Lynda

Well, as the owner of a butcher shop for 14 years, I can tell you that most
of the "hamburger" comes from Australia in the form of bull meat and that
is mixed with the "scraps" from "good" beef and the whole carcuses of cows
and other not so desireable bovines. Only small retail "mom and pop"
stores actually make their own hamburger. The rest (your big stores like
Safeway, Kroger, etc. and all the hamburger/fastfood joints) get their's
from a big commercial outfit in cryovaced bags already made.

Lynda
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> From: Beth Burnham <beth2002@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] "Beth Burnham" re:chickens and
hamburgers
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2000 12:50 PM
>
From: "Beth Burnham" <beth2002@...>

can you imagine what a burger would cost today if they didn't use the
"cheaper" parts of the cow?!?

I don't know but I am starting to get nauseous! Why do I like the taste so
much given the yuckiness of the whole thing?
Beth

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Aleasa J. Helsinger

The origin of the hamburger is unknown (according to Brittanica). However, it is believed to have been brought over by german immigrants...later to become an american icon!
Just a bit of history: Back in the 50's & 60's when my dad was a short order cook, they would take RIB-EYE STEAKS,run them through a grinder,and add fat because they were so dry....can you imagine what a burger would cost today if they didn't use the "cheaper" parts of the cow?!?

Aleasa

Beth Burnham

can you imagine what a burger would cost today if they didn't use the "cheaper" parts of the cow?!?

I don't know but I am starting to get nauseous! Why do I like the taste so much given the yuckiness of the whole thing?
Beth

Beth Burnham

Lynda,
I guess I should get my meat strictly from the mom and pop farm stores
around here even though it is a lot more money if I can't help myself on
those days when I seem to crave it! Do you still own that butcher shop?
Beth
----- Original Message -----
From: Lynda <lurine@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] "Beth Burnham" re:chickens and hamburgers


> From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
>
> Well, as the owner of a butcher shop for 14 years, I can tell you that
most
> of the "hamburger" comes from Australia in the form of bull meat and that
> is mixed with the "scraps" from "good" beef and the whole carcuses of cows
> and other not so desireable bovines. Only small retail "mom and pop"
> stores actually make their own hamburger. The rest (your big stores like
> Safeway, Kroger, etc. and all the hamburger/fastfood joints) get their's
> from a big commercial outfit in cryovaced bags already made.
>
> Lynda
> ----------
> > From: Beth Burnham <beth2002@...>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] "Beth Burnham" re:chickens and
> hamburgers
> > Date: Monday, January 31, 2000 12:50 PM
> >
> From: "Beth Burnham" <beth2002@...>
>
> can you imagine what a burger would cost today if they didn't use the
> "cheaper" parts of the cow?!?
>
> I don't know but I am starting to get nauseous! Why do I like the taste so
> much given the yuckiness of the whole thing?
> Beth
>
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Tom & Nanci Kuykendall

Actually if you wanted to be consistent, hamburgers would be called
beef-burgers, not cow-burgers. We don't call ham and pork pig-chops, or
whatever.

Nanci K.

Lynda

Sold it to a cousin. There are a couple of big chains that buy from places
like Harris Ranch (organic beef) that only do their own grinding also. We
have a chain out here called Ray's Food Place (CA and Oregon) that sells
Harris Ranch beef and it is no more expensive than Safeway, etc.

Lynda

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> From: "Beth Burnham" <beth2002@...>
>
> Lynda,
> I guess I should get my meat strictly from the mom and pop farm stores
> around here even though it is a lot more money if I can't help myself on
> those days when I seem to crave it! Do you still own that butcher shop?
> Beth

Lynda

Oh geez, I'm probably going to be in BIG trouble for this one. Oh, what
the heck, call it an unschooling learning moment <g> Actually, a good % of
the fast food joint burgers probably are "cow" burgers because that is what
happens to dairy cows when they no longer make their quotas. Now, for the
higher grades of burger that you buy in a super market (not the basic
ground beef), you are quite likely to get "beef" burgers, mostly steer with
a little heifer, a smidge of cow and a lot of bull thrown in. Oh, bad
Lynda! And, since most of the beef that is "grown" in the US is usually a
cross between "beef" breeds and "dairy" breeds, you'd need to call them
"cattle" burgers.

Lynda, ex 4-H, ex-butcher shop owner (14 LONG years) and ex-cattle rancher.
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> From: Tom & Nanci Kuykendall <tn-k4of5@...>
>
> Actually if you wanted to be consistent, hamburgers would be called
> beef-burgers, not cow-burgers. We don't call ham and pork pig-chops, or
> whatever.
>
> Nanci K.
>
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