Does our society overvalue socialization?
Beth Burnham
I am on an anthropological quest as I am dealing with those negative folks who worry about my kids missing out on all that "socialization" they get in school.
Do you guys feel that our society over values or emphasizes this value to an extreme degree not natural for all esp. in an institutional setting?
Up here in New England they are penalized for even being a minute late getting in the classroom. I think we may always be late to things we just don't enjoy but even getting to work on time is not something my DH is good at even though he likes going to work most days. I look forward to not having to be on time for school every morning. Am I teaching negative values or just that being on time isn't as important as sense of self? Socializing by being silent and still in a group setting as in the military is also against my core beliefs. I am sure all cultures have their peer pressures. I am happy that in this day and age we don't have to give in to any peer pressure of any kind and really know freedom is there something wrong with this that I am missing?
Beth
Do you guys feel that our society over values or emphasizes this value to an extreme degree not natural for all esp. in an institutional setting?
Up here in New England they are penalized for even being a minute late getting in the classroom. I think we may always be late to things we just don't enjoy but even getting to work on time is not something my DH is good at even though he likes going to work most days. I look forward to not having to be on time for school every morning. Am I teaching negative values or just that being on time isn't as important as sense of self? Socializing by being silent and still in a group setting as in the military is also against my core beliefs. I am sure all cultures have their peer pressures. I am happy that in this day and age we don't have to give in to any peer pressure of any kind and really know freedom is there something wrong with this that I am missing?
Beth
deejay
The type of socialization you mentioned is valuable in my opinion, especially if the following are all you want your kids to be about: being popular, egotisical, getting into the right college, driving an expensive car, getting a high paying yes man job, marrying into the right family, knowing all the right people, avoiding the wrong people like the plague, keeping up with the Joneses and so on and so on until they retire right before they die from the stress and then realize they don't have a clue who they are and just spend the rest of their days in front of the TV set.
Not me, and not you guys, or you probably wouldn't be on this list :)
Sorry, it just came out! LOL
Betsy Wright
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Not me, and not you guys, or you probably wouldn't be on this list :)
Sorry, it just came out! LOL
Betsy Wright
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----- Original Message -----
From: Beth Burnham
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Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 2:11 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Does our society overvalue socialization?
From: "Beth Burnham" <beth2002@...>
I am on an anthropological quest as I am dealing with those negative folks who worry about my kids missing out on all that "socialization" they get in school.
Do you guys feel that our society over values or emphasizes this value to an extreme degree not natural for all esp. in an institutional setting?
Up here in New England they are penalized for even being a minute late getting in the classroom. I think we may always be late to things we just don't enjoy but even getting to work on time is not something my DH is good at even though he likes going to work most days. I look forward to not having to be on time for school every morning. Am I teaching negative values or just that being on time isn't as important as sense of self? Socializing by being silent and still in a group setting as in the military is also against my core beliefs. I am sure all cultures have their peer pressures. I am happy that in this day and age we don't have to give in to any peer pressure of any kind and really know freedom is there something wrong with this that I am missing?
Beth
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In a message dated 02/05/2000 7:14:29 PM !!!First Boot!!!, beth2002@...
writes:
<< I am on an anthropological quest as I am dealing with those negative folks
who worry about my kids missing out on all that "socialization" they get in
school.
Do you guys feel that our society over values or emphasizes this value to
an extreme degree not natural for all esp. in an institutional setting? >>
I feel that this study would be severely biased if you are planning to survey
this group. Like "preaching to the choir." Of course, most of us are going
to agree with you.
Nance
writes:
<< I am on an anthropological quest as I am dealing with those negative folks
who worry about my kids missing out on all that "socialization" they get in
school.
Do you guys feel that our society over values or emphasizes this value to
an extreme degree not natural for all esp. in an institutional setting? >>
I feel that this study would be severely biased if you are planning to survey
this group. Like "preaching to the choir." Of course, most of us are going
to agree with you.
Nance
John O. Andersen
Was it someone on this list who gave the classic reply to the question
whether our children have a problem with socialization?
THE ANSWER:
"Well, at first it was a problem, but since we've cut back on outside
activities and play dates, I think we've gotten it under control."
John Andersen
whether our children have a problem with socialization?
THE ANSWER:
"Well, at first it was a problem, but since we've cut back on outside
activities and play dates, I think we've gotten it under control."
John Andersen
[email protected]
In a message dated 02/06/2000 1:50:58 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
andersen@... writes:
<< THE ANSWER:
"Well, at first it was a problem, but since we've cut back on outside
activities and play dates, I think we've gotten it under control."
John Andersen
Nance
andersen@... writes:
<< THE ANSWER:
"Well, at first it was a problem, but since we've cut back on outside
activities and play dates, I think we've gotten it under control."
John Andersen
>>Oh oh oh -- this is perfect! Thank you!!
Nance
Brynn
Ha ha ha, that would be me. It's the greatest one ever! Thanks!
Brynn~
"To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best night and day
to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle any human
being can fight and never stop fighting."
--e.e. cummings
-----Original Message-----
From: John O. Andersen [mailto:andersen@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 5:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Does our society overvalue
socialization?
From: "John O. Andersen" <andersen@...>
Was it someone on this list who gave the classic reply to the question
whether our children have a problem with socialization?
THE ANSWER:
"Well, at first it was a problem, but since we've cut back on outside
activities and play dates, I think we've gotten it under control."
John Andersen
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Brynn~
"To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best night and day
to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle any human
being can fight and never stop fighting."
--e.e. cummings
-----Original Message-----
From: John O. Andersen [mailto:andersen@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 5:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Does our society overvalue
socialization?
From: "John O. Andersen" <andersen@...>
Was it someone on this list who gave the classic reply to the question
whether our children have a problem with socialization?
THE ANSWER:
"Well, at first it was a problem, but since we've cut back on outside
activities and play dates, I think we've gotten it under control."
John Andersen
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