Time
Shyrley
I was gazing out of the window earlier watching my kids when I started to thnk about time.
Have you noticed that now, in the 21st century, when we have more labour-saving gadgets than ever before, we appear to have less time?
All these gadgets were meant to free up our time, give us more leisure etc etc but people seem more harassed and busy than ever. Many HS'ers book playdates weeks in advance. No-one just drops round for
coffee anymore. One woman told me she couldn't spare 10 minutes to hang laundry outside to help the environment because she was 'too busy'.
All this stressful rushing around can't be right.
I suppose thats why I like unschooling so much. No deadlines, no schedules, no stress. Just time unfolding as it should :-)
Shyrley
Have you noticed that now, in the 21st century, when we have more labour-saving gadgets than ever before, we appear to have less time?
All these gadgets were meant to free up our time, give us more leisure etc etc but people seem more harassed and busy than ever. Many HS'ers book playdates weeks in advance. No-one just drops round for
coffee anymore. One woman told me she couldn't spare 10 minutes to hang laundry outside to help the environment because she was 'too busy'.
All this stressful rushing around can't be right.
I suppose thats why I like unschooling so much. No deadlines, no schedules, no stress. Just time unfolding as it should :-)
Shyrley
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In a message dated 3/18/03 5:03:34 PM, shyrley.williams@... writes:
<< All this stressful rushing around can't be right.>>
Being in suburban Virginia probably makes it seem even worse. I wish your
time in the U.S. had been in a less stressful region.
Sandra
<< All this stressful rushing around can't be right.>>
Being in suburban Virginia probably makes it seem even worse. I wish your
time in the U.S. had been in a less stressful region.
Sandra
Have a Nice Day!
Speaking of a more peaceful environment, I remember visiting a Navajo reservation out there in NM. It was incredible. It was SO quiet...just the wind rushing over the desert.
I don't think I've EVER heard that kind of quiet, even in the mountains, but the mountains are a close second. Course, there we still have cars driving by where we are.
Kristen
I don't think I've EVER heard that kind of quiet, even in the mountains, but the mountains are a close second. Course, there we still have cars driving by where we are.
Kristen
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In a message dated 3/18/03 5:03:34 PM, shyrley.williams@... writes:
<< All this stressful rushing around can't be right.>>
Being in suburban Virginia probably makes it seem even worse. I wish your
time in the U.S. had been in a less stressful region.
Sandra
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"Have a Nice Day!" wrote:
noise I didn't realise how stressful it is.
I would love to live somewhere where there was no noise pollution. Even in darkest Wales you can still hear traffioc in the distance :-(
Shyrley
> Speaking of a more peaceful environment, I remember visiting a Navajo reservation out there in NM. It was incredible. It was SO quiet...just the wind rushing over the desert.I remember standing in the middle of Death Valley last December. There was no noise apart from the wind. It was incredible. I actually *felt* my ears relax and tension leaving my head. I'm so used to
>
> I don't think I've EVER heard that kind of quiet, even in the mountains, but the mountains are a close second. Course, there we still have cars driving by where we are.
>
noise I didn't realise how stressful it is.
I would love to live somewhere where there was no noise pollution. Even in darkest Wales you can still hear traffioc in the distance :-(
Shyrley
coyote's corner
Back when I was taking classes at the University of Rhode Island in the
early to mid eighties, a study was published. Now, I forget many of the
details, but it allegedly studied homemakers over the course of 80 - 100
years! Turns out that we ended up with approx. 20 minutes more 'free time'.
Much of this rat race is our own choosing. Many two income families need
money for items that are not necessary. Here, in RI, where the economy is
not good, I often see people throwing good clothing away, buying whatever
their children want as often as they want it. Consumerism is no reason to
leave the raising of your children to others.
Janis
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From: Shyrley [mailto:shyrley.williams@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Time
I was gazing out of the window earlier watching my kids when I started to
thnk about time.
Have you noticed that now, in the 21st century, when we have more
labour-saving gadgets than ever before, we appear to have less time?
All these gadgets were meant to free up our time, give us more leisure etc
etc but people seem more harassed and busy than ever. Many HS'ers book
playdates weeks in advance. No-one just drops round for
coffee anymore. One woman told me she couldn't spare 10 minutes to hang
laundry outside to help the environment because she was 'too busy'.
All this stressful rushing around can't be right.
I suppose thats why I like unschooling so much. No deadlines, no schedules,
no stress. Just time unfolding as it should :-)
Shyrley
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early to mid eighties, a study was published. Now, I forget many of the
details, but it allegedly studied homemakers over the course of 80 - 100
years! Turns out that we ended up with approx. 20 minutes more 'free time'.
Much of this rat race is our own choosing. Many two income families need
money for items that are not necessary. Here, in RI, where the economy is
not good, I often see people throwing good clothing away, buying whatever
their children want as often as they want it. Consumerism is no reason to
leave the raising of your children to others.
Janis
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From: Shyrley [mailto:shyrley.williams@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Time
I was gazing out of the window earlier watching my kids when I started to
thnk about time.
Have you noticed that now, in the 21st century, when we have more
labour-saving gadgets than ever before, we appear to have less time?
All these gadgets were meant to free up our time, give us more leisure etc
etc but people seem more harassed and busy than ever. Many HS'ers book
playdates weeks in advance. No-one just drops round for
coffee anymore. One woman told me she couldn't spare 10 minutes to hang
laundry outside to help the environment because she was 'too busy'.
All this stressful rushing around can't be right.
I suppose thats why I like unschooling so much. No deadlines, no schedules,
no stress. Just time unfolding as it should :-)
Shyrley
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Shyrley
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stuff you have, the more classes you do has come to be equated with how good you are. Other humans have become superficial relationships.
30 years ago my mum raised 3 kids alone. She washed laundry by hand and dried it on the line. She walked to the shops (she couldn't afford a car until I was 25) most days. Yet she had plenty of time too
see her friends. They dug vegetable gardens together. They made wine and then sat around drinking it. I remember plenty of time to play in next doors garden.
My cousin's two children never play outside. They don't have *time*. Both parenst work so the kids go to a child-minder after school. When they are picked up it is swimming class or soccer practice or
piano lesson. Then its homework, TV and bed. Weekends are spent getting the groceries or 'shopping'. They've never played in a stream or made snowmen. My cousin is contsantly moaning that he has no
*time*. I've been to his house. Both of them have shiny new cars, a wide-screen TV - the kids have TV and DVD players too (they are 7 and 4). The kids get new clothes every week.They have every labour
saving device known to man. Most of this stuff they have loans for. So they both have to work in order to pay for the stuff they bought that was meant to give them more *time*.
When I sugested to my cousin that he could work less over-time if he wasn't paying a car loan (and UK interest rates for car loans are often 17-23%) he wanted to know how he'd get too work? It's a mile
away......
It seems like madness. They are not happy, even with all this stuff they have. They rarely see family as they are so busy. They have to schedule appointments to see friends, often weeks in advance.
My cousin once said he envied me staying at home, having friends drop in unexpectedly for coffee, my long walks with the kids doing nothing in particuarly. Yet he could not see that it was his desire
for more new shiny stuff that meant that he could do none of those things. He's over-weight and stressed :-(
Shyrley
> Back when I was taking classes at the University of Rhode Island in theYeah, the rat race is too blame and, I think, because we have lost contact with ourselves and each other. People rush from one meeting/activity to the next. They do the same with their kids. The more
> early to mid eighties, a study was published. Now, I forget many of the
> details, but it allegedly studied homemakers over the course of 80 - 100
> years! Turns out that we ended up with approx. 20 minutes more 'free time'.
>
> Much of this rat race is our own choosing. Many two income families need
> money for items that are not necessary. Here, in RI, where the economy is
> not good, I often see people throwing good clothing away, buying whatever
> their children want as often as they want it. Consumerism is no reason to
> leave the raising of your children to others.
>
> Janis
>
stuff you have, the more classes you do has come to be equated with how good you are. Other humans have become superficial relationships.
30 years ago my mum raised 3 kids alone. She washed laundry by hand and dried it on the line. She walked to the shops (she couldn't afford a car until I was 25) most days. Yet she had plenty of time too
see her friends. They dug vegetable gardens together. They made wine and then sat around drinking it. I remember plenty of time to play in next doors garden.
My cousin's two children never play outside. They don't have *time*. Both parenst work so the kids go to a child-minder after school. When they are picked up it is swimming class or soccer practice or
piano lesson. Then its homework, TV and bed. Weekends are spent getting the groceries or 'shopping'. They've never played in a stream or made snowmen. My cousin is contsantly moaning that he has no
*time*. I've been to his house. Both of them have shiny new cars, a wide-screen TV - the kids have TV and DVD players too (they are 7 and 4). The kids get new clothes every week.They have every labour
saving device known to man. Most of this stuff they have loans for. So they both have to work in order to pay for the stuff they bought that was meant to give them more *time*.
When I sugested to my cousin that he could work less over-time if he wasn't paying a car loan (and UK interest rates for car loans are often 17-23%) he wanted to know how he'd get too work? It's a mile
away......
It seems like madness. They are not happy, even with all this stuff they have. They rarely see family as they are so busy. They have to schedule appointments to see friends, often weeks in advance.
My cousin once said he envied me staying at home, having friends drop in unexpectedly for coffee, my long walks with the kids doing nothing in particuarly. Yet he could not see that it was his desire
for more new shiny stuff that meant that he could do none of those things. He's over-weight and stressed :-(
Shyrley
nellebelle
When I was young, we lived very close to Interstate 5 in Tacoma. Later, I
moved to Kodiak Island. I remember standing near a river and thinking that
it sounded like the freeway back home!
Mary Ellen
----- snip----- Even in darkest Wales you can still hear traffioc in the
distance :-(
moved to Kodiak Island. I remember standing near a river and thinking that
it sounded like the freeway back home!
Mary Ellen
----- snip----- Even in darkest Wales you can still hear traffioc in the
distance :-(
Jodi
Shyrley wrote:
playdates weeks in advance. No-one just drops round for
here. Then you could come to my house for coffee anytime and we could
complain that we're not in England. We get to live without our gadgets
fairly often here too when all that snow knocks the power out or the pipes
freeze or.....better not keep on or you'll notice the downside to NH :-).
Jodi
> All these gadgets were meant to free up our time, give us more leisure etcetc but people seem more harassed and busy than ever. Many HS'ers book
playdates weeks in advance. No-one just drops round for
> coffee anymore.Well Shyrley you still could move to rural NH for the remainder of your time
here. Then you could come to my house for coffee anytime and we could
complain that we're not in England. We get to live without our gadgets
fairly often here too when all that snow knocks the power out or the pipes
freeze or.....better not keep on or you'll notice the downside to NH :-).
Jodi
Shyrley
Jodi wrote:
We're still waiting for his security clearance. Coming up too 2 years now.....
Just how long does it take to check someones background! I mean, his last job was for the British Minstry of Defence and for NATO. He worked for them for 10 years. Hardly 'Mister Unknown Background'!
Sigh
Shyrlet
> Shyrley wrote:If DH could get a job there.....
> > All these gadgets were meant to free up our time, give us more leisure etc
> etc but people seem more harassed and busy than ever. Many HS'ers book
> playdates weeks in advance. No-one just drops round for
> > coffee anymore.
>
> Well Shyrley you still could move to rural NH for the remainder of your time
> here. Then you could come to my house for coffee anytime and we could
> complain that we're not in England. We get to live without our gadgets
> fairly often here too when all that snow knocks the power out or the pipes
> freeze or.....better not keep on or you'll notice the downside to NH :-).
>
> Jodi
>
We're still waiting for his security clearance. Coming up too 2 years now.....
Just how long does it take to check someones background! I mean, his last job was for the British Minstry of Defence and for NATO. He worked for them for 10 years. Hardly 'Mister Unknown Background'!
Sigh
Shyrlet
zenmomma *
>>When I was young, we lived very close to Interstate 5 in Tacoma. Later, IWe live up in the mountains and that is the way the highways are
>>moved to Kodiak Island. I remember standing near a river and thinking
>>that it sounded like the freeway back home!>>
described-soothing "mountain river" sounds. <g> It ain't the same.:-P
Life is good.
~Mary
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I'm sure up on the hills of PA where I lived, it was quiet. We were on a dead end street and aside from crickets, can't see much more making noise. I just really don't remember it being quiet.
I moved to downtown Miami when I first left home 26 years ago. The contrast was exciting and it scared me too. After all these years of being here, not anywhere near as isolated as where I grew up, I got use to noise.
A few years ago we vacationed at Anna Maria Island on the west coast of FL. Very small thin island. Our house was right on the Bay of Tampa. I remember going out on the balcony the first night and calling Joe out. I said listen. You couldn't hear a thing. Absolutely nothing. Not the water, not birds, not crickets, nothing. It was amazing to me. Sat out there with my wine for quite awhile just listening to nothing. It was wonderful but not sure if I could live like that. I actually like hearing the birds at night at the sound of the distant train going by.
Mary B
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I moved to downtown Miami when I first left home 26 years ago. The contrast was exciting and it scared me too. After all these years of being here, not anywhere near as isolated as where I grew up, I got use to noise.
A few years ago we vacationed at Anna Maria Island on the west coast of FL. Very small thin island. Our house was right on the Bay of Tampa. I remember going out on the balcony the first night and calling Joe out. I said listen. You couldn't hear a thing. Absolutely nothing. Not the water, not birds, not crickets, nothing. It was amazing to me. Sat out there with my wine for quite awhile just listening to nothing. It was wonderful but not sure if I could live like that. I actually like hearing the birds at night at the sound of the distant train going by.
Mary B
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In a message dated 3/19/03 8:31:45 AM, nellebelle@... writes:
<< When I was young, we lived very close to Interstate 5 in Tacoma. Later, I
moved to Kodiak Island. I remember standing near a river and thinking that
it sounded like the freeway back home! >>
When I lived near a freeway, I noticed that if you don't listen so
specifically, it sounds like a river. So I let it be a river that "noised"
me to sleep.
Sandra
<< When I was young, we lived very close to Interstate 5 in Tacoma. Later, I
moved to Kodiak Island. I remember standing near a river and thinking that
it sounded like the freeway back home! >>
When I lived near a freeway, I noticed that if you don't listen so
specifically, it sounds like a river. So I let it be a river that "noised"
me to sleep.
Sandra
mary krzyzanowski
I remember an article in Mothering magazine that was about "time saving"
devices. It mentioned how we now wear new clothes daily, thus creating more
laundry whereas people used to wear the same clothes for work and 1 "Sunday"
outfit. We now cook many things for a meal while in the past a meal usually
consisted of a stew cooked in 1 pot.
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devices. It mentioned how we now wear new clothes daily, thus creating more
laundry whereas people used to wear the same clothes for work and 1 "Sunday"
outfit. We now cook many things for a meal while in the past a meal usually
consisted of a stew cooked in 1 pot.
Mary-NY
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>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Time
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:00:06 -0500
>
>Back when I was taking classes at the University of Rhode Island in the
>early to mid eighties, a study was published. Now, I forget many of the
>details, but it allegedly studied homemakers over the course of 80 - 100
>years! Turns out that we ended up with approx. 20 minutes more 'free
>time'.
>
>Much of this rat race is our own choosing. Many two income families need
>money for items that are not necessary. Here, in RI, where the economy is
>not good, I often see people throwing good clothing away, buying whatever
>their children want as often as they want it. Consumerism is no reason to
>leave the raising of your children to others.
>
>Janis
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Shyrley [mailto:shyrley.williams@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:14 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Time
>
>
>
>I was gazing out of the window earlier watching my kids when I started to
>thnk about time.
>Have you noticed that now, in the 21st century, when we have more
>labour-saving gadgets than ever before, we appear to have less time?
>All these gadgets were meant to free up our time, give us more leisure etc
>etc but people seem more harassed and busy than ever. Many HS'ers book
>playdates weeks in advance. No-one just drops round for
>coffee anymore. One woman told me she couldn't spare 10 minutes to hang
>laundry outside to help the environment because she was 'too busy'.
>All this stressful rushing around can't be right.
>I suppose thats why I like unschooling so much. No deadlines, no schedules,
>no stress. Just time unfolding as it should :-)
>
>Shyrley
>
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>>I remember an article in Mothering magazine that was about "time saving"We have also used those time saving devices as an excuse/reason to do
>>devices. It mentioned how we now wear new clothes daily, thus creating
>>more laundry whereas people used to wear the same clothes for work and 1
>>"Sunday" outfit. We now cook many things for a meal while in the past a
>>meal usually consisted of a stew cooked in 1 pot.>>
more/have more. Our wardrobes are stuffed, we have bigger houses to clean
and maintain, lots more dishes and cooking utensils to wash, more places to
go-farther and farther away, etc. Rather than relaxing in the time saved, we
just filled it up with more stuff and things to do.
Life is good.
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In a message dated 3/19/03 4:40:34 PM, zenmomma@... writes:
<< Rather than relaxing in the time saved, we
just filled it up with more stuff and things to do.
things and to acquire things and make things and store things up.
Sandra
<< Rather than relaxing in the time saved, we
just filled it up with more stuff and things to do.
>>Humans LIKE to do stuff, and some of the stuff they like to do is to invent
things and to acquire things and make things and store things up.
Sandra
Shyrley
SandraDodd@... wrote:
Shyrley
> In a message dated 3/19/03 4:40:34 PM, zenmomma@... writes:Nowt wrong with that unless it controls and rules you.
>
> << Rather than relaxing in the time saved, we
> just filled it up with more stuff and things to do.
> >>
>
> Humans LIKE to do stuff, and some of the stuff they like to do is to invent
> things and to acquire things and make things and store things up.
>
Shyrley
zenmomma *
>>>Humans LIKE to do stuff, and some of the stuff they like to do is toI know.
>>>invent things and to acquire things and make things and store things
>>>up.>>
I am of the belief that we could all do with more Nothing in our lives. No
time. No thinking. Just being. I'm probably in the minority.
Life is good.
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> >>Much of this rat race is our own choosing. Many two income families needmoney for items that are not necessary. Here, in RI, where the economy is
not good, I often see people throwing good clothing away, buying whatever
their children want as often as they want it. Consumerism is no reason to
leave the raising of your children to others.<<<
I am amazed at the amount of new mothers going back to work. My sister had a
baby last year (he's 6 mnths) and several friends/family members in her
husbands family also had babies at the same time. My sis is the only one not
going back to work. One mum leaves the house at 6:30am and returns at
6:30pm. I say next time buy a dog!!
Julie
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In a message dated 19/03/2003 16:29:53 Pacific Standard Time,
zenmomma@... writes:
desparately crave what you describe. I think it drives the voluntary
simplicity movement for one thing.
Nancy
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zenmomma@... writes:
> I am of the belief that we could all do with more Nothing in our lives. NoI suspect that you are not at all alone, I know of many people who
> time. No thinking. Just being. I'm probably in the minority.
>
>
desparately crave what you describe. I think it drives the voluntary
simplicity movement for one thing.
Nancy
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Have a Nice Day!
<< Rather than relaxing in the time saved, we
just filled it up with more stuff and things to do.
Kristen
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just filled it up with more stuff and things to do.
>>I think though that those of us here though realize that what we fill it with is a choice now, as opposed to 100 years ago when laundry, cooking from scratch, seasonal food preservation, and whatever else was a necessity for survival.
Kristen
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Have a Nice Day!
I am of the belief that we could all do with more Nothing in our lives. No
time. No thinking. Just being. I'm probably in the minority.<<<
I'm with you.
Kristen
Life is good.
~Mary
"The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the green
earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling truly alive."
~ Thich Nhat Hanh
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time. No thinking. Just being. I'm probably in the minority.<<<
I'm with you.
Kristen
Life is good.
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In a message dated 3/19/03 6:00:17 PM, mjsolich@... writes:
<< One mum leaves the house at 6:30am and returns at
6:30pm. I say next time buy a dog!! >>
Why leave a dog for twelve hours?
Neither way's great.
Sandra
<< One mum leaves the house at 6:30am and returns at
6:30pm. I say next time buy a dog!! >>
Why leave a dog for twelve hours?
Neither way's great.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 3/19/03 7:04:32 PM, LOWRIEK@... writes:
<< > I am of the belief that we could all do with more Nothing in our lives.
No
Have you heard Swami Beyondananda's bit on "nothing"?
He says he's selling nothing, and it's wonderful.
Nothing will get kids to eat vegetables.
Nothing succeeds like sucess!
Oh cool! I found one in writing. (I know it from a recording, but this has
more, and fun stuff!)
http://www.lightworks.com/MonthlyAspectarian/1998/April/0498-20.htm
A Special Message From The Swami
What if I told you you could do nothing all day and become fabulously wealthy
in the process? If you say "No way!" I say, "Absolutely right." Because now,
thanks to my new network marketing company, NoWay, you can make a fortune
selling boxes of Nothing. I want you to think about all those people who told
you that nothing could make you rich and successful. Well, here is your chance
to prove them right! Yes, if you feel you have been working for nothing all
these years, now it is time to have Nothing to work for you.
I tell you, this is a business opportunity whose time has come, because no
matter what your problem is, Nothing will help. For example, Nothing has been
proven to cure every disease imaginable. That's right. Studies show that
placebos alone are effective in about 20% of cases — and what better placebo
than Nothing? And you can forget about pesky product liability lawsuits. We
promise Nothing — and we deliver. How many companies can make that claim?
Imagine how refreshing it will be for your friends who have been inundated
with multilevel marketing opportunities. You can truthfully tell them you
have Nothing to sell — and then sell it to them! Yes, in a world filled with
products that are really nothing disguised as something, you can sell
something disguised as nothing. Think of all those pessimystics out there who
insist that nothing can help the starving multitudes, nothing can alleviate
poverty, nothing can revive our neighborless `hoods. I say, let's prove them
right and prove them wrong at the same time. Imagine armies of homeless folks
or unemployed young men selling boxes of Nothing door-to-door. "They told me
nothing could get me off the streets," they might say, "and I am hoping they
are right. Will you help?"
Now why, you might ask, would anyone be interested in buying Nothing? Well,
for one thing, most of us already have everything. In fact, we have so much o
f everything that we can't appreciate nothing. After all, God made the
entire Universe from nothing. And the same holds true of our own creations.
Every painting begins with an empty canvas, every book with a blank page,
every symphony with silence to be filled. As Harry Cohen Baba used to say,
"Listen, if you don't know nothing, you don't know nothing."
Of course, being a FUNdamentalist, I couldn't resist putting some funny jokes
about nothing on the box. This is a perfect product for those diagnosed with
humorrhoids and who insist, "Nothing makes me laugh." So not only will you be
striking a blow for the invisible nothing in a world cluttered with visible
somethings, but you will be raising the laugh force on the planet — and
creating a mannafestival of the first order. Imagine millions and millions of
people all around the globe being fed and prospered by Nothing. Now that's
what I call manifesting manna!
<< > I am of the belief that we could all do with more Nothing in our lives.
No
> time. No thinking. Just being. I'm probably in the minority. >>Nothing is keeping you from doing that. <g>
Have you heard Swami Beyondananda's bit on "nothing"?
He says he's selling nothing, and it's wonderful.
Nothing will get kids to eat vegetables.
Nothing succeeds like sucess!
Oh cool! I found one in writing. (I know it from a recording, but this has
more, and fun stuff!)
http://www.lightworks.com/MonthlyAspectarian/1998/April/0498-20.htm
A Special Message From The Swami
What if I told you you could do nothing all day and become fabulously wealthy
in the process? If you say "No way!" I say, "Absolutely right." Because now,
thanks to my new network marketing company, NoWay, you can make a fortune
selling boxes of Nothing. I want you to think about all those people who told
you that nothing could make you rich and successful. Well, here is your chance
to prove them right! Yes, if you feel you have been working for nothing all
these years, now it is time to have Nothing to work for you.
I tell you, this is a business opportunity whose time has come, because no
matter what your problem is, Nothing will help. For example, Nothing has been
proven to cure every disease imaginable. That's right. Studies show that
placebos alone are effective in about 20% of cases — and what better placebo
than Nothing? And you can forget about pesky product liability lawsuits. We
promise Nothing — and we deliver. How many companies can make that claim?
Imagine how refreshing it will be for your friends who have been inundated
with multilevel marketing opportunities. You can truthfully tell them you
have Nothing to sell — and then sell it to them! Yes, in a world filled with
products that are really nothing disguised as something, you can sell
something disguised as nothing. Think of all those pessimystics out there who
insist that nothing can help the starving multitudes, nothing can alleviate
poverty, nothing can revive our neighborless `hoods. I say, let's prove them
right and prove them wrong at the same time. Imagine armies of homeless folks
or unemployed young men selling boxes of Nothing door-to-door. "They told me
nothing could get me off the streets," they might say, "and I am hoping they
are right. Will you help?"
Now why, you might ask, would anyone be interested in buying Nothing? Well,
for one thing, most of us already have everything. In fact, we have so much o
f everything that we can't appreciate nothing. After all, God made the
entire Universe from nothing. And the same holds true of our own creations.
Every painting begins with an empty canvas, every book with a blank page,
every symphony with silence to be filled. As Harry Cohen Baba used to say,
"Listen, if you don't know nothing, you don't know nothing."
Of course, being a FUNdamentalist, I couldn't resist putting some funny jokes
about nothing on the box. This is a perfect product for those diagnosed with
humorrhoids and who insist, "Nothing makes me laugh." So not only will you be
striking a blow for the invisible nothing in a world cluttered with visible
somethings, but you will be raising the laugh force on the planet — and
creating a mannafestival of the first order. Imagine millions and millions of
people all around the globe being fed and prospered by Nothing. Now that's
what I call manifesting manna!
Bill and Diane
>This is really what neices and nephews are for--contact with the future
>
><< One mum leaves the house at 6:30am and returns at
>
>6:30pm. I say next time buy a dog!! >>
>
>Why leave a dog for twelve hours?
>
with a low time investment.
:-) Diane
nellebelle
Not to mention that the air near a river (at least clean rivers!) has a
clean smell and soothing ions. The air near a highway...
Mary Ellen
----- snip----- > We live up in the mountains and that is the way the
highways are
clean smell and soothing ions. The air near a highway...
Mary Ellen
----- snip----- > We live up in the mountains and that is the way the
highways are
> described-soothing "mountain river" sounds. <g> It ain't the same.:-P
coyote's corner
I've often thought that consumerism is the real religion of most people.
Coyotes Corner
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-----Original Message-----
From: Shyrley [mailto:shyrley.williams@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Time
coyote's corner wrote:
with ourselves and each other. People rush from one meeting/activity to the
next. They do the same with their kids. The more
stuff you have, the more classes you do has come to be equated with how good
you are. Other humans have become superficial relationships.
30 years ago my mum raised 3 kids alone. She washed laundry by hand and
dried it on the line. She walked to the shops (she couldn't afford a car
until I was 25) most days. Yet she had plenty of time too
see her friends. They dug vegetable gardens together. They made wine and
then sat around drinking it. I remember plenty of time to play in next doors
garden.
My cousin's two children never play outside. They don't have *time*. Both
parenst work so the kids go to a child-minder after school. When they are
picked up it is swimming class or soccer practice or
piano lesson. Then its homework, TV and bed. Weekends are spent getting the
groceries or 'shopping'. They've never played in a stream or made snowmen.
My cousin is contsantly moaning that he has no
*time*. I've been to his house. Both of them have shiny new cars, a
wide-screen TV - the kids have TV and DVD players too (they are 7 and 4).
The kids get new clothes every week.They have every labour
saving device known to man. Most of this stuff they have loans for. So they
both have to work in order to pay for the stuff they bought that was meant
to give them more *time*.
When I sugested to my cousin that he could work less over-time if he wasn't
paying a car loan (and UK interest rates for car loans are often 17-23%) he
wanted to know how he'd get too work? It's a mile
away......
It seems like madness. They are not happy, even with all this stuff they
have. They rarely see family as they are so busy. They have to schedule
appointments to see friends, often weeks in advance.
My cousin once said he envied me staying at home, having friends drop in
unexpectedly for coffee, my long walks with the kids doing nothing in
particuarly. Yet he could not see that it was his desire
for more new shiny stuff that meant that he could do none of those things.
He's over-weight and stressed :-(
Shyrley
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From: Shyrley [mailto:shyrley.williams@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Time
coyote's corner wrote:
> Back when I was taking classes at the University of Rhode Island in thetime'.
> early to mid eighties, a study was published. Now, I forget many of the
> details, but it allegedly studied homemakers over the course of 80 - 100
> years! Turns out that we ended up with approx. 20 minutes more 'free
>Yeah, the rat race is too blame and, I think, because we have lost contact
> Much of this rat race is our own choosing. Many two income families need
> money for items that are not necessary. Here, in RI, where the economy is
> not good, I often see people throwing good clothing away, buying whatever
> their children want as often as they want it. Consumerism is no reason to
> leave the raising of your children to others.
>
> Janis
>
with ourselves and each other. People rush from one meeting/activity to the
next. They do the same with their kids. The more
stuff you have, the more classes you do has come to be equated with how good
you are. Other humans have become superficial relationships.
30 years ago my mum raised 3 kids alone. She washed laundry by hand and
dried it on the line. She walked to the shops (she couldn't afford a car
until I was 25) most days. Yet she had plenty of time too
see her friends. They dug vegetable gardens together. They made wine and
then sat around drinking it. I remember plenty of time to play in next doors
garden.
My cousin's two children never play outside. They don't have *time*. Both
parenst work so the kids go to a child-minder after school. When they are
picked up it is swimming class or soccer practice or
piano lesson. Then its homework, TV and bed. Weekends are spent getting the
groceries or 'shopping'. They've never played in a stream or made snowmen.
My cousin is contsantly moaning that he has no
*time*. I've been to his house. Both of them have shiny new cars, a
wide-screen TV - the kids have TV and DVD players too (they are 7 and 4).
The kids get new clothes every week.They have every labour
saving device known to man. Most of this stuff they have loans for. So they
both have to work in order to pay for the stuff they bought that was meant
to give them more *time*.
When I sugested to my cousin that he could work less over-time if he wasn't
paying a car loan (and UK interest rates for car loans are often 17-23%) he
wanted to know how he'd get too work? It's a mile
away......
It seems like madness. They are not happy, even with all this stuff they
have. They rarely see family as they are so busy. They have to schedule
appointments to see friends, often weeks in advance.
My cousin once said he envied me staying at home, having friends drop in
unexpectedly for coffee, my long walks with the kids doing nothing in
particuarly. Yet he could not see that it was his desire
for more new shiny stuff that meant that he could do none of those things.
He's over-weight and stressed :-(
Shyrley
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The dog can't do chores when older.
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>From: Bill and Diane <cen46624@...>_________________________________________________________________
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>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Time
>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:41:56 -0500
>
> >
> >
> ><< One mum leaves the house at 6:30am and returns at
> >
> >6:30pm. I say next time buy a dog!! >>
> >
> >Why leave a dog for twelve hours?
> >
>
>This is really what neices and nephews are for--contact with the future
>with a low time investment.
>
>:-) Diane
>
>
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