Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] professional advice, was homeopathy
Alan & Brenda Leonard
1/17/03 23:37:
I'm a string teacher. I can't just chat about violin stuff as a parent; I
have a compelling interest in seeing people be happy with what they do
musically. So I do give advice, but I try to make sure people realize where
it's coming from. Because every teacher is different, I hope that another
teacher's ideas might be useful, particually since I understand the concept
of unschooling. Not every teacher will, obviously.
However, I generally only respond "professionally" to people talking or
asking about violin playing. I don't think I've ever recommended to someone
that their child would be happier playing violin than clarinet, or that a
child's problems could be dealt with by playing violin.
I think that's the difference, Yol. If someone asks for advice about
homeopathy, I think you should be the first to respond. You *are* a
professional, and hence your advice is professional advice. You advertise
yourself that way on every email, in your tag line. But many people are
looking for parenting/unschooling advice on their problems, not medical. If
you have personal advice on the subject ("I was treated for this problem as
a teen, and homeopathy helped"), maybe it would be seen as personal advice.
But I definitly think there's a difference.
brenda
> Because in my perception of things, I am not giving professional advice. IReally? Because when I talk about violin stuff, I try to make it clear that
> think *expertise* is a tone and an attitude. I think this applies also to
> someone who's a violin teacher or a professional violinist speaking about
> violin stuff. I doubt anyone takes it as *professional advice*.
I'm a string teacher. I can't just chat about violin stuff as a parent; I
have a compelling interest in seeing people be happy with what they do
musically. So I do give advice, but I try to make sure people realize where
it's coming from. Because every teacher is different, I hope that another
teacher's ideas might be useful, particually since I understand the concept
of unschooling. Not every teacher will, obviously.
However, I generally only respond "professionally" to people talking or
asking about violin playing. I don't think I've ever recommended to someone
that their child would be happier playing violin than clarinet, or that a
child's problems could be dealt with by playing violin.
I think that's the difference, Yol. If someone asks for advice about
homeopathy, I think you should be the first to respond. You *are* a
professional, and hence your advice is professional advice. You advertise
yourself that way on every email, in your tag line. But many people are
looking for parenting/unschooling advice on their problems, not medical. If
you have personal advice on the subject ("I was treated for this problem as
a teen, and homeopathy helped"), maybe it would be seen as personal advice.
But I definitly think there's a difference.
brenda
bluelotus
<< I think that's the difference, Yol. If someone asks for advice about
homeopathy, I think you should be the first to respond. You *are* a
professional, and hence your advice is professional advice. You advertise
yourself that way on every email, in your tag line. But many people are
looking for parenting/unschooling advice on their problems, not medical. If
you have personal advice on the subject ("I was treated for this problem as
a teen, and homeopathy helped"), maybe it would be seen as personal advice.
But I definitly think there's a difference. >>
I get your point. I just wonder how can someone ask about homeopathy if they don't know what homeopathy can help with? Most people haven't even heard about homeopathy, ever. Others think it's good for colds and flus, because that's what they were told at their health food store. Everybody knows what a violin is...
Anyway, I won't post anymore, ok?
Yol
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homeopathy, I think you should be the first to respond. You *are* a
professional, and hence your advice is professional advice. You advertise
yourself that way on every email, in your tag line. But many people are
looking for parenting/unschooling advice on their problems, not medical. If
you have personal advice on the subject ("I was treated for this problem as
a teen, and homeopathy helped"), maybe it would be seen as personal advice.
But I definitly think there's a difference. >>
I get your point. I just wonder how can someone ask about homeopathy if they don't know what homeopathy can help with? Most people haven't even heard about homeopathy, ever. Others think it's good for colds and flus, because that's what they were told at their health food store. Everybody knows what a violin is...
Anyway, I won't post anymore, ok?
Yol
--
Blue Lotus Therapeutics -
Ayurveda, Homeopathy, Yoga & Therapeutic Massage
http://www.bluelotustherapeutics.com
Dhyanyoga Center of NC -
Meditation - Kundalini Maha Yoga
http://www.dyc-nc.org
**********************************
When nothing is done, nothing is left undone. The world is ruled by
letting things take their course. It cannot be ruled by interfering.
-- Tao Te Ching
**********************************
kayb85 <[email protected]>
If I'm on a general parenting site and someone is discussing a
problem they're having with making their kids do all of their
homework, or making their kids get up in the morning to go to school
on time, I will mention unschooling whether they ask to be told about
unschooling or not.
Even schools will sometimes see that a child isn't participating like
he normally would and might realize that it's because his eyesight is
declining and he needs glasses. As an unschooling parent, I need to
take the whole child into account. So if a child is having a fear or
anxiety or social interaction problem, then that is going to affect
how he learns. One thing I could do is try to see if something in
his surroundings is affecting him and try to talk it through with
him. Another thing I could do is to take him to my homeopath to see
if she thinks it is an emotional imbalance that a homeopathic remedy
can cure.
I look at the whole person. Everything fits together and overlaps,
affecting other things so much that it's really hard to
compartmentalize things into an education category, a medical
category, a religion category. It's all part of life and all of it
affects each other.
Sheila
problem they're having with making their kids do all of their
homework, or making their kids get up in the morning to go to school
on time, I will mention unschooling whether they ask to be told about
unschooling or not.
Even schools will sometimes see that a child isn't participating like
he normally would and might realize that it's because his eyesight is
declining and he needs glasses. As an unschooling parent, I need to
take the whole child into account. So if a child is having a fear or
anxiety or social interaction problem, then that is going to affect
how he learns. One thing I could do is try to see if something in
his surroundings is affecting him and try to talk it through with
him. Another thing I could do is to take him to my homeopath to see
if she thinks it is an emotional imbalance that a homeopathic remedy
can cure.
I look at the whole person. Everything fits together and overlaps,
affecting other things so much that it's really hard to
compartmentalize things into an education category, a medical
category, a religion category. It's all part of life and all of it
affects each other.
Sheila
> I think that's the difference, Yol. If someone asks for adviceabout
> homeopathy, I think you should be the first to respond. You *are* aadvertise
> professional, and hence your advice is professional advice. You
> yourself that way on every email, in your tag line. But manypeople are
> looking for parenting/unschooling advice on their problems, notmedical. If
> you have personal advice on the subject ("I was treated for thisproblem as
> a teen, and homeopathy helped"), maybe it would be seen as personaladvice.
> But I definitly think there's a difference.
>
> brenda
Fetteroll
on 1/17/03 9:31 PM, bluelotus at bluelotus@... wrote:
recognizing that a little bit of intriguing information that piques
someone's interest is much more effective than a lot of information that no
one has asked for.
How can kids ask about Shakespeare?
If we think it's important we need to make sure they have opportunities to
be aware of it in ways that are fun or intriguing and preferably short and
occasional at first. They will show their interest eventually. Or not.
One way to make sure they *don't* ask about Shakespeare is to turn a
conversation to him everyday or every other day.
Joyce
> I just wonder how can someone ask about homeopathy if they don't know whatBy trusting people's natural curiosity and their capacity for learning. By
> homeopathy can help with? Most people haven't even heard about homeopathy,
> ever. Others think it's good for colds and flus, because that's what they were
> told at their health food store. Everybody knows what a violin is...
recognizing that a little bit of intriguing information that piques
someone's interest is much more effective than a lot of information that no
one has asked for.
How can kids ask about Shakespeare?
If we think it's important we need to make sure they have opportunities to
be aware of it in ways that are fun or intriguing and preferably short and
occasional at first. They will show their interest eventually. Or not.
One way to make sure they *don't* ask about Shakespeare is to turn a
conversation to him everyday or every other day.
Joyce
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In a message dated 1/18/03 6:36:22 AM, fetteroll@... writes:
<< One way to make sure they *don't* ask about Shakespeare is to turn a
conversation to him everyday or every other day. >>
There are lots of REALLY great websites about Shakespeare and if people
seemed to need that, or asked for it, we could provide those websites, some
recommendations of videos, and off they would go to learn on their own!
I love Shakespeare. I'm happy with the way my kids are familiar with several
of the plays and can listen to the language without frustration. When I was
their age (any of their ages) I was clueless (although I was immersed in the
King James Bible so the language wasn't out of depth). I could talk about
Shakespeare every day, and in phases sometimes I do. But not here. Just
when it comes up naturally.
Our Much Ado About Nothing videotape is missing. We must have loaned it out
and can't remember where. I hope whoever has it remembers where they
borrowed it!
Sandra
<< One way to make sure they *don't* ask about Shakespeare is to turn a
conversation to him everyday or every other day. >>
There are lots of REALLY great websites about Shakespeare and if people
seemed to need that, or asked for it, we could provide those websites, some
recommendations of videos, and off they would go to learn on their own!
I love Shakespeare. I'm happy with the way my kids are familiar with several
of the plays and can listen to the language without frustration. When I was
their age (any of their ages) I was clueless (although I was immersed in the
King James Bible so the language wasn't out of depth). I could talk about
Shakespeare every day, and in phases sometimes I do. But not here. Just
when it comes up naturally.
Our Much Ado About Nothing videotape is missing. We must have loaned it out
and can't remember where. I hope whoever has it remembers where they
borrowed it!
Sandra