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[I have that book and really love it, the Zinn/Zen thing.]

In a message dated 2/2/03 9:01:36 AM, homemama@... writes:

<< Practice seeing your children as perfect just the way they are. See if
you can stay mindful of their sovereignty from moment to moment >>

That's blasphemy for Christians.

I guess now the list will heat up (when the Christians get back from church
<g>).

There was this apple (or pomegranate) and this tree (of life or knowledge or
something) and this snake (or serpent or something) and this woman, and
that's why childbirth hurts and why children are filled with sin nature.

No sovereignty for them! BAD boys. BAD girls.

For anyone needing more reading on a Sunday, there is something very scary I
found yesterday but you'll need to go and read it there, where it's
overwhelming in its length and tone. Don't go if you don't like to be scared.

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/dobson/general.htm

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/sof.htm