unschooling & work
Christina in GA
No, I am not suggesting that all parents must do one thing or another, especially that there is no choice but to have a child in school if they work. That is why I'm here and it's why I kept the promise I made to myself that my child would not be raised as I was. There are homeschooling parents that work split shifts in order to have their children at home, which is what we will be doing after this school year is over. Apparently in order to be an unschooler at least one parent must be a stay at home parent so the children's needs can be met. Apparently my situation with 2 working parents and the need to keep some semblance of a schedule doesn't mesh with an unschooler philosophy. I am asking if this list is going to be a good fit for me as I am a working parent and will have a different point of view.
Christina in GA
Happiness comes through doors you
didn't even know you left open.
Christina in GA
Happiness comes through doors you
didn't even know you left open.
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From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Need help on finding the balance - this got long...
In a message dated 12/11/02 8:35:56 PM, clr71@... writes:
<< <<The problems of a child having to get up for school are not within the
purview of this list's discussion, in my opinion.>>
-=-So, is this list for stay at home parents?-=-
Are you suggesting that all working parents must put their children in school
but that they can still be unschoolers? My comment was about a child being
in school, not about whether parents worked outside the home.
What this list is for is on the main page at yahoogroups:
Description Category: Home Schooling
Unschooling is the confidence to trust that young people will learn what they
need from living their lives in freedom and joy. An unschooling parent is a
facilitator and cheerleader who embraces life and learning with curiosity and
enthusiasm. An unschooled child is free to choose the what, when, where and
how of their learning -- from mud puddles to Shakespeare to Spongebob
Squarepants! If this sounds like it's for you or you'd like to find out more
about how video games and life in general are filled with learning, come join
us!
As discussed on this list and at the Unschooling.com website, unschooling is
*not* defined as the free learning kids do outside of parent-directed
learning, nor is it done on a part-time basis. Everyone with an interest in
unschooling is welcome to join this discussion, but we ask that you keep in
mind the purpose of this list, which is to discuss unschooling in ways
designed to help each other become unschoolers or become better at
unschooling. We advise reading for a week or two before posting to get a
"feel" for the list and its members, since many listmembers love a lively
debate and questioning beliefs to their foundations. If you have questions
about this list please feel free to contact list moderator Joyce Fetteroll (
fetteroll@...)
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:36:56 -0500 "Christina in GA" <clr71@...>
writes:
Rain's dad can't even support himself, so it's always been all me.
Generally I've worked as much from home as I could, since it seemed
easier to mesh unschooling with that lifestyle. When I've had to go to
meetings and things, if she didn't want to come I tried to find a friend
she could be with, or a paid one of her (homeschooled) teen friends to
babysit. If we had to leave early the next morning I told her that, but
usually she'd still stay up late and sleep in the car, or take a nap when
we got home, or whatever.
Now that I'm working for myself, I don't have the same schedule of
meetings and deadlines that I used to, but Rain's involved in a lot of
things so we still generally keep a tight schedule.
Working doesn't change the fundamentals of unschooling.
Dar
writes:
> There are homeschooling parents that work split shifts in order toThere are actually lots of working parents here. I'm a single mom and
> have their children at home, which is what we will be doing after
> this school year is over. Apparently in order to be an unschooler at
> least one parent must be a stay at home parent so the children's
> needs can be met. Apparently my situation with 2 working parents and
> the need to keep some semblance of a schedule doesn't mesh with an
> unschooler philosophy. I am asking if this list is going to be a
> good fit for me as I am a working parent and will have a different
> point of view.
Rain's dad can't even support himself, so it's always been all me.
Generally I've worked as much from home as I could, since it seemed
easier to mesh unschooling with that lifestyle. When I've had to go to
meetings and things, if she didn't want to come I tried to find a friend
she could be with, or a paid one of her (homeschooled) teen friends to
babysit. If we had to leave early the next morning I told her that, but
usually she'd still stay up late and sleep in the car, or take a nap when
we got home, or whatever.
Now that I'm working for myself, I don't have the same schedule of
meetings and deadlines that I used to, but Rain's involved in a lot of
things so we still generally keep a tight schedule.
Working doesn't change the fundamentals of unschooling.
Dar
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In a message dated 12/12/02 12:02:12 AM, clr71@... writes:
<< Apparently in order to be an unschooler at least one parent must be a
stay at home parent so the children's needs can be met. >>
To be an unschooler the child needs not to be in school.
There are other places and people than school to be with a child while a
parent is at work.
If the child is in school and bedtime and homework and all are important
factors, then that's what it is.
What advantage would there be for us to say "Oh. Okay. That's unschooling
too then!"
Sandra
<< Apparently in order to be an unschooler at least one parent must be a
stay at home parent so the children's needs can be met. >>
To be an unschooler the child needs not to be in school.
There are other places and people than school to be with a child while a
parent is at work.
If the child is in school and bedtime and homework and all are important
factors, then that's what it is.
What advantage would there be for us to say "Oh. Okay. That's unschooling
too then!"
Sandra
Denese Kolb
No, I am not suggesting that all parents must do one thing or another, especially that there is no choice but to have a child in school if they work. That is why I'm here and it's why I kept the promise I made to myself that my child would not be raised as I was. There are homeschooling parents that work split shifts in order to have their children at home, which is what we will be doing after this school year is over. Apparently in order to be an unschooler at least one parent must be a stay at home parent so the children's needs can be met. Apparently my situation with 2 working parents and the need to keep some semblance of a schedule doesn't mesh with an unschooler philosophy. I am asking if this list is going to be a good fit for me as I am a working parent and will have a different point of view.
Christina in GA
I almost hate to say anything but I am pretty confused here. Wasn't the issue that your child was in school, and therefore, not being unschooled?
Denese
Happiness comes through doors you
didn't even know you left open.
Christina in GA
I almost hate to say anything but I am pretty confused here. Wasn't the issue that your child was in school, and therefore, not being unschooled?
Denese
Happiness comes through doors you
didn't even know you left open.
----- Original Message -----
From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Need help on finding the balance - this got long...
In a message dated 12/11/02 8:35:56 PM, clr71@... writes:
<< <<The problems of a child having to get up for school are not within the
purview of this list's discussion, in my opinion.>>
-=-So, is this list for stay at home parents?-=-
Are you suggesting that all working parents must put their children in school
but that they can still be unschoolers? My comment was about a child being
in school, not about whether parents worked outside the home.
What this list is for is on the main page at yahoogroups:
Description Category: Home Schooling
Unschooling is the confidence to trust that young people will learn what they
need from living their lives in freedom and joy. An unschooling parent is a
facilitator and cheerleader who embraces life and learning with curiosity and
enthusiasm. An unschooled child is free to choose the what, when, where and
how of their learning -- from mud puddles to Shakespeare to Spongebob
Squarepants! If this sounds like it's for you or you'd like to find out more
about how video games and life in general are filled with learning, come join
us!
As discussed on this list and at the Unschooling.com website, unschooling is
*not* defined as the free learning kids do outside of parent-directed
learning, nor is it done on a part-time basis. Everyone with an interest in
unschooling is welcome to join this discussion, but we ask that you keep in
mind the purpose of this list, which is to discuss unschooling in ways
designed to help each other become unschoolers or become better at
unschooling. We advise reading for a week or two before posting to get a
"feel" for the list and its members, since many listmembers love a lively
debate and questioning beliefs to their foundations. If you have questions
about this list please feel free to contact list moderator Joyce Fetteroll (
fetteroll@...)
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In a message dated 12/12/02 2:02:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,
clr71@... writes:
people who have excercised those options.
before.
Apparently my situation with 2 working parents and the need to keep some
A schedule that involves the child doing things he doesn't want to simply
because Mom thinks it best is so far from unschooling. A schedule like I work
three days a week, Johnny has baseball twice a week on set days, we are in a
field trip group on Fridays, is simply a set routine. Different than school
type scheduling.
You MAY HAVE a different point of view. That's okay! Some parents are more
comfortable with "Relaxed homeschooling or Eclectic Homeschooling"
Some of my best friends are relaxed homeschoolers. ;o)
Elissa
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clr71@... writes:
> No, I am not suggesting that all parents must do one thing or another,Not true. It's not ALL or NOTHING. There are other options. I know lots of
> especially that there is no choice but to have a child in school if they
> work.
people who have excercised those options.
> . Apparently in order to be an unschooler at least one parent must be a stayIt helps, but why would you not put him first? Work comes AROUND kids, not
> at home parent so the children's needs can be met.
before.
Apparently my situation with 2 working parents and the need to keep some
> semblance of a schedule doesn't mesh with an unschooler philosophy. I amThere are lots of working parents here. I'm one.
> asking if this list is going to be a good fit for me as I am a working
> parent and will have a different point of view.
A schedule that involves the child doing things he doesn't want to simply
because Mom thinks it best is so far from unschooling. A schedule like I work
three days a week, Johnny has baseball twice a week on set days, we are in a
field trip group on Fridays, is simply a set routine. Different than school
type scheduling.
You MAY HAVE a different point of view. That's okay! Some parents are more
comfortable with "Relaxed homeschooling or Eclectic Homeschooling"
Some of my best friends are relaxed homeschoolers. ;o)
Elissa
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susan marie
I work too, but just part-time. I'm getting back into it as time allows.
I'm in the fortunate position of not needing to work for financial
reasons, but do need to for my self. I was a teacher, now a writer,
slowly but surely getting published and paid.
We find ways to balance work, learning, kids, family, dad's work, and so
on. Balance is the key. Unschooling is a good fit for us in many ways.
susan
I'm in the fortunate position of not needing to work for financial
reasons, but do need to for my self. I was a teacher, now a writer,
slowly but surely getting published and paid.
We find ways to balance work, learning, kids, family, dad's work, and so
on. Balance is the key. Unschooling is a good fit for us in many ways.
susan
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 02:51 AM, freeform@... wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:36:56 -0500 "Christina in GA" <clr71@...>
> writes:
> > There are homeschooling parents that work split shifts in order to
> > have their children at home, which is what we will be doing after
> > this school year is over. Apparently in order to be an unschooler at
> > least one parent must be a stay at home parent so the children's
> > needs can be met. Apparently my situation with 2 working parents and
> > the need to keep some semblance of a schedule doesn't mesh with an
> > unschooler philosophy. I am asking if this list is going to be a
> > good fit for me as I am a working parent and will have a different
> > point of view.
>
> There are actually lots of working parents here. I'm a single mom and
> Rain's dad can't even support himself, so it's always been all me.
> Generally I've worked as much from home as I could, since it seemed
> easier to mesh unschooling with that lifestyle. When I've had to go to
> meetings and things, if she didn't want to come I tried to find a friend
> she could be with, or a paid one of her (homeschooled) teen friends to
> babysit. If we had to leave early the next morning I told her that, but
> usually she'd still stay up late and sleep in the car, or take a nap
> when
> we got home, or whatever.
>
> Now that I'm working for myself, I don't have the same schedule of
> meetings and deadlines that I used to, but Rain's involved in a lot of
> things so we still generally keep a tight schedule.
>
> Working doesn't change the fundamentals of unschooling.
>
> Dar
>
>
>
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peace,
Susan
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
- Margaret Mead
"All we are saying is give peace a chance."
- John Lennon
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