karyn Korins-Boyd

First, to every one who offered advice on books and words to help convince
my dh to give unschooling more then a sideways glance, thank you.
Suprisingly (or maybe not), much of what was said are things I already have
done or read- I guess I am better armed then I thought I was ;) The
Unschooling Handbook has had the esteemed "coffee table spot" since it has
entered the house some 6 months ago. I did manage to get dh to read some of
it, but he tends to fall asleep reading most everything in his hands (left
over reflex from college). On the suggestion og some of the people here, I
am going to order David Gutterson's book- what's it called again? from
Amazon.

So, I will continue what I have been doing, quoting others, reading snipits
from here and there, and keeping the household in a state of interesting
chaos. Most likely, we'll blink one day and the kids will be 18 and 20 and
he will say, "huh? it went by so fast! and we forgot to write a curriculum
and teach them long division!" :)

On another note: we got 26 inches of snow last night. Sage, my older at
4.5, was outside digging a hole into the side of a huge pile of snow at the
end of the driveway. She was trying to make an igloo, and had been working
on this for almost 2 hours without much progress, although she did
eventually realize that she needed to pack the snow in for more stability
and working with an ice "shovel" was more effective then mittens... I went
inside for a coffee refill and was watching her from the window. Some guy
walked up to her, said something and then walked on down the street. Sage
semed upset, so I poked my head out the door. First she said, "he wanted to
say hi" then she told me that he had said that she better not dig anymore
because the snow would fall on her head and she would get trapped in it and
not be able to breathe. She started to cry and came in the house.

She was SO happy making the igloo! I used to make all kinds of forts and
igloos when I was a kid. I was quite peeved that some stranger could
destroy something so wonderful, not the igloo, but the desire to make it.
tomorrow, I will suit up and show her how I used to do it (if I can remember
how) and to protect her from all those people who would squash igloo
building attempts...

Kay







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Jon and Rue Kream

Here's a page that might get her back in the spirit:
http://familyfun.go.com/crafts/buildmodel/feature/famf0100coldhouse/famf
0100coldhouse.html . It's not an igloo, but it's a fun snow fort. We
bought cheap rectangular molds for our igloo making. Nothing's caved in
on us yet. Once she gets it made you can stock it with snowballs that
might accidently hit unsuspecting dream squashers as they walk by :0).
~Rue

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

-----Original Message-----
From: karyn Korins-Boyd [mailto:karynbkb@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: snow day and thanks

I will suit up and show her how I used to do it (if I can remember
how) and to protect her from all those people who would squash igloo
building attempts...




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lonskids247 <[email protected]>

I'm sorry that guy wrecked the fun and made your girl cry.
That guy was right though, as far as the facts. And I'm sure he
really meant well. That does happen and kids have suffocated and died
in forts of that design. I knew a kid in school whose cousin died in
one that collapsed on him. (It's the first place I remember hearing
the phrase "freak accident".) Just one shovel full of snow is dang
heavy. Imagine half a fort's worth of snow on top of a little kid.

Knowing that, we make them in snow piles by digging a hole down in
from the top, sort of volcano style. Then we make little short
tunnels going out of it closer, to the top...usually a very short
sliding tunnel is what they like to make. It's not the same but it's
still really fun! They also dig little cubby holes on the inside
walls for "storing food" and to put jar candles in if they want to.
Painting the outside with colored water is one more way to enjoy
their new home too.


--- In [email protected], "karyn Korins-Boyd"
<karynbkb@h...> wrote:

> On another note: we got 26 inches of snow last night. Sage, my
older at
> 4.5, was outside digging a hole into the side of a huge pile of
snow at the
> end of the driveway. She was trying to make an igloo, and had been
working
> on this for almost 2 hours without much progress, although she did
> eventually realize that she needed to pack the snow in for more
stability
> and working with an ice "shovel" was more effective then mittens...
I went
> inside for a coffee refill and was watching her from the window.
Some guy
> walked up to her, said something and then walked on down the
street. Sage
> semed upset, so I poked my head out the door. First she said, "he
wanted to
> say hi" then she told me that he had said that she better not dig
anymore
> because the snow would fall on her head and she would get trapped
in it and
> not be able to breathe. She started to cry and came in the house.
>
> She was SO happy making the igloo! I used to make all kinds of
forts and
> igloos when I was a kid. I was quite peeved that some stranger
could
> destroy something so wonderful, not the igloo, but the desire to
make it.
> tomorrow, I will suit up and show her how I used to do it (if I can
remember
> how) and to protect her from all those people who would squash
igloo
> building attempts...
>
> Kay
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:30:52 -0500 "karyn Korins-Boyd"
<karynbkb@...> writes:
> I went inside for a coffee refill and was watching her from the
window.
> Some guy walked up to her, said something and then walked on down the
>street. Sage semed upset, so I poked my head out the door. First she
said, >"he wanted to say hi" then she told me that he had said that
she better not dig
> anymore because the snow would fall on her head and she would get
trapped >in it and not be able to breathe. She started to cry and came
in the house.
> She was SO happy making the igloo! I used to make all kinds of
> forts and igloos when I was a kid. I was quite peeved that some
stranger
> could destroy something so wonderful, not the igloo, but the desire to

> make it.

If there was an adult nearby, then this man was out of line. But a mound
of snow caving in and suffocating a small child is a very real concern,
and IMO the man was just being thoughtful, seeing a young child doing
something potentially dangerous without an adult near, most likely not
knowing that you were watching out the window.

Last summer my dd's 7yo neighbor friend was playing out in a newly tilled
farmers field after a few days of rain. They often play adventure games
and stuff, like pretending to be stuck and such, and when I looked out at
the field (about 900 feet away) dd's friend was waving her arms in the
air. I wasn't sure what to think, and I surely didn't want to disturb
them in the midst of their imaginary game, but I wasn't comfortable with
what I saw. At the risk of destroying their game, I ran over to see what
was up. Thank God I did, because Jace was up to her waist in mud, the dog
was stuck, and my dd was trying to pull her out only to get herself
stuck. I got everybody out, lost a shoe, and learned an important lesson
about mud. If I wasn't there, I surely would have hoped that an adult
passing by would have aided them, or better yet, said, "Hi girls, you
know that mud gets like quicksand after a day of rain. Be careful."
before it happened.
Hindsight is 20/20.
Wende

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Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema

>bought cheap rectangular molds for our igloo making. Nothing's caved in

You can use bread pans for the same thing.
HeidiWD

lonskids247 <[email protected]>

And for the really big cheap skates (like me!), boxes from baby wipes
work pretty dang good too! ;o)

--- In [email protected], Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
<heidi@d...> wrote:
>
> >bought cheap rectangular molds for our igloo making. Nothing's
caved in
>
> You can use bread pans for the same thing.
> HeidiWD