Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] cooking
[email protected]
In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:20:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
remember deep-frying potatoes (we had cut them up ourselves and put them in
the oil) and producing a raging fire on the kitchen stove. I had my 5 year
old brother run over to a neighbor for help. She put it out. My parents
weren't home!
By the time I was seven, Johnny and I were regulars in the kitchen and made
breakfast in bed a lot for our 'rents. The hardest thing I had to learn was
patience. I liked to cook hot and fast (see above! <G>), so our parents ate
many burnt eggs and toast and VERY crisp bacon & sausage. I've since learned
what the lower numbers on the dials are for!
My husband had never cooked before we met (other than cereal and BBQ chicken
on the grill). He's burned himself a lot. I have too---still do.
Both my boys are comfortable in the kitchen. They've both burned themselves.
Nothing serious. Certainly nothing needing hospitalization! But they are more
careful than I was---and we discuss all the dial settings.
I think there's *almost* a guarantee that if you're working in a kitchen, you
will eventually burn yourself and cut yourself. But if he's shown the right
way to hold knives (sharp knives are safer than dull) and what he's cutting
(keep fingerTIPS away from blades) and how to manuever around a hot stove,
the chances of serious injury will be diminished.
A chair works better for us than a stool. We turn it backwards (or sideways,
depending on the height of the chair) so that he's standing facing the back
of the chair. That way he can BACK off the chair while holding onto the
chair-back and he can't fall FORWARD into the fire. It also gives him
something to lean into other than the stove itself. (If he's leaning into the
chair, the chair can't slip back---unlike leaning into a solid surface.)
Kelly
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[email protected] writes:
> But my biggest problem is that I've knownI was cooking by myself at six (we had always helped in the kitchen). I
> > several kids older than him that were burned badly, even with mom
> > supervising. That scares me to death, especially since I don't even
> > have a way to get him to the hospital if he should burn himself. I
> > was really hoping to wait at least a couple more years on the "real"
> > cooking, but if I'm just being paranoid I don't want to hold him
> > back. Thoughts?
>
remember deep-frying potatoes (we had cut them up ourselves and put them in
the oil) and producing a raging fire on the kitchen stove. I had my 5 year
old brother run over to a neighbor for help. She put it out. My parents
weren't home!
By the time I was seven, Johnny and I were regulars in the kitchen and made
breakfast in bed a lot for our 'rents. The hardest thing I had to learn was
patience. I liked to cook hot and fast (see above! <G>), so our parents ate
many burnt eggs and toast and VERY crisp bacon & sausage. I've since learned
what the lower numbers on the dials are for!
My husband had never cooked before we met (other than cereal and BBQ chicken
on the grill). He's burned himself a lot. I have too---still do.
Both my boys are comfortable in the kitchen. They've both burned themselves.
Nothing serious. Certainly nothing needing hospitalization! But they are more
careful than I was---and we discuss all the dial settings.
I think there's *almost* a guarantee that if you're working in a kitchen, you
will eventually burn yourself and cut yourself. But if he's shown the right
way to hold knives (sharp knives are safer than dull) and what he's cutting
(keep fingerTIPS away from blades) and how to manuever around a hot stove,
the chances of serious injury will be diminished.
A chair works better for us than a stool. We turn it backwards (or sideways,
depending on the height of the chair) so that he's standing facing the back
of the chair. That way he can BACK off the chair while holding onto the
chair-back and he can't fall FORWARD into the fire. It also gives him
something to lean into other than the stove itself. (If he's leaning into the
chair, the chair can't slip back---unlike leaning into a solid surface.)
Kelly
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Myranda
OK, so I guess I'm just being paranoid! LOL I know Brett is actually more careful than me around things that could hurt, he's the one who asked for us to put pillows under the tree before he climbed up it! I'm gonna re-check my first-aid kit, and we're gonna cook!
Myranda
From: kbcdlovejo@...
I was cooking by myself at six (we had always helped in the kitchen). I
remember deep-frying potatoes (we had cut them up ourselves and put them in
the oil) and producing a raging fire on the kitchen stove. I had my 5 year
old brother run over to a neighbor for help. She put it out. My parents
weren't home!
By the time I was seven, Johnny and I were regulars in the kitchen and made
breakfast in bed a lot for our 'rents. The hardest thing I had to learn was
patience. I liked to cook hot and fast (see above! <G>), so our parents ate
many burnt eggs and toast and VERY crisp bacon & sausage. I've since learned
what the lower numbers on the dials are for!
My husband had never cooked before we met (other than cereal and BBQ chicken
on the grill). He's burned himself a lot. I have too---still do.
Both my boys are comfortable in the kitchen. They've both burned themselves.
Nothing serious. Certainly nothing needing hospitalization! But they are more
careful than I was---and we discuss all the dial settings.
I think there's *almost* a guarantee that if you're working in a kitchen, you
will eventually burn yourself and cut yourself. But if he's shown the right
way to hold knives (sharp knives are safer than dull) and what he's cutting
(keep fingerTIPS away from blades) and how to manuever around a hot stove,
the chances of serious injury will be diminished.
A chair works better for us than a stool. We turn it backwards (or sideways,
depending on the height of the chair) so that he's standing facing the back
of the chair. That way he can BACK off the chair while holding onto the
chair-back and he can't fall FORWARD into the fire. It also gives him
something to lean into other than the stove itself. (If he's leaning into the
chair, the chair can't slip back---unlike leaning into a solid surface.)
Kelly
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Myranda
From: kbcdlovejo@...
I was cooking by myself at six (we had always helped in the kitchen). I
remember deep-frying potatoes (we had cut them up ourselves and put them in
the oil) and producing a raging fire on the kitchen stove. I had my 5 year
old brother run over to a neighbor for help. She put it out. My parents
weren't home!
By the time I was seven, Johnny and I were regulars in the kitchen and made
breakfast in bed a lot for our 'rents. The hardest thing I had to learn was
patience. I liked to cook hot and fast (see above! <G>), so our parents ate
many burnt eggs and toast and VERY crisp bacon & sausage. I've since learned
what the lower numbers on the dials are for!
My husband had never cooked before we met (other than cereal and BBQ chicken
on the grill). He's burned himself a lot. I have too---still do.
Both my boys are comfortable in the kitchen. They've both burned themselves.
Nothing serious. Certainly nothing needing hospitalization! But they are more
careful than I was---and we discuss all the dial settings.
I think there's *almost* a guarantee that if you're working in a kitchen, you
will eventually burn yourself and cut yourself. But if he's shown the right
way to hold knives (sharp knives are safer than dull) and what he's cutting
(keep fingerTIPS away from blades) and how to manuever around a hot stove,
the chances of serious injury will be diminished.
A chair works better for us than a stool. We turn it backwards (or sideways,
depending on the height of the chair) so that he's standing facing the back
of the chair. That way he can BACK off the chair while holding onto the
chair-back and he can't fall FORWARD into the fire. It also gives him
something to lean into other than the stove itself. (If he's leaning into the
chair, the chair can't slip back---unlike leaning into a solid surface.)
Kelly
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Tangie
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., kbcdlovejo@a... wrote:
examples Myranda gave of the children who were burned were kind of
surprising to me. I can't imagine letting a child pick up a pan of
hot oil to begin with. Heck, I don't even move hot pans of oil if I
can help it!
Tangie
> In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:20:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,kitchen, you
> I think there's *almost* a guarantee that if you're working in a
> will eventually burn yourself and cut yourself. But if he's shownthe right
> way to hold knives (sharp knives are safer than dull) and what he'scutting
> (keep fingerTIPS away from blades) and how to manuever around a hotstove,
> the chances of serious injury will be diminished.Definitely. And some common sense helps, too. A couple of the
>
examples Myranda gave of the children who were burned were kind of
surprising to me. I can't imagine letting a child pick up a pan of
hot oil to begin with. Heck, I don't even move hot pans of oil if I
can help it!
Tangie
Myranda
In the case of the oil, the wrong burner was turned on. The child decided to move the oil off the burner and just put what she wanted to cook on the burner, instead of turning it off and turning the right one on. The mom was in the kitchen with her at the time, said she just moved too fast. :-(
Myranda
From: Tangie
Definitely. And some common sense helps, too. A couple of the
examples Myranda gave of the children who were burned were kind of
surprising to me. I can't imagine letting a child pick up a pan of
hot oil to begin with. Heck, I don't even move hot pans of oil if I
can help it!
Tangie
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Myranda
From: Tangie
Definitely. And some common sense helps, too. A couple of the
examples Myranda gave of the children who were burned were kind of
surprising to me. I can't imagine letting a child pick up a pan of
hot oil to begin with. Heck, I don't even move hot pans of oil if I
can help it!
Tangie
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Peggy
Tangie wrote:
stove -- got one of those smooth ceramic cook stove ones. I notice NOW they
make them with heat indicators around the burner itself but mine has just four
buttons at the front of the stove to watch to see if it is on or still hot. It
is pretty easy to set something on top of the heat indicators and forget about
them. Even I screw up with it sometimes and have tried to wipe down a hot
burner with a cloth etc. And, uh, the time I sat the garbage can lid on a hot
burner and it melted and I had to scrape it off.
Peggy
>I know! Big pots of hot fat are one of the worst dangers. I worry about my
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., kbcdlovejo@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:20:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > I think there's *almost* a guarantee that if you're working in a
> kitchen, you
> > will eventually burn yourself and cut yourself. But if he's shown
> the right
> > way to hold knives (sharp knives are safer than dull) and what he's
> cutting
> > (keep fingerTIPS away from blades) and how to manuever around a hot
> stove,
> > the chances of serious injury will be diminished.
> >
>
> Definitely. And some common sense helps, too. A couple of the
> examples Myranda gave of the children who were burned were kind of
> surprising to me. I can't imagine letting a child pick up a pan of
> hot oil to begin with. Heck, I don't even move hot pans of oil if I
> can help it!
>
> Tangie
stove -- got one of those smooth ceramic cook stove ones. I notice NOW they
make them with heat indicators around the burner itself but mine has just four
buttons at the front of the stove to watch to see if it is on or still hot. It
is pretty easy to set something on top of the heat indicators and forget about
them. Even I screw up with it sometimes and have tried to wipe down a hot
burner with a cloth etc. And, uh, the time I sat the garbage can lid on a hot
burner and it melted and I had to scrape it off.
Peggy
Deborah Lewis
We have an older stove, with the knobs behind the burners. The problem
is that a little person has to stretch and lean well over the burner to
turn it off. Dylan does cook, at first with my help and now he makes
some things by himself. Turning the burner on isn't a problem but
getting it turned off, while the burner is hot, is.
He asks someone to turn it off for him, or he climbs on the counter and
approaches the knob from the side, where he won't have to reach and lean,
with his shirt, over the burner.
I have asked that he not cook on the stove if I'm asleep but he can use
the toaster oven or the microwave.
I still move heavy pans for him and dump hot liquids.
I would love to get a new stove with knobs in the front.
Deb L
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:07:34 -0700 Peggy <peggy@...>
writes:
is that a little person has to stretch and lean well over the burner to
turn it off. Dylan does cook, at first with my help and now he makes
some things by himself. Turning the burner on isn't a problem but
getting it turned off, while the burner is hot, is.
He asks someone to turn it off for him, or he climbs on the counter and
approaches the knob from the side, where he won't have to reach and lean,
with his shirt, over the burner.
I have asked that he not cook on the stove if I'm asleep but he can use
the toaster oven or the microwave.
I still move heavy pans for him and dump hot liquids.
I would love to get a new stove with knobs in the front.
Deb L
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:07:34 -0700 Peggy <peggy@...>
writes:
> I know! Big pots of hot fat are one of the worst dangers. I worry
> about my
> stove -- got one of those smooth ceramic cook stove ones. I notice
> NOW they
> make them with heat indicators around the burner itself but mine has
> just four
> buttons at the front of the stove to watch to see if it is on or
> still hot. It
> is pretty easy to set something on top of the heat indicators and
> forget about
> them. Even I screw up with it sometimes and have tried to wipe down
> a hot
> burner with a cloth etc. And, uh, the time I sat the garbage can lid
> on a hot
> burner and it melted and I had to scrape it off.
>
> Peggy
Alan & Brenda Leonard
10/22/02 17:46:
months. Except I don't store clothes in it, it's my kitchen. Floor space
is about 4 feet square. I know lots of military wives who only microwave
frozen food; maybe that's what the army was thinking when they built these
places. (Or maybe they forgot the kitchen and figured they'd use that cool
closet they put in off the living/dining area...)
But......drum roll.....I'M MOVING!!!!!! To *larger* quarters---3 whole
bedrooms! Hooray!
brenda
who is still doing the happy dance!
p.s. small kitchens don't keep the mess down. they just always look messy.
> I can't put anything in front of the stove, it's on an island and there'sIf it's any consolation, Myranda, I've had a walk-in closet for the last 15
> barely room to walk around it as it is. Grrrr I hate itty bitty kitchens!!!
> Even if they do keep the mess down.
months. Except I don't store clothes in it, it's my kitchen. Floor space
is about 4 feet square. I know lots of military wives who only microwave
frozen food; maybe that's what the army was thinking when they built these
places. (Or maybe they forgot the kitchen and figured they'd use that cool
closet they put in off the living/dining area...)
But......drum roll.....I'M MOVING!!!!!! To *larger* quarters---3 whole
bedrooms! Hooray!
brenda
who is still doing the happy dance!
p.s. small kitchens don't keep the mess down. they just always look messy.
Myranda
Oh noooooooo!!!!!! But yippee about moving! Oh, and that's why it stays less messy - cause it looks messy quicker, I clean it more often! <bwg>
Myranda
From: Alan & Brenda Leonard
If it's any consolation, Myranda, I've had a walk-in closet for the last 15
months. Except I don't store clothes in it, it's my kitchen. Floor space
is about 4 feet square. I know lots of military wives who only microwave
frozen food; maybe that's what the army was thinking when they built these
places. (Or maybe they forgot the kitchen and figured they'd use that cool
closet they put in off the living/dining area...)
But......drum roll.....I'M MOVING!!!!!! To *larger* quarters---3 whole
bedrooms! Hooray!
brenda
who is still doing the happy dance!
p.s. small kitchens don't keep the mess down. they just always look messy.
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Myranda
From: Alan & Brenda Leonard
If it's any consolation, Myranda, I've had a walk-in closet for the last 15
months. Except I don't store clothes in it, it's my kitchen. Floor space
is about 4 feet square. I know lots of military wives who only microwave
frozen food; maybe that's what the army was thinking when they built these
places. (Or maybe they forgot the kitchen and figured they'd use that cool
closet they put in off the living/dining area...)
But......drum roll.....I'M MOVING!!!!!! To *larger* quarters---3 whole
bedrooms! Hooray!
brenda
who is still doing the happy dance!
p.s. small kitchens don't keep the mess down. they just always look messy.
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