Rachel Ann

Or perhaps it is better to call it at your own pace reading? I am really
starting to dislike, intensely, such terms as early and late. Can you
imagine if we did this with music and trampoline jumping?

Anyway, by most standards, my child is considered a late reader; she just
couldn't get it, got frustrated, mom pushed to much (admission), etc. etc.
Finally back off, and within the last few months her reading has taken off.
She found books she likes to read (Half-magic, and Getting to Know guides.)
and is reading at least on level with others her age. I wouldn't be
surprised if she surpasses others her age in a few months.

This is a sleep deprived response to those whose children read late, but
still aren't into it. Maybe they will be next year, maybe they won't be
next year... the same is true of early readers. As long as they eventually
can read well enough to do what they want to do, there is nothing imho, to
worry about.

My parents are now firm supporters of unschooling...I had trouble explaining
it but apparently what I gave them to read did a good enough job and now
they are full of enthusasim, bragging to my sister about how well it works..


go figure!

be well,
Rachel Ann




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In a message dated 1/5/2003 2:30:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
hindar@... writes:

My parents are now firm supporters of unschooling...I had trouble explaining
> it but apparently what I gave them to read did a good enough job and now
> they are full of enthusasim, bragging to my sister about how well it
> works..

Congratulations, Rachel Ann! This is one of the hurdles many unschoolers
never clear! <g>

~Kelly


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HERE HERE, if others would just discover this, there would be a lot less
frustration for both parent and child. BUT__ it is harder that one thinks to
be patient and not push. It is certainly worth it in the end. When the
child is 16 it will make no difference when they read, BUT it will make a lot
of difference how they perceive their intellect.


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In a message dated 1/5/03 12:30:55 PM, hindar@... writes:

<< Can you
imagine if we did this with music and trampoline jumping? >>

I was a very early musician but am profoundly disabled at trampolining!!

Holly's reading The Boxcar Children. Woohoo!

<< When the
child is 16 it will make no difference when they read, BUT it will make a lot
of difference how they perceive their intellect.>>

My famous example of Liam McClure (http://sandradodd.com/reading and it's
also in the library at www.unschooling.com) is a good one of a family that
somehow managed to keep their kids confident even though their reading came
late. Liam can do some physical things as well as grown men who work really
hard and spend a lot of money on coaches to do. (Well, at 18 Liam's getting
to grown-man stage, but I mean he has for years.) And I think that helped.
And he knew his dad had read late and with much difficulty, but his dad reads
well now, and is a manly ex-marine, fireman and bicycle racer. So both his pa
rents told him "It will come," and "At least you're not in school having
people bug you about it all the time." And they gave him real
responsibilities and asked his opinion about things. They treated him like a
valuable person, and he was and IS a valuable person. And now he reads.

Sandra

Sandra

Helen Hegener

At 2:39 PM -0500 1/5/03, TheFadels@... wrote:
>HERE HERE, if others would just discover this, there would be a lot less
>frustration for both parent and child. BUT__ it is harder that one thinks to
>be patient and not push. It is certainly worth it in the end. When the
>child is 16 it will make no difference when they read, BUT it will make a lot
>of difference how they perceive their intellect.

I'm a little puzzled about the intent here. Are you saying one should
push their kids to read so their perception of their own intellect at
age 16 will somehow be better? Or did I miss something?

Helen

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My intent was tao point out that if you push your child and he or she faills,
it might create a self concept of failure, however if you just let it happen
the child will feel right on target and never doubt his sucess


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Tia Leschke

> Or perhaps it is better to call it at your own pace reading? I am really
> starting to dislike, intensely, such terms as early and late. Can you
> imagine if we did this with music and trampoline jumping?

You're right. I usually at least use the word later rather than late, but I
forgot this time. At your own pace is a bit of a mouthful. <g>
>
> This is a sleep deprived response to those whose children read late, but
> still aren't into it. Maybe they will be next year, maybe they won't be
> next year... the same is true of early readers. As long as they
eventually
> can read well enough to do what they want to do, there is nothing imho, to
> worry about.

This is also true, and most of the time I'm fine with it. The other times
are why I'm on this list. %^ )
Tia

Tia Leschke

> HERE HERE, if others would just discover this, there would be a lot
less
> frustration for both parent and child. BUT__ it is harder that one thinks
to
> be patient and not push. It is certainly worth it in the end. When the
> child is 16 it will make no difference when they read, BUT it will make a
lot
> of difference how they perceive their intellect.

Yes, and this is where I let my son down when I pushed reading at age 12.
Between my pushing and his school friends telling him he's stupid . . .
Tia

Tia Leschke

> At 2:39 PM -0500 1/5/03, TheFadels@... wrote:
> >HERE HERE, if others would just discover this, there would be a lot
less
> >frustration for both parent and child. BUT__ it is harder that one
thinks to
> >be patient and not push. It is certainly worth it in the end. When the
> >child is 16 it will make no difference when they read, BUT it will make a
lot
> >of difference how they perceive their intellect.
>
> I'm a little puzzled about the intent here. Are you saying one should
> push their kids to read so their perception of their own intellect at
> age 16 will somehow be better? Or did I miss something?

I thought she was saying that it's awfully tempting to push, but that if you
don't, they'll feel better about themselves in the end.
Tia