Unschooling potty-training and weaning
Pete Schult
You read stories every day about unschoolers who don't learn to read 'til
they're 9 or 11 and then become avid readers, so you "shouldn't worry if
your child isn't reading at 6". We've basically been taking an unschooling
approach to both potty training and weaning, but I'm getting a bit anxious
since our daughter, at 3.25 years, shows only occasional interest in
either. Does anyone have words of encouragement, especially success stories
of late potty training/weaning?
--Pete
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they're 9 or 11 and then become avid readers, so you "shouldn't worry if
your child isn't reading at 6". We've basically been taking an unschooling
approach to both potty training and weaning, but I'm getting a bit anxious
since our daughter, at 3.25 years, shows only occasional interest in
either. Does anyone have words of encouragement, especially success stories
of late potty training/weaning?
--Pete
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Linda Wyatt
> From: Pete Schult <schult@...>What would you consider a success story?
> We've basically been taking an unschooling
> approach to both potty training and weaning, but I'm getting a bit anxious
> since our daughter, at 3.25 years, shows only occasional interest in
> either. Does anyone have words of encouragement, especially success stories
> of late potty training/weaning?
It happens, eventually. Honest.
My oldest decided to start using a toilet two weeks before his 4th
birthday. No accidents ever once he decided.
The other two, I don't remember. Younger with toilet training, older with
weaning.
Weaning ages varied widely. That eventually happens, too.
(And hey Pete, you're apparently near me!)
Linda
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Hi Pete
Look around and though you will find adults who can't read, I doubt you'll be
able to find any adults who still nurse / drink from a bottle or wear nappies
(diapers). It'll happen. It is frustrating, and worrying, but it will happen.
Carol
in New Zealand
Look around and though you will find adults who can't read, I doubt you'll be
able to find any adults who still nurse / drink from a bottle or wear nappies
(diapers). It'll happen. It is frustrating, and worrying, but it will happen.
Carol
in New Zealand
> We've basically been taking an unschooling
> approach to both potty training and weaning, but I'm getting a bit anxious
> since our daughter, at 3.25 years, shows only occasional interest in
> either. Does anyone have words of encouragement, especially success stories
> of late potty training/weaning?
>
> --Pete
>
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In a message dated 12/20/1999 3:57:32 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
schult@... writes:
<< We've basically been taking an unschooling
approach to both potty training and weaning, but I'm getting a bit anxious
since our daughter, at 3.25 years, shows only occasional interest in
either. Does anyone have words of encouragement, especially success stories
of late potty training/weaning?
--Pete
timetables. My son, born first, nursed for 5 weeks, went to a bottle and
then to a cup shortly after 1, was out of diapers by about 1 1/2. I do
remember he was not in diapers when my daughter was born 18 months after him.
My daughter -- a completely different story -- in so many ways and these are
just a couple of the ways she is different. She nursed for 9 months. Was in
diapers until she was a little over 4 yo. She drank from her bottle until
she was about 4 too. She still (at 5) wets the bed; my son never has.
I don't think I have been THAT different of a mom to them. They are just
definitely individuals.
Good luck. Wishing you patience -- this can all be very trying.
Nance
P.S. Most of the above was before I had ever heard of unschooling. It's
just who and how they are.
schult@... writes:
<< We've basically been taking an unschooling
approach to both potty training and weaning, but I'm getting a bit anxious
since our daughter, at 3.25 years, shows only occasional interest in
either. Does anyone have words of encouragement, especially success stories
of late potty training/weaning?
--Pete
>>All encouraging news here. Two children -- two completely different
timetables. My son, born first, nursed for 5 weeks, went to a bottle and
then to a cup shortly after 1, was out of diapers by about 1 1/2. I do
remember he was not in diapers when my daughter was born 18 months after him.
My daughter -- a completely different story -- in so many ways and these are
just a couple of the ways she is different. She nursed for 9 months. Was in
diapers until she was a little over 4 yo. She drank from her bottle until
she was about 4 too. She still (at 5) wets the bed; my son never has.
I don't think I have been THAT different of a mom to them. They are just
definitely individuals.
Good luck. Wishing you patience -- this can all be very trying.
Nance
P.S. Most of the above was before I had ever heard of unschooling. It's
just who and how they are.
McBryan Alignan
Pete Schult wrote:
to wear them. (Quelle horreur!) Well, we had some poops and pees here
and there for a while (yes, we have some beautiful carpets) - no big
deal - I went to the toilet, Jean Luc did - and Claire does now.
There was no pressure or timeframe - just gentle suggestions and
respect. Diapers are weird... How would you like it to have poop
all squashed up in there? Perhaps it may be really odd to go poop
*not* in the diaper - on the ground squatting - or in the toilet -
if you have never pooped or peed that way...
Claire starting going to the toilet and pooping out of a diaper at some
point - I really don't remember when, it just came to be. She hardly
ever had clothes on - and even now, she is naked often at home...I
think diapers interfere with a lot - not only peeing and pooping, but
feeling, sexuality, moving freely, and more.
As for breastfeeing, Claire, 3.5, is breastfeeding when feels sleepy at
night before we all head to bead and in the morning.
Sometimes she asks during the say, particularly if she is feeling tired.
I do try to breastfeed as when she wishes, like this afternoon, but
I am also up front and real with Claire in sharing my feelings with
Claire if I really don't feel like breastfeeding, but, for the
the most part, I am available to her when she wishes - - - always taking
into consideration Claire and that one moment she chooses to breastfee,
*no matter where we are*. I consider her feelings and her wishes.
There is a very special closeness. The frequency of breastfeeding comes
and goes - like a big spiral - looping back again. Sometimes
more breastfeeding - sometimes less - sometimes none.
There is much importance in mother being available. The very special
love that comes through longterm breastfeeding, shines through a
lifetime.
Very best wishes,
Diane McBryan Alignan
>I think it is important to not put diapers on a child to doesn't want
> From: Pete Schult <schult@...>
>
> You read stories every day about unschoolers who don't learn to read 'til
> they're 9 or 11 and then become avid readers, so you "shouldn't worry if
> your child isn't reading at 6". We've basically been taking an unschooling
> approach to both potty training and weaning, but I'm getting a bit anxious
> since our daughter, at 3.25 years, shows only occasional interest in
> either. Does anyone have words of encouragement, especially success stories
> of late potty training/weaning?
>
> --Pete
to wear them. (Quelle horreur!) Well, we had some poops and pees here
and there for a while (yes, we have some beautiful carpets) - no big
deal - I went to the toilet, Jean Luc did - and Claire does now.
There was no pressure or timeframe - just gentle suggestions and
respect. Diapers are weird... How would you like it to have poop
all squashed up in there? Perhaps it may be really odd to go poop
*not* in the diaper - on the ground squatting - or in the toilet -
if you have never pooped or peed that way...
Claire starting going to the toilet and pooping out of a diaper at some
point - I really don't remember when, it just came to be. She hardly
ever had clothes on - and even now, she is naked often at home...I
think diapers interfere with a lot - not only peeing and pooping, but
feeling, sexuality, moving freely, and more.
As for breastfeeing, Claire, 3.5, is breastfeeding when feels sleepy at
night before we all head to bead and in the morning.
Sometimes she asks during the say, particularly if she is feeling tired.
I do try to breastfeed as when she wishes, like this afternoon, but
I am also up front and real with Claire in sharing my feelings with
Claire if I really don't feel like breastfeeding, but, for the
the most part, I am available to her when she wishes - - - always taking
into consideration Claire and that one moment she chooses to breastfee,
*no matter where we are*. I consider her feelings and her wishes.
There is a very special closeness. The frequency of breastfeeding comes
and goes - like a big spiral - looping back again. Sometimes
more breastfeeding - sometimes less - sometimes none.
There is much importance in mother being available. The very special
love that comes through longterm breastfeeding, shines through a
lifetime.
Very best wishes,
Diane McBryan Alignan
sara woodall
> success storiesYes, to both. It will happen; just hang in there.
> of late potty training/weaning?
>
Sara
dawn
> > approach to both potty training and weaning, but I'm getting a bit anxiousmy younger son was over 3 when he toilet learned (as was my older son, who
> > since our daughter, at 3.25 years, shows only occasional interest in
> > either. Does anyone have words of encouragement, especially success stories
> > of late potty training/weaning?
was closer to 3.5). The younger one learned in a day when he
needed/wanted to (basically, my dh had the checkbook and I only had 4$
cash on me, all cloth diapers were dirty, out of disposables, so he was
given the choice to either wait until the little boy I babysat for came
over and use on of his diapers or go to the second hand store and get some
undies.....he opted for the undies). He rarely had an accident after
that.
As for weaning, he still nurses avidly at nearly 4.5 and it is *very*
important to him. Since nursing certainly contributed to his older
brother's ability to beat E. Coli 0157 at 5.5 (not only nursing at the
time, but have wonderful gut integrity due to long time nursing and a
strong immune system), I'm in no hurry for him to wean if he isn't ready,
so I have no words of advice there.
dawn h-s
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>>>From: Pete Schult <schult@...>training and weaning, but I'm getting a bit anxious since our daughter,
>>>We've basically been taking an unschooling approach to both potty
at 3.25 years, shows only occasional interest in either. Does anyone have
words of encouragement, especially success stories of late potty
training/weaning?>>>
Boy do I have tons to say on both of these! It is the very lucky child
who gets to breastfeed longer than our American norm. They do wean.
They really do! "Mothering Your Breastfeeding Toddler" is a helpful
book. I wrote a bit more below about our nursing/weaning experience.
(Remember that long term breastfeeding has health benefits for mother
too) Don't let unbelievers influence you to force your dd to wean before
she is ready!
As for potty training (I so dislike that term), I'm a failure there. Ha
ha. Both my dd used pull ups after age 4. I've tried bribing, ignoring
the issue, and things in between. I have a hard time with poop/pee
outside of the bathroom. Sorry, but it is my preference to NOT have it
on the carpet or the furniture. That said, I strive to be matter of fact
and not make the kids feel *bad* when it does happen.
I think disposable super absorbent bottom covers are part of the problem
and would probably do it different if I could start over. But...I do
believe that using the toilet is one of those things that all humans want
to master, eventually learning how it is done in their culture. At
http://www.wearsthebaby.com there is a discussion on this. I will look
for the exact link and send it in.
If you care to read on, following is a bit on our nursing/weaning.
I made first dd wean after the birthday. Bribed her with a toy she
wanted if she'd stop that day. I still regret that method. After one
day with the toy, she wanted to take it back and have milky again. Whole
story of her nursing/weaning is long and contains aspects I'm proud of
and those I regret. Hopefully I learned something! She wasn't using the
toilet reliably until around 4 as well, and only stopped night wetting
recently (just turned 7).
2nd dd was 4 in August & nurses anywhere from zero to 6 times in 24
hours. She is definitely *weaning*. (Remember it is a process!!) I am
determined to let her nurse until she is finished. I could write pages
on this, I'm sure. It is hardest when I'm around people who feel she is
too old to be nursing. (Which is nearly everybody!) But as I age I find
it easier to not mind so much what others think. Ho Ho Ho. She is not
100% on the toilet either.
Mary Ellen
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Pete Schult
>From: Linda Wyatt <hilinda@...>Your Son's story for one. It's nice to have confirmation that kids do
>
>What would you consider a success story?
>
eventually toilet learn (thanks Dawn <dawn@...>; that's a much more
unschooling way of putting it) even if it's after 3 years old. Weaning is
less of an issue since it seems to still be a mutually good thing for both
my daughter and wife (well, it's not a BAD thing for my wife :-) ), but
even so it's good to hear that others have late weaners too.
--Pete
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dawn
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Pete Schult wrote:
would be able to: The all do eventually wean.
And my addendum for our experience: It may not be at 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or
6, but they do eventually wean and you will look back on it fondly. I'm
pretty sure my older son is weaned. Never thought he'd wean from me to
decaf coffee and chess with his father in the mornings;) but he has;
however, he has said he might want to nurse again when the next baby
arrives since he doesn't need to nurse but "nothing tastes quite as
wonderful".
But they do wean, although he and I had some frustrating times, especially
nursing during 3 pregnancies and tandeming for over 4 years, I'm happy
that he was able to end it in his own time and without any struggles or
regrets. Furthermore, we moved so naturally into a different parenting
dance (as opposed to the "oh, here, let's nurse and see if that fixes it")
that I had no struggles either.
d h-s
> my daughter and wife (well, it's not a BAD thing for my wife :-) ), butI'm pretty excited that I can finally say this, because I never thought I
> even so it's good to hear that others have late weaners too.
would be able to: The all do eventually wean.
And my addendum for our experience: It may not be at 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or
6, but they do eventually wean and you will look back on it fondly. I'm
pretty sure my older son is weaned. Never thought he'd wean from me to
decaf coffee and chess with his father in the mornings;) but he has;
however, he has said he might want to nurse again when the next baby
arrives since he doesn't need to nurse but "nothing tastes quite as
wonderful".
But they do wean, although he and I had some frustrating times, especially
nursing during 3 pregnancies and tandeming for over 4 years, I'm happy
that he was able to end it in his own time and without any struggles or
regrets. Furthermore, we moved so naturally into a different parenting
dance (as opposed to the "oh, here, let's nurse and see if that fixes it")
that I had no struggles either.
d h-s
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#1 dd trained 2 wks before her 3rd bday. I had just gotten her this really
cute little mermaid costume and said why dont' you try going potty on the
toilet before you try this on. I never said you can't wear this costume if
youdont' use the toilet, just kept repeating it a few times and she did. It
worked because she was ready. I had not really encouraged her much before
that alhtough I had two in diapers for almost two years at that point and was
tandem nursing. She weaned at over three, and would have gone much longer if
I hadn't done partial weaning during pregnancy and infancy of my second
child. #2 boy trained at 4 yrs 2 months with often negative comments from
his father : ( probably made him delay even longer! Both he and my dd were
what I would call completed toilet trained within a two week time frame, on
their own with very few accidents after that. #2 son weaned at 2 yr 4
months, which was 5 weeks before #3 was born. Again I did some partial
weaning during pregnancy and was prepared to tandem nurse again. He was no
longer interested. He too would have nursed longer I am sure. #3 son is 2
yrs 9 months, absolutely no sign of using the toilet or weaning and no sign
of mommy getting pregnant before this child has outlived his need for
nursing!
Kathy
cute little mermaid costume and said why dont' you try going potty on the
toilet before you try this on. I never said you can't wear this costume if
youdont' use the toilet, just kept repeating it a few times and she did. It
worked because she was ready. I had not really encouraged her much before
that alhtough I had two in diapers for almost two years at that point and was
tandem nursing. She weaned at over three, and would have gone much longer if
I hadn't done partial weaning during pregnancy and infancy of my second
child. #2 boy trained at 4 yrs 2 months with often negative comments from
his father : ( probably made him delay even longer! Both he and my dd were
what I would call completed toilet trained within a two week time frame, on
their own with very few accidents after that. #2 son weaned at 2 yr 4
months, which was 5 weeks before #3 was born. Again I did some partial
weaning during pregnancy and was prepared to tandem nurse again. He was no
longer interested. He too would have nursed longer I am sure. #3 son is 2
yrs 9 months, absolutely no sign of using the toilet or weaning and no sign
of mommy getting pregnant before this child has outlived his need for
nursing!
Kathy
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My kids were all on the late side of potty-training. Actually, not my
first one; he was 2 1/2 yrs old. The others were all past 3. The method
that worked pretty well for us was to take a day when we didn't have anywhere
else to go, have the house plenty warm, and put a long t-shirt on our child
without any diaper or anything else underneath. They seem to feel a major
difference and don't feel comfortable just going with nothing there. The
biggest trick is getting them to go the first time in the toilet. When that
happened, they were excited and yes, we did kind of cheer (not totally
internal rewards, I know). After that, they wanted to keep going. We had
them spend the whole day with the long t-shirt (adult size) and it seemed
that by the next day, it was reinforced pretty well. It works well to be
able to go as many days as possible before having to go somewhere. When that
point finally comes, I think it's better to put on thin underwear so that it
doesn't feel like a diaper.
I guess this isn't a true unschooling approach but it was an approach
that waited until they were plenty old enough to understand and it didn't
involve getting mad at them or dragging it out for monthes with a lot of
accidents. I have noticed that when that happens, the parents seem to get
mad whether they intend to or not because they get so tired of monthes of
accidents. I also never forced it if a child said he didn't want to. We
just stopped and tried it again a month or more later. Anyway, I hope this
helps. Whatever you decide to do, you know that sometime before their
adulthood, children will learn to use a toilet! Take care...
Lucy
first one; he was 2 1/2 yrs old. The others were all past 3. The method
that worked pretty well for us was to take a day when we didn't have anywhere
else to go, have the house plenty warm, and put a long t-shirt on our child
without any diaper or anything else underneath. They seem to feel a major
difference and don't feel comfortable just going with nothing there. The
biggest trick is getting them to go the first time in the toilet. When that
happened, they were excited and yes, we did kind of cheer (not totally
internal rewards, I know). After that, they wanted to keep going. We had
them spend the whole day with the long t-shirt (adult size) and it seemed
that by the next day, it was reinforced pretty well. It works well to be
able to go as many days as possible before having to go somewhere. When that
point finally comes, I think it's better to put on thin underwear so that it
doesn't feel like a diaper.
I guess this isn't a true unschooling approach but it was an approach
that waited until they were plenty old enough to understand and it didn't
involve getting mad at them or dragging it out for monthes with a lot of
accidents. I have noticed that when that happens, the parents seem to get
mad whether they intend to or not because they get so tired of monthes of
accidents. I also never forced it if a child said he didn't want to. We
just stopped and tried it again a month or more later. Anyway, I hope this
helps. Whatever you decide to do, you know that sometime before their
adulthood, children will learn to use a toilet! Take care...
Lucy
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> From: LASaliger@...I think this is one of the keys and maybe one reason why children of the
>The method
> that worked pretty well for us was to take a day when we didn't have
> anywhere else to go,
past seem to have been trained earlier. They were usually around home
more.
>The biggest trick is getting them to go the first time in the toilet.I've read a lot about the supposed benefits of nonchalance in this
> When that
> happened, they were excited and yes, we did kind of cheer (not
> totally
> internal rewards, I know).
endeavor, but we get excited about all kinds of other firsts for our
children. I don't see anything wrong with letting them know we are proud
of their ability to use the toilet.
Mary Ellen
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Well, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Can someone tell me exactly
what is wrong with early toilet training if it is done right? By right, I
would guess the way that we did it back in the dark ages. It wasn't a big
deal, you were in the bathroom for whatever reason and you plotted the
kidlet on the toilet and asked if they thought they might want to [insert
name of choice] in the big potty. You folded towels and put them away, put
on your make-up, cleaned the sink, whatever. If they did, cheering, if
they didn't, no big deal and a o.k., maybe next time. No trauma, no force,
no big deal. Of course, the boys were the easiest as they liked to watch
it splash, kind of a monkey see, monkey do thing with daddy or uncle or big
brother. Again, no big deal. As long as you caught them before the
terrible 2's it wasn't any big deal. They love making the toilet flush and
watching the water swirl and gurgle, too.
Sure, some folks got carried away and it became a competition but you are
going to see that in any area of child rearing. And, all in all, it is
healthier for the kids to be out of the diapers.
Lynda
----------
what is wrong with early toilet training if it is done right? By right, I
would guess the way that we did it back in the dark ages. It wasn't a big
deal, you were in the bathroom for whatever reason and you plotted the
kidlet on the toilet and asked if they thought they might want to [insert
name of choice] in the big potty. You folded towels and put them away, put
on your make-up, cleaned the sink, whatever. If they did, cheering, if
they didn't, no big deal and a o.k., maybe next time. No trauma, no force,
no big deal. Of course, the boys were the easiest as they liked to watch
it splash, kind of a monkey see, monkey do thing with daddy or uncle or big
brother. Again, no big deal. As long as you caught them before the
terrible 2's it wasn't any big deal. They love making the toilet flush and
watching the water swirl and gurgle, too.
Sure, some folks got carried away and it became a competition but you are
going to see that in any area of child rearing. And, all in all, it is
healthier for the kids to be out of the diapers.
Lynda
----------
> From: megates@...
>
> > From: LASaliger@...
> >The method
> > that worked pretty well for us was to take a day when we didn't have
> > anywhere else to go,
>
> I think this is one of the keys and maybe one reason why children of the
> past seem to have been trained earlier. They were usually around home
> more.
>
> >The biggest trick is getting them to go the first time in the toilet.
> > When that
> > happened, they were excited and yes, we did kind of cheer (not
> > totally
> > internal rewards, I know).
>
> I've read a lot about the supposed benefits of nonchalance in this
> endeavor, but we get excited about all kinds of other firsts for our
> children. I don't see anything wrong with letting them know we are proud
> of their ability to use the toilet.
> Mary Ellen
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>
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on 12/27/99 6:53 PM, Lynda at lurine@... wrote:
should be potty trained earlier than those in cloth, for the sake of the
landfills. Ha!
--
Thea
metta@...
> And, all in all, it isYou think? I'm not so sure, but I do think that kids in disposable diapers
> healthier for the kids to be out of the diapers.
should be potty trained earlier than those in cloth, for the sake of the
landfills. Ha!
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In a message dated 12/28/1999 6:12:28 AM !!!First Boot!!!, lurine@...
writes:
<< ell, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Can someone tell me exactly
what is wrong with early toilet training if it is done right? >>
Probably nothing.
Nance
writes:
<< ell, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Can someone tell me exactly
what is wrong with early toilet training if it is done right? >>
Probably nothing.
Nance
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Well, cloth diapers require lots of water for cleaning. (But so does
flushing!) Either way, we humans use a lot of resources. The planet
might be better off without us.
Seriously though, I agree with Lynda that it's good for kid's bottoms to
be out of diapers and an important thing is to be kind to the child, no
matter how or when you do it.
Did I send in the link for the essay about "Elimination Training"? There
is a book by that name and a big part of it is having babies and toddlers
without diapers most of the time. The parent learns to recognize when
the child is about to eliminate and holds them over a potty. I haven't
read the book, but the guy who wrote the essay did. I'm done having
children, but I thought it was an interesting idea. Besides, what do
people in poor countries do?
One more comment - I've used both cloth and disposable. I think
disposables make it WAY easier for the parent to delay "potty training"
(still don't like that term!).
Mary Ellen
Breastfeeding is Y2K Compliant
flushing!) Either way, we humans use a lot of resources. The planet
might be better off without us.
Seriously though, I agree with Lynda that it's good for kid's bottoms to
be out of diapers and an important thing is to be kind to the child, no
matter how or when you do it.
Did I send in the link for the essay about "Elimination Training"? There
is a book by that name and a big part of it is having babies and toddlers
without diapers most of the time. The parent learns to recognize when
the child is about to eliminate and holds them over a potty. I haven't
read the book, but the guy who wrote the essay did. I'm done having
children, but I thought it was an interesting idea. Besides, what do
people in poor countries do?
One more comment - I've used both cloth and disposable. I think
disposables make it WAY easier for the parent to delay "potty training"
(still don't like that term!).
Mary Ellen
Breastfeeding is Y2K Compliant
> From: metta <metta@...>
>
> on 12/27/99 6:53 PM, Lynda at lurine@... wrote:
>
> > And, all in all, it is
> > healthier for the kids to be out of the diapers.
>
> You think? I'm not so sure, but I do think that kids in disposable
> diapers
> should be potty trained earlier than those in cloth, for the sake of
> the
> landfills. Ha!
> --
> Thea
> metta@...
Lynda
I worked in hospitals and for docs and UTI's in little boys and girls and
vaginal infections in little girls were almost unheard of when there was
the big race on to get them out of diapers at an early age. I remember the
docs ranting on and on about it because the mothers didn't want to hear it.
Also, you have to remember that diseases are spread from feces and urine
and the ones that end up in landfills are loaded the countryside with
different diseases. I wish they had never invented the dratted things!
Being "older than dirt," I remember the first disposables and you flushed
the centers of them and then just had that liner and plastic outside. I
don't know why they stopped doing that.
Lynda
----------
vaginal infections in little girls were almost unheard of when there was
the big race on to get them out of diapers at an early age. I remember the
docs ranting on and on about it because the mothers didn't want to hear it.
Also, you have to remember that diseases are spread from feces and urine
and the ones that end up in landfills are loaded the countryside with
different diseases. I wish they had never invented the dratted things!
Being "older than dirt," I remember the first disposables and you flushed
the centers of them and then just had that liner and plastic outside. I
don't know why they stopped doing that.
Lynda
----------
> From: metta <metta@...>diapers
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unschooling potty-training and weaning
> Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 11:38 PM
>
> From: metta <metta@...>
>
> on 12/27/99 6:53 PM, Lynda at lurine@... wrote:
>
> > And, all in all, it is
> > healthier for the kids to be out of the diapers.
>
> You think? I'm not so sure, but I do think that kids in disposable
> should be potty trained earlier than those in cloth, for the sake of the
> landfills. Ha!
> --
> Thea
> metta@...
>
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My Mom tells of using disposables on a cross country car trip in the late
50's or early 60's. She said they were just flat rectangles that you
used safety pins with.
Mary Ellen
Breastfeeding is Y2K Compliant
From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
I remember the first disposables and you flushed
the centers of them and then just had that liner and plastic outside.
50's or early 60's. She said they were just flat rectangles that you
used safety pins with.
Mary Ellen
Breastfeeding is Y2K Compliant
From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
I remember the first disposables and you flushed
the centers of them and then just had that liner and plastic outside.
Carol D. Wickwire
LOL Lynda! "Older than dirt" huh? That's perty old!! I love it!
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