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In a message dated 12/13/2002 10:13:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:


> Hi Susan. I took my first education foundations class two years ago
> and we discussed John Holt and unschooling for about 5 minutes. My
> instructor dismissed the whole philosophy saying that "child-led
> education doesn't work." I've only a semester remaining before I
> earn my ele. ed. degree, but in my heart know I can't go on. I hate
> every single minute of it. I just want to be at home with my own
> kids. Next semester I am scheduled to be in a classroom in a public
> school "educating" children. Donna.
>

I got my teaching credential years ago - I don't remember having any John
Holt. In fact there wasn't awhole lot of anything that I got about learning,
discipline (what can one do with 35 second graders), I didn't need anything
to pass on, I didn't learn good ways of sharing. I didn't learn educational
philosphies.

That's when I went into accounting never made it past the student teaching. I
have learned more about learning in four months of homeschooling then........



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susan marie

Not only did we get the sociology of education, we had an entire course
on classroom management -- a course that takes the word boring to new
places. One of the more interesting courses was the Philosophy of
Physical Education. You may laugh, but it was fascinating. We also
learned a lot about different philosophies of educating children, and
the professor was very open minded. We had to keep a journal, which I
still have. Here's two quotes from that class:

* "Entertain them hugely while educating them gently."

* " A true leader becomes progressively unnecessary."

Maybe I should send Dr. Kelly a thank-you. She was one of those rare
teachers who want you to think, think for yourself, and expand how you
think. Just think - I learned a lot of about unschooling while in a
teacher education program (but then, that was the seventies.. perhaps
times have changed. ;-)

peace,
Susan


On Saturday, December 14, 2002, at 02:20 AM, Petra1128b@... wrote:

> In a message dated 12/13/2002 10:13:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
>
> > Hi Susan.  I took my first education foundations class two years ago
> > and we discussed John Holt and unschooling for about 5 minutes.  My
> > instructor dismissed the whole philosophy saying that "child-led
> > education doesn't work."  I've only a semester remaining before I
> > earn my ele. ed. degree, but in my heart know I can't go on.  I hate
> > every single minute of it.  I just want to be at home with my own
> > kids.  Next semester I am scheduled to be in a classroom in a public
> > school "educating" children.  Donna.   
> >
>
> I got my teaching credential years ago - I don't remember having any
> John
> Holt. In fact there wasn't awhole lot of anything that I got about
> learning,
> discipline (what can one do with 35 second graders), I didn't need
> anything
> to pass on, I didn't learn good ways of sharing. I didn't learn
> educational
> philosphies.
>
> That's when I went into accounting never made it past the student
> teaching. I
> have learned more about learning in four months of homeschooling
> then........
>
>
>
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>
>
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peace,
Susan

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
- Margaret Mead

"All we are saying is give peace a chance."
- John Lennon


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