UK cos I'll have no computer access :-(
> but I'll be back by June. Much as I want to go home, it s
> taking time plus I wouldn't want to miss the SC conference!!
> Anyone else want to break their journey in Virginia is
> welcome too. then we could head down to SC as a Unschooling convoy :-)

Hey count me in on that...still not sure if I have convinced hubby to come yet...

Stephanie E.

Stephanie Elms

> I'm in the Washington, DC/Northern VA area. Alexandria/Mount
> Vernon to be
> exact.

Hi Annette! I am in Annandale. Are you on the Va Eclectic email list? It is not
unschooling specific, but most are relaxed/unschoolers.

How old are your kids.

Feel free to email me off list if you want. :o)

Stephanie E.

marji

At 17:55 4/26/03 -0400, Kelly Lovejoy wrote:
>In a message dated 4/26/2003 10:55:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>jmcseals@... writes:
> > I am considering making this a family vacation as well. How do families
> > with youngsters handle attending the speaking engagements? Does Dad stay
> > with them while mom goes, or vice versa, or do they attend right along
> with
> >
> > the parents?
> >
> > We have 7 kids and I'm nervous as to how 'young family' friendly this will
> > be. Can someone shed some light??
> >
>
>Jennifer,
>
>It's non-age-discriminatory. Anyone can be anywhere...

Yes... Liam and I were talking about the upcoming conference and Liam, an
unschooler's unschooler, said, "I will be happy to go to this conference as
long as you don't try to tell me where to go and what to do." I told him,
"Ummm, I don't remember actually doing that last time." And he replied,
"Well, you didn't, but sometimes you tried to." He reminded me that the
conference was a big success for him because he was able to have so much
fun with Sierra and Jared just playing and doing their own thing
(especially with Sierra).

My point is that while there were tons of things that were organized for
kids to do, the children also had the space and freedom to create their own
experiences. So, while Liam was not really interested in participating in
the unweaving funshop (and, MAN, was that fun), he enjoyed the unweaving
after it was all done and, in his own inimitable way, created his own
experience for himself out of it. That's just who he is and the way he
does things.

Some folks may have a huge problem with that, but, I believe that
Unschooling honors that in a person, and the conference more than embodied
Unschooling because the children were free to be Who They Are and get the
experience *they want* to get from it.

Meanwhile, I got this amazingly beautiful hand-felted hat, great talking
sticks, books, tapes...

I'm not sure if this made any sense at all, but I just want to point out
that there is ample loving space at this conference for the most
nonconformist, individualistic, can't-tell-'em-what-to-do kinds of kids.

Marji (who wishes the world in general were more like the SOS Live and
Learn Unschoolers' Conference)

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