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In a message dated 4/16/03 8:14:03 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< I know that I cant, one of those life rewinders would be kinda nice right
now, though :). I like that, grammy the life lesson <g>. >>

One of Trevors big wishes is to have a life rewinder. He says he'd watch
something spill, then rewind and watch it over and over.
And he'd test out people interactions. What would happen if he said something
really, really rude, then rewind and do it diffferent.
What a great tool for learning how to do things better!! :) I'd like one too.

About those pesky Grandmas, it can be rough.
I have no problem with family disagreeing with me or showing other points of
view.
But my Grandma has the same disease yours does, overcontrollitis.
She snuck behind my back to tell Trevor that he needs to teach Jared to read
and she'd pay him to do so. ACK!
This, after my Dad told her to mind her own business and that the best way to
piss off his dd was to meddle with the kids.
She doesn't learn very quickly, but the kids are pretty good at dealing with
her.
They just smile and make vague sounds and change the subject. Works like a
charm.

With the younger ones, I'd be like a Mama bear. Leave them the hell alone or
ELSE!!
She knows not to push it too far with me now, I've had it up to my eyeballs
with it. So has my sis. It is really, really freaking her out that we are
still homeschooling...guess she thought we'd give it up by now!
Oh well.

Just shrug it off, but make it very clear that if your kids are going to
spend time with your family, it is NOT to happen again.
She has the choice between honoring the mother/child relationship or not
spending time with the children, that's how I see it. But I'm rather
intolerant and thick skinned these days....

Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."

----Frances Hodgson Burnett

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Kathryn wrote this.
I agree with it intellectually. It's sensible and calm. But I have a
comment below.

-=-I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs.-=-

-=-You'll just have to keep stressing that these are her BELIEFS, not
facts, and that he'll develop his own beliefs.-=-

To fundamentalist Christians that will sound like "blah blah blah Satan blah
blah blah damnation blah blah blah just needs to know about Jesus."

When someone is focussed on Jesus as the Savior and Son of God who's coming
soon to sort people out for eternity, NOTHING about any other beliefs or
religions means anything at all except death and pain and stupidity.

You can't compromise with them. You can't ask them to be happy keeping their
beleifs to themselves. They will hear that as "Back off, we don't care if he
goes to hell."

Sandra

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In a message dated 4/17/2003 11:38:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:

> -=-You'll just have to keep stressing that these are her BELIEFS, not
> facts, and that he'll develop his own beliefs.-=-
>
> To fundamentalist Christians that will sound like "blah blah blah Satan
> blah
> blah blah damnation blah blah blah just needs to know about Jesus."
>
> When someone is focussed on Jesus as the Savior and Son of God who's coming
>
> soon to sort people out for eternity, NOTHING about any other beliefs or
> religions means anything at all except death and pain and stupidity.
>
> You can't compromise with them. You can't ask them to be happy keeping
> their
> beleifs to themselves. They will hear that as "Back off, we don't care if
> he
> goes to hell."
>
>

Actually, I meant that she should stress that to her kids. Clearly there's no
talking to mom, if she'd sabotage realtionships by telling her grandchildren
that their mother would lie to them about religion.

Kathryn


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