Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] My dear Grandpa.
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In a message dated 2/5/03 12:40:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
love-it-here@... writes:
probably not uncommon) but when he died, Grandma fell to her knees and
begged God to take her too. She REALLY, wanted to die before Grandpa. I
think Grandpa held on for months because he knew how his death with affect
Grandma. Its sad.. but, its also wonderful to remember Grandpa and know,
truely, sincerely KNOW that he was the nearest to perfect man that he could
have possibly been. I know when folks die, all the accolades and testimony
come out professing how great the person was ( and most folks are).. But,
with my Grandpa...well, he REALLY was one of a kind. Of all the people I
know, I cant think of anyone as "good" and "real" as my Grandpa. My moms a
close second though :-) She inherited Grandpas wonderful spirit and kind,
gentle ways.. and his sense of fun too. Mom also got a bit of Grandmas
"contrariness".. lol.but hey, she allowed,, womens perogative.
I've said this before.. If I could be half the mother that my mother is...
well, I'de be a damn good mother. One thing that mom said during the
"family viewing" .. she was crying and hugged me and my sisters.. she said..
"he was the best daddy in the world. . the VERY best daddy anyone could dream
of.. I just wish everyone could have a daddy like mine" My sister
said..."your the best momma in the world, we're lucky to have you" Mom
said.. "well, anything good in me came from my daddy". I know my Momma is
good and wonderful in her own right, but, no one can deny what influence a
parent has on a child. Some of it "modeling' and some of it genetic.
I see a lot of family estrangement on this list. A lot of complaining and
pain from the past. I know that a lot of folks came this way because of
wanting to be "better" than thier parents. Lots of parents have failed
thier children.. mistreated them.. disrespected them.. and those children
have ended up "here" looking for a better way to raise thier children.
I've been extremely fortunate and blessed to have had a wonderful family that
I can not find fault with.. Even if they did make me wash the dishes and come
home by midnight :-) And, Ive got a spanking or two in my life. I never
doubted for one minute ANYTHING my parents did was out of love.
Teresa
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love-it-here@... writes:
> Teresa,Thanks Wende...it is hard on Grandma.. I know this is pretty intense ( and
> I'm sorry to hear about your Grandpa. That has to be especially hard on
> your Grandmother. Wow! 67 years! What an inspiration! Take care of
> yourself.
>
> Wende
>
probably not uncommon) but when he died, Grandma fell to her knees and
begged God to take her too. She REALLY, wanted to die before Grandpa. I
think Grandpa held on for months because he knew how his death with affect
Grandma. Its sad.. but, its also wonderful to remember Grandpa and know,
truely, sincerely KNOW that he was the nearest to perfect man that he could
have possibly been. I know when folks die, all the accolades and testimony
come out professing how great the person was ( and most folks are).. But,
with my Grandpa...well, he REALLY was one of a kind. Of all the people I
know, I cant think of anyone as "good" and "real" as my Grandpa. My moms a
close second though :-) She inherited Grandpas wonderful spirit and kind,
gentle ways.. and his sense of fun too. Mom also got a bit of Grandmas
"contrariness".. lol.but hey, she allowed,, womens perogative.
I've said this before.. If I could be half the mother that my mother is...
well, I'de be a damn good mother. One thing that mom said during the
"family viewing" .. she was crying and hugged me and my sisters.. she said..
"he was the best daddy in the world. . the VERY best daddy anyone could dream
of.. I just wish everyone could have a daddy like mine" My sister
said..."your the best momma in the world, we're lucky to have you" Mom
said.. "well, anything good in me came from my daddy". I know my Momma is
good and wonderful in her own right, but, no one can deny what influence a
parent has on a child. Some of it "modeling' and some of it genetic.
I see a lot of family estrangement on this list. A lot of complaining and
pain from the past. I know that a lot of folks came this way because of
wanting to be "better" than thier parents. Lots of parents have failed
thier children.. mistreated them.. disrespected them.. and those children
have ended up "here" looking for a better way to raise thier children.
I've been extremely fortunate and blessed to have had a wonderful family that
I can not find fault with.. Even if they did make me wash the dishes and come
home by midnight :-) And, Ive got a spanking or two in my life. I never
doubted for one minute ANYTHING my parents did was out of love.
Teresa
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:26:25 EST grlynbl@... writes:
Grandpas >wonderful spirit and kind, gentle ways.. and his sense of fun
too. Mom also >got a bit of Grandmas "contrariness".. lol.but hey,
she allowed,, womens >perogative.
You are so fortunate to have experienced these fruits. They sound like
wonderful people.
greatly affected my childhood. But the older I get, the more I realize
that they tried their hardest within their capacity to be good parents.
These babies don't come with an instruction book that says "Do this and
you are guaranteed success". I don't want to cause the same pains to my
children, that were caused me. While I don't hold any animosity towards
them now, I don't want to duplicate the same patterns. You and your
children are so blessed to have such wonderful role models and
inspirations in your life, even if it is for what seems to be a short
time.
Wende
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> Thanks Wende...it is hard on Grandma.. I know this is pretty intenseknees
> ( and probably not uncommon) but when he died, Grandma fell to her
> and begged God to take her too.I have seen this happen, and it is heart wrenching.
>Of all the people I know, I cant think of anyone as "good" and "real"as my >Grandpa. My moms a close second though :-) She inherited
Grandpas >wonderful spirit and kind, gentle ways.. and his sense of fun
too. Mom also >got a bit of Grandmas "contrariness".. lol.but hey,
she allowed,, womens >perogative.
You are so fortunate to have experienced these fruits. They sound like
wonderful people.
> I see a lot of family estrangement on this list. A lot ofthis way
> complaining and pain from the past. I know that a lot of folks came
> because of wanting to be "better" than their parents.Yes, and I am one of those. My parents most assuredly had "issues" that
greatly affected my childhood. But the older I get, the more I realize
that they tried their hardest within their capacity to be good parents.
These babies don't come with an instruction book that says "Do this and
you are guaranteed success". I don't want to cause the same pains to my
children, that were caused me. While I don't hold any animosity towards
them now, I don't want to duplicate the same patterns. You and your
children are so blessed to have such wonderful role models and
inspirations in your life, even if it is for what seems to be a short
time.
Wende
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In a message dated 2/5/03 2:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
love-it-here@... writes:
was ALL a bed of roses... I thought after I wrote that post.. about "
eveything they done for us was out of love" and yeah, thats true.. what they
done FOR US... But, my dad was (is) an alcholic and that certainly wasnt a
good role model. He is a great man and his character and good qualities far
outweigh his flaws.. ANd my mom is so great, she really helpled balance out
the "yucky stuff" with dads alcoholism. Dad was never abusive or "lazy".. he
always worked hard and provided for his family. He just liked to drink and
have a good time. ( still, not acceptable, to the extent that he did it) In
that respect, I vowed to never drink in excess nor to marry a man that
remotely had any of the flaws that my dad did. My husband does not drink,
gamble, hunt and fish excessively.. and lots of the other things that I felt
my dad did to the detriment of his family. But, my dad also has qualities
that my husband lacks. Still, all in all, I do count myself and my family
blessed.
Teresa
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love-it-here@... writes:
> While I don't hold any animosity towardsYes, we are blessed.. ..But, I also dont want to give the impression that it
> them now, I don't want to duplicate the same patterns. You and your
> children are so blessed to have such wonderful role models and
> inspirations in your life, even if it is for what seems to be a short
>
was ALL a bed of roses... I thought after I wrote that post.. about "
eveything they done for us was out of love" and yeah, thats true.. what they
done FOR US... But, my dad was (is) an alcholic and that certainly wasnt a
good role model. He is a great man and his character and good qualities far
outweigh his flaws.. ANd my mom is so great, she really helpled balance out
the "yucky stuff" with dads alcoholism. Dad was never abusive or "lazy".. he
always worked hard and provided for his family. He just liked to drink and
have a good time. ( still, not acceptable, to the extent that he did it) In
that respect, I vowed to never drink in excess nor to marry a man that
remotely had any of the flaws that my dad did. My husband does not drink,
gamble, hunt and fish excessively.. and lots of the other things that I felt
my dad did to the detriment of his family. But, my dad also has qualities
that my husband lacks. Still, all in all, I do count myself and my family
blessed.
Teresa
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