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<< I found out that I love
broccoli! And squash and quite a few others. Wish I had figured it
out when I was younger. >>

Some of that is probably just that things taste different as we get older.
When we're talking about liking or not liking food here, I try never to say
"Marty doesn't like spaghetti." I'll say "Marty doesn't like spaghetti as
much as he likes just the sauce and garlic bread," or if a kid says "I don't
like orange juice, I might say "You might when you're older.

We've always said "I didn't like that either when I was little, but when I
was a teenager I did," or "I used to like Pixie Sticks (or whatever) when I
was little too, but when I got older it seemed just too sweet and yucky."

Same old recommendation of simple honest communication which doesn't shut out
any part of future possibilities and tries not to make the kids feel wrong or
bad about current preferences.

Sandra

Stephanie Elms

> << I found out that I love
> broccoli! And squash and quite a few others. Wish I had figured it
> out when I was younger. >>
>
> Some of that is probably just that things taste different as
> we get older.


Oh I agree here...I just meant that maybe if I had not been forced to eat
veggies that I hated as a young child I might have been open to trying them
when I was in high school or college instead of waiting until I had kids
at 30. This is my goal for Jason....that he remains open to trying new foods
and that he knows that he can choose not to eat them if he does not like them.


> We've always said "I didn't like that either when I was
> little, but when I
> was a teenager I did," or "I used to like Pixie Sticks (or
> whatever) when I
> was little too, but when I got older it seemed just too sweet
> and yucky."

Yup! Jason and I talk about this a lot....he loves to hear about me when I was
a kid, especially when he hears that I felt the same way. Jason actually is
pretty open to trying things, probably because he has always been able to say
no. He just honestly does not like that much! I was an extremely picky kid
(still am to a point) and had to have lots of conversations with Jeff to get
him to understand that you can not force a kid to eat. Although I think
that sometimes Jason even has me beat (he has decided that the whole wheat
bread that we have been eating for years now "smells like mint" and does
not want his pb&j anymore (and no, he does not like white bread either!).
This was the staple of his diet, so I am on the search for a new brand that
he will eat...geesh! I gotta love this kid...)

Funny, this is one area where I have actually told my mom that she did it wrong
(in a very nice way though!). We have had lots of talks about it and I realize
now that she was after the short term goal of getting nutritious food into me
(she had 2 great-aunts who had hump backs (I am assuming scoliosis) and her mom
told her it was from poor nutrition). My perspective is that I doubt the few
spoonfuls of veggies I swallowed really benefited me that much and it really
turned me off to trying new foods.

The only thing that I did do was to restrict sweets. Which I now do not. :o)
And we are definitely in the binging phase. I just keep telling myself that
this is to be expected and that they will eventually want to eat some healthy
food again. Interesting thing is that Jason has told me the last two nights
that his tummy did not feel good...we backtracked over what he had eaten the
last couple of days (pretty much living on goldfish, soda, fruit chews, smarties,
chips and gum). Today he asked for a grilled cheese and some blueberries (in addition
to all the junk) so we are making progress LOL! It's only been a couple of days
of binging, so I still have hope.... :o)

Stephanie E.

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In a message dated 10/21/02 10:06:18 PM, stephanie.elms@...
writes:

<< (pretty much living on goldfish, soda, fruit chews, smarties,
chips and gum) >>

Two of those things... well not quite.
Wait.

By my "sick bed" (the couch in the den) I have some serve-yourself foods.
Goldfish crackers
fruit bars (like big fig newtons)
fig newtons
granola bars
cashews

I'm pining for some jerkey Kelly Lovejoy brought me in the hospital but which
I handed back because of nausea. It might arrive in my box of shipped stuff.
I'm hoping.

Letting my kids get used to sleeping until noon is okay, but when it's 8:30
in the morning and the food is where I can't get, I wish I had more choices.
Maybe I need a cooler by the couch. <g>

yesterday morning Holly brought me a piece of toast with Muenster cheese
melted on it and it was wonderful.

I have to take food with the meds. I'm getting tired of dry carbohydrate
food. And this morning all I have is half a bottle of water. Other days
I've had cranberry juice or cherry juice.

So all of you who can walk to the fridge or drive to the store, think of me
when you're drinking something good today.

And those who are afraid for your kids to cook, I share that fear of spilling
hot liquid. I wouldn't encourage it. But I'm glad my kids can use a
microwave and a toaster so I will get SOME food today. Later, after noon.

Sandra the temporarily hungry. But I CAN reach goldfish and water.

Kelli Traaseth

Good job Stephanie!

I'm at the same step, my kids are getting over the binging now, but now we are the candy house for the rest of the neighborhood!
So this ought to be interesting.
Other kids walk in our door and first words out of their mouth, can I have a treat?
My 5dd this a.m. chose bagel with strawberry cream cheese and ghetost(norwegian goat cheese). Hmmmm, I'm first thinking, OK? And she loved it, I have to watch what I say and watch my reactions!
Take Care,
Kelli
Stephanie Elms <stephanie.elms@...> wrote:
> << I found out that I love
> broccoli! And squash and quite a few others. Wish I had figured it
> out when I was younger. >>
>
> Some of that is probably just that things taste different as
> we get older.


Oh I agree here...I just meant that maybe if I had not been forced to eat
veggies that I hated as a young child I might have been open to trying them
when I was in high school or college instead of waiting until I had kids
at 30. This is my goal for Jason....that he remains open to trying new foods
and that he knows that he can choose not to eat them if he does not like them.


> We've always said "I didn't like that either when I was
> little, but when I
> was a teenager I did," or "I used to like Pixie Sticks (or
> whatever) when I
> was little too, but when I got older it seemed just too sweet
> and yucky."

Yup! Jason and I talk about this a lot....he loves to hear about me when I was
a kid, especially when he hears that I felt the same way. Jason actually is
pretty open to trying things, probably because he has always been able to say
no. He just honestly does not like that much! I was an extremely picky kid
(still am to a point) and had to have lots of conversations with Jeff to get
him to understand that you can not force a kid to eat. Although I think
that sometimes Jason even has me beat (he has decided that the whole wheat
bread that we have been eating for years now "smells like mint" and does
not want his pb&j anymore (and no, he does not like white bread either!).
This was the staple of his diet, so I am on the search for a new brand that
he will eat...geesh! I gotta love this kid...)

Funny, this is one area where I have actually told my mom that she did it wrong
(in a very nice way though!). We have had lots of talks about it and I realize
now that she was after the short term goal of getting nutritious food into me
(she had 2 great-aunts who had hump backs (I am assuming scoliosis) and her mom
told her it was from poor nutrition). My perspective is that I doubt the few
spoonfuls of veggies I swallowed really benefited me that much and it really
turned me off to trying new foods.

The only thing that I did do was to restrict sweets. Which I now do not. :o)
And we are definitely in the binging phase. I just keep telling myself that
this is to be expected and that they will eventually want to eat some healthy
food again. Interesting thing is that Jason has told me the last two nights
that his tummy did not feel good...we backtracked over what he had eaten the
last couple of days (pretty much living on goldfish, soda, fruit chews, smarties,
chips and gum). Today he asked for a grilled cheese and some blueberries (in addition
to all the junk) so we are making progress LOL! It's only been a couple of days
of binging, so I still have hope.... :o)

Stephanie E.




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>From: SandraDodd@...
So all of you who can walk to the fridge or drive to the store, think of me
when you're drinking something good today. (snip)>>


Can I think of you even when I'm drinking my blue Gatorade??? <BEG>

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In a message dated 10/22/02 12:45:18 PM, mummyone24@... writes:

<< Can I think of you even when I'm drinking my blue Gatorade??? <BEG> >>

I'd be honored.

Stephanie Elms

> Good job Stephanie!
>
> I'm at the same step, my kids are getting over the binging
> now, but now we are the candy house for the rest of the
> neighborhood!

So I have to ask, how long did it take LOL! Today they had one apple
and doritos all day (at least it was the baked kind LOL!).

I know this is going to work, but geesh it is hard to watch! The good
thing is that after watching them binge on Doritos, *I* have lost all
desire to ever eat Doritos again.

Stephanie E.

Mary Bianco

>From: "Stephanie Elms" <stephanie.elms@...>

<<I know this is going to work, but geesh it is hard to watch! The good
thing is that after watching them binge on Doritos, *I* have lost all
desire to ever eat Doritos again.>>



LOL!!!! Hang in there Stephanie. I can only speak for us here. We have never
had restrictions on food, even for my first. Hey, at least I did something
right with her!!! And my kids, well actually my husband and I too, have days
when we feel like "stuff" and not "real" food. Can't say how long it will
take once the restrictions are lifted, but for us, it's an ongoing thing.
What keeps me grounded is looking at a month and seeing that all of us do
eat pretty well. Not meaning quantity but quality, at least for us! <BG>

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Kelli Traaseth

It really didn't take long, My son still will asks if he can have stuff and I say yes and then most of the time he says, "oh, I guess I don't really want any." So for him its a control thing, I put it in his court and he'll decide he doesn't want it. He has binged (with his dad) on potato chips while watching sports or things, but it is never more than maybe a half bag or maybe a couple of cups. Then next time he eats less.

Isn't it great!
Loving my new lifestyle,
Kelli
Stephanie Elms <stephanie.elms@...> wrote:> Good job Stephanie!
>
> I'm at the same step, my kids are getting over the binging
> now, but now we are the candy house for the rest of the
> neighborhood!

So I have to ask, how long did it take LOL! Today they had one apple
and doritos all day (at least it was the baked kind LOL!).

I know this is going to work, but geesh it is hard to watch! The good
thing is that after watching them binge on Doritos, *I* have lost all
desire to ever eat Doritos again.

Stephanie E.


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