bluelotus

> I thought a piece of a post I got on another list may be appropriate
> here. It's from Benjamin Franklin's Biography


<<The only purpose I can think of for posting this at this time is as a
suggestion that some people need to take Ben's advice and do as he did.

That might be appropriate on a list where people are asking for help
changing how they relate to others. But it's not. It's an unschooling list
were people come to talk about and get help understanding unschooling.>>

Yes, Joyce, I know I am always talking about things that don't seem *appropriate* to this list, but I thought Ben's words would be appropriate for some, if not most of us (aside the fact that I think it's a cool quote anyways), before we start again on the road to arguing, labeling, pointing fingers or insulting.

<<That might be seen as a suggestion that people should change. I hope it's
seen as a suggestion on how to get off this negative path and back on the
path to discussing unschooling.>>

There was no suggestion whatsoever. It made me think when I read it, and I thought it would be thought provoking for other people as well. Sorry if it's not about unschooling per se. To me, unschooling also encompasses an internal process where I *unschool* myself from my preconceived ideas and fixed notions, or repetitive responses to others and life. Perhaps I should go into lurk mode now.

Yol

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kayb85 <[email protected]>

Perhaps I should go into lurk mode now.
>
> Yol

Yol,
I REALLY enjoy reading your posts about unschooling from a
homeopathic point of view. A lot of good stuff would be missing from
the list if you went into lurk mode now. :)
Sheila

Fetteroll

on 1/4/03 11:32 PM, bluelotus at bluelotus@... wrote:

>> <<That might be seen as a suggestion that people should change. I hope it's
>> seen as a suggestion on how to get off this negative path and back on the
>> path to discussing unschooling.>>
>
> There was no suggestion whatsoever.

I was talking about my suggestion that might help people let go of the idea
of power to control others.

> It made me think when I read it, and I
> thought it would be thought provoking for other people as well.

When the thoughts provoked can seem to be promoting the position of one side
over the other, then it's going to be perceived as just plain provoking.

And I'm not suggesting that was the intent. Just talking about people's
reactions to their *perception* of our intent. That's perhaps an even bigger
factor in relations because people can't know what our intent is, only what
it appears to be.

> Sorry if it's
> not about unschooling per se.

There's lots on this list that isn't about unschooling per se. The
objections are to anything that interfers with people discussing and
understanding unschooling. Talking about the list and how people should be
and post is one of those things.

> To me, unschooling also encompasses an internal
> process where I *unschool* myself from my preconceived ideas and fixed
> notions, or repetitive responses to others and life.

And I think a lot of people could benefit from those ideas! I think this way
of being comes across beautifully in how you post and what you post about in
the course of your posting about unschooling and life in general so I hope
you don't go into lurk mode.

If we think some people would be helped by our understanding of the world, I
think the best way to help them is to just *be* who we are :-) We should
*be* and respond in the ways that we think is most helpful. And the people
who are ready for that understanding will be drawn to the expression of our
particular understanding.

But we have to allow people to set their own goals for their being and
follow the paths that they think are best for them right now.

Joyce

Tia Leschke

> Yol,
> I REALLY enjoy reading your posts about unschooling from a
> homeopathic point of view. A lot of good stuff would be missing from
> the list if you went into lurk mode now. :)

I agree.
Tia