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>>>I really agree with this. I understand that I am new to this group but Ihave spent several months researching unschooling, homeschooling, I am an
educator, a mother to three kids including a ten year old and I am a social
worker. I remember one time taking my ten year old (who was 6 at the time) to
see a rated pg13 movie becuase she "really" wanted to see it. I thought and
thought about it and decided I should go with her and let her decide. It was
a huge mistake, she told me it was too scary for her and we left. Then for
months and even years later she said, "Mommy why would you let me see a movie
like that, I was not ready for that movie." She was right, she really was not
ready for that movie and it was my responsibility and my job as her mother to
make sure that she was developmentally ready for certain material. I feel
like I really liek this group of women because you are all independent
thinkers and that is great, I am too. However, I argue that as an independent
thinker and parent I tend to question what society's motivations are in media
and in the corporate world.<<<
Are you comfortable with her being a 22 year old blaming YOU because she went
to see a scary or stupid film? If you die tomorrow, whose approval would she
seek to watch some movie next month? It's about taking responsibility for our
choices. Who told YOU what you can and can't watch? And who tells you NOW?
If one of my boys were uncomfortable with scary or violent movies, and we had
discussed it, and he had asked me to help him decide whether a movie would be
appropriate, we would discuss the movie and I'd let him make an informed
decision. If I said no because I thought it was too scary or violent, and he
found out later that it was lame OR if I said yes, and he went and was scared
and blamed ME------Both are examples of MY decisions and both are wrong---and
he may not trust my opinions of movies again.
If we checked them out and I let him decide---yes, he *could* be frightened
and upset for a while (or forever), but then he would KNOW what he thinks he
can or cannot watch. And he could alter that as he got older.
When Cameron was eight or ten or so, he wanted to watch Braveheart. I knew of
the torture scene at the end (not to mention the battle scenes)---and I
thought he might be frightened. We rented it, and I asked him to leave for
the torture scene. Ben and I watched it and realized it was IMPLIED torture,
but not graphic. We rewound it, told him what to expect, and asked whether he
thought he could handle it. He thought so, so we did. He was fine.
By making all our children's difficult decisions FOR them (or even *some* of
the *important* decisions), they can quickly become incapable of making
INFORMED decisions themselves.
I may certainly voice my opinion, but because I've never FORCED my opinion on
them, my children are happy to listen to me (most of the time! <G>).
~Kelly, the old
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--- In [email protected], kbcdlovejo@a... wrote:
But there are other ways to achieve those goals other than outright
saying "You can't see this movie, you're not ready for it." For
instance, both of my kids (3 and 6) adored the first Lord of the
Rings movie, which they watched on DVD. The first time they watched
it, they asked me to fast-forward past parts they thought were too
scary. After a few times of doing this, and after watching all the
documentaries that showed how the scary orcs were created, they were
fine with watching the whole thing. Now they both want to see the Two
Towers, and my oldest wanted to see it in the theatre. I told him I
would go and check it out and tell him what I thought. After seeing
it, I told him that I thought it wasn't as scary as the first one (it
didn't have as many "gotcha" scenes), but that I thought with the
sound and large screen, he might feel very overwhelmed seeing it in a
theatre and might find it too scary. He thought about it for awhile
and decided to wait to see it on DVD. I think part of the reason that
he felt comfortable making that decision is that he trusts me to give
him accurate information based on his responses to previous movies.
He knows that I'm not saying "You can't watch this because it's too
freaky" but that I'm trying to give him the most accurate picture
possible of what he can expect.
It's not really any different than what I'd do for my husband. He has
a hard time with a lot of suspense/horror movies. I watched "The
Sixth Sense" first, and told him what he could expect and that I
thought he'd really like it but it had a few "gotcha" parts and I'd
tell him when they are coming up. OTOH, he will never, ever want to
see "Blair Witch Project" and has told me to go ahead and see it on
my own. Being freaked out by certain kinds of movies is not limited
to children. Helping give good factual information, whether to my
husband or to my kids, is respecting them *and* helping them decide
whether they can handle any particular movie.
The hardest time I have is when my kids want to see something that I
totally have no interest in seeing. If they rent it on DVD, that's
one thing, but if I have to sit through it in a theatre, that's
another. Making it through the Veggie Tales Jonah movie was a real
trial! DH fell asleep, but I thought at least one of us should stay
awake and make sure our 3 y.o. didn't wander out of the theatre. At
least with movies my DH likes that I don't (Happy Gilmore comes to
mind), I don't have to be there with him!
and previews are and also why they're put there. They've heard me use
the term 'gratuitous violence' and seem to understand that sometimes
violence in a movie is part of the plot line, and sometimes it's just
thrown in to have a fight scene. They know why toys are created from
movies, but sometimes still decide to buy them. I do believe in
giving them lots of information. I think one of the great things
about unschooling is that we are present in our children's lives and
thus have the opportunity to give them a lot of context for the
things that they see and hear.
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
>I remember one time taking my ten year old (who was 6 at the time)to
> see a rated pg13 movie becuase she "really" wanted to see it. Ithought and
> thought about it and decided I should go with her and let herdecide. It was
> a huge mistake, she told me it was too scary for her and we left.Then for
> months and even years later she said, "Mommy why would you let mesee a movie
> like that, I was not ready for that movie." She was right, shereally was not
> ready for that movie and it was my responsibility and my job as hermother to
> make sure that she was developmentally ready for certain material.I see your point and I also understand what your daughter was saying.
But there are other ways to achieve those goals other than outright
saying "You can't see this movie, you're not ready for it." For
instance, both of my kids (3 and 6) adored the first Lord of the
Rings movie, which they watched on DVD. The first time they watched
it, they asked me to fast-forward past parts they thought were too
scary. After a few times of doing this, and after watching all the
documentaries that showed how the scary orcs were created, they were
fine with watching the whole thing. Now they both want to see the Two
Towers, and my oldest wanted to see it in the theatre. I told him I
would go and check it out and tell him what I thought. After seeing
it, I told him that I thought it wasn't as scary as the first one (it
didn't have as many "gotcha" scenes), but that I thought with the
sound and large screen, he might feel very overwhelmed seeing it in a
theatre and might find it too scary. He thought about it for awhile
and decided to wait to see it on DVD. I think part of the reason that
he felt comfortable making that decision is that he trusts me to give
him accurate information based on his responses to previous movies.
He knows that I'm not saying "You can't watch this because it's too
freaky" but that I'm trying to give him the most accurate picture
possible of what he can expect.
It's not really any different than what I'd do for my husband. He has
a hard time with a lot of suspense/horror movies. I watched "The
Sixth Sense" first, and told him what he could expect and that I
thought he'd really like it but it had a few "gotcha" parts and I'd
tell him when they are coming up. OTOH, he will never, ever want to
see "Blair Witch Project" and has told me to go ahead and see it on
my own. Being freaked out by certain kinds of movies is not limited
to children. Helping give good factual information, whether to my
husband or to my kids, is respecting them *and* helping them decide
whether they can handle any particular movie.
The hardest time I have is when my kids want to see something that I
totally have no interest in seeing. If they rent it on DVD, that's
one thing, but if I have to sit through it in a theatre, that's
another. Making it through the Veggie Tales Jonah movie was a real
trial! DH fell asleep, but I thought at least one of us should stay
awake and make sure our 3 y.o. didn't wander out of the theatre. At
least with movies my DH likes that I don't (Happy Gilmore comes to
mind), I don't have to be there with him!
>I feelindependent
> like I really liek this group of women because you are all
> thinkers and that is great, I am too. However, I argue that as anindependent
> thinker and parent I tend to question what society's motivationsare in media
> and in the corporate world.<<<I do too, and I also discuss those with my kids. They know what ads
and previews are and also why they're put there. They've heard me use
the term 'gratuitous violence' and seem to understand that sometimes
violence in a movie is part of the plot line, and sometimes it's just
thrown in to have a fight scene. They know why toys are created from
movies, but sometimes still decide to buy them. I do believe in
giving them lots of information. I think one of the great things
about unschooling is that we are present in our children's lives and
thus have the opportunity to give them a lot of context for the
things that they see and hear.
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
the_clevengers
To my previous post I'd add that being in touch with what bothers our
children helps us to help them make good decisions about what to
watch. For instance, my son might not have any problem watching a
movie with a lot of blood and battle scenes like 'Gettysburg', but he
would be totally freaked out by the scene in 'The Bear' where the
baby bear's mother is killed by a falling rock, or the cruelty that
the men show toward the baby bear, keeping him tied up and taunting
him. My son gets very upset about animals being hurt. Sometimes I'm
really surprised by what will bother him in a movie. Both of my kids
found the movie "ET" very disturbing because of the way the children
treated each other and the fact that the adults were very detached
from their kids and left them alone. They were really upset when the
mother left the little girl alone in the house. They were also very
upset by the little robot being blown off of the spaceship in the
movie Silent Running. It either didn't register or didn't bother them
that one adult human murders a couple of others in the same movie,
but they cried about that robot for a week and found it very
disturbing.
So ratings aren't as helpful as really knowing what kinds of things
might scare or bother them, and talking with them frankly about what
is in a particular movie and what might be problematic for them. In
the examples above, the things that bothered them were not things
that could be predicted by movie ratings or level of violence or
graphic language or any other arbitrary indicator. It's things within
their own personality and experience that make some movies fine and
others disturbing. I'm sure they'll see "Spiderman" before they'd
ever want to watch "Dumbo".
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
children helps us to help them make good decisions about what to
watch. For instance, my son might not have any problem watching a
movie with a lot of blood and battle scenes like 'Gettysburg', but he
would be totally freaked out by the scene in 'The Bear' where the
baby bear's mother is killed by a falling rock, or the cruelty that
the men show toward the baby bear, keeping him tied up and taunting
him. My son gets very upset about animals being hurt. Sometimes I'm
really surprised by what will bother him in a movie. Both of my kids
found the movie "ET" very disturbing because of the way the children
treated each other and the fact that the adults were very detached
from their kids and left them alone. They were really upset when the
mother left the little girl alone in the house. They were also very
upset by the little robot being blown off of the spaceship in the
movie Silent Running. It either didn't register or didn't bother them
that one adult human murders a couple of others in the same movie,
but they cried about that robot for a week and found it very
disturbing.
So ratings aren't as helpful as really knowing what kinds of things
might scare or bother them, and talking with them frankly about what
is in a particular movie and what might be problematic for them. In
the examples above, the things that bothered them were not things
that could be predicted by movie ratings or level of violence or
graphic language or any other arbitrary indicator. It's things within
their own personality and experience that make some movies fine and
others disturbing. I'm sure they'll see "Spiderman" before they'd
ever want to watch "Dumbo".
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
zenmomma *
>>I'm sure they'll see "Spiderman" before they'd ever want to watchFor Conor it was "Bambi." <shudder> There was no way he wanted to watch
>>"Dumbo".>>
anything where the mom dies. He was very sensitive to our relationship and
couldn't handle the idea of a mom being gone. (Still is actually.) Come to
think of it, I'm very disturbed by movies where mothers are separated form
their children.
Life is good.
~Mary
"The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the green
earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling truly alive."
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<< She was right, she really was not
ready for that movie and it was my responsibility and my job as her mother to
make sure that she was developmentally ready for certain material. >>
I liked Kelly's responses about children's responsibility and about the
dangers of the mother taking and then accepting responsibility (for years)
for what a child might or might not like.
Through this whole discussion I've been talking about video, DVD, television.
Those things are safe at home, easy to walk away from. I was never talking
about taking a six year old to a movie theatre with big speakers vibrating
their chairs and overwhelming two-hour presentations of anything they weren't
comfortable with.
Home. Video. Pause/rewind/discuss/walk out.
If kids could walk in and out of movie theatres freely, they might find some
things that made them uncomfortable, or find that some kinds of movies
weren't really scary for them.
But I can't "make sure she is developmentally ready," speaking of my own
daughter. She becomes developmentally ready by developing at her own pace.
I don't know what her pace is in advance. Neither does she.
Neither does anyone else.
There is no set order of what will or won't upset a child. Nor an adult! I
don't like sudden frights in movies. When the guy came through the window in
The Bourne Identity, that was NOT fun for me. The car chase was cool,
because the stunts were great, and different, and unlike lots of car chases
it wasn't a mass of wrecks, but a series of avoidances. It was cool.
Had I just been in a car accident lately, the car chase would have been
painful. If I enjoyed the sudden adrenaline of surprise, the guy breaking
through the big window would've been fun.
I'm not liking broken leg scenes lately. Will Penny, 1967, Charlton Heston
movie. La la la, DOH! A guy broke his leg. I'm not having fun. I'm
temporarily not developmentally ready to deal with broken legs. <g>
My friend Carrie will never be ready to deal with snake movies, so all
reviews of movies for her involve telling her when to look away or go to the
bathroom because there's going to be a snake. Or "Funny. No snakes!" That's
a good review for her.
The people who put ratings up don't know my kids. They don't know that
language doesn't bother them but mean parents spanking or a child being
locked up or grounded to miss something really important and him crying would
NOT be a scene they could watch without being truly upset. What would those
movies be rated for "child with broken heart is portrayed graphically"?
Sometimes we rent a movie we think Holly would rather not see and we say so.
Because she trusts us, and we trust her, and we know her really well and know
what upsets her, she believes us. If she needs to come through the room
she'll say "Is this a scary part?"
That's happened maybe three or four times ever.
More often we start watching something, she wanders in and either decides
it's good, or too boring, or too scary, and goes away. Same as adults do.
Keith walked away from Sweet Home Alabama because he really hates duplicitous
characters and situations. I walked away from Vanishing Point to which I had
been called because it had Viggo Mortensen ( 1997 remake). I watched for ten
minutes and decided to turn it off, because I don't like high-speed macho car
fantasy.
No one decided it for me.
Holly and her friend, when they were six, walked in on me sewing and watching
Twelfth Night. I told them it was a Shakespeare play. "What's it about?"
When I said twins, shipwreck and costume, they sat down. I thought they
would get bored and go away, but they stayed to the end. Not because it was
educational or required or the movie wasn't over yet, because we were ten
yards from all of Holly's toys, twenty yards from a swingset on a nice day,
and Kelly's house was across the street. With all those options, they
watched Shakespeare.
Nobody's developmental chart would have predicted that.
Sandra
ready for that movie and it was my responsibility and my job as her mother to
make sure that she was developmentally ready for certain material. >>
I liked Kelly's responses about children's responsibility and about the
dangers of the mother taking and then accepting responsibility (for years)
for what a child might or might not like.
Through this whole discussion I've been talking about video, DVD, television.
Those things are safe at home, easy to walk away from. I was never talking
about taking a six year old to a movie theatre with big speakers vibrating
their chairs and overwhelming two-hour presentations of anything they weren't
comfortable with.
Home. Video. Pause/rewind/discuss/walk out.
If kids could walk in and out of movie theatres freely, they might find some
things that made them uncomfortable, or find that some kinds of movies
weren't really scary for them.
But I can't "make sure she is developmentally ready," speaking of my own
daughter. She becomes developmentally ready by developing at her own pace.
I don't know what her pace is in advance. Neither does she.
Neither does anyone else.
There is no set order of what will or won't upset a child. Nor an adult! I
don't like sudden frights in movies. When the guy came through the window in
The Bourne Identity, that was NOT fun for me. The car chase was cool,
because the stunts were great, and different, and unlike lots of car chases
it wasn't a mass of wrecks, but a series of avoidances. It was cool.
Had I just been in a car accident lately, the car chase would have been
painful. If I enjoyed the sudden adrenaline of surprise, the guy breaking
through the big window would've been fun.
I'm not liking broken leg scenes lately. Will Penny, 1967, Charlton Heston
movie. La la la, DOH! A guy broke his leg. I'm not having fun. I'm
temporarily not developmentally ready to deal with broken legs. <g>
My friend Carrie will never be ready to deal with snake movies, so all
reviews of movies for her involve telling her when to look away or go to the
bathroom because there's going to be a snake. Or "Funny. No snakes!" That's
a good review for her.
The people who put ratings up don't know my kids. They don't know that
language doesn't bother them but mean parents spanking or a child being
locked up or grounded to miss something really important and him crying would
NOT be a scene they could watch without being truly upset. What would those
movies be rated for "child with broken heart is portrayed graphically"?
Sometimes we rent a movie we think Holly would rather not see and we say so.
Because she trusts us, and we trust her, and we know her really well and know
what upsets her, she believes us. If she needs to come through the room
she'll say "Is this a scary part?"
That's happened maybe three or four times ever.
More often we start watching something, she wanders in and either decides
it's good, or too boring, or too scary, and goes away. Same as adults do.
Keith walked away from Sweet Home Alabama because he really hates duplicitous
characters and situations. I walked away from Vanishing Point to which I had
been called because it had Viggo Mortensen ( 1997 remake). I watched for ten
minutes and decided to turn it off, because I don't like high-speed macho car
fantasy.
No one decided it for me.
Holly and her friend, when they were six, walked in on me sewing and watching
Twelfth Night. I told them it was a Shakespeare play. "What's it about?"
When I said twins, shipwreck and costume, they sat down. I thought they
would get bored and go away, but they stayed to the end. Not because it was
educational or required or the movie wasn't over yet, because we were ten
yards from all of Holly's toys, twenty yards from a swingset on a nice day,
and Kelly's house was across the street. With all those options, they
watched Shakespeare.
Nobody's developmental chart would have predicted that.
Sandra
sablehs
SandraDodd@... wrote:
<<Through this whole discussion I've been talking about video, DVD, television. >>
Same here. In fact we rarely have enough money {and i like the comfort of home} to go to the movies but we rent a lot. And if we really like {or it's a really good deal on a previously viewed video we will buy it.
<<There is no set order of what will or won't upset a child. Nor an adult! I
don't like sudden frights in movies.>>
Also my personal experiance. I can watch action, and some blood doesn't bother me. But movies like Friday the 13th or Jaws {I saw when i was 6 and my dad knowing I was scared made me sit through this at the movies}.
I'm not liking broken leg scenes lately. Will Penny, 1967, Charlton Heston
movie. La la la, DOH! A guy broke his leg. I'm not having fun.
LOL so you don't want to see Mel gibson in Payback anytime soon then??? I admit that sorta thing makes my husband and I cringe. I think we are a bit empathetic that way. <G>
Tracy
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<<Through this whole discussion I've been talking about video, DVD, television. >>
Same here. In fact we rarely have enough money {and i like the comfort of home} to go to the movies but we rent a lot. And if we really like {or it's a really good deal on a previously viewed video we will buy it.
<<There is no set order of what will or won't upset a child. Nor an adult! I
don't like sudden frights in movies.>>
Also my personal experiance. I can watch action, and some blood doesn't bother me. But movies like Friday the 13th or Jaws {I saw when i was 6 and my dad knowing I was scared made me sit through this at the movies}.
I'm not liking broken leg scenes lately. Will Penny, 1967, Charlton Heston
movie. La la la, DOH! A guy broke his leg. I'm not having fun.
LOL so you don't want to see Mel gibson in Payback anytime soon then??? I admit that sorta thing makes my husband and I cringe. I think we are a bit empathetic that way. <G>
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In a message dated 3/31/03 10:17:13 AM, diamondair@... writes:
<< The hardest time I have is when my kids want to see something that I
totally have no interest in seeing. If they rent it on DVD, that's
one thing, but if I have to sit through it in a theatre, that's
another. >>
Our whole family sat through "Dude, Where's My Car?"
It wasn't a very good movie, but in retrospect there are a couple of running
jokes from that, and then all the kids got the joke in a piece of send-around
e-mail about the title of The Lord of the Rings being renamed which was
Ashton Kuchner (allegedly) suggesting "Dude, Where's My Precious?"
So even a dud can be salvaged in some ways.
That would have been another good one to watch on video instead of in a real
theatre.
Sandra
<< The hardest time I have is when my kids want to see something that I
totally have no interest in seeing. If they rent it on DVD, that's
one thing, but if I have to sit through it in a theatre, that's
another. >>
Our whole family sat through "Dude, Where's My Car?"
It wasn't a very good movie, but in retrospect there are a couple of running
jokes from that, and then all the kids got the joke in a piece of send-around
e-mail about the title of The Lord of the Rings being renamed which was
Ashton Kuchner (allegedly) suggesting "Dude, Where's My Precious?"
So even a dud can be salvaged in some ways.
That would have been another good one to watch on video instead of in a real
theatre.
Sandra
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In a message dated 3/31/03 11:13:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kbcdlovejo@... writes:
getting a few messages these days, not sure why. But I try to help my boys
decide what they would like to watch. We talk about movies before we go see
them. I don't make the choice for them. And the decision about a certain
movie isn't based entirely ont he rating. I remember when LOTR first came
out I was a little leary about taking my then 5 and 7 year olds to see it.
But they wanted to go so we all went together. They so enjoyed it, bought
the movie and watched it several more times. When the LOTR TT came out we
went to that as well and all enjoyed it. We would have missed out on that
movie if I had said "it isn't rated G and i think you are too young to see
it". If they had started to look a little scared, and I did ask a couple of
times if they would like to leave, we would have discussed it and left if
they wanted.
Pam G.
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kbcdlovejo@... writes:
> >>>I really agree with this. I understand that I am new to this group but II am so sorry for quoting from another post not the original but I am only
> have spent several months researching unschooling, homeschooling, I am an
> educator, a mother to three kids including a ten year old and I am a social
>
> worker. I remember one time taking my ten year old (who was 6 at the time)
> to
> see a rated pg13 movie becuase she "really" wanted to see it. I thought and
>
> thought about it and decided I should go with her and let her decide. It
> was
> a huge mistake, she told me it was too scary for her and we left. Then for
> months and even years later she said, "Mommy why would you let me see a
> movie
>
getting a few messages these days, not sure why. But I try to help my boys
decide what they would like to watch. We talk about movies before we go see
them. I don't make the choice for them. And the decision about a certain
movie isn't based entirely ont he rating. I remember when LOTR first came
out I was a little leary about taking my then 5 and 7 year olds to see it.
But they wanted to go so we all went together. They so enjoyed it, bought
the movie and watched it several more times. When the LOTR TT came out we
went to that as well and all enjoyed it. We would have missed out on that
movie if I had said "it isn't rated G and i think you are too young to see
it". If they had started to look a little scared, and I did ask a couple of
times if they would like to leave, we would have discussed it and left if
they wanted.
Pam G.
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In a message dated 3/31/03 6:18:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
kid movies, they are not too thrilling for me. I just took Ethan and JP to
see Agent Cody Banks.. ughghghgh.. But,they liked it, so thats OK.
On the flip side though, there are lots of "family" or kid movies that are
much much better than the "adult" movies out there. So, its great to have a
legitimate reason to go see The Emperors New Groove 5 times.. :-) .. Having
4 kids, I haven't missed a kid movie in at least 14 years.. MOST of them
were well worth the time and we always ended up buying them on video. Folks
who don't have kids, or don't watch kids movies are missing out on some great
films
Teresa
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> The hardest time I have is when my kids want to see something that IOh yeah, I have "suffered" through many flops. Or, even if they are popular
>
> totally have no interest in seeing. If they rent it on DVD, that's
>
> one thing, but if I have to sit through it in a theatre, that's
>
> another. >>
>
kid movies, they are not too thrilling for me. I just took Ethan and JP to
see Agent Cody Banks.. ughghghgh.. But,they liked it, so thats OK.
On the flip side though, there are lots of "family" or kid movies that are
much much better than the "adult" movies out there. So, its great to have a
legitimate reason to go see The Emperors New Groove 5 times.. :-) .. Having
4 kids, I haven't missed a kid movie in at least 14 years.. MOST of them
were well worth the time and we always ended up buying them on video. Folks
who don't have kids, or don't watch kids movies are missing out on some great
films
Teresa
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out there. "Jonah" is the only animated movie I've actively disliked
in a long time. But then my original chosen field of work was 3-D
animation, so anything by Pixar or companies like it are just drool-
city for me, and CGI is showing up in so many movies. Something like
Gollum in LOTR TT, just blows me away. I've sat through the Toy Story
movies (willingly) who knows how many times. And even better is that
they all come with so much great stuff on the bonus discs. My kids
and I have learned so much about hand-animation, computer-generated
stuff, props, costumes, actors, directors. On the Spy Kids II
commentary, they totally encouraged kids to start using digital video
and start making and editing their own movies. That really sparked
both of my kids' interest immediately. Wish we could afford a digital
video camera sometime in the very near future, but I know we'll get
one eventually and they'll love it.
Haven't seen The Emporor's New Groove yet, but I guess I'll add it to
our netflix list!
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
> On the flip side though, there are lots of "family" or kidmovies that are
> much much better than the "adult" movies out there. So, its greatto have a
> legitimate reason to go see The Emperors New Groove 5 times.. :-) .. Having
> 4 kids, I haven't missed a kid movie in at least 14 years.. MOSTof them
> were well worth the time and we always ended up buying them onvideo. Folks
> who don't have kids, or don't watch kids movies are missing out onsome great
> filmsYeah, that's really true. I'm amazed at the quality of stuff that's
out there. "Jonah" is the only animated movie I've actively disliked
in a long time. But then my original chosen field of work was 3-D
animation, so anything by Pixar or companies like it are just drool-
city for me, and CGI is showing up in so many movies. Something like
Gollum in LOTR TT, just blows me away. I've sat through the Toy Story
movies (willingly) who knows how many times. And even better is that
they all come with so much great stuff on the bonus discs. My kids
and I have learned so much about hand-animation, computer-generated
stuff, props, costumes, actors, directors. On the Spy Kids II
commentary, they totally encouraged kids to start using digital video
and start making and editing their own movies. That really sparked
both of my kids' interest immediately. Wish we could afford a digital
video camera sometime in the very near future, but I know we'll get
one eventually and they'll love it.
Haven't seen The Emporor's New Groove yet, but I guess I'll add it to
our netflix list!
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
the_clevengers
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<zenmomma@h...> wrote:
reason.
never watched. There are some things so disturbing, I just wish
they'd never been lodged in my brain.
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
<zenmomma@h...> wrote:
> For Conor it was "Bambi." <shudder> There was no way he wanted towatch
> anything where the mom dies.Oh, I remember that one really bothering *me* as a kid, for the same
reason.
> Come toseparated form
> think of it, I'm very disturbed by movies where mothers are
> their children.Yeah, Sophie's Choice heads up my personal list of movies I wish I'd
never watched. There are some things so disturbing, I just wish
they'd never been lodged in my brain.
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
Mary
From: "sablehs" <sablehs@...>
<<Also my personal experiance. I can watch action, and some blood doesn't
bother me. But movies like Friday the 13th or Jaws {I saw when i was 6 and
my dad knowing I was scared made me sit through this at the movies}.>>
I love blood and guts in the movies. Always have. Even when I was young. The
bloodier and gorier the better. Not sure why, it just fascinates me. I get
upset with movies that always film in the dark where you can't see what's
going on. I love slasher movies. At night when I have my down time and
everyone is in bed, I watch Discovery Health. Love the paramedic shows and
the operation shows. Now I know I'm just one person, but it's never
affected me in a negative way. It hasn't hardened me at all to what goes on
in the world. I'm not a violent person. I don't get really angry, I don't
hit or throw things if I get mad. So the violent gore studies about people
being effected by it doesn't wash with me.
Joe loves the same kind of movies I do, but when it comes to real life like
the DH channel, he doesn't like to watch. He's fine when he knows it's
pretend. I get emotional with real life stories, but I still like to watch.
Turn on the Soprano's and I find it revolting most of the time. So one
persons entertainment is another persons garbage. But I don't think it's
right for me to not allow Joe to watch Soprano's, I wouldn't like it if he
cut off a Jason movie I really wanted to see.
Mary B
<<Also my personal experiance. I can watch action, and some blood doesn't
bother me. But movies like Friday the 13th or Jaws {I saw when i was 6 and
my dad knowing I was scared made me sit through this at the movies}.>>
I love blood and guts in the movies. Always have. Even when I was young. The
bloodier and gorier the better. Not sure why, it just fascinates me. I get
upset with movies that always film in the dark where you can't see what's
going on. I love slasher movies. At night when I have my down time and
everyone is in bed, I watch Discovery Health. Love the paramedic shows and
the operation shows. Now I know I'm just one person, but it's never
affected me in a negative way. It hasn't hardened me at all to what goes on
in the world. I'm not a violent person. I don't get really angry, I don't
hit or throw things if I get mad. So the violent gore studies about people
being effected by it doesn't wash with me.
Joe loves the same kind of movies I do, but when it comes to real life like
the DH channel, he doesn't like to watch. He's fine when he knows it's
pretend. I get emotional with real life stories, but I still like to watch.
Turn on the Soprano's and I find it revolting most of the time. So one
persons entertainment is another persons garbage. But I don't think it's
right for me to not allow Joe to watch Soprano's, I wouldn't like it if he
cut off a Jason movie I really wanted to see.
Mary B
sablehs
Mary <mummy124@...> wrote:
<<At night when I have my down time and
everyone is in bed, I watch Discovery Health. Love the paramedic shows and
the operation shows. >>
Oh now, that I really enjoy too :) But I can't watch them like I'd like because that my husband can't stand that. I know {unless something with the anistethic goes horribly wrong, they are feeling no pain} Also, I tend to be highly pain tolerant too so that helps. So i can watch them cut,chisle, or whatever and that doesn't bother me.
I guess it's mainly the suspence thing for me. The stuff with ghosts or spirits bothered me in the past, but I guess I got over that with my present beliefs and feel more empowered.
<<Now I know I'm just one person, but it's never
affected me in a negative way. It hasn't hardened me at all to what goes on
in the world. I'm not a violent person. I don't get really angry, I don't
hit or throw things if I get mad. So the violent gore studies about people
being effected by it doesn't wash with me.>>
I agree. My husband enjoys it. And I don't let on too much to the kids what I don't like, so they will hopefully go in to it with their own perspective. My mother would go on and on about how she didn't like stuff. That is most likely a big part of my problem. But I am working on it and am better then I used to be.
I love stuff about animals and especially snakes, crocks, komoto dragons etc. I used to be terrified to let the kids out for the fear of snakes my mom so nicely enstilled into me. But CORRECT knowledge is power and I got over it. Haven't got my husband warmed up enough to them to have a snake {other then a eastern worm snake} in the house.
{still no spell check and I don't feel like breaking out my dictionary - sorry}
Tracy
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<<At night when I have my down time and
everyone is in bed, I watch Discovery Health. Love the paramedic shows and
the operation shows. >>
Oh now, that I really enjoy too :) But I can't watch them like I'd like because that my husband can't stand that. I know {unless something with the anistethic goes horribly wrong, they are feeling no pain} Also, I tend to be highly pain tolerant too so that helps. So i can watch them cut,chisle, or whatever and that doesn't bother me.
I guess it's mainly the suspence thing for me. The stuff with ghosts or spirits bothered me in the past, but I guess I got over that with my present beliefs and feel more empowered.
<<Now I know I'm just one person, but it's never
affected me in a negative way. It hasn't hardened me at all to what goes on
in the world. I'm not a violent person. I don't get really angry, I don't
hit or throw things if I get mad. So the violent gore studies about people
being effected by it doesn't wash with me.>>
I agree. My husband enjoys it. And I don't let on too much to the kids what I don't like, so they will hopefully go in to it with their own perspective. My mother would go on and on about how she didn't like stuff. That is most likely a big part of my problem. But I am working on it and am better then I used to be.
I love stuff about animals and especially snakes, crocks, komoto dragons etc. I used to be terrified to let the kids out for the fear of snakes my mom so nicely enstilled into me. But CORRECT knowledge is power and I got over it. Haven't got my husband warmed up enough to them to have a snake {other then a eastern worm snake} in the house.
{still no spell check and I don't feel like breaking out my dictionary - sorry}
Tracy
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Mary
From: "sablehs" <sablehs@...>
<<Oh now, that I really enjoy too :) But I can't watch them like I'd like
because that my husband can't stand that. I know {unless something with the
anistethic goes horribly wrong, they are feeling no pain} Also, I tend to be
highly pain tolerant too so that helps. So i can watch them cut,chisle, or
whatever and that doesn't bother me.>>
Well I can't say that it's the same with me. No high tolerance to pain here.
But I still enjoythem. The only time I cringe is when they do something with
the eyeball or facial plastic surgery where they pull the whole face all
around. Of course I still watch. <bg>
<<I agree. My husband enjoys it. And I don't let on too much to the kids
what I don't like, so they will hopefully go in to it with their own
perspective. My mother would go on and on about how she didn't like stuff.
That is most likely a big part of my problem. But I am working on it and am
better then I used to be.>>
I am so careful about voices dislikes and likes around the children. You
have to watch how you do it. I always remember my mom telling the story of
her sister and one of her daughters. My mom had them down for dinner and
Nancy was on her second helping of carrots. Her mom finally saw her eating
them and said, "Nancy, you don't like carrots!" And Nancy promptly pushed
them away. She didn't like them, didn't feed them to her kids so naturally
for her, her kids didn't like them either!!!
<< I love stuff about animals and especially snakes, crocks, komoto dragons
etc. I used to be terrified to let the kids out for the fear of snakes my
mom so nicely enstilled into me. But CORRECT knowledge is power and I got
over it. Haven't got my husband warmed up enough to them to have a snake
{other then a eastern worm snake} in the house.>>
We love our snake. It's a boa and we just moved him into Joe's and my
bedroom to make room for our new 30 gal fish tank. He's probably the best
we've ever had. The kids have absolutely no fear of snakes at all. I mean
enough so that they won't go picking one up in the woods but not like some
kids at the sight of them. Rocky the snake is quiet, eats hardly anything,
doesn't need walking, doesn't smell and doesn't get into anything. What a
pet!!
Mary B
<<Oh now, that I really enjoy too :) But I can't watch them like I'd like
because that my husband can't stand that. I know {unless something with the
anistethic goes horribly wrong, they are feeling no pain} Also, I tend to be
highly pain tolerant too so that helps. So i can watch them cut,chisle, or
whatever and that doesn't bother me.>>
Well I can't say that it's the same with me. No high tolerance to pain here.
But I still enjoythem. The only time I cringe is when they do something with
the eyeball or facial plastic surgery where they pull the whole face all
around. Of course I still watch. <bg>
<<I agree. My husband enjoys it. And I don't let on too much to the kids
what I don't like, so they will hopefully go in to it with their own
perspective. My mother would go on and on about how she didn't like stuff.
That is most likely a big part of my problem. But I am working on it and am
better then I used to be.>>
I am so careful about voices dislikes and likes around the children. You
have to watch how you do it. I always remember my mom telling the story of
her sister and one of her daughters. My mom had them down for dinner and
Nancy was on her second helping of carrots. Her mom finally saw her eating
them and said, "Nancy, you don't like carrots!" And Nancy promptly pushed
them away. She didn't like them, didn't feed them to her kids so naturally
for her, her kids didn't like them either!!!
<< I love stuff about animals and especially snakes, crocks, komoto dragons
etc. I used to be terrified to let the kids out for the fear of snakes my
mom so nicely enstilled into me. But CORRECT knowledge is power and I got
over it. Haven't got my husband warmed up enough to them to have a snake
{other then a eastern worm snake} in the house.>>
We love our snake. It's a boa and we just moved him into Joe's and my
bedroom to make room for our new 30 gal fish tank. He's probably the best
we've ever had. The kids have absolutely no fear of snakes at all. I mean
enough so that they won't go picking one up in the woods but not like some
kids at the sight of them. Rocky the snake is quiet, eats hardly anything,
doesn't need walking, doesn't smell and doesn't get into anything. What a
pet!!
Mary B
Lara Nabours
Tee hee. My mil does this too. She was shocked when we were newlyweds
and I served some dish with a sauce and told me my husband wouldn't
like it because he hates anything with sauce. He later told me it is
because he prefers my cooking! LOL! ;)
Lara Nabours
"How can the bird that is born for joy,
Sit in a cage and sing."- William Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary [mailto:mummy124@...]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] movie restrictions
From: "sablehs" <sablehs@...>
<<Oh now, that I really enjoy too :) But I can't watch them like I'd
like
because that my husband can't stand that. I know {unless something
with the
anistethic goes horribly wrong, they are feeling no pain} Also, I
tend to be
highly pain tolerant too so that helps. So i can watch them
cut,chisle, or
whatever and that doesn't bother me.>>
Well I can't say that it's the same with me. No high tolerance to
pain here.
But I still enjoythem. The only time I cringe is when they do
something with
the eyeball or facial plastic surgery where they pull the whole face
all
around. Of course I still watch. <bg>
<<I agree. My husband enjoys it. And I don't let on too much to the
kids
what I don't like, so they will hopefully go in to it with their own
perspective. My mother would go on and on about how she didn't like
stuff.
That is most likely a big part of my problem. But I am working on it
and am
better then I used to be.>>
I am so careful about voices dislikes and likes around the children.
You
have to watch how you do it. I always remember my mom telling the
story of
her sister and one of her daughters. My mom had them down for dinner
and
Nancy was on her second helping of carrots. Her mom finally saw her
eating
them and said, "Nancy, you don't like carrots!" And Nancy promptly
pushed
them away. She didn't like them, didn't feed them to her kids so
naturally
for her, her kids didn't like them either!!!
<< I love stuff about animals and especially snakes, crocks, komoto
dragons
etc. I used to be terrified to let the kids out for the fear of
snakes my
mom so nicely enstilled into me. But CORRECT knowledge is power and
I got
over it. Haven't got my husband warmed up enough to them to have a
snake
{other then a eastern worm snake} in the house.>>
We love our snake. It's a boa and we just moved him into Joe's and
my
bedroom to make room for our new 30 gal fish tank. He's probably the
best
we've ever had. The kids have absolutely no fear of snakes at all. I
mean
enough so that they won't go picking one up in the woods but not
like some
kids at the sight of them. Rocky the snake is quiet, eats hardly
anything,
doesn't need walking, doesn't smell and doesn't get into anything.
What a
pet!!
Mary B
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and I served some dish with a sauce and told me my husband wouldn't
like it because he hates anything with sauce. He later told me it is
because he prefers my cooking! LOL! ;)
Lara Nabours
"How can the bird that is born for joy,
Sit in a cage and sing."- William Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary [mailto:mummy124@...]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] movie restrictions
From: "sablehs" <sablehs@...>
<<Oh now, that I really enjoy too :) But I can't watch them like I'd
like
because that my husband can't stand that. I know {unless something
with the
anistethic goes horribly wrong, they are feeling no pain} Also, I
tend to be
highly pain tolerant too so that helps. So i can watch them
cut,chisle, or
whatever and that doesn't bother me.>>
Well I can't say that it's the same with me. No high tolerance to
pain here.
But I still enjoythem. The only time I cringe is when they do
something with
the eyeball or facial plastic surgery where they pull the whole face
all
around. Of course I still watch. <bg>
<<I agree. My husband enjoys it. And I don't let on too much to the
kids
what I don't like, so they will hopefully go in to it with their own
perspective. My mother would go on and on about how she didn't like
stuff.
That is most likely a big part of my problem. But I am working on it
and am
better then I used to be.>>
I am so careful about voices dislikes and likes around the children.
You
have to watch how you do it. I always remember my mom telling the
story of
her sister and one of her daughters. My mom had them down for dinner
and
Nancy was on her second helping of carrots. Her mom finally saw her
eating
them and said, "Nancy, you don't like carrots!" And Nancy promptly
pushed
them away. She didn't like them, didn't feed them to her kids so
naturally
for her, her kids didn't like them either!!!
<< I love stuff about animals and especially snakes, crocks, komoto
dragons
etc. I used to be terrified to let the kids out for the fear of
snakes my
mom so nicely enstilled into me. But CORRECT knowledge is power and
I got
over it. Haven't got my husband warmed up enough to them to have a
snake
{other then a eastern worm snake} in the house.>>
We love our snake. It's a boa and we just moved him into Joe's and
my
bedroom to make room for our new 30 gal fish tank. He's probably the
best
we've ever had. The kids have absolutely no fear of snakes at all. I
mean
enough so that they won't go picking one up in the woods but not
like some
kids at the sight of them. Rocky the snake is quiet, eats hardly
anything,
doesn't need walking, doesn't smell and doesn't get into anything.
What a
pet!!
Mary B
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sablehs
<< sablehs wrote:
I love stuff about animals and especially snakes, crocks, komoto dragons
etc. I used to be terrified to let the kids out for the fear of snakes my
mom so nicely enstilled into me. But CORRECT knowledge is power and I got
over it. Haven't got my husband warmed up enough to them to have a snake
{other then a eastern worm snake} in the house.>>
<<Mary B wrote:
We love our snake. It's a boa and we just moved him into Joe's and my
bedroom to make room for our new 30 gal fish tank. He's probably the best
we've ever had. The kids have absolutely no fear of snakes at all. I mean
enough so that they won't go picking one up in the woods but not like some
kids at the sight of them. Rocky the snake is quiet, eats hardly anything,
doesn't need walking, doesn't smell and doesn't get into anything. What a
pet!!
My husband just told us when I was writing the other, he just moved one out of the way while we were asleep the other day. He didn't want to accidentally step on it and hurt it. My oldest dd was very happy knowing soon she would be out looking for them again this year. All last year they checked, I think everyday, under every rock, in the yard for them. We get them a lot here.
The oldest is pretty well versed what to look for because we went over all that again and again and I have it printed out for her. We only have a couple of species to watch out for here in the triangle of NC.
I enjoy watching them, enjoy nature. They aren't scared by the circle of life, but I think right now they like the eastern worm snake mostly because all it eats are worms. LOL
Tracy
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I love stuff about animals and especially snakes, crocks, komoto dragons
etc. I used to be terrified to let the kids out for the fear of snakes my
mom so nicely enstilled into me. But CORRECT knowledge is power and I got
over it. Haven't got my husband warmed up enough to them to have a snake
{other then a eastern worm snake} in the house.>>
<<Mary B wrote:
We love our snake. It's a boa and we just moved him into Joe's and my
bedroom to make room for our new 30 gal fish tank. He's probably the best
we've ever had. The kids have absolutely no fear of snakes at all. I mean
enough so that they won't go picking one up in the woods but not like some
kids at the sight of them. Rocky the snake is quiet, eats hardly anything,
doesn't need walking, doesn't smell and doesn't get into anything. What a
pet!!
>>This is my third time trying this. Browser keeps shutting down. kids have been on doing searches for Final Fantasy VII charactor pictures on google images so I am sure that is why.
My husband just told us when I was writing the other, he just moved one out of the way while we were asleep the other day. He didn't want to accidentally step on it and hurt it. My oldest dd was very happy knowing soon she would be out looking for them again this year. All last year they checked, I think everyday, under every rock, in the yard for them. We get them a lot here.
The oldest is pretty well versed what to look for because we went over all that again and again and I have it printed out for her. We only have a couple of species to watch out for here in the triangle of NC.
I enjoy watching them, enjoy nature. They aren't scared by the circle of life, but I think right now they like the eastern worm snake mostly because all it eats are worms. LOL
Tracy
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/1/2003 3:50:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
~Kelly
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[email protected] writes:
> > Come toStay away from "Eleni", then, Robin!
> > think of it, I'm very disturbed by movies where mothers are
> separated form
> > their children.
>
> Yeah, Sophie's Choice heads up my personal list of movies I wish I'd
> never watched. There are some things so disturbing, I just wish
> they'd never been lodged in my brain.
~Kelly
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Marjorie Kirk
>I've been tempted on more than one occasion to bring a good book with a mini
> In a message dated 3/31/03 10:17:13 AM, diamondair@... writes:
>
> << The hardest time I have is when my kids want to see something that I
>
> totally have no interest in seeing. If they rent it on DVD, that's
>
> one thing, but if I have to sit through it in a theatre, that's
>
> another. >>
>
book light to the theater!! Luckily, I can usually convince DH to take the
kids to movies I don't want to see, he doesn't seem to mind as much.
We once took all three of our kids and five of my middle sons' friends to a
Pokemon movie for his birthday. Halfway through the movie I turned to my
husband and whispered, "I can't believe how lame this movie is." Thiry
seconds later my son turned to me with eyes shining brightly and said, "This
is SO COOL! Thanks mom!" The rest of the movie seemed much cooler than the
beginning. It's all in your perspective.
Marjorie
Kelli Traaseth
SandraDodd@... wrote:
**Our whole family sat through "Dude, Where's My Car?"
It wasn't a very good movie, but in retrospect there are a couple of running
jokes from that,**
Yes!! its the whole thing about relationship building, not whether or not the movie/tv show is a good one or not.
I've been sitting here the last few days reading the TV/movie restriction posts. Wanting to post something but not having the time to put my thoughts down.
I want to communicate to people who restrict these things that there is so much more to this than meets the eye. I used to also feel the same way, I did not see the value in certain TV shows or movies. I would not miss TV or certain types of movies if I didn't see them. But I am now at a different place. If they want to watch TV they can, if a movie comes along that they want to watch they can.
But the issue isn't me.... its my kids.
I figured out which shows I wanted to watch and which shows I didn't want to. How did I do that? By watching. Not by my mother saying, "you don't need to watch that, that's crap". I pretty much had free reign to TV.
Now my kids watch TV, they watch Johnny Bravo, they watch DragonballZ, they watch Tom and Jerry, all the stuff they've never seen before. And you know what? When I've watched it with them, opened my mind up, I've totally had a new experience. I'm doing it for them and they open up to me.
Its just another avenue in which we can be a family. In which we can build our relationship. Yes there are commercials, yes there is alot of 'stuff' there, but we end up talking about it.
TV will always be in our world, movies too. I can't keep things from them. I choose to live my children's lives with them; experiencing the world as it is and seeing it through their eyes.
I know for alot of people who are new to these ideas it doesn't make sense, its just doesn't jive with what you feel is important.
But just try and open up, try and see that everyone learns in different ways, maybe from a TV show, maybe from a gameboy or Playstation. We don't know unless we let them give it a try. All things have value even if its mindless drivel to you right now. Let that go, try and see it differently. This unschooling life can be so rich, its so amazing.
Keep reading these posts, play with your kids, live life with your kids. Eventually, if you allow it, this will make sense. Believe me....
Kelli T.
In a message dated 3/31/03 10:17:13 AM, diamondair@... writes:
<< The hardest time I have is when my kids want to see something that I
totally have no interest in seeing. If they rent it on DVD, that's
one thing, but if I have to sit through it in a theatre, that's
another. >>
Our whole family sat through "Dude, Where's My Car?"
It wasn't a very good movie, but in retrospect there are a couple of running
jokes from that, and then all the kids got the joke in a piece of send-around
e-mail about the title of The Lord of the Rings being renamed which was
Ashton Kuchner (allegedly) suggesting "Dude, Where's My Precious?"
So even a dud can be salvaged in some ways.
That would have been another good one to watch on video instead of in a real
theatre.
Sandra
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**Our whole family sat through "Dude, Where's My Car?"
It wasn't a very good movie, but in retrospect there are a couple of running
jokes from that,**
Yes!! its the whole thing about relationship building, not whether or not the movie/tv show is a good one or not.
I've been sitting here the last few days reading the TV/movie restriction posts. Wanting to post something but not having the time to put my thoughts down.
I want to communicate to people who restrict these things that there is so much more to this than meets the eye. I used to also feel the same way, I did not see the value in certain TV shows or movies. I would not miss TV or certain types of movies if I didn't see them. But I am now at a different place. If they want to watch TV they can, if a movie comes along that they want to watch they can.
But the issue isn't me.... its my kids.
I figured out which shows I wanted to watch and which shows I didn't want to. How did I do that? By watching. Not by my mother saying, "you don't need to watch that, that's crap". I pretty much had free reign to TV.
Now my kids watch TV, they watch Johnny Bravo, they watch DragonballZ, they watch Tom and Jerry, all the stuff they've never seen before. And you know what? When I've watched it with them, opened my mind up, I've totally had a new experience. I'm doing it for them and they open up to me.
Its just another avenue in which we can be a family. In which we can build our relationship. Yes there are commercials, yes there is alot of 'stuff' there, but we end up talking about it.
TV will always be in our world, movies too. I can't keep things from them. I choose to live my children's lives with them; experiencing the world as it is and seeing it through their eyes.
I know for alot of people who are new to these ideas it doesn't make sense, its just doesn't jive with what you feel is important.
But just try and open up, try and see that everyone learns in different ways, maybe from a TV show, maybe from a gameboy or Playstation. We don't know unless we let them give it a try. All things have value even if its mindless drivel to you right now. Let that go, try and see it differently. This unschooling life can be so rich, its so amazing.
Keep reading these posts, play with your kids, live life with your kids. Eventually, if you allow it, this will make sense. Believe me....
Kelli T.
In a message dated 3/31/03 10:17:13 AM, diamondair@... writes:
<< The hardest time I have is when my kids want to see something that I
totally have no interest in seeing. If they rent it on DVD, that's
one thing, but if I have to sit through it in a theatre, that's
another. >>
Our whole family sat through "Dude, Where's My Car?"
It wasn't a very good movie, but in retrospect there are a couple of running
jokes from that, and then all the kids got the joke in a piece of send-around
e-mail about the title of The Lord of the Rings being renamed which was
Ashton Kuchner (allegedly) suggesting "Dude, Where's My Precious?"
So even a dud can be salvaged in some ways.
That would have been another good one to watch on video instead of in a real
theatre.
Sandra
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Pamela Sorooshian
I took my kids to see a pokemon movie at a brand-new theater with super
comfortable cushy seats with arm rests that come up and there was
NOBODY else in the theater at all except us at 11 am on a weekday
morning. Guess what I did. Fell SOUND ASLEEP and, apparently, snored
loudly.
comfortable cushy seats with arm rests that come up and there was
NOBODY else in the theater at all except us at 11 am on a weekday
morning. Guess what I did. Fell SOUND ASLEEP and, apparently, snored
loudly.
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 05:15 AM, Marjorie Kirk wrote:
> We once took all three of our kids and five of my middle sons' friends
> to a
> Pokemon movie for his birthday. Halfway through the movie I turned to
> my
> husband and whispered, "I can't believe how lame this movie is." Thiry
> seconds later my son turned to me with eyes shining brightly and said,
> "This
> is SO COOL! Thanks mom!" The rest of the movie seemed much cooler
> than the
> beginning. It's all in your perspective.
the_clevengers
--- In [email protected], Kelli Traaseth
<kellitraas@y...> wrote:
my kids. My son, who was five at the time, was talking with me about
the movie later. He said his favorite parts of the movie involved
Maverick's (Tom Cruise's character's) "Magic Power Necklace" and how
Maverick rubbed the necklace when he needed power, but when he no
longer needed it, he threw it to the ocean. Of course, the "magic
power necklace" was the chain and dog tags from Maverick's
friend "Goose" who died, and there was a scene where he takes the
chain out and looks at it and rubs his thumb over it. It was just
really fascinating to me the completely different way my child
interpreted those scenes, and probably the whole movie. I love those
eye-opening moments when you get a window into your child's mind.
What a great experience!
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
<kellitraas@y...> wrote:
> I choose to live my children's lives with them; experiencing theThis totally reminded me of the first time I watched "Top Gun" with
>world as it is and seeing it through their eyes.
my kids. My son, who was five at the time, was talking with me about
the movie later. He said his favorite parts of the movie involved
Maverick's (Tom Cruise's character's) "Magic Power Necklace" and how
Maverick rubbed the necklace when he needed power, but when he no
longer needed it, he threw it to the ocean. Of course, the "magic
power necklace" was the chain and dog tags from Maverick's
friend "Goose" who died, and there was a scene where he takes the
chain out and looks at it and rubs his thumb over it. It was just
really fascinating to me the completely different way my child
interpreted those scenes, and probably the whole movie. I love those
eye-opening moments when you get a window into your child's mind.
What a great experience!
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
Mary
From: "Marjorie Kirk" <mkirk@...>
<<We once took all three of our kids and five of my middle sons' friends to
a
Pokemon movie for his birthday. Halfway through the movie I turned to my
husband and whispered, "I can't believe how lame this movie is." Thiry
seconds later my son turned to me with eyes shining brightly and said, "This
is SO COOL! Thanks mom!" The rest of the movie seemed much cooler than the
beginning. It's all in your perspective.>>
Our kids somehow missed the Pokemon movie and we were able to do video.
Thank you very much. BUT, I wasn't so lucky with the PowerPuff girls movie.
I took Sierra and Joseph. I just couldn't get into it at all. Took maybe a
15 minute nap which is something I never do. Don't even nap at a home!!!
Well Joseph was very upset with me later. Couldn't understand how I could
have fallen asleep during such a great movie. So I assured him I didn't
sleep long and when I was able to tell him the parts I did see, he felt
better. Yes it sucked but then it didn't because they loved it. That makes
it worth it.
Mary B
<<We once took all three of our kids and five of my middle sons' friends to
a
Pokemon movie for his birthday. Halfway through the movie I turned to my
husband and whispered, "I can't believe how lame this movie is." Thiry
seconds later my son turned to me with eyes shining brightly and said, "This
is SO COOL! Thanks mom!" The rest of the movie seemed much cooler than the
beginning. It's all in your perspective.>>
Our kids somehow missed the Pokemon movie and we were able to do video.
Thank you very much. BUT, I wasn't so lucky with the PowerPuff girls movie.
I took Sierra and Joseph. I just couldn't get into it at all. Took maybe a
15 minute nap which is something I never do. Don't even nap at a home!!!
Well Joseph was very upset with me later. Couldn't understand how I could
have fallen asleep during such a great movie. So I assured him I didn't
sleep long and when I was able to tell him the parts I did see, he felt
better. Yes it sucked but then it didn't because they loved it. That makes
it worth it.
Mary B
charles and claudia
I have been reading all the posts about this and I love the idea. and
am ready to let my children decide for themselves. BUT I have a
question concerning I guess gore and violence. I like those kind of
movies and was allowed to watch them atlest on TV no the movies. But
I Don't think I am ready to let my 7 year old watch movies like Blade
or The Patriot or and other REALLY gorry movie with lots of vivid
violence. I don't know if she would want to watch this kind of movie
but I am afaid she might and I don't want to say you can choose
anything unless we don't agree with you. I am interested in what the
parents of older children who have had the right to choose their tv
for a while think and what has worked for them. also I am trying to
convince my husband and he brought up the movie BLade (we both like
that movie) alot of movies he and i like to watch are grafic.
Thank you inadvance Claudia
Ps what ages did your children start watching TV?
am ready to let my children decide for themselves. BUT I have a
question concerning I guess gore and violence. I like those kind of
movies and was allowed to watch them atlest on TV no the movies. But
I Don't think I am ready to let my 7 year old watch movies like Blade
or The Patriot or and other REALLY gorry movie with lots of vivid
violence. I don't know if she would want to watch this kind of movie
but I am afaid she might and I don't want to say you can choose
anything unless we don't agree with you. I am interested in what the
parents of older children who have had the right to choose their tv
for a while think and what has worked for them. also I am trying to
convince my husband and he brought up the movie BLade (we both like
that movie) alot of movies he and i like to watch are grafic.
Thank you inadvance Claudia
Ps what ages did your children start watching TV?
[email protected]
I love this topic! It's so nice to *not* be alone :)
I never consciously censored the kids, but one day *POOF* they had interest
in movies outside of their *age category* I think it began with *Princess
Bride* I received as a gift after DH died ~ I had forgotten about the "I want
my father back, you S.O.B." line and was a bit concerned when it came out in
front of the kids, but they just rolled with it (lots of empathy for Inigo!).
One night I stayed up to watch *Signs* by myself and Hayden (4) woke up. I
just told him, I'm gonna watch a grown up movie and I don't know what this
movie is about. If you want to stay and watch it fine, if not, fine. He
stayed up and watched every single minute of the movie then woke his sister
at the crack of dawn so *she* could see it too. She loves it! They're just
coming off the thrill of the aliens and are now beginning to understand the
point of the movie ~ all things happen for a reason. I guess I was bonked by
the unschooling god, I wouldn't trade this lesson for any g-rated movie!
I personally believe that kids can handle *anything* given the proper
support. I let my kids watch things that may not be *appropriate* because I
TALK to them, explain to them, prepare them, participate with them; then
after the movie I talk some more, explain some more, and listen, listen,
listen for what I may learn from their perspective!
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
“I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule
of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence.”
--Frederick Douglass
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I never consciously censored the kids, but one day *POOF* they had interest
in movies outside of their *age category* I think it began with *Princess
Bride* I received as a gift after DH died ~ I had forgotten about the "I want
my father back, you S.O.B." line and was a bit concerned when it came out in
front of the kids, but they just rolled with it (lots of empathy for Inigo!).
One night I stayed up to watch *Signs* by myself and Hayden (4) woke up. I
just told him, I'm gonna watch a grown up movie and I don't know what this
movie is about. If you want to stay and watch it fine, if not, fine. He
stayed up and watched every single minute of the movie then woke his sister
at the crack of dawn so *she* could see it too. She loves it! They're just
coming off the thrill of the aliens and are now beginning to understand the
point of the movie ~ all things happen for a reason. I guess I was bonked by
the unschooling god, I wouldn't trade this lesson for any g-rated movie!
I personally believe that kids can handle *anything* given the proper
support. I let my kids watch things that may not be *appropriate* because I
TALK to them, explain to them, prepare them, participate with them; then
after the movie I talk some more, explain some more, and listen, listen,
listen for what I may learn from their perspective!
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
“I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule
of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence.”
--Frederick Douglass
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/1/03 9:52:17 PM, PININTREE@... writes:
<< I Don't think I am ready to let my 7 year old watch movies like Blade
or The Patriot or and other REALLY gorry movie with lots of vivid
violence. >>
I haven't seen Blade.
The Patriot has lots of parts she could watch. It has two scenes I don't
want to see any more myself, but now I know where they are, and I'll offer to
go get drinks for people next time it's on if I know the scary parts are
coming.
[calling kids in to interview them, 11:09 at night...]
Marty has seen Blade and says it's not realistic enough to really scare a kid.
Marty saw Exorcist III at the neighbor's house when he was 10 and it was too
scary and he was sorry he saw it. It made him scared of walking alone in the
dark, he says.
Holly says the worst movies she's seen are Fight Club and The Exorcist
(original 70's one). When she saw The Exorcist, I tried to talk her out of
it, but she really wanted to be in on it because there were five teens, plus
me. I stayed in because Holly wanted to stay.
Partly the tension was broken by the number of people there. Partly the
special effects were old-timey (to their eyes). Partly I made comments
fairly often about how something was done, or the reaction in the theater
when I first saw it, first run.
Holly has watched Fight Club several times, though, and even by herself.
She's pretty clear on the subtleties of the plot. She probably could explain
some stuff to me!
She's also very familiar with lots My Little Pony, Rainbow Brite, Ninja
Turtles (movies and cartoons), Disney everything, Muppet/Muppet Babies /
Sesame Street lost of video, Winnie the Pooh (book, movie, TV series),
musicals (lots), and so it wasn't like the taste of video blood ruined her
for happy G-rated stuff!
Sandra
<< I Don't think I am ready to let my 7 year old watch movies like Blade
or The Patriot or and other REALLY gorry movie with lots of vivid
violence. >>
I haven't seen Blade.
The Patriot has lots of parts she could watch. It has two scenes I don't
want to see any more myself, but now I know where they are, and I'll offer to
go get drinks for people next time it's on if I know the scary parts are
coming.
[calling kids in to interview them, 11:09 at night...]
Marty has seen Blade and says it's not realistic enough to really scare a kid.
Marty saw Exorcist III at the neighbor's house when he was 10 and it was too
scary and he was sorry he saw it. It made him scared of walking alone in the
dark, he says.
Holly says the worst movies she's seen are Fight Club and The Exorcist
(original 70's one). When she saw The Exorcist, I tried to talk her out of
it, but she really wanted to be in on it because there were five teens, plus
me. I stayed in because Holly wanted to stay.
Partly the tension was broken by the number of people there. Partly the
special effects were old-timey (to their eyes). Partly I made comments
fairly often about how something was done, or the reaction in the theater
when I first saw it, first run.
Holly has watched Fight Club several times, though, and even by herself.
She's pretty clear on the subtleties of the plot. She probably could explain
some stuff to me!
She's also very familiar with lots My Little Pony, Rainbow Brite, Ninja
Turtles (movies and cartoons), Disney everything, Muppet/Muppet Babies /
Sesame Street lost of video, Winnie the Pooh (book, movie, TV series),
musicals (lots), and so it wasn't like the taste of video blood ruined her
for happy G-rated stuff!
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 01/04/2003 22:35:27 Pacific Standard Time,
hahamommy@... writes:
bedtime, Tommy and I watched a show about women gladiators on the history
channel. Just happened on it. This led to him deciding that he would
construct some armor from cardboard, and a shield. He then made a drawing of
what he wanted to make. Then there was a part on constructing funeral pyres
effectively like in ancient times, and we liked the idea and decided to try
cremating our dear departed cat that is in the freezer waiting for spring. i
have been bonked hard. Must go now and check out a show on ancient egypt that
he is watching.
Very exciting times we live in.
Nancy
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hahamommy@... writes:
> I guess I was bonked byThis is a busy god at times I suspect! Tonight on our first night of no
> the unschooling god, I wouldn't trade this lesson for any g-rated movie!
>
bedtime, Tommy and I watched a show about women gladiators on the history
channel. Just happened on it. This led to him deciding that he would
construct some armor from cardboard, and a shield. He then made a drawing of
what he wanted to make. Then there was a part on constructing funeral pyres
effectively like in ancient times, and we liked the idea and decided to try
cremating our dear departed cat that is in the freezer waiting for spring. i
have been bonked hard. Must go now and check out a show on ancient egypt that
he is watching.
Very exciting times we live in.
Nancy
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Mary
From: "charles and claudia" <PININTREE@...>
<<I am interested in what the parents of older children who have had the
right to choose their tv
for a while think and what has worked for them. also I am trying to
convince my husband and he brought up the movie BLade (we both like that
movie) alot of movies he and i like to watch are grafic. >>
The only older one I have that never had any tv or movie restrictions is
Tara. She's 17 and from a very young age liked the bloody scary movies. I
remember when she was very young, before a year old, she liked watching
wrestling with her dad. I thought it was kind of strange for a baby to watch
like she did, especially that. It wasn't like every day but when it was on
she watched. When she was 3 and 4 she would stay up with me and watch
Arsenio Hall and Trapper John MD. She also like Sesame Street and Care Bears
and Smurfs and such too. Along with Jaws and Robocop!
She never got scared, I always watched with her and talked about stuff and
even stopped movies to answer questions or whatever. I didn't find it
excessive or obsessive with her. She liked so many other things besides
scary movies.
She still has no problems now with scary movies. She likes just about all
kinds. She does jump and scream now when she watches something very tense
and unexpectedly scary. She never did that when she was younger. She's not a
violent person and she's not scared of much, well except for bugs. They'll
send her screaming into the night in a heartbeat!!! Florida, what a great
place for her to live!!
That's why I don't worry about no tv or movie restrictions with the other 3.
I'm parenting them better than I was able to with Tara and she turned out
fine so it's certainly not tv that corrupts in this house.
Alyssa at 2 and a half just started to watch tv a little while ago. She
doesn't watch for long but she did make it through the whole Piglet movie
last week. Her first movie too. The trick was to keep feeding her! Worked at
the circus! Her tv attention span is at the most 20 minutes.
Joseph (8) and Sierra (7) love dinosaur, shark, gator and bug movies. In
fact today Joseph was watching Orkin bug movies I sent away for free!!!
Joseph will say he doesn't want anything too scary. So far he hasn't asked
to see anything that has been too much for him. He doesn't ask to see Jason
or Freddy type movies. He likes Die Hard and action stuff. He'll also watch
medical shows with me too. Sierra watches about the same as he does. Joseph
gets a little antsy if the romance gets a bit heated but so far nothing to
graphic that way. Naked bodies don't bother them, it's only when the
touching gets a bit much he'll say something. So now we just make sure he
doesn't have to be uncomfortable and for what they ask to watch, it really
doesn't come up often.
Of course they all love Dragon Ball, Yu Gi Oh, Hamtaurro, Rugrats and Pooh
too. A nice blend I think.
Mary B
<<I am interested in what the parents of older children who have had the
right to choose their tv
for a while think and what has worked for them. also I am trying to
convince my husband and he brought up the movie BLade (we both like that
movie) alot of movies he and i like to watch are grafic. >>
The only older one I have that never had any tv or movie restrictions is
Tara. She's 17 and from a very young age liked the bloody scary movies. I
remember when she was very young, before a year old, she liked watching
wrestling with her dad. I thought it was kind of strange for a baby to watch
like she did, especially that. It wasn't like every day but when it was on
she watched. When she was 3 and 4 she would stay up with me and watch
Arsenio Hall and Trapper John MD. She also like Sesame Street and Care Bears
and Smurfs and such too. Along with Jaws and Robocop!
She never got scared, I always watched with her and talked about stuff and
even stopped movies to answer questions or whatever. I didn't find it
excessive or obsessive with her. She liked so many other things besides
scary movies.
She still has no problems now with scary movies. She likes just about all
kinds. She does jump and scream now when she watches something very tense
and unexpectedly scary. She never did that when she was younger. She's not a
violent person and she's not scared of much, well except for bugs. They'll
send her screaming into the night in a heartbeat!!! Florida, what a great
place for her to live!!
That's why I don't worry about no tv or movie restrictions with the other 3.
I'm parenting them better than I was able to with Tara and she turned out
fine so it's certainly not tv that corrupts in this house.
Alyssa at 2 and a half just started to watch tv a little while ago. She
doesn't watch for long but she did make it through the whole Piglet movie
last week. Her first movie too. The trick was to keep feeding her! Worked at
the circus! Her tv attention span is at the most 20 minutes.
Joseph (8) and Sierra (7) love dinosaur, shark, gator and bug movies. In
fact today Joseph was watching Orkin bug movies I sent away for free!!!
Joseph will say he doesn't want anything too scary. So far he hasn't asked
to see anything that has been too much for him. He doesn't ask to see Jason
or Freddy type movies. He likes Die Hard and action stuff. He'll also watch
medical shows with me too. Sierra watches about the same as he does. Joseph
gets a little antsy if the romance gets a bit heated but so far nothing to
graphic that way. Naked bodies don't bother them, it's only when the
touching gets a bit much he'll say something. So now we just make sure he
doesn't have to be uncomfortable and for what they ask to watch, it really
doesn't come up often.
Of course they all love Dragon Ball, Yu Gi Oh, Hamtaurro, Rugrats and Pooh
too. A nice blend I think.
Mary B
Fetteroll
on 4/1/03 11:49 PM, charles and claudia at PININTREE@... wrote:
too. What does bother her? Does she like action movies without the graphic
gore and violence? If she's been restricted to kiddie movies maybe start off
with tamer stuff and find out what she likes and doesn't like. (Lara Croft
had lots of mayhem with no blood. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Xena was more
graphic but still not Blade level if you get the Oxygen channel.) If she's
an only you might want to watch with just the 2 of you during the day so she
has full freedom to turn it off. In our family if we're all settled in for
the evening to watch a movie, if my daughter doesn't like something her
options are to go off by herself or have one or both of us give up the movie
too. And those aren't really great options.
When you know what bothers her then you can use Screen It!
(http://www.screenit.com) to find out if a movie has any of the things that
bother her in it.
cartoons and occasional live action show that has animals.
It helps now that Kathryn is older (11) and can articulate what it is she
doesn't like. It was a mystery when she was younger. Some action movies she
was fine with and some she wasn't. Indiana Jones seemed like the perfect mix
of action and humor but she always nixes it when we suggested it. Eventually
she was able to tell us that skeletons bother her.
Joyce
> I don't know if she would want to watch this kind of movieI think you need to get to know her! And help her get to know herself better
> but I am afaid she might and I don't want to say you can choose
> anything unless we don't agree with you.
too. What does bother her? Does she like action movies without the graphic
gore and violence? If she's been restricted to kiddie movies maybe start off
with tamer stuff and find out what she likes and doesn't like. (Lara Croft
had lots of mayhem with no blood. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Xena was more
graphic but still not Blade level if you get the Oxygen channel.) If she's
an only you might want to watch with just the 2 of you during the day so she
has full freedom to turn it off. In our family if we're all settled in for
the evening to watch a movie, if my daughter doesn't like something her
options are to go off by herself or have one or both of us give up the movie
too. And those aren't really great options.
When you know what bothers her then you can use Screen It!
(http://www.screenit.com) to find out if a movie has any of the things that
bother her in it.
> I am interested in what theShe just doesn't turn anything on that doesn't appeal to her. It's mostly
> parents of older children who have had the right to choose their tv
> for a while think and what has worked for them.
cartoons and occasional live action show that has animals.
It helps now that Kathryn is older (11) and can articulate what it is she
doesn't like. It was a mystery when she was younger. Some action movies she
was fine with and some she wasn't. Indiana Jones seemed like the perfect mix
of action and humor but she always nixes it when we suggested it. Eventually
she was able to tell us that skeletons bother her.
Joyce
Kelli Traaseth
LOWRIEK@... wrote:
**This is a busy god at times I suspect! **
I agree!! And those of us on this list must be quite blessed by this god!
I love evenings or days like the one you described, Nancy, isn't it great seeing that excitement in their faces!
I LOVE IT!
Kelli
In a message dated 01/04/2003 22:35:27 Pacific Standard Time,
hahamommy@... writes:
bedtime, Tommy and I watched a show about women gladiators on the history
channel. Just happened on it. This led to him deciding that he would
construct some armor from cardboard, and a shield. He then made a drawing of
what he wanted to make. Then there was a part on constructing funeral pyres
effectively like in ancient times, and we liked the idea and decided to try
cremating our dear departed cat that is in the freezer waiting for spring. i
have been bonked hard. Must go now and check out a show on ancient egypt that
he is watching.
Very exciting times we live in.
Nancy
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**This is a busy god at times I suspect! **
I agree!! And those of us on this list must be quite blessed by this god!
I love evenings or days like the one you described, Nancy, isn't it great seeing that excitement in their faces!
I LOVE IT!
Kelli
In a message dated 01/04/2003 22:35:27 Pacific Standard Time,
hahamommy@... writes:
> I guess I was bonked byThis is a busy god at times I suspect! Tonight on our first night of no
> the unschooling god, I wouldn't trade this lesson for any g-rated movie!
>
bedtime, Tommy and I watched a show about women gladiators on the history
channel. Just happened on it. This led to him deciding that he would
construct some armor from cardboard, and a shield. He then made a drawing of
what he wanted to make. Then there was a part on constructing funeral pyres
effectively like in ancient times, and we liked the idea and decided to try
cremating our dear departed cat that is in the freezer waiting for spring. i
have been bonked hard. Must go now and check out a show on ancient egypt that
he is watching.
Very exciting times we live in.
Nancy
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Kelli Traaseth
Its crazy though, the whole movie thing...
We rented Robin Hood last week, the one with AR (Alan Rickman) and the 'other guy' thought the kids would like it. Didn't think it would be too graphic or anything, well, the opening scene has Robin in a prison where hands are being cut off,,,oops. My son walks away disgusted, "I hate movies like this..." I really thought he would like the adventure part of it. He loves LOTR and Star Wars. I was really struggling. Struck out again...
My dd and I watched it, I talked with Alec about it later, from what I can figure, is that Robin Hood was more real? LOTR is more make believe? I guess that makes sense. He'll watch Matrix and stuff like that , Terminator, blow em up stuff like that, but can't watch Robin Hood?
A day later my dd wanted to watch it again, she likes to listen closer and get the dialogue better. So my ds and I were going to play a game. (In the same room) he was fine with that. As the movie went on he really got into it, but the real people in and such must really be too much for him.
Then, yesterday we watched Wild America, loved it, but, boy there are some intense scenes in that. With the aligators or when they are going in a cave, had to shut it off my daughter was stressing out. (Yet she had no problem with the hands being cut off or seeing the Orcs in LOTR) We did end up watching it all but we had to give it a pause. Get some popcorn, that kind-of thing. So, its very interesting how different things affect us.
I know when I was in high school I was standing in a the walk way of a mall. Watching an excerpt from Friday the 13th, mid day, people walking all around me, they had it on in a video rental place. I almost fainted when Jason came out of a lake at some kids in a boat.
Can you imagine me in the theater with one of those? But I'll watch Robin Hood and LOTR and such, no problem....
I think we'll all be OK going to the Piglet movie, whew.....
Kelli
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We rented Robin Hood last week, the one with AR (Alan Rickman) and the 'other guy' thought the kids would like it. Didn't think it would be too graphic or anything, well, the opening scene has Robin in a prison where hands are being cut off,,,oops. My son walks away disgusted, "I hate movies like this..." I really thought he would like the adventure part of it. He loves LOTR and Star Wars. I was really struggling. Struck out again...
My dd and I watched it, I talked with Alec about it later, from what I can figure, is that Robin Hood was more real? LOTR is more make believe? I guess that makes sense. He'll watch Matrix and stuff like that , Terminator, blow em up stuff like that, but can't watch Robin Hood?
A day later my dd wanted to watch it again, she likes to listen closer and get the dialogue better. So my ds and I were going to play a game. (In the same room) he was fine with that. As the movie went on he really got into it, but the real people in and such must really be too much for him.
Then, yesterday we watched Wild America, loved it, but, boy there are some intense scenes in that. With the aligators or when they are going in a cave, had to shut it off my daughter was stressing out. (Yet she had no problem with the hands being cut off or seeing the Orcs in LOTR) We did end up watching it all but we had to give it a pause. Get some popcorn, that kind-of thing. So, its very interesting how different things affect us.
I know when I was in high school I was standing in a the walk way of a mall. Watching an excerpt from Friday the 13th, mid day, people walking all around me, they had it on in a video rental place. I almost fainted when Jason came out of a lake at some kids in a boat.
Can you imagine me in the theater with one of those? But I'll watch Robin Hood and LOTR and such, no problem....
I think we'll all be OK going to the Piglet movie, whew.....
Kelli
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