math!
A. Yates
We are going to start some Miquon math around here. (Mommy is seeing
all the other kids in the group including kids younger than hers doing
addition ect.. and hers can't count past 10) (lol) (Wonder how long
this will last) I'm wondering if anyone has used Miquon, and what did
they think?
Also, have any suggestions for learning to count by two's? Five's?
ect...
Thanks,
Ann
all the other kids in the group including kids younger than hers doing
addition ect.. and hers can't count past 10) (lol) (Wonder how long
this will last) I'm wondering if anyone has used Miquon, and what did
they think?
Also, have any suggestions for learning to count by two's? Five's?
ect...
Thanks,
Ann
metta
on 1/31/00 9:04 AM, A. Yates at hooperck@... wrote:
themselves and problem solve and invent their own algorithms.
didn't ever specifically teach the kids to skip count though... they just
learned on their own. You could make up a song or rhyme to count by.
--
Thea <metta@...>
> We are going to start some Miquon math around here. (Mommy is seeingWe love Miquon... it's very open-ended and encourages kids to think for
> all the other kids in the group including kids younger than hers doing
> addition ect.. and hers can't count past 10) (lol) (Wonder how long
> this will last) I'm wondering if anyone has used Miquon, and what did
> they think?
themselves and problem solve and invent their own algorithms.
> Also, have any suggestions for learning to count by two's? Five's?I hung a hundreds chart up on the wall. It's easy to see the patterns. I
> ect...
didn't ever specifically teach the kids to skip count though... they just
learned on their own. You could make up a song or rhyme to count by.
--
Thea <metta@...>
A. Yates
Forgive me, but what is a hundreds chart? What does it look like?
A
metta wrote:
A
metta wrote:
> From: metta <metta@...>
>
> on 1/31/00 9:04 AM, A. Yates at hooperck@... wrote:
>
> > We are going to start some Miquon math around here. (Mommy is seeing
> > all the other kids in the group including kids younger than hers doing
> > addition ect.. and hers can't count past 10) (lol) (Wonder how long
> > this will last) I'm wondering if anyone has used Miquon, and what did
> > they think?
>
> We love Miquon... it's very open-ended and encourages kids to think for
> themselves and problem solve and invent their own algorithms.
>
> > Also, have any suggestions for learning to count by two's? Five's?
> > ect...
>
> I hung a hundreds chart up on the wall. It's easy to see the patterns. I
> didn't ever specifically teach the kids to skip count though... they just
> learned on their own. You could make up a song or rhyme to count by.
> --
> Thea <metta@...>
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> > Also, have any suggestions for learning to count by two's? Five's?Well, we gave our kid a $5 allowance. They fly with their ability to spend,
> > ect...
combine, and save their money. They learned to count by 2 and 3's while
separating their $5 into piles. <G>
I had a 4 year old who woke up one morning, crawled into my lap all warm and
smelling of sleep. She gave me kisses and then mumbled....6 5's are 30.
She was spending her money in her sleep. <VBG>
LisaKK
metta
on 1/31/00 9:32 AM, A. Yates at hooperck@... wrote:
--
Thea <metta@...>
> Forgive me, but what is a hundreds chart? What does it look like?It's just a chart with the numbers from 1 - 100 arranged in rows of 10.
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Thea <metta@...>
Beth Burnham
Money is the best way and most meaningful way for counting by 2's and 5's
and the clock for counting by 5's also otherwise what else do we need to do
that for? Do your kid's have piggy banks and ever want to buy something can
they afford to with the money they have and of course there is always the
computer. I just downloaded some free shareware from FLX shareware if you
are interested the link is
http://www.eden.com/~flixprod/index.html
Beth
and the clock for counting by 5's also otherwise what else do we need to do
that for? Do your kid's have piggy banks and ever want to buy something can
they afford to with the money they have and of course there is always the
computer. I just downloaded some free shareware from FLX shareware if you
are interested the link is
http://www.eden.com/~flixprod/index.html
Beth
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From: A. Yates <hooperck@...>
To: Unschooling <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 12:04 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] math!
> From: "A. Yates" <hooperck@...>
>
> We are going to start some Miquon math around here. (Mommy is seeing
> all the other kids in the group including kids younger than hers doing
> addition ect.. and hers can't count past 10) (lol) (Wonder how long
> this will last) I'm wondering if anyone has used Miquon, and what did
> they think?
> Also, have any suggestions for learning to count by two's? Five's?
> ect...
> Thanks,
> Ann
>
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metta
on 1/31/00 2:27 PM, Beth Burnham at beth2002@... wrote:
Because our family (kids too) just like to play with math? :-)
--
Thea <metta@...>
> Money is the best way and most meaningful way for counting by 2's and 5'sBecause it's fun? Because math is a beautiful language full of patterns?
> and the clock for counting by 5's also otherwise what else do we need to do
> that for?
Because our family (kids too) just like to play with math? :-)
--
Thea <metta@...>
Beth Burnham
Because it's fun? Because math is a beautiful language full of patterns?
Because our family (kids too) just like to play with math? :-)
--
okay Thea you got me there! I am still too schooled and hate seeing those
report cards and dittoes they look so boring you are right though it can be
fun and full of patterns and rhythm etc. But maybe for some people it will
never be fun and how do you determine what needs to be learned in Math? I
hated it and sometimes still do. I don't want my kids to pick that up my
hatred of Math though so I will need to watch out for that! I used to love
to teach with a number chart we made as a group so we would be able to
record the number of days we were in school and we also did the counting by
2's , 5's,10's etc. counting backwards from a hundred and blasting off into
space.. I guess I could do that as a hschooler too as the kids do love that.
I just am confused about the unschooling aspects and where my philosophy of
not seeing them as an empty vessel needs to integrate into my old school
teacher control freak ways.
I have thought of relying on the series "what every first grader needs to
know" but that is only on days when I want to compare my kids to others and
be sure they score high in the need for useless knowledge skills so they can
become a millionaire or win a full scholarship to Harvard etc. I'd rather
they learn life skills if I have to impose anything on them and I do agree
with you having fun ought to be a life skill! We all need to have more of
it!
Beth
Because our family (kids too) just like to play with math? :-)
--
okay Thea you got me there! I am still too schooled and hate seeing those
report cards and dittoes they look so boring you are right though it can be
fun and full of patterns and rhythm etc. But maybe for some people it will
never be fun and how do you determine what needs to be learned in Math? I
hated it and sometimes still do. I don't want my kids to pick that up my
hatred of Math though so I will need to watch out for that! I used to love
to teach with a number chart we made as a group so we would be able to
record the number of days we were in school and we also did the counting by
2's , 5's,10's etc. counting backwards from a hundred and blasting off into
space.. I guess I could do that as a hschooler too as the kids do love that.
I just am confused about the unschooling aspects and where my philosophy of
not seeing them as an empty vessel needs to integrate into my old school
teacher control freak ways.
I have thought of relying on the series "what every first grader needs to
know" but that is only on days when I want to compare my kids to others and
be sure they score high in the need for useless knowledge skills so they can
become a millionaire or win a full scholarship to Harvard etc. I'd rather
they learn life skills if I have to impose anything on them and I do agree
with you having fun ought to be a life skill! We all need to have more of
it!
Beth
[email protected]
In a message dated 01/31/2000 11:05:25 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
metta@... writes:
<< Because it's fun? Because math is a beautiful language full of patterns?
Because our family (kids too) just like to play with math? :-) >>
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Just because I want to know. Just because knowing is more fun than not
knowing! Just because.
And I don't have to have any other reason beyond those. I don't have to have
any reason.
Hardly anythig that I know is actually useful. But I just enjoy knowing some
neat stuff. I hope people will remember me the way I remember my Dad -- he
read a lot. At 82, he wasn't trying to get a better job or get a degree or
pass a test. He just wanted to know more.
Knowing is fun.
Nance
metta@... writes:
<< Because it's fun? Because math is a beautiful language full of patterns?
Because our family (kids too) just like to play with math? :-) >>
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Just because I want to know. Just because knowing is more fun than not
knowing! Just because.
And I don't have to have any other reason beyond those. I don't have to have
any reason.
Hardly anythig that I know is actually useful. But I just enjoy knowing some
neat stuff. I hope people will remember me the way I remember my Dad -- he
read a lot. At 82, he wasn't trying to get a better job or get a degree or
pass a test. He just wanted to know more.
Knowing is fun.
Nance
Beth Burnham
Nance,
I get your point! It is contagious and all kids naturally want to know
things right so you go with their want or desire to know or your own at any
given moment? The problem I have with rewarding kids for learning isolated
skills the way they do in schools is they don't nec. want to learn that
stuff unless they are coerced even in Waldorf. I guess that is what I was
reacting to and asking about. You do some things for fun and the kids
naturally gravitate to those things you enjoy doing or knowing about as well
as develop their own interests separate from your own?
Beth
I get your point! It is contagious and all kids naturally want to know
things right so you go with their want or desire to know or your own at any
given moment? The problem I have with rewarding kids for learning isolated
skills the way they do in schools is they don't nec. want to learn that
stuff unless they are coerced even in Waldorf. I guess that is what I was
reacting to and asking about. You do some things for fun and the kids
naturally gravitate to those things you enjoy doing or knowing about as well
as develop their own interests separate from your own?
Beth
[email protected]
In a message dated 02/01/2000 5:12:12 PM !!!First Boot!!!, beth2002@...
writes:
<< Nance,
I get your point! It is contagious and all kids naturally want to know
things right so you go with their want or desire to know or your own at any
given moment? The problem I have with rewarding kids for learning isolated
skills the way they do in schools is they don't nec. want to learn that
stuff unless they are coerced even in Waldorf. I guess that i >>
Sorry!!!!!!
I wasn't responding to the whole "should rewards be used or not" discussion.
I was just saying that math is fun. Learning for its own sake is fun.
Sometimes I feel we spend a lot of time justifying the need to learn
something and it is really a waste of time and counterproductive.
Reward or not? I don't know. Sometimes. Mostly not. How's that for vague!
Take care.
Nance
writes:
<< Nance,
I get your point! It is contagious and all kids naturally want to know
things right so you go with their want or desire to know or your own at any
given moment? The problem I have with rewarding kids for learning isolated
skills the way they do in schools is they don't nec. want to learn that
stuff unless they are coerced even in Waldorf. I guess that i >>
Sorry!!!!!!
I wasn't responding to the whole "should rewards be used or not" discussion.
I was just saying that math is fun. Learning for its own sake is fun.
Sometimes I feel we spend a lot of time justifying the need to learn
something and it is really a waste of time and counterproductive.
Reward or not? I don't know. Sometimes. Mostly not. How's that for vague!
Take care.
Nance
Beth Burnham
Sometimes I feel we spend a lot of time justifying the need to learn
something and it is really a waste of time and counterproductive
How's that for vague
Okay since I am new to all this I don't think it a waste of time but
appreciate your input (vague or not). I am curious what a day in your
unschooler's life is like and would love to know details not just vagary, it
sounds like it is a fun place and if you could tell me more I'd be willing
to listen without judging the merits of whether it is worth learning or not!
Thanks
something and it is really a waste of time and counterproductive
How's that for vague
Okay since I am new to all this I don't think it a waste of time but
appreciate your input (vague or not). I am curious what a day in your
unschooler's life is like and would love to know details not just vagary, it
sounds like it is a fun place and if you could tell me more I'd be willing
to listen without judging the merits of whether it is worth learning or not!
Thanks
[email protected]
In a message dated 02/01/2000 6:30:03 PM !!!First Boot!!!, beth2002@...
writes:
<< I am curious what a day in your
unschooler's life is like and would love to know details not just vagary, it
sounds like it is a fun place and if you could tell me more I'd be willing
to listen without judging the merits of whether it is worth learning or not!
would be interested in a blow-by-blow account of a typical day here but I
would be glad to discuss it with you if you think it would help or be
interesting.
Nance
writes:
<< I am curious what a day in your
unschooler's life is like and would love to know details not just vagary, it
sounds like it is a fun place and if you could tell me more I'd be willing
to listen without judging the merits of whether it is worth learning or not!
>>Would you like to email me privately (marbleface@...)? I doubt the list
would be interested in a blow-by-blow account of a typical day here but I
would be glad to discuss it with you if you think it would help or be
interesting.
Nance
A. Yates
Nance, If you don't mind I'd like to hear too. I always like to hear what others
are doing.
Ann
are doing.
Ann