Parting thoughts
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/2/03 11:59:03 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Spoonfeeding is for babies. Removing
the antagonistic people from your list (if you continue to do so) will
surely
make the list and what you stand for irrelevant. >>
Trying to make a list be what it isn't and ignoring the wishes of everyone at
the list is immature.
Coming back on and complaining about it months after it happened and
everything has been smoothed over is exceptionally questionable. What is the
motive?
I met Ned in real life in October, I did Tai Chi with his wife Luz, I enjoyed
everything they had to say and they didn't seem especially heartbroken that
he wasn't on this list. In fact he made a big joke about it in one of his
talks, it was quite funny.
Ned is still around....he has his own list if you like what he is saying.
There shouldn't be a problem.
Ren
"The world's much smaller than you think. Made up of two kinds of
people--simple and complicated.....The simple ones are contented. The
complicated ones aren't."
"Unschooling support at pensacolaunschoolers.com
[email protected] writes:
<< Spoonfeeding is for babies. Removing
the antagonistic people from your list (if you continue to do so) will
surely
make the list and what you stand for irrelevant. >>
Trying to make a list be what it isn't and ignoring the wishes of everyone at
the list is immature.
Coming back on and complaining about it months after it happened and
everything has been smoothed over is exceptionally questionable. What is the
motive?
I met Ned in real life in October, I did Tai Chi with his wife Luz, I enjoyed
everything they had to say and they didn't seem especially heartbroken that
he wasn't on this list. In fact he made a big joke about it in one of his
talks, it was quite funny.
Ned is still around....he has his own list if you like what he is saying.
There shouldn't be a problem.
Ren
"The world's much smaller than you think. Made up of two kinds of
people--simple and complicated.....The simple ones are contented. The
complicated ones aren't."
"Unschooling support at pensacolaunschoolers.com
Mike Ebbers <[email protected]>
--- In [email protected], starsuncloud@c... wrote:
I've wondered for several months now why the subject lines of your
posts do not contain the "Re:". This normally indicates a new topic,
but even your replies to old topics don't have the "Re:".
Is this your browser doing that, or do you delete the "re" for a
reason? Just wondering, since it's a new year...
Mike
>Ren,
> Ren
> "The world's much smaller than you think. Made up of two kinds of
> people--simple and complicated.....The simple ones are contented.
I've wondered for several months now why the subject lines of your
posts do not contain the "Re:". This normally indicates a new topic,
but even your replies to old topics don't have the "Re:".
Is this your browser doing that, or do you delete the "re" for a
reason? Just wondering, since it's a new year...
Mike
Rachel Ann
someone check my reality here for me will you?
My son is in Yeshiva high school...his wish. He is not doing so well in
history. Okay, we are trying to figure out why. Anyway, his teacher calls
me up today, irate...why? Something my son did in class...Yes? He handed in
his homework with the words purplesomething or other and icehand written in
the midst of his answers. Why? Because he wanted to see if the teacher was
reading his paper.
IRATE???? I mean, comeon! I guess I would get a bit annoyed, but wouldn't
you think you would want to know why the kid thought you weren't reading his
homework? And is it really something that you need to call the parent about?
Sheesh, no wonder he dislikes the teachers so much. It was a stupid thing
to do but I don't think it is incredibly bad, and as a teacher it would
indicate to me a sense of distrust....I would want to know why he felt I
wasn't reading his work....
Oh well,
Rachel Ann
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, January 02, 2003 17:34:11
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Parting thoughts
My son is in Yeshiva high school...his wish. He is not doing so well in
history. Okay, we are trying to figure out why. Anyway, his teacher calls
me up today, irate...why? Something my son did in class...Yes? He handed in
his homework with the words purplesomething or other and icehand written in
the midst of his answers. Why? Because he wanted to see if the teacher was
reading his paper.
IRATE???? I mean, comeon! I guess I would get a bit annoyed, but wouldn't
you think you would want to know why the kid thought you weren't reading his
homework? And is it really something that you need to call the parent about?
Sheesh, no wonder he dislikes the teachers so much. It was a stupid thing
to do but I don't think it is incredibly bad, and as a teacher it would
indicate to me a sense of distrust....I would want to know why he felt I
wasn't reading his work....
Oh well,
Rachel Ann
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, January 02, 2003 17:34:11
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Parting thoughts
--- In [email protected], starsuncloud@c... wrote:
>
> Ren
> "The world's much smaller than you think. Made up of two kinds of
> people--simple and complicated.....The simple ones are contented.
Ren,
I've wondered for several months now why the subject lines of your
posts do not contain the "Re:". This normally indicates a new topic,
but even your replies to old topics don't have the "Re:".
Is this your browser doing that, or do you delete the "re" for a
reason? Just wondering, since it's a new year...
Mike
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[email protected]
In a message dated 1/2/03 3:53:48 PM, hindar@... writes:
<< It was a stupid thing
to do but I don't think it is incredibly bad, and as a teacher it would
indicate to me a sense of distrust....I would want to know why he felt I
wasn't reading his work.... >>
She could have played along, and used those words in her notes back.
She could have asked if icehand was really a compound word.
She could have circled it and written "verb?" or "fragment."
She blew her chance to have a meaningful exchange and prove she was
communicating with him.
Sandra
<< It was a stupid thing
to do but I don't think it is incredibly bad, and as a teacher it would
indicate to me a sense of distrust....I would want to know why he felt I
wasn't reading his work.... >>
She could have played along, and used those words in her notes back.
She could have asked if icehand was really a compound word.
She could have circled it and written "verb?" or "fragment."
She blew her chance to have a meaningful exchange and prove she was
communicating with him.
Sandra
Rachel Ann
My thoughts exactly...(btw, it is a he, not a she...)
Get this, he was going to make a copy of the paper to SHOW me the additions.
I told him it was okay, I didn't need to see it. I believed him.
Anyway, I told Meir to apologize to him, just to save any chance he has of
getting a passing grade.
<sigh>
I actually think it is kind of funny... And he could have had a great time
commenting on the inaccurate bits of information.
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, January 02, 2003 20:10:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Parting thoughts
In a message dated 1/2/03 3:53:48 PM, hindar@... writes:
<< It was a stupid thing
to do but I don't think it is incredibly bad, and as a teacher it would
indicate to me a sense of distrust....I would want to know why he felt I
wasn't reading his work.... >>
She could have played along, and used those words in her notes back.
She could have asked if icehand was really a compound word.
She could have circled it and written "verb?" or "fragment."
She blew her chance to have a meaningful exchange and prove she was
communicating with him.
Sandra
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Get this, he was going to make a copy of the paper to SHOW me the additions.
I told him it was okay, I didn't need to see it. I believed him.
Anyway, I told Meir to apologize to him, just to save any chance he has of
getting a passing grade.
<sigh>
I actually think it is kind of funny... And he could have had a great time
commenting on the inaccurate bits of information.
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, January 02, 2003 20:10:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Parting thoughts
In a message dated 1/2/03 3:53:48 PM, hindar@... writes:
<< It was a stupid thing
to do but I don't think it is incredibly bad, and as a teacher it would
indicate to me a sense of distrust....I would want to know why he felt I
wasn't reading his work.... >>
She could have played along, and used those words in her notes back.
She could have asked if icehand was really a compound word.
She could have circled it and written "verb?" or "fragment."
She blew her chance to have a meaningful exchange and prove she was
communicating with him.
Sandra
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Annette Marshall
This reminds me of a time that my dd wrote this
beautiful poem, turned it in and got it back with a
giant red D written across the top. I asked why and it
was because she wrote it in pencil and didn't double
space. I asked her if this discouraged her and she
said, "It just makes it so you don't want to try." So
sad. And she knows she has the freedom to return to
home schooling anytime she wants to, but because of
all of her girlfriends she decides to stay in a
mediocre atmosphere to further her education.
Again...so sad.
My one comfort is that she continues to walk to the
beat of her own drummer despite the herd mentality of
a group school setting.
Annette
PS: BTW. I was mad too about the insensitivity and the
single mindedness that this teacher showed.
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beautiful poem, turned it in and got it back with a
giant red D written across the top. I asked why and it
was because she wrote it in pencil and didn't double
space. I asked her if this discouraged her and she
said, "It just makes it so you don't want to try." So
sad. And she knows she has the freedom to return to
home schooling anytime she wants to, but because of
all of her girlfriends she decides to stay in a
mediocre atmosphere to further her education.
Again...so sad.
My one comfort is that she continues to walk to the
beat of her own drummer despite the herd mentality of
a group school setting.
Annette
PS: BTW. I was mad too about the insensitivity and the
single mindedness that this teacher showed.
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In a message dated 1/2/03 7:25:42 PM, momuv4sweetiepies@... writes:
<< but because of
all of her girlfriends she decides to stay in a
mediocre atmosphere to further her education. >>
She's staying there to be with her friends.
Her learning doesn't have to happen there.
<< but because of
all of her girlfriends she decides to stay in a
mediocre atmosphere to further her education. >>
She's staying there to be with her friends.
Her learning doesn't have to happen there.
Have a Nice Day!
I was thinking the same thing. My son has all but decided he is going to public school for high school next year for exactly the same reason.
I have to keep reminding myself that whatever happens at school really doesn't much matter. Contrary to what they'd like us to believe, school does not rule our lives even if he does decide to be a student there.
Kristen
I have to keep reminding myself that whatever happens at school really doesn't much matter. Contrary to what they'd like us to believe, school does not rule our lives even if he does decide to be a student there.
Kristen
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From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Parting thoughts
In a message dated 1/2/03 7:25:42 PM, momuv4sweetiepies@... writes:
<< but because of
all of her girlfriends she decides to stay in a
mediocre atmosphere to further her education. >>
She's staying there to be with her friends.
Her learning doesn't have to happen there.
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[email protected]
In a message dated 1/3/03 3:23:59 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Is this your browser doing that, or do you delete the "re" for a
reason? Just wondering, since it's a new year... >>
Actually it IS me doing it. I get the list in digest form, so when I want to
respond it is like hitting "create mail" (I simply hit reply) and it brings
up the digest number as the heading. I don't want to send mail that just says
Re: digest number whatever, so I simply highlight the entire heading and type
in the correct topic so as to be less confusing. I don't type in the Re:
because it seems a waste of time.
Ren
"The world's much smaller than you think. Made up of two kinds of
people--simple and complicated.....The simple ones are contented. The
complicated ones aren't."
"Unschooling support at pensacolaunschoolers.com
[email protected] writes:
<< Is this your browser doing that, or do you delete the "re" for a
reason? Just wondering, since it's a new year... >>
Actually it IS me doing it. I get the list in digest form, so when I want to
respond it is like hitting "create mail" (I simply hit reply) and it brings
up the digest number as the heading. I don't want to send mail that just says
Re: digest number whatever, so I simply highlight the entire heading and type
in the correct topic so as to be less confusing. I don't type in the Re:
because it seems a waste of time.
Ren
"The world's much smaller than you think. Made up of two kinds of
people--simple and complicated.....The simple ones are contented. The
complicated ones aren't."
"Unschooling support at pensacolaunschoolers.com
Colonel Newton
>>>>>>>>> Okay, we are trying to figure out why. Anyway, his teacher callsme up today, irate...why? Something my son did in class...Yes? He handed in
his homework with the words purplesomething or other and icehand written in
the midst of his answers. Why? Because he wanted to see if the teacher was
reading his paper.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Rachel Ann,
(By the way, my oldest daughter is a Rachel Anne :) -- great name...)
You know what this really comes down to, I think? That the teacher feels
insecure about his own teaching and perhaps really ISN'T reading the
paper... your son hit a raw nerve, I'll bet.
It is very disturbing to think that the relationship between your son & this
teacher is such that your son felt the need to test the teacher in this way.
That says to me that the teacher hasn't given feedback/ conferenced/
chatted/ written notes/ whatever-- and that your son WANTS that from the
teacher.
I don't know much about Yeshiva schools & their general teaching methods.
Is there some way your son could take the responsibility on himself to talk
with the teacher? To explain his point of view, why he did that, and what
his motivations were? It would be nice to think that such a conversation
could be held, if for no other reason than repairing the relationship.
Teresa G.
Mike Ebbers <[email protected]>
Ren,
I've wondered for several months now why the subject lines of your
posts do not contain the "Re:". This normally indicates a new topic,
but even your replies to old topics don't have the "Re:".
Is this your browser doing that, or do you delete the "re" for a
reason? Just wondering, since it's a new year...
Mike
P.S. Happy New Year to all reading this post
I've wondered for several months now why the subject lines of your
posts do not contain the "Re:". This normally indicates a new topic,
but even your replies to old topics don't have the "Re:".
Is this your browser doing that, or do you delete the "re" for a
reason? Just wondering, since it's a new year...
Mike
P.S. Happy New Year to all reading this post