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In a message dated 3/27/03 4:25:52 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:

<<
So... the consumerism is me and my washing machine, proof of income and
status. >>

Me too.
It gives me a feeling of abundance to have a washer and dryer, very important
to me.
My memories of a laundromat aren't nearly so dim as Sandra's, but it was
during the time in my married life in which money was scarce.
We had one beater car, a new baby and barely made it paycheck to paycheck. At
least it was an apartment laundromat most of the time, but all those memories
are tied up with lack, collections and stress.
So I really like my washer and dryer.

Good for Holly not having those lame associations with laundromats!! :)

And I wish I saved my Downy ball, I just threw it out recently while
organizing.
It IS a cool thing, but I like the way laundry smells and feels when I pour
it in myself.
It is more concentrated or something.
I may just switch back to vinegar again, it does work really well and it's so
much cheaper and better for the environment.

Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."

----Frances Hodgson Burnett

Deborah Lewis

***My memories of a laundromat aren't nearly so dim as Sandra's,...***

I found a bag of pot once in a washing machine in a laundromat in Forest
Grove, Oregon.
I'm older now, married, responsible and happy to have my own appliances.


Deb L, sneaking off to check the washer...

Tia Leschke

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...
>
> I found a bag of pot once in a washing machine in a laundromat in Forest
> Grove, Oregon.

My older son is a scavenger - dumpsters, the dump, etc. He finds garbage
bags of the stuff. The growers here in "Supernatural BC" throw out all but
the most perfect buds, which are the only thing they can sell.
Tia

Mary

From: Deborah Lewis
<<I found a bag of pot once in a washing machine in a laundromat in Forest
Grove, Oregon.
I'm older now, married, responsible and happy to have my own appliances.>>


Yeah but wasn't it nice then being young, single and not responsible. I'm sure you were happy and that was the best laundry you ever did!! <BEG>

Mary B





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Mary

From: Tia Leschke
<<My older son is a scavenger - dumpsters, the dump, etc. He finds garbage
bags of the stuff. The growers here in "Supernatural BC" throw out all but
the most perfect buds, which are the only thing they can sell.>>


So Tia..........exactly where do you live again???????
<BEG>

Mary B




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coyote's corner

Mary,
Shall I pick you up on the way??
Janis, who will take the comfy conversion van and buy many American Indian
items on the way...

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From: Mary [mailto:mummy124@...]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Ads--Downy Ball

From: Tia Leschke
<<My older son is a scavenger - dumpsters, the dump, etc. He finds
garbage
bags of the stuff. The growers here in "Supernatural BC" throw out all
but
the most perfect buds, which are the only thing they can sell.>>


So Tia..........exactly where do you live again???????
<BEG>

Mary B




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Deborah Lewis

***My older son is a scavenger - dumpsters, the dump, etc. He finds
garbage
bags of the stuff. The growers here in "Supernatural BC" throw out all
but
the most perfect buds, which are the only thing they can sell.***

Wow!
Mine was no where near the garbage bag size. Just a little zip loc.
A real entrepreneur would find some way to use the imperfect stuff. Tea
or something. Spring tonic.
Wow!

Deb L

Deborah Lewis

***Yeah but wasn't it nice then being young, single and not responsible.
I'm sure you were happy and that was the best laundry you ever did!!
<BEG>***

I was and it was! But life is wonderful today, even if the laundry's a
little boring.<g>

Deb L

Tia Leschke

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...
> <<My older son is a scavenger - dumpsters, the dump, etc. He finds
garbage
> bags of the stuff. The growers here in "Supernatural BC" throw out all
but
> the most perfect buds, which are the only thing they can sell.>>
>
>
> So Tia..........exactly where do you live again???????

Supernatural BC <g> I live near Victoria, but he's found it other places
as well. It's a major contributor to the BC economy.
Tia

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In a message dated 28/03/2003 09:49:08 Pacific Standard Time, leschke@...
writes:


> Supernatural BC <g> I live near Victoria, but he's found it other places
> as well. It's a major contributor to the BC economy.
> Tia
>
>

We are one of the greenest places on earth. Which dumpsters in Victoria
specefically?
Nancy


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Mary

From: coyote's corner
<<Mary,
Shall I pick you up on the way??
Janis, who will take the comfy conversion van and buy many American Indian
items on the way...>>


With the way things have been around here lately.....my bags are packed. Can I bring all the kids????

Mary B





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Mary

From: Deborah Lewis
<<Wow!
Mine was no where near the garbage bag size. Just a little zip loc.
A real entrepreneur would find some way to use the imperfect stuff. Tea
or something. Spring tonic.
Wow!>>


Brownies!

Mary B





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No problem as long as they like puppies and Indian stuff!


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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Ads--Downy Ball

From: coyote's corner
<<Mary,
Shall I pick you up on the way??
Janis, who will take the comfy conversion van and buy many American Indian
items on the way...>>


With the way things have been around here lately.....my bags are packed.
Can I bring all the kids????

Mary B





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Can that brownie recipe be low fat??

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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Ads--Downy Ball

From: Deborah Lewis
<<Wow!
Mine was no where near the garbage bag size. Just a little zip loc.
A real entrepreneur would find some way to use the imperfect stuff. Tea
or something. Spring tonic.
Wow!>>


Brownies!

Mary B





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From: coyote's corner
<<Can that brownie recipe be low fat??>>


Gee, is there such a thing that is worth it????
That would be the whole point of the spiked brownies, indulgent, delicious, fattening but who cares? LOL!!!!

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Tia Leschke

> From: coyote's corner
> <<Can that brownie recipe be low fat??>>
>
>
> Gee, is there such a thing that is worth it????
> That would be the whole point of the spiked brownies, indulgent,
delicious, fattening but who cares? LOL!!!!

Besides which, it's the fat that extracts the goodies.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

Tia Leschke

> > Supernatural BC <g> I live near Victoria, but he's found it other
places
> > as well. It's a major contributor to the BC economy.
> > Tia
> >
> >
>
> We are one of the greenest places on earth. Which dumpsters in Victoria
> specefically?

Nice try, Nancy. <G> I don't think he'd be happy for me to tell anyone, if
I knew, which I don't. But I've heard that it's true all over the province.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

nancylowrie

--- In [email protected], Tia Leschke <leschke@s...>
wrote:
>
>
> > > Supernatural BC <g> I live near Victoria, but he's found it
other
> places
> > > as well. It's a major contributor to the BC economy.
> > > Tia
> > >
> > >
> >
> > We are one of the greenest places on earth. Which dumpsters in
Victoria
> > specefically?
>
> Nice try, Nancy. <G> I don't think he'd be happy for me to tell
anyone, if
> I knew, which I don't. But I've heard that it's true all over the
province.
> Tia
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary
> saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
> leschke@s...


Well, it was worth trying. That would be a good unschooling quest,
what is in the dumpsters in the northern part of the province and
what is in the dumpsters in the southern part of the province.
My mom was talking to a fellow in the dumpster in her building today,
and he was having a good time and finding good stuff. When my son
sees people in the dumpster, we have a good old talk about recycling,
helping others with challenges, etc. Now I will have to add the
search for large green garbage bags full of herbs.
Nancy

athom

--- In [email protected], Tia Leschke <leschke@s...>
wrote:
<<>>We are one of the greenest places on earth. Which dumpsters in
Victoria specefically?<<>>
<>Nice try, Nancy. <G> I don't think he'd be happy for me to tell
anyone, if I knew, which I don't. But I've heard that it's true all
over the province.<>

For those who are interested check out Ann Arbor, MI, the city that
went to decriminalization of certain green stuff back in the '70s and
has maintained that position, off and on depending on fluctuating
political regimes, allowing folks to practice their agrarian skills
with small amounts of their own homegrown greenery and to taste the
fruits of their efforts without going to jail. Of course that was
only within the Ann Arbor city limits, not on campus (University of
Michigan) and not in the surrounding county areas. No need to go
dumpster diving in Ann Arbor, or many other little secret pockets of
sanity around the country. Since 1973, 12 state legislatures --
Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi,
Nebraska, Nevada, New York, North Carolina, Ohio and Oregon -- have
enacted versions of decriminalization. In each of these states, MJ
users no longer face jail time (nor in most cases, arrest or criminal
records) for the possession or use of small amounts of greenery.
Internationally, many states and nations have enacted similar
policies.

I cite Ann Arbor because that's the place I know about personally and
research data from Ann Arbor revealed that during a period where drug
policy oscillated between "prohibition, reduction of penalties (but
still involving possible imprisonment), 'decriminalization' (maximum
penalty of a $5 fine), reinstatement of severe penalties, and
finally, a return to 'decriminalization'" there was no change in MJ
use rates. Finally, the researcher Single reports through the
analysis of national drug use surveys of students conducted since
1975, the impact of the changing law resulted in no effect on this
substance's use among high school seniors.

Just that I don't think many folks know about these kinds of things.
Nor about the studies that indicate that decriminalization does not
lead to higher crime rates or other abuses that certain groups like
to tout. Anyone know of any other pockets of sanity they might want
to acknowledge? Isn't it still legal to grow your own in Alaska? Or
did that one change, too?

Just for the record I am not a member of NORML and I do not advocate
use of this substance, nor do I personally use it. Heck, I don't
even drink coffee! And as a homeopath I don't advocate the use of
any substance that might complicate the symptom picture for me.
However I also have been involved in several prison reform study
groups and find that the kinds of laws that throw people in jail and
force them to pay for lawyers, set them up with a criminal record for
this type of activity, including points toward various states' "3
strikes" policies, often do contribute to criminalizing people and
turning them from happy productive citizens to those of branded
criminality; a stigma that isn't always easy to shake, unless you are
a rock star or movie icon, of course.

Norma
(who doesn't live in A2 anymore)

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Okay, I better remember this!! (right)

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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:57 PM
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> From: coyote's corner
> <<Can that brownie recipe be low fat??>>
>
>
> Gee, is there such a thing that is worth it????
> That would be the whole point of the spiked brownies, indulgent,
delicious, fattening but who cares? LOL!!!!

Besides which, it's the fat that extracts the goodies.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...





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[email protected]

In a message dated 3/30/03 10:03:50 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Since 1973, 12 state legislatures --
Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi,
Nebraska, Nevada, New York, North Carolina, Ohio and Oregon -- have
enacted versions of decriminalization >>

Alaska is no longer on that list, at least it wasn't right after I moved away.
While I was growing up it was legal to buy, but not sell marijuana. Go figure.
And it was illegal to grow it...always. So it wasn't exactly complete
decriminalization.
It's not legal now, my Dad was one of the major people fighting to make it
illegal again.

Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."

----Frances Hodgson Burnett