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A spinoff from the the hair thread...

Anyone have experience with a kid wanting to change their name? I can
remember wanting to be Angie at about age 12, which bugged the crud out of my
mom, but Angie I was until I graduated. Every once in a awhile I still here
her refer to me to someone else as Angie, it sounds so bizarre. I don't like
Angie so much, and I don't dislike Angela as much as I used to.

My almost 11yo has had a few times where she wanted to be something other
than Megan. Her name is Megan Elizabeth. For awhile she kidded that we could
called her Emmy like her initials, M-E. It was brought up again that she
likes the name Joyce, which is my sisters legal name, but always went by her
middle name. Now she says most seriously, that she hates Megan, and when she
grows up she will be known as Lizzie or Liz. I said why not now? She totally
blew me off LOL. She loves Lizzie McGuire so that probably has something to
do with it.

Ang


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jmcseals SEALS

I don't know that I have much to offer here, but my daughter Haleigh has
been complaining about her name lately. She wants to be Erin. I like that,
too! I have read several places that pre-teens often go through a name
hating period. It is actually quite healthy as they are exerting their
independance and finding their 'selves'. I've also heard this goes away
once they establish within themselves who they are. I can already see
Haleigh's interest, or lack there of >g<, in her name fading. The rebellion
stage is fading out more and more everyday and the more confident she is,
the less I hear about it. Kids just need to establish boundries and their
names are an easy target, I guess.

I say call your kids SpongeBob if that's what they want. Why not?? I've
always hated my name, although I'm pretty sure of who I am. :) It would
help a LOT if there weren't 5 million Jennifer's everywhere I went. I never
ONCE had a class where I was the only one. No kidding! And that's a LOT of
classes!!!

Jennifer, who happliy now goes by Momma, Mom, Mommy and occasionaly, GO TELL
YOUR MOTHER!?! I have lots of choices!







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Jon and Rue Kream

I changed my name. I never felt that Ruth was me. I not only didn't
like it, it just didn't seem to suit me. When I was about 9 my cousin
started calling me Ruru, and it quickly got shortened to Rue. Soon
everyone but my parents called me Rue. I had it legally changed as an
adult. My parents were not thrilled, but do make an effort to remember
to call me Rue. It doesn't bother me when they call me Ruthie, but I
can't stand if anyone else does. If someone calls out "Hey, Ruth" I
don't hear it any more than I would if someone said, "Hey, Heather".

I say help her find a name that feels right, and call her whatever she
wants to be called. ~Rue





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From: unolist@... [mailto:unolist@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Name experimentation


A spinoff from the the hair thread...

Anyone have experience with a kid wanting to change their name? I can
remember wanting to be Angie at about age 12, which bugged the crud out
of my
mom, but Angie I was until I graduated. Every once in a awhile I still
here
her refer to me to someone else as Angie, it sounds so bizarre. I don't
like
Angie so much, and I don't dislike Angela as much as I used to.

My almost 11yo has had a few times where she wanted to be something
other
than Megan. Her name is Megan Elizabeth. For awhile she kidded that we
could
called her Emmy like her initials, M-E. It was brought up again that she

likes the name Joyce, which is my sisters legal name, but always went by
her
middle name. Now she says most seriously, that she hates Megan, and
when she
grows up she will be known as Lizzie or Liz. I said why not now? She
totally
blew me off LOL. She loves Lizzie McGuire so that probably has something
to
do with it.

Ang


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Elizabeth Roberts

My daughter's full name is Sarah Irene Jeanette. With
Sarah being a common name, she asks every now and
again to be called "Jeannie" but she's not very
forceful about it (at 7).

I remember wanting to change my name for SO long, I
never liked being called Beth. Hated Elizabeth, which
is my given name. I felt it was too old fashioned and
boring and just NOT me.

When I went to boot camp, I was simply known by my
last name; when I met my husband at my first unit I
introduced myself as Elizabeth and that's all he's
ever called me. It seems to fit now. It seems weird
when my family calls me Beth.

Although...when we nearly got divorced three years
ago, I started putting everything into my middle name
of Lynne because I just couldn't bear to hear myself
called Elizabeth anymore..it being my husband's name
for me and Beth my childhood name. But we stayed
together thankfully, so I'm still Elizabeth.

Elizabeth
--- unolist@... wrote:
> A spinoff from the the hair thread...
>
> Anyone have experience with a kid wanting to change
> their name? I can
> remember wanting to be Angie at about age 12, which
> bugged the crud out of my
> mom, but Angie I was until I graduated. Every once
> in a awhile I still here
> her refer to me to someone else as Angie, it sounds
> so bizarre. I don't like
> Angie so much, and I don't dislike Angela as much as
> I used to.
>
> My almost 11yo has had a few times where she wanted
> to be something other
> than Megan. Her name is Megan Elizabeth. For awhile
> she kidded that we could
> called her Emmy like her initials, M-E. It was
> brought up again that she
> likes the name Joyce, which is my sisters legal
> name, but always went by her
> middle name. Now she says most seriously, that she
> hates Megan, and when she
> grows up she will be known as Lizzie or Liz. I said
> why not now? She totally
> blew me off LOL. She loves Lizzie McGuire so that
> probably has something to
> do with it.
>
> Ang
>
>
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> removed]
>
>


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Well, I'm back LOL!!

Had some health concerns but thankfully I'm alright
now although I'm expecting to end up on bedrest later
on during the pregnancy because while the placenta is
no longer previa, it is still anterior and extremely
low, and they think it's stuck on scar tissue from
previous Csections. The thyroid cancer is thankfully
benign and they'll just put me on meds after Baby is
born.

ANYWAY...because of these health concerns I've not
been able to do ANYTHING but let Sarah handle things
on her own educationally and it hasn't been too bad.
She's still wanting to be read to from the Sonlight
books, but hey, she's choosing it. I can't say I'll
ever completely feel comfortable with not saying
"let's do some math today" or whatever, but it's
getting easier to see where she is doing something
educational within her day and I'm keeping a Blog to
help keep track as well. Sarah's even reading aloud
more to me now that I'm not saying anything about it.
She'll pick up and book and say "Let me read this to
you!" rather than "Do I HAVE to read today?!"

Since I've been gone, Sarah's taught Logan to sing his
ABCs and identify the letters of his name. He says
they are "Lellow-gee-in" instead of L-o-g-a-n.

We've decided to not continue Sarah's IEP next year
since she's not really getting the help she needs
anyway.

Elizabeth

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In a message dated 4/17/2003 3:17:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
jmcseals@... writes:

>
> I say call your kids SpongeBob if that's what they want. Why not?? I've
> always hated my name, although I'm pretty sure of who I am. :) It would
> help a LOT if there weren't 5 million Jennifer's everywhere I went. I
> never
> ONCE had a class where I was the only one. No kidding! And that's a LOT
> of
> classes!!!
>
> Jennifer, who happliy now goes by Momma, Mom, Mommy and occasionaly, GO
> TELL
> YOUR MOTHER!?! I have lots of choices!

Now that you mention it, I never thought there were alot of Jennifers,
Pick an name that you know your daughter most likely will not like
and tell her that you were planning on calling her that in the first
place!
My Mother out foxed me on this one when I went through that
phase. For lack of anyone named my mothers first choice, I won't
mention it here.
Along with the many versions of Mom, I also supposed to come
or answer to a certain whistle when my son is searching for me.
For awhile I was supposed to answer to "DUDE".
That didn't work for my ps teenage son.
Have you ever been in a store and heard a child call "MOM"
and lots of women turn towards the child? LOL its embeded in
our brains! Linda is nice to hear now, as little as I get to hear it.

Another M OM



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Rebecca DeLong

unolist@... wrote:
<<<Anyone have experience with a kid wanting to change their name?>>> When I was 14 I changed my name from Rebecca to phred. I still go by phred, dh met me as phred and thats the only thing that he'll call me. My family calls me Becky, friends call me phred. I go by Rebecca here because my legal name is on my yahoo account and I didn't want to confuse anyone. Jason and I have discussed that our kids my want to change their names at some point, we've always felt that its another personal choice and if they want us to call them somthing else we will. Rebecca aka phred
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coyote's corner

Hi,
My son changed his name when he turned 18.
That was 11 years ago. I call him by his chosen name.

He also changed his last name. His bio-dad (my ex-husband) had to be dragged into court and almost jailed to pay child support ( his business was worth millions and it was in his mothers name) He paid very little, his second wife didn't like my kids, so my ex saw my kids very infrequently ( 3 times in ten years).
My moms family name is very, very old. It goes back to the 12th century. There were no more men to carry on the name. ( None of my grandmothers - VaVau- sons married) My son changed his name from Joseph Bogle.
He became Jean-Luc Calouro.

I love it.
Janis who is known as Jana by many, many people
also coyote or coyote woman


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unolist@... wrote:
<<<Anyone have experience with a kid wanting to change their name?>>> When I was 14 I changed my name from Rebecca to phred. I still go by phred, dh met me as phred and thats the only thing that he'll call me. My family calls me Becky, friends call me phred. I go by Rebecca here because my legal name is on my yahoo account and I didn't want to confuse anyone. Jason and I have discussed that our kids my want to change their names at some point, we've always felt that its another personal choice and if they want us to call them somthing else we will. Rebecca aka phred
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In a message dated 4/17/2003 4:48:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
encadia@... writes:

> Now that you mention it, I never thought there were alot of Jennifers,
> Pick an name that you know your daughter most likely will not like
> and tell her that you were planning on calling her that in the first
> place!
>

This discussion prompted me to ask my children how they felt about their
names. They are all pretty common names and while they weren't chosen
because they were popular at the time, they were and there are usually more
than one of them in each class.

One year they assigned rec softball by alphabetical order by some computer
fluke and Sarah's team had six Sarah's, so everyone got called by first and
middle or first and last initial. Was funny but confusing.

Well, it's a consensus around here, they all love their names and wouldn't
change them. Sarah says she thinks it's because of the wonderful stories
that I always told them about what their names mean and how we put such care
into choosing them, her name seemed like a special gift to her. Well, wonder
if she would have felt the same way if we had named her something like,
Myrtle or Gertrude, which are fine names but not very common these days?

So guess we are keeping Sarah Melissa, Matthew Wayne, John Woodrow Ellis,
Caitlin Elizabeth, and Jackson Thomas or variations of those names anyway.

As with any good southern child they know that if their full name is being
used, then it's probably not something good! (they liked to remind me of
that)

My kids answer to first, middle, or a combination of their names. Cait was
Caity Beth for years and years, then just Caity and now she wants to be
called CAIT. I guess she thinks it's more grown up.

I think I am the only one in Matthew's life that calls him Matthew, to
everyone else it's Matt.

John is John except I've always called him Wood, so he answers to that from
me.

Sarah is Sarah or Melissa, almost evenly divided. Got confusing when she had
a roommate named Melissa. Her roommate would say "your Mom called but I'm
not sure which one of us the message is for".

Jackson is just Jack and always will be.

Thanks to whoever started this thread, it was a fun discussion with my
children about their names and what they like and even what they might name
their own children!

glena


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sablehs

coyote's corner <jana@...> wrote:
I love it.
Janis who is known as Jana by many, many people
also coyote or coyote woman>>I think this is the fun part that may take some of the rebellion stage of the name game <g> a lot of kids so. They have each picked out a magickal name for themselves.My husband and I {Jonathan and Tracy } heard our names so much, we knew we wanted to have pretty unique names for our kids. But if they ever decide to change it for another name. That's cool too.For now my oldest two say they like their names.Tracy




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unolist@... wrote:
<<<Anyone have experience with a kid wanting to change their name?>>>

Actually, yes! We called ds *Will* (from William) since birth, but after
quitting school in the 8th grade, he popped up and informed us that he wanted
to be called *Liam*, a Gaelic nickname for William. What a cool name, we
thought, and what a great independence moment for him. I don't think that it
was a coincidence that he came up with the idea right after leaving school
and embarking on the unschooling path. It all felt like whole cloth to me.

It wasn't difficult, really, for us to get used to, mainly because it was
important to him and we respected his wishes enormously. Also, years before,
dh had changed what we called him -- from *Don* to *Gib*, so I had a little
experience with the idea.

I remember wanting to be called *Leigh* when I was in high school. I thought
that Laura was a pretty boring name. My middle name was Lee, and I wanted to
do an unusual variation on it, but no one would listen to me or respect my
wishes. I was completely discounted and treated as if my idea was silly. It
made me feel pretty small and insignificant. I certainly didn't want to make
my ds feel the same way.

Self-identification, -awareness, and -esteem are all so tightly interwoven.
I think that *owning* one's own name fully might be a pretty important thing
to do.

Laura B.

Tia Leschke

> One year they assigned rec softball by alphabetical order by some computer
> fluke and Sarah's team had six Sarah's, so everyone got called by first
and
> middle or first and last initial. Was funny but confusing.

My son's ball team has had 3 Seans on it for several years now. This year
there are 4, and it wasn't done alphabetically. They all had to try out.
There are actually 2 Seans and 2 Shawns, but it makes no difference when you
say the names.
Tia

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saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
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In a message dated 4/17/03 10:42:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rubyprincesstsg@... writes:

> Jackson is just Jack and always will be.
>
>

That is so funny because my DH is Jackson and his family always has and
always will call him Jack. I always say Jackson because to me Jack sounds
juvenile. And that is how I have always known him. But to his family it is
Jack and Uncle Jack. LOL
Pam G.


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Robin Clevenger

My kids have both gone in and out of phases where they either pretend to be
someone else, or change their name. My daughter has been "Carmen" for a week
or two. She went through a fairly long period of time where she would only
be called "Frodo Baggins" and she wore a ring on a chain around her neck,
LOL! My son went through a similar thing where for several months he would
only be called "Casey Jones" and only wore engineer overalls, cap, and red
bandana. I think this falls more into imaginative play at that age though.
Recently, my son asked if he could change his name and I explained about
legally changing it and that since it's a fairly complicated process, it
would be worthwhile to try out any name that he wanted to use for awhile
first before discussing changing it legally. He thought about it for awhile
and tried out a couple of names, but ultimately liked his own name better.
Since DH goes by his middle name and not his first name, he knows that you
can be called one thing by some people and one by another. There was a
period of several years through high school and college where I went by a
different name as well, though I didn't legally change my name. In the area
where we live, it's fairly common for people to legally change their names.
We know people named "Tree", "Raven", and "Sequoia" who most likely chose
these names in adulthood (though I haven't asked them). There are kids in
our homeschooling group who go by other names that they've chosen.
As far as what my kids call me, they sometimes use my first name, which is
fine by me. I don't stand on formality though it can freak the grandparents
out who are a bit more traditional. The kids usually call me "mom" or
"momma" though. Last week they thought it was hysterical to refer to me as
"Mrs. M-O-M". I don't know where they got that one!

Blue Skies,
-Robin-

Kelly Lenhart

I changed my name. I hated my given name and when I went to college simply
stopped using it. I FINALLY got around to legally changing it about 1.5
years ago.

I purposly have chosen fairly simple, common names for my sons. Names with
common nicknames that I can stand. James Nicolas and Benjamin Ian. Oh, and
little no name boy due in August. I figure there is some variant of those
names they will like at any given time. If not, well, I've been there, done
that, I'll call 'em whatever they want.

Kelly