the christian thread
Mary
Just about had my tired behind in bed when I had a lightbulb moment. Not ever or now being a christian, I was wondering how I got pulled into this thread. Meaning it was getting to me enough where I responded. It's not the whole christian thing that did it, or even the idea of prejudice. It's the whole "if I were" statement. That's what bothered me. I don't like when someone does it. Putting oneself in someone else's place to not understand but to state what they would do (and that usually means it would be better than what is being done already) is not fair.
I can wonder out loud what I would do if I won the lotto, but to think what I would if I were another race or religion or even in a different circumstance is not fair as I see it. I just don't think anyone can really know what they would do as someone else.
I certainly don't do it to my kids and don't like when someone does it to me. I guess maybe because my mom is still really good at that. "Well you know if I were you I would blah blah blah" Does't have a good taste. And it would feel the same if someone said "if I were a 45 year old mother of 4 living in Florida I would......" Same thing. If it's for fun, that's one thing, but to really speculate on what one would do is another.
Hopefully this will all look okay in the morning. It's a bit late, err.....early here now.
Mary B
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I can wonder out loud what I would do if I won the lotto, but to think what I would if I were another race or religion or even in a different circumstance is not fair as I see it. I just don't think anyone can really know what they would do as someone else.
I certainly don't do it to my kids and don't like when someone does it to me. I guess maybe because my mom is still really good at that. "Well you know if I were you I would blah blah blah" Does't have a good taste. And it would feel the same if someone said "if I were a 45 year old mother of 4 living in Florida I would......" Same thing. If it's for fun, that's one thing, but to really speculate on what one would do is another.
Hopefully this will all look okay in the morning. It's a bit late, err.....early here now.
Mary B
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In a message dated 4/11/03 12:16:31 AM, mummy124@... writes:
<< I can wonder out loud what I would do if I won the lotto, but to think
what I would if I were another race or religion or even in a different
circumstance is not fair as I see it. I just don't think anyone can really
know what they would do as someone else. >>
I grew up Christian. I have Christian parents, Christian grandparents, as
far back as anyone knows in all directions. Baptist. Nazarene.
I'm not imagining.
And I know Christian homeschoolers. Some visit in our home. They won't let
their kids watch TV with sexual situations (and that WAS the question and the
topic).
I'm not imagining that either.
-=- Not ever or now being a christian,-=-
So you're not now and have never been a Christian?
I have.
You're offended?
BY WHAT!???
Sandra
<< I can wonder out loud what I would do if I won the lotto, but to think
what I would if I were another race or religion or even in a different
circumstance is not fair as I see it. I just don't think anyone can really
know what they would do as someone else. >>
I grew up Christian. I have Christian parents, Christian grandparents, as
far back as anyone knows in all directions. Baptist. Nazarene.
I'm not imagining.
And I know Christian homeschoolers. Some visit in our home. They won't let
their kids watch TV with sexual situations (and that WAS the question and the
topic).
I'm not imagining that either.
-=- Not ever or now being a christian,-=-
So you're not now and have never been a Christian?
I have.
You're offended?
BY WHAT!???
Sandra
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In a message dated 4/11/03 7:01:18 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< I can wonder out loud what I would do if I won the lotto, but to think
what I would if I were another race or religion or even in a different
circumstance is not fair as I see it. I just don't think anyone can really
know what they would do as someone else. >>
I think that you're forgetting a big, huge factor.
The person HAS been in a Christians shoes. She was a Baptist, and was
planning on becoming a missionary.
She knows what the hell she's talking about!!
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson Burnett
[email protected] writes:
<< I can wonder out loud what I would do if I won the lotto, but to think
what I would if I were another race or religion or even in a different
circumstance is not fair as I see it. I just don't think anyone can really
know what they would do as someone else. >>
I think that you're forgetting a big, huge factor.
The person HAS been in a Christians shoes. She was a Baptist, and was
planning on becoming a missionary.
She knows what the hell she's talking about!!
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson Burnett
Mary
From: <SandraDodd@...>
I don't see it that way. Whether you were, grew up that way or are
surrounded by it all the time, you aren't now. And if you were, you are a
different person now. To assume for a whole group of people, when we all
know that ALL of them aren't the same is what I'm talking about.
<<And I know Christian homeschoolers. Some visit in our home. They won't
let
their kids watch TV with sexual situations (and that WAS the question and
the
topic).
I'm not imagining that either.>>
And I know christian homeschoolers that do allow unrestricted tv. Haven't a
few just spoken up on this list? You know SOME christian homeschoolers like
that. That's my point.
<<So you're not now and have never been a Christian?
I have.
You're offended?
BY WHAT!???>>
I didn't say I was offended. I said the assumptions bothered me. Doesn't
mean you won't still do it, just means I don't care to hear it.
Mary B
><<I'm not imagining.>>
I don't see it that way. Whether you were, grew up that way or are
surrounded by it all the time, you aren't now. And if you were, you are a
different person now. To assume for a whole group of people, when we all
know that ALL of them aren't the same is what I'm talking about.
<<And I know Christian homeschoolers. Some visit in our home. They won't
let
their kids watch TV with sexual situations (and that WAS the question and
the
topic).
I'm not imagining that either.>>
And I know christian homeschoolers that do allow unrestricted tv. Haven't a
few just spoken up on this list? You know SOME christian homeschoolers like
that. That's my point.
<<So you're not now and have never been a Christian?
I have.
You're offended?
BY WHAT!???>>
I didn't say I was offended. I said the assumptions bothered me. Doesn't
mean you won't still do it, just means I don't care to hear it.
Mary B
Mary
From: <starsuncloud@...>
<<I think that you're forgetting a big, huge factor.
The person HAS been in a Christians shoes. She was a Baptist, and was
planning on becoming a missionary.
She knows what the hell she's talking about!!>>
I've been a lot of things in my life. I'm not the same person now that I was
then. I wouldn't do the same things now that I did then. I wouldn't dare
think I would know exactly what I would do now in the same circumstances as
10 years ago. That's all I'm saying. I'm not getting excited about it or
yelling. I'm stating how I feel about certain words and thoughts.
Mary B
<<I think that you're forgetting a big, huge factor.
The person HAS been in a Christians shoes. She was a Baptist, and was
planning on becoming a missionary.
She knows what the hell she's talking about!!>>
I've been a lot of things in my life. I'm not the same person now that I was
then. I wouldn't do the same things now that I did then. I wouldn't dare
think I would know exactly what I would do now in the same circumstances as
10 years ago. That's all I'm saying. I'm not getting excited about it or
yelling. I'm stating how I feel about certain words and thoughts.
Mary B
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In a message dated 4/11/03 9:54:19 AM, mummy124@... writes:
<< I've been a lot of things in my life. I'm not the same person now that I
was
then. I wouldn't do the same things now that I did then. I wouldn't dare
think I would know exactly what I would do now in the same circumstances as
10 years ago. That's all I'm saying. >>
But you're saying it so strongly and so repeatedly you MUST mean something by
it.
My original statement was no big deal and for it to spin off into hundreds of
posts defending Christians is ridiculous.
Sandra
<< I've been a lot of things in my life. I'm not the same person now that I
was
then. I wouldn't do the same things now that I did then. I wouldn't dare
think I would know exactly what I would do now in the same circumstances as
10 years ago. That's all I'm saying. >>
But you're saying it so strongly and so repeatedly you MUST mean something by
it.
My original statement was no big deal and for it to spin off into hundreds of
posts defending Christians is ridiculous.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/11/2003 2:08:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
buy special rods to beat our children or not allow them to watch certain TV
Shows or things that like when you say it with such knowing. As If I were a
fundamentalist Christian, I would___________. Like there is no other choice
and we know there are choices because we live differently every day.
That's why it was a big deal to us being a Christian IS who we are, we are
mothers and wives and unschoolers and we love our children and families and
are NOT the people who dictate every second of their child existence.
So if someone said "if I were one of those unschoolers, my kids would just
lay at home and be ignorant because I don't expose them to anything but the
home and their family" There are some people out there that claim to be
unschooler but yet their kids experience nothing of life and are basically
uneducated. I have seen these children. Two families come to mind, if I
thought longer about my experiences in the past I might come up with more.
You would most probably be offended, because you are NOT that type of
unschooler who is completely NOT present with her kids and they sit at home
and stare at the walls. And if someone repeatedly talked about this
particular group of parents by only the term they knew them as "unschoolers"
you would repeatedly feel like reminding them that not all unschoolers are
like that. Some love their children and care that they grow up to be
productive people and give examples of how your unschooling is as opposed to
the unschooling that they were talking about.
Unlikely to happen here but it would be the same. I'm sure if at a
conference or the grocery store if someone was talking about an unschooling
group that neglected their children you would just think, oh yes I know about
those kinds of unschoolers and I'm not that kind and nod and smile as they
continued telling you how horrible these particular unschooler were? Using
the term unschooler interchangeably with what you know to be YOUR unschooling
methods?
That's how it feels as a Christian to just be lumped in the Christian
homeschooling group with no distinction and to hear the horror stories.
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> My original statement was no big deal and for it to spin off into hundredsIt IS a big deal to us that know we are Christians and KNOW we would never
> of
> posts defending Christians is ridiculous.
>
buy special rods to beat our children or not allow them to watch certain TV
Shows or things that like when you say it with such knowing. As If I were a
fundamentalist Christian, I would___________. Like there is no other choice
and we know there are choices because we live differently every day.
That's why it was a big deal to us being a Christian IS who we are, we are
mothers and wives and unschoolers and we love our children and families and
are NOT the people who dictate every second of their child existence.
So if someone said "if I were one of those unschoolers, my kids would just
lay at home and be ignorant because I don't expose them to anything but the
home and their family" There are some people out there that claim to be
unschooler but yet their kids experience nothing of life and are basically
uneducated. I have seen these children. Two families come to mind, if I
thought longer about my experiences in the past I might come up with more.
You would most probably be offended, because you are NOT that type of
unschooler who is completely NOT present with her kids and they sit at home
and stare at the walls. And if someone repeatedly talked about this
particular group of parents by only the term they knew them as "unschoolers"
you would repeatedly feel like reminding them that not all unschoolers are
like that. Some love their children and care that they grow up to be
productive people and give examples of how your unschooling is as opposed to
the unschooling that they were talking about.
Unlikely to happen here but it would be the same. I'm sure if at a
conference or the grocery store if someone was talking about an unschooling
group that neglected their children you would just think, oh yes I know about
those kinds of unschoolers and I'm not that kind and nod and smile as they
continued telling you how horrible these particular unschooler were? Using
the term unschooler interchangeably with what you know to be YOUR unschooling
methods?
That's how it feels as a Christian to just be lumped in the Christian
homeschooling group with no distinction and to hear the horror stories.
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In a message dated 4/11/03 4:10:17 PM, rubyprincesstsg@... writes:
<< Unlikely to happen here but it would be the same. I'm sure if at a
conference or the grocery store if someone was talking about an unschooling
group that neglected their children you would just think, oh yes I know about
those kinds of unschoolers and I'm not that kind and nod and smile as they
continued telling you how horrible these particular unschooler were? >>
VERY bad analogy, especially as it almost exactly parallels the example I
already gave of having (for years) had to separate myself from the
homeschooling methods of so many Christian homeschoolers.
<<That's how it feels as a Christian to just be lumped in the Christian
homeschooling group with no distinction and to hear the horror stories.>>
It wasn't a horror story.
I will quote the beginning of your post:
<<> My original statement was no big deal and for it to spin off into
hundreds
What sort of horror story are you fantasizing?
Sandra
<< Unlikely to happen here but it would be the same. I'm sure if at a
conference or the grocery store if someone was talking about an unschooling
group that neglected their children you would just think, oh yes I know about
those kinds of unschoolers and I'm not that kind and nod and smile as they
continued telling you how horrible these particular unschooler were? >>
VERY bad analogy, especially as it almost exactly parallels the example I
already gave of having (for years) had to separate myself from the
homeschooling methods of so many Christian homeschoolers.
<<That's how it feels as a Christian to just be lumped in the Christian
homeschooling group with no distinction and to hear the horror stories.>>
It wasn't a horror story.
I will quote the beginning of your post:
<<> My original statement was no big deal and for it to spin off into
hundreds
> ofMy original statement concerned television viewing with sexual situations.
> posts defending Christians is ridiculous.
> >>
What sort of horror story are you fantasizing?
Sandra
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In a message dated 4/11/2003 6:26:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
homeschoolers".
The posts about rods of different sizes with names and whipping babies. The
posts about women being submissive to men and being abused in the name of
Christianity.
THOSE horror stories, not watching Dharma and Greg. You started out stating
that if you were fundamentalist Christian you wouldn't allow your child to
watch a certain show. Someone else, said hey I'm Christian, I allow it.
Then you became to tell about the "Christian homeschoolers" and the things
you know they do and how the treat their children. You grouped those who
don't watch certain shows with those who do all those horrible things that
have been talked about in the last couple days.
Others spoke out defending their right to be called a Christian
homeschooler/unschooler and not be grouped with people who behave that
radically.
glena
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> hear the horror storiesThe horror stories you led me to educate myself with regarding the "Christian
homeschoolers".
The posts about rods of different sizes with names and whipping babies. The
posts about women being submissive to men and being abused in the name of
Christianity.
THOSE horror stories, not watching Dharma and Greg. You started out stating
that if you were fundamentalist Christian you wouldn't allow your child to
watch a certain show. Someone else, said hey I'm Christian, I allow it.
Then you became to tell about the "Christian homeschoolers" and the things
you know they do and how the treat their children. You grouped those who
don't watch certain shows with those who do all those horrible things that
have been talked about in the last couple days.
Others spoke out defending their right to be called a Christian
homeschooler/unschooler and not be grouped with people who behave that
radically.
glena
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Mary
From: <SandraDodd@...>
<<But you're saying it so strongly and so repeatedly you MUST mean something
by it.>>
I mean to make my point understood as things here have really gotten
misconstrued.
<<My original statement was no big deal and for it to spin off into hundreds
of posts defending Christians is ridiculous.>>
I agree.
Mary B
<<But you're saying it so strongly and so repeatedly you MUST mean something
by it.>>
I mean to make my point understood as things here have really gotten
misconstrued.
<<My original statement was no big deal and for it to spin off into hundreds
of posts defending Christians is ridiculous.>>
I agree.
Mary B
[email protected]
-=-> hear the horror stories
The horror stories you led me to educate myself with regarding the "Christian
homeschoolers".-=-
Oh.
Well, if you hadn't made so much noise about not understanding I wouldn't
have had to show you the bodies.
<< You grouped those who
don't watch certain shows with those who do all those horrible things that
have been talked about in the last couple days. >>
No. I said those who are homeschooling because they are fundamentalist
Christians would have no problem deciding what shows their kids would watch.
It would be nothing but Little House on the Prairie or Bonanza. And I said
why.
If I were one of them, my choice would be easy. Holly would not be allowed
to watch sitcoms where unmarried people have sex (Friends), or where married
people talk about it (Dharma and Greg).
When you don't understand something, it's really okay, sometimes, to just
listen and think, or to go to google.com and look some things up.
Sandra
The horror stories you led me to educate myself with regarding the "Christian
homeschoolers".-=-
Oh.
Well, if you hadn't made so much noise about not understanding I wouldn't
have had to show you the bodies.
<< You grouped those who
don't watch certain shows with those who do all those horrible things that
have been talked about in the last couple days. >>
No. I said those who are homeschooling because they are fundamentalist
Christians would have no problem deciding what shows their kids would watch.
It would be nothing but Little House on the Prairie or Bonanza. And I said
why.
If I were one of them, my choice would be easy. Holly would not be allowed
to watch sitcoms where unmarried people have sex (Friends), or where married
people talk about it (Dharma and Greg).
When you don't understand something, it's really okay, sometimes, to just
listen and think, or to go to google.com and look some things up.
Sandra
[email protected]
**So if someone said "if I were one of those unschoolers, my kids would just
lay at home and be ignorant because I don't expose them to anything but the
home and their family" There are some people out there that claim to be
unschooler but yet their kids experience nothing of life and are basically
uneducated. I have seen these children. Two families come to mind, if I
thought longer about my experiences in the past I might come up with more.**
Are they writing in magazines, speaking at conferences, publishing books,
holding seminars, and otherwise holding forth their beliefs and practices as
being TRUE unschooling? If so, they're as dangerous to me as the actions of
the Christian Homeschoolers (as opposed to christians who homeschool) and it
would be important to me as an unschooler to know that these people are out
there and what they're doing.
Deborah in IL
lay at home and be ignorant because I don't expose them to anything but the
home and their family" There are some people out there that claim to be
unschooler but yet their kids experience nothing of life and are basically
uneducated. I have seen these children. Two families come to mind, if I
thought longer about my experiences in the past I might come up with more.**
Are they writing in magazines, speaking at conferences, publishing books,
holding seminars, and otherwise holding forth their beliefs and practices as
being TRUE unschooling? If so, they're as dangerous to me as the actions of
the Christian Homeschoolers (as opposed to christians who homeschool) and it
would be important to me as an unschooler to know that these people are out
there and what they're doing.
Deborah in IL
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/11/2003 9:25:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
glena
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> When you don't understand something, it's really okay, sometimes, to justAnd it's OK to question too, or maybe not?
> listen and think, or to go to google.com and look some things up.
>
glena
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In a message dated 4/12/03 7:14:15 PM, rubyprincesstsg@... writes:
<< When you don't understand something, it's really okay, sometimes, to just
<< it's really okay, sometimes, to just
Sometimes read.
You don't have to ask your question over and over and over and over.
Sometimes just think.
Sandra
<< When you don't understand something, it's really okay, sometimes, to just
> listen and think, or to go to google.com and look some things up.<<And it's OK to question too, or maybe not?>>
>
<< it's really okay, sometimes, to just
> listen and think>>You don't have to ask a question about EVERYTHING.
Sometimes read.
You don't have to ask your question over and over and over and over.
Sometimes just think.
Sandra
Kristen seitz
I wonder if glena "thinks" out loud?
Kristen
Kristen
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From: SandraDodd@...
Date: Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:47 pm
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In a message dated 4/12/03 9:25:42 PM, litlrooh@... writes:
<< I wonder if glena "thinks" out loud? >>
Maybe so, but do 1100 people have to read it?
There is journaling. There is talking to oneself.
Sandra
<< I wonder if glena "thinks" out loud? >>
Maybe so, but do 1100 people have to read it?
There is journaling. There is talking to oneself.
Sandra
Mary
From: <SandraDodd@...>
<<You don't have to ask a question about EVERYTHING.
Sometimes read.
You don't have to ask your question over and over and over and over.
Sometimes just think.>>
And sometimes it's just best to not comment on some posts at all. Especially
if it's something someone does that works for them that doesn't go against
unschooling and harms no one.
In unschooling I like to think that sometimes the best word is no word at
all.
Mary B
<<You don't have to ask a question about EVERYTHING.
Sometimes read.
You don't have to ask your question over and over and over and over.
Sometimes just think.>>
And sometimes it's just best to not comment on some posts at all. Especially
if it's something someone does that works for them that doesn't go against
unschooling and harms no one.
In unschooling I like to think that sometimes the best word is no word at
all.
Mary B
Mary
From: <SandraDodd@...>
<<In a message dated 4/12/03 9:25:42 PM, litlrooh@... writes:
I wonder if glena "thinks" out loud? >>
<<Maybe so, but do 1100 people have to read it?
There is journaling. There is talking to oneself.>>
I would like to imagine that there are other people out there just thrilled
that someone had the nerve to ask the question they have been wanting to. I
would give it the benefit of the doubt to think she's helping someone on
this list besides herself. And even if it's just helping one person, isn't
that more than none at all? If some posters really bother others, there's
the one and only delete key.
Mary B
<<In a message dated 4/12/03 9:25:42 PM, litlrooh@... writes:
I wonder if glena "thinks" out loud? >>
<<Maybe so, but do 1100 people have to read it?
There is journaling. There is talking to oneself.>>
I would like to imagine that there are other people out there just thrilled
that someone had the nerve to ask the question they have been wanting to. I
would give it the benefit of the doubt to think she's helping someone on
this list besides herself. And even if it's just helping one person, isn't
that more than none at all? If some posters really bother others, there's
the one and only delete key.
Mary B
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In a message dated 4/12/2003 11:25:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
litlrooh@... writes:
not a manual for unschooling group. A discussion group.
Discussion involves two way communication. Otherwise you simply sit read and
get taught someone else's methods, just like in school, many times not
knowing the how's and whys behind the lesson your read about and are trying
to learn or implement.
Just as I've seen here if you don't want to read it, hit the delete key. I
don't care if some choose to hit delete every time they see my screen name in
an email. Won't bother me any.
There are 1100 people here. I know others are afraid or too intimidated to
ask something or to then follow it up with a WHY. I've gotten private emails
too. Doesn't bother me. I am in charge or responding or not.
You are in charge of your delete key. You don't want to read what I type,
use it.
I am LEARNING, learning LOTS about unschooling and things that I can do
better. I am learning there are groups of people who threaten unschooling.
People need to be aware if what they are doing can be taken away. It's
important. I'm glad I asked.
I'm learning. You don't learn without any feedback. It might be just my
learning style but if my child approached me about a subject I would tell
them go read and read some more, then listen but don't speak, then after you
are sure you know everything THEN I'll listen to what you have to say. That
isn't discussion. It might be a form of learning but not one I recognize.
If my child came to me excited about learning something they KNEW was going
to make them a better person and change their lives I would want to hear
about it and if asked, tell they what I thought about this life changing
thing they had found. I'd enjoy the experience WITH them, a two way
interchange.
But that's just ME. Reading reading reading and listening might be the way
to go. but if the reader and listener cannot comment on what she is hearing
or reading to those who are the experts I'm sure there are going to be
misinformed and take a lot longer than if she had asked questions.
Use the delete key, I don't care, I really don't. 1100 people, some
questions are bound to be something someone else might want to
answer/hear/discuss. If no one is interested, there you go...no discussion.
glena
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litlrooh@... writes:
> I wonder if glena "thinks" out loud?I've read over and over that this is a DISCUSSION group, not a support group,
>
>
not a manual for unschooling group. A discussion group.
Discussion involves two way communication. Otherwise you simply sit read and
get taught someone else's methods, just like in school, many times not
knowing the how's and whys behind the lesson your read about and are trying
to learn or implement.
Just as I've seen here if you don't want to read it, hit the delete key. I
don't care if some choose to hit delete every time they see my screen name in
an email. Won't bother me any.
There are 1100 people here. I know others are afraid or too intimidated to
ask something or to then follow it up with a WHY. I've gotten private emails
too. Doesn't bother me. I am in charge or responding or not.
You are in charge of your delete key. You don't want to read what I type,
use it.
I am LEARNING, learning LOTS about unschooling and things that I can do
better. I am learning there are groups of people who threaten unschooling.
People need to be aware if what they are doing can be taken away. It's
important. I'm glad I asked.
I'm learning. You don't learn without any feedback. It might be just my
learning style but if my child approached me about a subject I would tell
them go read and read some more, then listen but don't speak, then after you
are sure you know everything THEN I'll listen to what you have to say. That
isn't discussion. It might be a form of learning but not one I recognize.
If my child came to me excited about learning something they KNEW was going
to make them a better person and change their lives I would want to hear
about it and if asked, tell they what I thought about this life changing
thing they had found. I'd enjoy the experience WITH them, a two way
interchange.
But that's just ME. Reading reading reading and listening might be the way
to go. but if the reader and listener cannot comment on what she is hearing
or reading to those who are the experts I'm sure there are going to be
misinformed and take a lot longer than if she had asked questions.
Use the delete key, I don't care, I really don't. 1100 people, some
questions are bound to be something someone else might want to
answer/hear/discuss. If no one is interested, there you go...no discussion.
glena
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Pamela Sorooshian
It is nice when people ask questions, but not so nice for the list when
they start out defending and arguing. Maybe we could skip right to the
questioning next time?
-pam
they start out defending and arguing. Maybe we could skip right to the
questioning next time?
-pam
On Saturday, April 12, 2003, at 06:11 PM, rubyprincesstsg@... wrote:
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>
> And it's OK to question too, or maybe not?
Have a Nice Day!
<< I wonder if glena "thinks" out loud? >>
Maybe so, but do 1100 people have to read it?<<<<
Well, no, but then there is a delete key. I don't know but maybe some of the 1100 who don't necessarily post as often want to read it. How do we know they don't?
How do we know *they* aren't learning anything from the discussion?
Kristen
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Maybe so, but do 1100 people have to read it?<<<<
Well, no, but then there is a delete key. I don't know but maybe some of the 1100 who don't necessarily post as often want to read it. How do we know they don't?
How do we know *they* aren't learning anything from the discussion?
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