The Most Exciting Thing (Re: new member intro)
Nora or Devereaux Cannon
Never lie to your kids - if algebra makes you want to schedule a
root canal instead, you may as well say so upfront. You can
honestly say "I never really got it, but lots of folks do and
love it. It certainly seems to come in handy for some things; I
have always been aware that there was a hole in my knowledge
because I don't get it. If you want to learn it, I bet you can
do so without more effort than it is worth" or something
similar.
root canal instead, you may as well say so upfront. You can
honestly say "I never really got it, but lots of folks do and
love it. It certainly seems to come in handy for some things; I
have always been aware that there was a hole in my knowledge
because I don't get it. If you want to learn it, I bet you can
do so without more effort than it is worth" or something
similar.
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From: <rubyprincesstsg@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] new member intro
| In a message dated 4/7/2003 2:25:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
| ecsamhill@... writes:
|
| > Sit down with an algebra book or game yourself and brush up
your algebra
| > so you can answer your daughter's questions, later.
| >
| > Go to www.hsc.org and look for last year's conference tapes
and buy
| > Pam's tapes on "Mathematical Joy"?
| >
| > Try and convince your librarian to buy Frank Smith's book
about math
| > learning, The Glass Wall?
| >
| > (Someone will probably argue with at least half of these
ideas. They
| > may not all be good idea.)
| >
| Thank you, you've given me some place to start, even if
tomorrow she came and
| said "so what about this algebra" I want to be able to make my
answer sound
| like it is THE most exciting thing she could possibly think of
at that
| moment.
|
| Maybe it's just trying to NOT sound like oh, ALGe BRa...well...
Ok...
|
| Thanks again for the ideas!
|
| glena
|
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Pamela Sorooshian
On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 01:43 PM, Nora or Devereaux Cannon wrote:
consider how I acted about it. I'll write about swimming - but it
applies to math, too.
It isn't going to hurt anything if you don't like to swim IF you make
up for it by enjoying your child liking to swim and cheerfully
supporting his/her attempts and facilitating lots of opportunities. But
if you don't like to swim and every time it comes up you shudder and
grimace and you don't take your kids places where swimming might be
involved and if you have to you are tense and anxious and and then you
feel bad about that so you sign them up for swimming lessons which they
hate and then that justifies it all - they don't like swimming either -
you'd have been a whole lot better off to pretend you think it is
pretty cool to go swimming even though you don't do much of it yourself.
-pam
> Never lie to your kids - if algebra makes you want to schedule aSuppose you think learning math is a good thing - then I'd carefully
> root canal instead, you may as well say so upfront.
consider how I acted about it. I'll write about swimming - but it
applies to math, too.
It isn't going to hurt anything if you don't like to swim IF you make
up for it by enjoying your child liking to swim and cheerfully
supporting his/her attempts and facilitating lots of opportunities. But
if you don't like to swim and every time it comes up you shudder and
grimace and you don't take your kids places where swimming might be
involved and if you have to you are tense and anxious and and then you
feel bad about that so you sign them up for swimming lessons which they
hate and then that justifies it all - they don't like swimming either -
you'd have been a whole lot better off to pretend you think it is
pretty cool to go swimming even though you don't do much of it yourself.
-pam
Nora or Devereaux Cannon
I agree - your example is the other end of what I was talking
about. A false cheerfulness that algebra is the greatest (if you
hate it) is like a sugar coated "The shot won't hurt at all" - a
weeping and wailing of "Oh my Poor Baby has to have a big
horrible needle full of penicillin, just because of a little ole
pneumonia bug" just creates excess fear. Matter of fact honesty
isn't always easy - but it is always the best in the long run.
about. A false cheerfulness that algebra is the greatest (if you
hate it) is like a sugar coated "The shot won't hurt at all" - a
weeping and wailing of "Oh my Poor Baby has to have a big
horrible needle full of penicillin, just because of a little ole
pneumonia bug" just creates excess fear. Matter of fact honesty
isn't always easy - but it is always the best in the long run.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela Sorooshian" <pamsoroosh@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The Most Exciting Thing (Re:
new member intro)
|
| On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 01:43 PM, Nora or Devereaux Cannon
wrote:
|
| > Never lie to your kids - if algebra makes you want to
schedule a
| > root canal instead, you may as well say so upfront.
|
| Suppose you think learning math is a good thing - then I'd
carefully
| consider how I acted about it. I'll write about swimming - but
it
| applies to math, too.
|
| It isn't going to hurt anything if you don't like to swim IF
you make
| up for it by enjoying your child liking to swim and cheerfully
| supporting his/her attempts and facilitating lots of
opportunities. But
| if you don't like to swim and every time it comes up you
shudder and
| grimace and you don't take your kids places where swimming
might be
| involved and if you have to you are tense and anxious and and
then you
| feel bad about that so you sign them up for swimming lessons
which they
| hate and then that justifies it all - they don't like swimming
either -
| you'd have been a whole lot better off to pretend you think it
is
| pretty cool to go swimming even though you don't do much of it
yourself.
|
| -pam
|
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coyote's corner
I totally agree. I have always been honest w/ Brianna. She, in turn, is - hopefully -always honest w/ me.
As some of you may know, Brianna is my granddaughter. Her mother - my daughter- has two other kids w/ a man not Brianna's father. He's black. The 6 y.o. - who is obviously bi-racial has been told that her dad (the black man) is Brianna's dad. Obviously this is something that the 6 y.o. will come to know is a lie. It's obvious by simply looking at the girls!!
My daughter is very upset that Brianna & I will not lie about this. In fact, my daughter has 'talked' to Brianna and feels that Brianna is disrespecting her by not being dishonest.
Brianna listens - then usually says that her relationship w/ her sisters is between her ( Brianna) and them. Not their mother.She says also that she will not lie to them. I'm so proud of Brianna for this because she kind of is afraid that she'll not see her mother because of it. (Once time we didn't hear from her for over ten months!)
She has the strength to do this because she knows that she doesn't have to lie. She knows this because I don't lie to her.
I am amazed how 'simple' this whole child rearing thing is -Be the adult you want your kids to be.
Janis
As some of you may know, Brianna is my granddaughter. Her mother - my daughter- has two other kids w/ a man not Brianna's father. He's black. The 6 y.o. - who is obviously bi-racial has been told that her dad (the black man) is Brianna's dad. Obviously this is something that the 6 y.o. will come to know is a lie. It's obvious by simply looking at the girls!!
My daughter is very upset that Brianna & I will not lie about this. In fact, my daughter has 'talked' to Brianna and feels that Brianna is disrespecting her by not being dishonest.
Brianna listens - then usually says that her relationship w/ her sisters is between her ( Brianna) and them. Not their mother.She says also that she will not lie to them. I'm so proud of Brianna for this because she kind of is afraid that she'll not see her mother because of it. (Once time we didn't hear from her for over ten months!)
She has the strength to do this because she knows that she doesn't have to lie. She knows this because I don't lie to her.
I am amazed how 'simple' this whole child rearing thing is -Be the adult you want your kids to be.
Janis
----- Original Message -----
From: Nora or Devereaux Cannon
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The Most Exciting Thing (Re: new member intro)
I agree - your example is the other end of what I was talking
about. A false cheerfulness that algebra is the greatest (if you
hate it) is like a sugar coated "The shot won't hurt at all" - a
weeping and wailing of "Oh my Poor Baby has to have a big
horrible needle full of penicillin, just because of a little ole
pneumonia bug" just creates excess fear. Matter of fact honesty
isn't always easy - but it is always the best in the long run.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela Sorooshian" <pamsoroosh@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The Most Exciting Thing (Re:
new member intro)
|
| On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 01:43 PM, Nora or Devereaux Cannon
wrote:
|
| > Never lie to your kids - if algebra makes you want to
schedule a
| > root canal instead, you may as well say so upfront.
|
| Suppose you think learning math is a good thing - then I'd
carefully
| consider how I acted about it. I'll write about swimming - but
it
| applies to math, too.
|
| It isn't going to hurt anything if you don't like to swim IF
you make
| up for it by enjoying your child liking to swim and cheerfully
| supporting his/her attempts and facilitating lots of
opportunities. But
| if you don't like to swim and every time it comes up you
shudder and
| grimace and you don't take your kids places where swimming
might be
| involved and if you have to you are tense and anxious and and
then you
| feel bad about that so you sign them up for swimming lessons
which they
| hate and then that justifies it all - they don't like swimming
either -
| you'd have been a whole lot better off to pretend you think it
is
| pretty cool to go swimming even though you don't do much of it
yourself.
|
| -pam
|
|
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Bronwen
-Be the adult you want your kids to be.
on our local Uschoolers list? (could you e-mail me you last name if you
want?)
Bronwen
>Janis- you have a great way of saying things- I appreciate it. Can I post it
> Janis
on our local Uschoolers list? (could you e-mail me you last name if you
want?)
Bronwen
coyote's corner
Thanks so much!!
Sure, feel free to post it.
My last name is Calouro.
Sure, feel free to post it.
My last name is Calouro.
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From: Bronwen
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Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The Most Exciting Thing (Re: new member intro)
-Be the adult you want your kids to be.
>
> Janis
Janis- you have a great way of saying things- I appreciate it. Can I post it
on our local Uschoolers list? (could you e-mail me you last name if you
want?)
Bronwen
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