Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 2829
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In a message dated 1/9/2003 11:36:23 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
in its prime have neither the heart nor the inclination to try and resurrect
it....the task is too daunting for the few of us who remain on the AOL
"boards," and we're too busy having fun with our children.
But, if our numbers were larger, if some old friends returned....<G>
Becky who still lives in that Ghost Town. You'll recognize me: I'm the old
codger eating 2 year old beans out of a can, chasing tumbleweeds down the
street, hoping for a miracle.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are
to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
--Theodore Roosevelt
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[email protected] writes:
> There's an AOL unschoolingWhy it is still there remains a mystery to me. Those of us who remember it
> board (sad little thing, but still there), t
in its prime have neither the heart nor the inclination to try and resurrect
it....the task is too daunting for the few of us who remain on the AOL
"boards," and we're too busy having fun with our children.
But, if our numbers were larger, if some old friends returned....<G>
Becky who still lives in that Ghost Town. You'll recognize me: I'm the old
codger eating 2 year old beans out of a can, chasing tumbleweeds down the
street, hoping for a miracle.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are
to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
--Theodore Roosevelt
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Helen Hegener
At 12:52 PM -0500 1/9/03, Beckyleach@... wrote:
Helen, remembering when... <g>
>Becky who still lives in that Ghost Town. You'll recognize me: I'm the oldHey Becky! Good to see you here, old friend!
>codger eating 2 year old beans out of a can, chasing tumbleweeds down the
>street, hoping for a miracle.
Helen, remembering when... <g>
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/9/2003 11:36:35 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Mine have to do their chores or they will have privileges taken away. Failure
to do that can also be grounds to contract the work out to other siblings and
they would have to pay them out of their allowance. I learn that one from the
famiy at timberdoddle.
They have a chore list or a set of things that they must do everyday.
We cannot afford for someone to slack off and not pull their weight around
here.
There are 9 people in this house and will be 10 in August.
What they fail not to do affects others in the house.
Energy does not flow right when things are cluttered.
Besides, I feel that it would be unfair for my hubby to come home and do
their jobs after he has been away for 6 days.
Kim
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[email protected] writes:
> Many no longer force their children to do chores.Hummm..really......
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Mine have to do their chores or they will have privileges taken away. Failure
to do that can also be grounds to contract the work out to other siblings and
they would have to pay them out of their allowance. I learn that one from the
famiy at timberdoddle.
They have a chore list or a set of things that they must do everyday.
We cannot afford for someone to slack off and not pull their weight around
here.
There are 9 people in this house and will be 10 in August.
What they fail not to do affects others in the house.
Energy does not flow right when things are cluttered.
Besides, I feel that it would be unfair for my hubby to come home and do
their jobs after he has been away for 6 days.
Kim
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Fetteroll
on 1/10/03 7:47 PM, lurningathome@... at lurningathome@... wrote:
Children *have to* breath. If the consequences were natural you wouldn't
have to impose them. You don't need to impose consequences on not breathing
do you? ;-)
We *choose* to make them do chores.
When we think in terms of forcing children being the only solution to a
problem then we'll assume we "have to" or they "have to" because "we have no
choice".
But that's not true. It's someting we choose to do.
That does't mean the other solutions are easy to find in this world where
making children do things is the norm. But when we value our chldren's
feelings above the cleanliness of the house, then we're motivated to find
ways that work better.
I'll admit to being coercive about cleaning when someone is coming to visit.
At those times my daughter is motivated by doing as little as she can get
away with. (I don't blame her!) It also makes her reluctant to help clean
when I ask her to help.
But now that she's 11, when I ask (and she can say no and do it when it's
convenient for her), and especially when I'm right there with her doing it,
or when she sees something she feels she's able to help with, she does. (As
long as it isn't about dealing with all the drawing and writing papers she
generates which even I find overwhelming ;-)
I don't have suggestions for 9 kids but I know Cheryl Seelhoff had at least
that many (some are now grown) and Kathy/Sofar8 (if anyone remembers her
from AOL) exceeded her screen name I'm pretty sure ;-) and neither one of
them was coercive parents. I think the message board for Cheryl's Gentle
Spirit magazine is still up. Non-coercive parenting (NCP) is one of the
things they talk about there.
Joyce
> Mine have to do their choresWhy do they have to? What will happen to your chldren if they don't?
Children *have to* breath. If the consequences were natural you wouldn't
have to impose them. You don't need to impose consequences on not breathing
do you? ;-)
We *choose* to make them do chores.
When we think in terms of forcing children being the only solution to a
problem then we'll assume we "have to" or they "have to" because "we have no
choice".
But that's not true. It's someting we choose to do.
That does't mean the other solutions are easy to find in this world where
making children do things is the norm. But when we value our chldren's
feelings above the cleanliness of the house, then we're motivated to find
ways that work better.
I'll admit to being coercive about cleaning when someone is coming to visit.
At those times my daughter is motivated by doing as little as she can get
away with. (I don't blame her!) It also makes her reluctant to help clean
when I ask her to help.
But now that she's 11, when I ask (and she can say no and do it when it's
convenient for her), and especially when I'm right there with her doing it,
or when she sees something she feels she's able to help with, she does. (As
long as it isn't about dealing with all the drawing and writing papers she
generates which even I find overwhelming ;-)
I don't have suggestions for 9 kids but I know Cheryl Seelhoff had at least
that many (some are now grown) and Kathy/Sofar8 (if anyone remembers her
from AOL) exceeded her screen name I'm pretty sure ;-) and neither one of
them was coercive parents. I think the message board for Cheryl's Gentle
Spirit magazine is still up. Non-coercive parenting (NCP) is one of the
things they talk about there.
Joyce
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In a message dated 1/11/03 6:46:01 AM, fetteroll@... writes:
<< I don't have suggestions for 9 kids but I know Cheryl Seelhoff had at least
that many (some are now grown) and Kathy/Sofar8 (if anyone remembers her
from AOL) exceeded her screen name I'm pretty sure ;-) and neither one of
them was coercive parents. I think the message board for Cheryl's Gentle
Spirit magazine is still up. Non-coercive parenting (NCP) is one of the
things they talk about there. >>
Kathy's family's website:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hollow/1093/unschooling.html
<< I don't have suggestions for 9 kids but I know Cheryl Seelhoff had at least
that many (some are now grown) and Kathy/Sofar8 (if anyone remembers her
from AOL) exceeded her screen name I'm pretty sure ;-) and neither one of
them was coercive parents. I think the message board for Cheryl's Gentle
Spirit magazine is still up. Non-coercive parenting (NCP) is one of the
things they talk about there. >>
Kathy's family's website:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hollow/1093/unschooling.html