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We have removed the toilet, sink and tub and some of the subfloor. Jonathan
has embraced the concept of demolition with full enthusiasm. The first time
he knocked out a piece of rotted flooring with a hammer was like the world
opening up for him. He now has his own "tool bucket" and with almost every
trip to Home Depot he picks a new tool for his collection.

It has been interesting to see how the attitude towards children varies among
the different departments at these stores. They receive a lot of patience
and conversation in areas like lighting and flooring but in plumbing they are
barely tolerated. I'm glad the kids are getting a chance to see a woman
learn her way through all this.

Night before last I was researching do-it-yourself plumbing repairs online.
I had discovered an animated map of a typical home plumbing layout when
Jonathan came over. He asked if I would explain what I was looking at which
became a lengthy discussion of hot water heaters, hot and cold supply pipes,
drainage, vents and how the water comes into the house and waste waters goes
out.

When we started this project Jonathan was reluctant to move, we've lived here
for 4 out his 5 years. Now he is so invested in our new home he can hardly
wait to make the final move. Of course, realizing that we WEREN'T going to
leave all of our "stuff" (mainly his toys) behind helped. Poor thing, for
about a week he was under the impression that it would all stay here.

Kris


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Kelli Traaseth

On the whole plumbing front:

We are now learning what havoc cold weather can create to a septic system, I'm so happy! <sarcasm> BLECH!

Lines from a house to a septic system can freeze, then stuff doesn't leave the house. It just goes to one's basement, Yeah! This is what we learned today.

I want to move to somewhere warm!!! WAAAAAA!

Kelli
waiting for a plumber to come and thaw those pipes.


louisaem@... wrote:We have removed the toilet, sink and tub and some of the subfloor. Jonathan
has embraced the concept of demolition with full enthusiasm. The first time
he knocked out a piece of rotted flooring with a hammer was like the world
opening up for him. He now has his own "tool bucket" and with almost every
trip to Home Depot he picks a new tool for his collection.

It has been interesting to see how the attitude towards children varies among
the different departments at these stores. They receive a lot of patience
and conversation in areas like lighting and flooring but in plumbing they are
barely tolerated. I'm glad the kids are getting a chance to see a woman
learn her way through all this.

Night before last I was researching do-it-yourself plumbing repairs online.
I had discovered an animated map of a typical home plumbing layout when
Jonathan came over. He asked if I would explain what I was looking at which
became a lengthy discussion of hot water heaters, hot and cold supply pipes,
drainage, vents and how the water comes into the house and waste waters goes
out.

When we started this project Jonathan was reluctant to move, we've lived here
for 4 out his 5 years. Now he is so invested in our new home he can hardly
wait to make the final move. Of course, realizing that we WEREN'T going to
leave all of our "stuff" (mainly his toys) behind helped. Poor thing, for
about a week he was under the impression that it would all stay here.

Kris


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Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema

Kris and Jonathan,
If you're completely redoing your plumbing, remember to put the 'air
hammer' spacers on the ends of your plumbing lines (if copper/metal) and to
consider looking at an on-demand water heater rather than a tank water
heater. Might save you some serious cash on your water-heating
bills! (and the spacers'll save your ears from compression-hammering in
the pipes!)

Plumbing's cool, isn't it!
Heidi

[email protected]

In a message dated 2/25/03 12:26:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
kellitraas@... writes:


> On the whole plumbing front:
>
> We are now learning what havoc cold weather can create to a septic system,
> I'm so happy! <sarcasm> BLECH!
>
> Lines from a house to a septic system can freeze, then stuff doesn't leave
> the house. It just goes to one's basement, Yeah! This is what we
> learned today.
>
> I want to move to somewhere warm!!! WAAAAAA!
>
> Kelli
> waiting for a plumber to come and thaw those pipes.
>

Our new home is on septic too but we haven't heard of any problems from the
neighbors on that front. However, the pipes from the well are known to
freeze, all the neighbors rally and make sure everyone's hot water heaters
get turned off so the elements don't fry.

Thankfully it doesn't get THAT cold often!


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[email protected]

In a message dated 2/25/03 2:38:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, heidi@...
writes:


> Kris and Jonathan,
> If you're completely redoing your plumbing, remember to put the 'air
> hammer' spacers on the ends of your plumbing lines (if copper/metal) and to
>
> consider looking at an on-demand water heater rather than a tank water
> heater. Might save you some serious cash on your water-heating
> bills! (and the spacers'll save your ears from compression-hammering in
> the pipes!)
>
> Plumbing's cool, isn't it!
> Heidi
>

We have PVC and CPVC, thankfully we discovered that the original
manufacturers had hooked up the HOT water with PVC before we put down the new
floor. We replaced it and should even have the new toilet in today! Woohoo!

We are, in fact, considering an on-demand hot water heater! We will probably
get one as soon as the new appliances are paid off. And, I do think plumbing
is cool! It has been fun piecing the puzzle of elbows, ball cock valves and
connectors from the ground to the faucet.

Kris


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Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema

At 07:19 AM 2/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>We are, in fact, considering an on-demand hot water heater! We will probably

Kris,
When you get one picked out, would you let me know which one you chose and why?
We're going to be in the market for one in the next 6 months/year and would
love an opinion from someone who looked at it all already!
Heidi

[email protected]

In a message dated 2/27/03 1:43:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, heidi@...
writes:


> Kris,
> When you get one picked out, would you let me know which one you chose and
> why?
> We're going to be in the market for one in the next 6 months/year and would
>
> love an opinion from someone who looked at it all already!
> Heidi
>

I sure will, we have only seen the two that Home Depot has to offer. It's
time for some research!

Kris


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